[000:00:00;00] friends, we are live on the channel and also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please like our video so that it can be trended on youtube, and take participation in our vote, because today we are conducting a rather principled vote, although the answer to it, as if this question is obvious, and still, let's record whether you support ukraine's accession to nato, yes, no, the results of the vote... we will be announced at the end of this program. to our broadcast people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine, valentyn nalivatchenko, joins. mr. valentin, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air. good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. mr. valentin, today is quite a busy day for the north atlantic alliance in kyiv. two defense ministers, great britain, france, nato secretary general,

jens stolten. stoltenberg has already announced that ukraine is closer to nato than ever before, and the nato secretary general announced that the alliance is increasing production of ammunition both for ourselves and for ukraine, let's hear a fragment of stolteng's speech. today i can confirm that nato has framework contracts for major munitions worth 2.4 billion euros, including a guarantee... order for 1 billion euros. it will include 155 mm artillery shells, anti-tank guided missiles and ammunition for main battle tanks. this will help allies replenish their supplies while continuing to support ukraine. mr. valentin, what is radically changing in this rhetoric and in

the intentions of the north atlantic alliance with in particular, after the visit of three high-ranking officials who solve many issues within the north atlantic alliance. well, you and i understand that it is no coincidence that the secretary general of nato, jen stontelberg, and the defense ministers of two key nato countries, great britain and france, were in kyiv on the same day and at the same time. i will tell you that working with these delegations, of france and britain, i understand that now... the defense ministers of these countries, on the instructions of the prime ministers and the president of france, have also brought their chiefs of staff, and it is also very important for our armed forces that the chiefs of staff, i.e. specialist military personnel, our specialist partners worked today , including with the head of our general staff, with the commander-in-chief general zaluzhny, at the political level, the ministers of defense met with the president of ukraine

zelskyi. all this together means the first thing: the 23rd year is ending, and for the 24th year, we and our partners, the armed forces of ukraine and the armed forces of nato member countries, have specific plans for cooperation, points of this cooperation, the first is the training of our military personnel in nato member countries, and these are thousands and thousands of tens of thousands of our defenders who will undergo training next year as well. training and receiving uniforms and weapons after such training. the second item is ammunition, said mr. serhiy, i confirm that such a budget exists in the european union, and orders from nato and nato member countries for the armed forces of ukraine. the nato caliber, the caliber is different, and for howitzers, and for mortars, and for armored vehicles that were supplied, and continue

to be supplied to the country. we are nato members. third, the third item is the launch of the annual program of adaptation of ukraine, the ministry of defense, primarily of ukraine to na standards. this program is being launched right now and over the next year for our department of defense, there will be a lot of very specific work for the secretary of defense to align with nato warfighting and other standards, departmental standards. ukrainian armed forces and all combat units. here are three key directions from ukraine nato today in kyiv. yesterday, mr. valentin, it became known about the appointment of three new ones deputy defense minister of ukraine, new minister rustem umerov. who was appointed, yuriy dzhigera, is the former deputy minister of finance of ukraine natalia kalmykova, the head of the ukrainian veterans fund, ekaterina

chornogorenko, in our country. deputy minister of defense of ukraine for digital development, digital transformations and digitalization, in your opinion, how is the current team and how different will it be. from the previous one, because the previous deputy ministers of defense of ukraine were mostly public figures and quite well-known people in ukraine, about these people, what can be said, how do you evaluate this personnel potential of rustem umerov, i think that during the war we should all wish that those people who are appointed today by the cabinet of ministers, i.e. the government, on the positions of the first three deputy ministers of defense were effective and efficient, for whom, and for the armed forces of ukraine, the ministry of defense is the key central body of the executive power in ukraine to ensure the ukrainian army, in order for

the ukrainian victory to be faster, as to provide the key areas of work of the ministry of defense - weapons, the second - the rear, rear support, without the rear, no army fights, and the rear must be dealt with, and the third, i have already called it nato, nato, the ministry of defense will now have a lot of work, in addition to war , and in addition, in order for those trainings, those weapons, and aid, including financial, to be used by us at the same time so that the ukrainian armed forces are fully compatible with the armed forces of nato member countries, so that we are sufficiently were able to quickly become a country, a member of nato and to become under... the security and protection umbrella of this entire international alliance, this international military-political organization called nato. i will tell you sergey that these are the first, as i understand it, three deputies, and

the most key appointments should take place, in my opinion, the day before yesterday, because it is precisely the deputy ministers of the minister of defense for armaments, and supply, and repair, and use, and licensing and so on. this is a key direction. the second, deputy minister, key, i have already spoken about it, rear, rear support, medicine, tactical, and not only tactical, but also for our defenders who were wounded, and during hostilities closer to the front line, it is really necessary not just to improve the situation, but to create efficient and modern hospitals, hospitals for our defenders, that is why these two deputies, and are key, i really sincerely urge the government not to delay and to appoint specialist, combat officers and generals to such positions, because in such positions, for example, the deputy minister, if you ask me for armaments, for weapons, should have not only

