lyvvaichenko, friends, this was the verdict of privyvia serhii rudenko program, i wish everyone good health and all the best. take care of yourself and your loved ones, goodbye. greetings, on the bbc. ukraine. jafer umerov works in a studio in london. today in the program we are talking about the ukrainian offensive and what the next goals of the armed forces of ukraine are. the ukrainian authorities admit that the offensive is not happening as quickly as planned, after almost four months, what is the main goal of the armed forces of ukraine now and what obstacles do they have to overcome? military the command of ukraine calls the main goal of the offensive to return the city of tokmak under the control of the region, but this is only a minimum goal,

the maximum is the restoration of the borders of ukraine in 1991, general oleksandr tarnavskyi said this earlier. in general, as observers note, the ukrainian offensive has slowed down due to russian defense structures, minifields, dragon's teeth and trenches. western support is important for ukraine's success. defense ministers of france and britain, as well as nato secretary general jen stoltenberg, came to kyiv. stoltenberg said that ukraine is now closer to nato than ever before. president zelsky and nato's gentsek discussed, in particular , the provision of additional pppo systems, which are critically important ahead of winter. and, speaking about the ukrainian offensive, the head of nato noted the progress. now your armed forces are advancing, they have to lead. fierce battles,

but they gradually occupy the territory. every meter that the ukrainian armed forces regain is a meter that russia loses, and this is such a sharp contrast, ukrainians are fighting for their family, for their future, their freedom. moscow is fighting for its imperialist illusions. and about obstacles to the attack of the mine. the russian military mined large areas in the occupied territories. and it is mines that slow down progress. sou. bbc correspondents visited one military base in poland, where british military engineers who had experience with similar obstacles in afghanistan are now training ukrainian sappers. just imagine doing it under targeted enemy fire. trying to find and neutralize a tightly hidden device that can kill you to kill that's what. this is what

these experienced ukrainian engineers have been doing for the past year. now they are perfecting their skills here in neighboring poland. yes, they are helped by british sappers. they were dealing with similar threats in afghanistan. what do they have to deal with in ukraine? the land is covered with russian mines and explosives, ukraine is currently the most mined country in the world and this is what hinders their progress. russia has left hundreds of thousands of mines throughout the territory of ukraine, in terms of size, this is more than the territory of the american state of florida. in some places , minefields extend ten kilometers deep, and sometimes there can be up to five mines on one square meter of land. such now, like

denys, nowadays the targets are for the russian military, so they have to work mostly at night, but there are not enough of such specialists. do you agree with the statement that the profession of a ukrainian sapper is currently the most dangerous in the world? yes, absolutely, many of them were killed by mines, russian artillery, because they worked on the front lines? so. have you lost many friends? what would you like to say to those at the event? don't stop, we need your help. are you worried that the event will stop helping? because we cannot do it on our own . britain handed over

15 minesweepers to ukraine, there is hope that such equipment will affect the situation at the front. after all, we are comrades in the service, and we share our experiences during this course and take theirs, we train together. do you think that the skills they learned will help them survive? we tried to teach them this. the time for ukraine's offensive is running out, and still on their way. mine traps and huge fields. and we are in touch with military expert and reserve colonel petro chernyk, i congratulate you, at what stage is the ukrainian offensive now? the ukrainian offensive,

strategic goals, we are deploying forces in the south have the main task of touching the northern poazov region, we have made a very serious step forward in overcoming the so- called. which is about 25 km wide, where we are now in the middle, i must emphasize that as soon as this is possible, then with the exception of fortified cities such as melitopol or tokmatk, the act of digging serious obstacles, then there is a chance to go to the sea even in this cycle of dry weather, and the second very serious point is bakhmut, there is an opportunity to go to its operational encirclement, as soon as this happens, then in fact it can be cascade collapse of the front. it is very important to destroy that group there, and even better, thousands of russians surrendered as prisoners, but we understand that this is a very difficult task, because the enemy is still fighting fiercely and, let's say, according to bakhmut himself, he is not going to surrender, because this issue is political, personally for putin. and to do it by

the end of this year, is it realistic? everything will depend on how much equipment and weapons we receive, and especially now there is a very urgent need for long-range missiles, if our western partners. first of all, the united states of america will provide us with a sufficient number of long-range heavy missiles with a warhead of more than 200 kg and in cluster equipment, including more than a few dozen, and preferably several hundreds, there are more than 4,000 such missiles in warehouses, and we as a country are the operator of the m142 , hymars and m-270 are second in the world, we know how to use it, then it is quite real, but again i will emphasize, weapons, weapons and once again weapons, and of course aviation 61 machines in 16 are covered, this is incredibly good, but it is desirable to give them a huge number of heavy bombs and long-range missiles. and in your opinion, how can autumn weather generally affect the offensive of the armed forces? well, we understand very well, russia has brought us back to world war ii, we are now fighting