military, but and military-technical education, moreover, also be fluent in english and know the weapons of nato member countries, simply put, if abrams are delivered now, then for the new deputy minister of defense, who will be appointed, this armored vehicle should not just be in pictures, but familiar as is repaired, how it is used and how it is more effective, to transfer and use in the armed forces of ukraine during the counteroffensive and in the east and in the south, so the next assignments, i think, will be even more important, and the last one about the ministry of defense, the digital direction is really very is important, but i want to explain to our tv viewers that it is not only and not so much electronic registers or document flow, although this is also important in the ministry itself, no, it is much more important now that the ministry of defense of ukraine sets out to create

an effective, modern digital sky, a digital dryer and in principle, the digital picture of the protection of the ukrainian land , the digital picture of the battle for the armed forces of ukraine, and what is important is that this digital sky, digital front, digital, digital support of the armed forces of ukraine are according to standards nato there are already such developments in the nato member countries, and it is time for the ministry of defense of ukraine to really seriously deal with this , because, for example, air defense, against the shahed, against terrorist russian missiles, without the digital sky we will no longer be able to move, we will not be able to use more modern radars, modern systems of early warning and detection of terrorist russian missiles, and what's more, this digital sky is necessary, right for the f-16s, which we are convinced

will be on combat duty in the coming months for the ukrainian the sky mr. valentin, you have already mentioned the american abrams tanks, this week the first batch has already arrived, at first washington promised 31 units of these and then there was information that there could be 30 more, but, the former special representative and envoy to the commander of the armed forces forces of ukraine valery. dear dan rice, this is the president of the american university in kyiv, he says in an interview with newsweek that the americans are about to give us attacks with a cluster warhead, and he said that this week it could happen, so far there are no official reports, in your opinion, what is stopping the americans from handing over these very necessary weapons in the current conditions for ukraine. we all expected, and i also

worked for the atakams, a ballistic army missile , to be transferred to the armed forces of ukraine by our american partners, even before or during the visit of the president of ukraine to washington, united states of america. this did not happen, because there is no final decision of the us president. what's next? further, now, i think, such a pause will be caused, including internal political issues in the united states of america itself to congress. the usa, as we know it, is currently considering a very difficult issue, regarding the restoration of the budget and the new budget after october 1, there are not easy battles going on, but in this new budget, in this new budget resolution, us president biden has laid down 24 billion dollars to support the ukrainian of the armed forces , humanitarian aid and budget aid , that is, aid to ukraine, and i think that including it depends on how quickly and

how the united states, congress will deal with it question, and they will approve a new budget resolution, new funding, and i repeat, we have a direct interest in this happening, because 24 billion, including, i think, may then include ballistic, serious missiles for the armed forces of ukraine, what kind of tricks they will fight... and how to use them, i think, here it is not necessary to ask nvik, but the diligent commander-in-chief of our general staff, who, i confirm, directly work with american partners, military specialists, those more pentagon like you know, he sends not only auditors, but also serious advisers, technical assistance, serious experts, military personnel who work with our specialists of the armed forces of ukraine 24/7 , that is, around the clock in all matters

related to the supply, repair, and use of modern weapons and equipment that our partners give us, the same will happen with ballistic missiles. despite the absence of atakams, we can see how ukraine has been quite successfully fighting military targets over the past few weeks russian occupiers in the annexed crimea, we see that the headquarters of the black sea fleet of the russian federation has been destroyed, the pppo system has also been partially destroyed. we see strikes on command posts and military airfields located on the crimean peninsula. in your opinion, when will the moment come when the russians will simply flee from the crimean peninsula and possibly even towards turkey into the black sea, as more than one army has fled. during different wars? i

think two things are lacking in our armed forces forces the first are long-range missiles and concrete-blasting missiles, such as the german taurus and the american atakams, which you and i just talked about on the air, and the second are fighters, modern f16 fighter aircraft, but with modern radars, with a modern digital sky . about which i have already spoken, and for our ministry of defense of ukraine, this is a very urgent task and it is important that such a software product appears, as soon as these two things are received, the armed forces of ukraine, our general staff, then we will really have not just an even balance, but a weapon for the liberation of the temporarily occupied crimea, the south and east of ukraine, this week the defense forces of ukraine attacked the headquarters of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, 34

officers were killed, according to the ukrainian side, they talked about the death of the commander of the black sea fleet fleet of the russian federation sokolov, however, russian propaganda spreads the topic that sokolov is alive, he is regularly shown on propaganda tv channels, a little earlier it was about the fact that maybe not ramzan kadyrov is already alive, because he had some health problems, and the fact that these problems were with health was also said by the secretary of the nsdc oleksiy danilov and the head of the gur of the ministry of defense of ukraine, general budanov, today, after already how sokolov was scrolled on all tv channels, and it is not clear what quality this video is and when it was filmed, today kadyrov was already shown at a meeting with putin, where the leader of chechnya swore to the master of the kremlin that he

would be with putin until the end, and he said about, tanks, abrams, for some reason he was talking, but it is obviously about abra. let's take a look at this fragment, because it is very revealing, it boasts that it is both a humanitarian direction and a military one, that your detachment is showing good results there, every day they take french troops, every day they destroy equipment, no one calls it home, whatever it is, i think that we... well, at least someone cheered putin up, you see, he smiled as much as you, as a specialist in security and special operations, as, as you assess, the information component of the defense forces of ukraine now, because i understand that we

all- after all, we are talking about information as well an important component that is now being quite actively implemented by the sbu, sso, and gur. firstly, the component, secondly, we really have specialists, i myself, when i left the service, we recruited such young people in counterintelligence, in cyber defense, and thank god, they are working now, fighting, defending the country, including both in cyberspace and in the information space, which concerns the use of information and propaganda in general during the war, it is very important for us not only to have these specialists, but also to have a budget for such departments that can and must lead informational counter-propaganda, and it is very important that our special services and military intelligence, and counter -intelligence of the sbu, and other ukrainian special services have at their disposal the means

that would allow and disseminate information, would prove true information about the successes of the armed forces of ukraine, and in ukrainian , in english and other languages , it is extremely important, i watched cnn while preparing for the broadcast, in fact there are not many materials in english and from ukraine, because we are concentrated, i think, well, everyone should take us and understand our videos, no, this is not enough, i think that, including , taking into account how we work with nato, how we work with the european union, it is very important for us for our specialists to allocate a budget for foreign broadcasting as well. and on proving true information about the crimes committed by the aggressor, about crimes against humanity, about the real successes of the armed forces on the battlefield and in ukrainian and other languages ​​of the un, this, i think, is the component that is now very important for our armed forces, well we have inomovlenya, or

there was inomovlenya, then it became a tv channel house, and there the broadcast came, i'm not talking about that, it 's completely different, mr. serhiy, and it... has nothing to do with the professional, security and defense needs of ukraine. you mean that it should be a special structure of some kind, which will be formed by specialists of the appropriate, specialty, level, we have specialists, i only spoke about the budget primarily because the army radio, army television and army press centers , not only one or two speakers, with all due respect to these ladies who do important and difficult work, you can also it is necessary to use it more widely and have an extensive network in ukraine, in the modern world of digital media, and not only to convey the truth, to convey true information , well, let's be more specific, well, we all know,

ukrainians, we are informing that there are currently hearings about genocide in gaza , where russia used the convention between'. people against genocide as a specter for the invasion and the unleashing of a full-scale war against us in february of last year, but it is important for us in this connection that both before and during the meeting of this un international court informational materials, testimony of victims of russian aggression, children and so on, including in english and french , that is, the languages ​​of this un international court, this is one of the reasons why it is so important, mr. valentin, another important statement was made today by the president kazakhstan, tokayev, who was in met with olaf scholz. he said that kazakhstan supports western sanctions against the russian federation imposed

because of its invasion of ukraine. and germany should not be afraid that astana will try to help moscow bypass them. during the year and a half of the great war, there was a lot of information in the mass media about the fact that, including through kazakhstan, some components were sent to the russian federation. since russia is not supplied directly, and iran was named, and kazakhstan was named, other countries that are part of the odb , which are partners of the russian federation in this military structure, the organization of the collective security agreement, this is what the statement of kasym zhomart tokayev means, it means that china in this situation, which has influence on kazakhstan and to the leader of kazakhstan. after all, it is already being determined about the future of russia and what

pin is saying through tokayev's mouth, is it not true? yes, this means that china also introduced these restrictions earlier, especially with regard to combat components, combat drones, especially to the russian federation, and the president of kazakhstan coolly made a cool statement and from the right place, that is, from... belina is next to chancellor scholz, what about the sanctions and compliance with the need to comply with the sanctions imposed on russia due to aggression against us, against ukraine, i will tell you more, we are now we are working very actively with our european partners from the position of the verkhovna rada's committee on ukraine's accession to the european union, in order to further impose stricter restrictions in the european union on all companies, countries, and parties that supplied or can supply components for shaheed and terrorist missiles of the russian federation