in the trenches, especially now in the second line, where there is now fierce fighting on the southern bridgestone, it is a huge network of chances, dugouts, various fortifications and so on. similar, and if the ground becomes wet, then really heavy, heavy equipment, let's say tanks weigh from 57 to 75 tons, will not be able to move, however, we have changed the philosophy of destroying artillery, because it is artillery that hinders the movement of heavy tank columns, the further we push it , here we have very good steps forward, the easier it will be for us to move, and on roads with a hard surface, in general, ukraine and the south, especially this is a rather high density of hard roads, the movement will be offensive in will not change, it only slows down, it is obvious, and if the ground freezes, because it can happen, last winter was mild, this one may be frosty, then it will be possible to move on the ground, in a general sense, winter modifies combat actions, but in no way cancels them

, stay in touch with us, let's hear what about the ukrainian offensive, says an american military observer, a former army commander... of course, the ukrainian army uses everything it gets, whether it's old howitzers with old ammunition or new equipment , which comes however, they have start from uncomfortable positions, and they go against an army huge in size and number of equipment. what immediately struck me about the ukrainian soldiers was how technically savvy they are, how adaptable they are, more than that. than any other country i have seen. and it is not true that the american and german governments provided them with everything they could provide, if we talk about high-precision long-range weapons. europe actually provides twice as much

as the united states. there were a lot of promises, but not a lot of things sent of what was delivered, these are abrams tanks, and they, what. didn't arrive so i guess the only metric that matters is how much of what ukraine needs to win has been delivered, ie the round numbers called mean nothing, just how much is needed for them to win, relative to the idea that putin should be allowed to leave crimea, i totally disagree, it's like saying why don't britain give up wales or manchester, say for peace, let the russians have it for peace, that's ridiculous, why is this considered normal, as if it were the 18th century, to say, give ukraine, let them take crimea for the sake of peace. anyone who understands history knows that russia will not be satisfied with any part of ukrainian

land, they must be defeated, that is the only end. and the military expert, petro chernyk, is in touch with us, and ben godges mentioned the abrams, how they will help in the offensive of the armed forces, the quantities that they are currently provided are 31 vehicles, let's be honest and fair, at some point definitely will be useful. abrams good heavy, has simply incredibly high-quality armor protection, to protect the infantry that moves behind it, a good gun, by the way, the same as in the leopard, that is, the shells are interchangeable and at a distance of up to 4 km, such a good auxiliary artillery, but if we speak about the large tank fists of, let's say, the second world war, and i emphasized that we have returned there in terms of the logic of conducting hostilities, then 31 vehicles, well, this is not a serious conversation, we need at least a tank division, a tank division... that is behind 300 vehicles, fine we understand that now, at least in the short term, it is unlikely

that we will be able to obtain such a large number of such high-quality defense equipment. yes, if we talk about air space, but without modern aircraft, advancement is possible , do you think, we are really fighting a unique war, and here our western colleagues are somewhat surprised that we do not have air superiority, and we do not have it, we carry out an offensive against a significantly larger enemy, in general the phenomenon is that the 15th army of the world attacks the second army of the world, which considers itself invincible, and considered itself legendary, but we dispelled this legend and turned it into a bridge, we hope that f-16s will appear as soon as possible, we have already talked about them, and the range of weapons for them is 105 indicators with cluster ammunition included and with a wide variety of air-to-air missiles, including, because it is necessary to shoot down their aircraft, which drops heavy bombs. and it is possible, say, with the help of such a missile as the aim 120 strikes up to 180

km, but again, when they will arrive and how many weapons will be given to it, this is a question for now that remains open, but i would like to know what awaits the armed forces after the breakthrough of the first line of russian defense, we broke through the first line of defense, security, there were huge minefields unprecedented in the second world war, now we are in the second, fighting in the trenches and this it is very difficult and, unfortunately, bloody, but as soon as we pass it, then the third line is the rear line and reserve positions, this is by and large already a breakthrough, and if there is a breakthrough, then large shock columns can enter it and carry out a classic coverage and to strike left and right in the back of the enemy, or to lay siege to such cities as tokmak or melitopol, well, it is not entirely correct to talk about their assault, no one will go to frontal attacks, because no one will afford such large... drinking ramparts as russia did and is doing in bakhmut. but how can you carry out

demining, what equipment is needed for this. there is equipment, such a machine as the american m-58 is very excellent, it shoots a combat rope for 90 m, for every meter there is a shoulder strap of 7.5 km, c4 explosives and everything there turns into powder, a breach with a width of 60 m, and so step by step you can continue further, plus machines behind with pickets and trawls based on leopard tanks, but these are very convenient targets, until we move their artillery installations so far that they cannot take these targets, after all , unfortunately, we will do it manually and have shown that we know how to do it, thank you, military viewer, petro chernykak was in touch with us, and that 's all for today, look for more stories on our website bbc.ua and on our pages in on social networks, and we will be on the air again tomorrow at 9 p.m. take care of yourself