, and these are not just words, now a very serious revision is underway in the european countries themselves, and eurokisia takes, and we will help it , a tough position in order to block supply of components, starting with these so-called shaheds, and in fact they are barrage munitions, because even european companies received components from european countries, and the russian federation, together with iran, used them to assemble these shaheds, which every night destroy ukraine, ukrainian infrastructure, kill our people , well, the last two or three nights, unfortunately, this is our native odesa, and there is the most destruction, although cherkasy and kryvyi rih also suffer from such terrorism, but the terrorist russia receives these weapons and components... including from european countries, this will be put to an end, and it is very important that such countries as

kazakhstan, turkey, also take a definite position and do not allow transit through their territory, do not allow middlemen, companies with their countries, to supply the russian federation with any components for russia's terrorist weapons. today, mr. valentin, another rather important piece of information for ukraine appeared, because the prosecutor general of poland confirmed that the missile that fell on the territory of the republic in november 2022 and killed two people, belonged to ukraine, and they, the polish side, warsaw say that we appealed to the ukrainian side regarding cooperation in this case, but, as the minister of justice from bignivro said, the decision not to cooperate with poland was made at the high political level of the ukrainian state, what is the recognition by poland of this missile, of ukrainian origin, or

shall we say, ukrainian, because they say there, either a soviet or a russian missile, but the fact that it came from the territory of ukraine, launched from the territory of ukraine, and what it means now, in what way, official kyiv should react, because i did not see an official reaction during the day, is that correct? we had a reaction from the very beginning, if you remember, including the ukrainian side, we then proposed to the polish side that our investigators come to the site of the fall of this missile, it seems that it was from the s-300 complex, it was likely , and moreover, then our american partners from the fbi were ready and willing to join the investigation and help the polish side, rather the polish side really now a certain stage has passed and now the main version is that from the territory of ukraine, is this one

of the missiles working or not, but unfortunately , near the border, but still there were human casualties on the territory of poland, the position of ukraine is very simple, we do not exaggerate it as the scandal is political, all the more in the interests of the russian aggressor, but i am convinced that the general office of the prosecutor general will be fully and ready to provide all legal assistance to the polish side, and legal assistance will now be actually only one, the polish side will ask about confirmation. that in the ukrainian armed forces, such a c300 system was on combat duty and protected the ukrainian sky, i think that such information is completely, our law enforcement officers can and will provide it to the polish side, there is no policy or any political, political prohibition, no, poland on our ally and we protect and will protect allied relations with this

country. another story, the very end of our program, which happened in the canadian parliament, because today the prime minister of canada, justin trudeau, apologized for the invitation to the parliament of a veteran of the sss halychyna division, this is a 98-year-old veteran, yaroslav gunko, and they in canada are talking about the fact that, well, you see , that's what happened, it was a terrible disturbance of the memory of millions of people who died during the holocaust, well, that is, a lot do it statements and many resignations in the canadian parliament about this, about the speech, or the presence of a veteran of the sss galicia division, but in this case, russia has made an effort to increase this level of information, because in the end, the fault of the sss galicia division is not proven in the nyur trial, there were none, and

this veteran lived in canada for 45 years and no one. there were no complaints against him, until suddenly he got into the canadian parliament, when zelensky was there, and this scandal broke out, i will say that this artificial scandal was definitely fanned and fanned by the russian federation, definitely used and uses such hype as another of its propaganda about what nazis there are in order to correct the murders of ukrainians from crimes under the slogan of so-called denazification, remember, that it was putin before the invasion, this is what he thought, along with the genocide, for which we now want to bring him to the un international court of justice in gaza, for the fact that he abused this concept and lied about some kind of genocide there in donbas, in fact in donetsk or luhansk

regions, and even more so no genocide, but returning to canada, i will say that i am so excited and as a person who opened all the archives of the kgb when he was in charge of the security service of ukraine, i will tell you that these lies about the ukrainian soldiers of the upa, about the ukrainian liberation the movement was distorted and you know artificially created by the inkadists themselves, there were whole divisions in the nkvd, whole divisions in the kgb, then those that were engaged in only one thing, were falsified and artificially created. the indication that the ukrainian liberation movement, or ukrainian soldiers who fought during the second world war for the liberation of ukraine, and they, it is clear that even in soviet times, moscow, the kgb and so on, were attributed to the nazis, mr. valentin, forgive the time of our program is limited, i have a schedule, thank you for participating in the program, it was valentyn nalyvaichenko, friends, it was a verdict program welcome serhii rudenko, i wish everyone good

health and all the best, take care of yourself and your moles. goodbye, congratulations, jofer umerav works on the air ukraine, in the studio in london. today in the program we are talking about the ukrainian offensive and what are the next goals of the armed forces of ukraine. the ukrainian authorities admit that the offensive is not happening as quickly as planned, after months, what is the main goal of the armed forces of ukraine and what obstacles do they have to overcome? the military command of ukraine calls the main goal of the offensive to return control of the city of tokmak in the zaporizhzhia region, but this is only a minimum