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hello, this is svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda, top guests every day, this is the shipping district, kherson, live inclusion, we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut, we tell the main thing, on weekdays at 9:00, my greetings, this is svoboda live, my name is vlasta lazur and today in the issue: russian volunteers from the legion of freedom of russia announced that they entered the territory of the bilhora region and that there is currently a battle going on. what is happening and for what purpose the russian legion went to belgord again for direct communication and svoboda live should come out with a representative of the legion, we expect. the ministers of defense of france and great

britain, as well as nato secretary-general jen stoltenberg, arrived in kyiv on an announced visit. what is the purpose of the visit and what is the situation at the front, looking back. sees the west, about that in a minute, and the unrecognized nagorno-karabakh republic will cease to exist on january 1 , 2024, how will the balance of power in the south caucasus now change, where is the place of russia, which claimed leadership in the region, and most importantly, can it ukraine will learn its lessons from nagorno-karabakh, about it today in svobodalai. august. became the country with the least territorial changes for ukraine as a result of russian aggression, the new york writes about this times. based on data from the american institute for the study of war, the journalists state that both ukraine and russia started the year with ambitious plans, but as a result of heavy battles with heavy losses, the change in the front line turned out to be insignificant, and territories changed hands. according to

the new york times, ukraine has made small gains in the south, but russia has taken a bit more land overall, mostly in the northeast. according to the newspaper, both russia and ukraine faced similar problems, positions, fighting forces remain heavily fortified, and experienced soldiers and teams killed early in the war are replaced by recruits who often lack training. in addition, it is quite difficult for ukrainian troops to advance behind mined fields and hundreds of kilometers of fortifications during a counteroffensive. at the same time, the russian forces comfortably hold the already occupied positions, but do not advance. the slowdown of the ukrainian counteroffensive, as the new york times writes , poses certain risks for ukraine, in particular, the weakening of support. of the event, or through lack of political will, or simply because of unwillingness to give kyiv more weapons. this is how the western press sees the situation at the front, and meanwhile, the american institute

for the study of war notes in its current report that russia may start purchasing missiles from iran in october. the report notes that moscow and tehran may conclude an agreement on the sale of drones and missiles after october 18, when un sanctions on iranian arms expire. at the same time, iran will have the right to export missiles and related missiles technology without international control, which will give it the opportunity to meet the military needs of russia, says the institute's review, and in the same review, the current one, it is noted that on september 27, the ukrainian military continued counterattacks in the west of the zaporizhzhia region and reached positions near verbovoy, located on west of the city of orikhov, at a distance of 16 km to the southeast, what is going on there, oleksandr kurbatov, head of the public relations service of the 128th territorial defense brigade of the city dnipro has already joined our broadcast, good evening.

good evening, i must tell you that we are not there, this is also the zaporizhia direction, but the zaporizhia direction, yes, i meant in the zaporizhia direction, what is happening, in general, but where you are, you manage to achieve success on that part of the front where you are breaking out, yes, where yes, well, today there was quite a lot of good... news today, here we are, well, half an hour ago, one enemy bmp caught fire in the forest lane, i know that in our direction too, the enemy's armored vehicles are still burning, i congratulate all those involved who destroyed this armored vehicle today, it's not just one car, and it's very nice, but despite everything, despite the fact that the enemy has a lot of armored vehicles, despite the fact that the enemy has a lot of power, well he can't do anything with ours, even more so, you see, his armored vehicles are on fire, this is a big event, every , every destruction of enemy equipment is, well, for

our soldiers, it's a holiday, in what state of resistance of the russian troops, it is meant, how much they manage to hold the defense of the occupied positions because i just quoted the american press, there they point out that at least if they don't attack , they more or less manage to hold the defense, well, you know , i guess it's better to ask the soldiers on the front line, where there are currently quite tough offensive actions, we have them in the same way, they are fighting, i am against assuming that the enemy is scattered somewhere, that’s all, no, no, no, the enemy has quite a lot of strength, despite this, he does not succeed in anything, despite this, well, tough battles are going on , in our direction so... it happened, yes, i don't know why it happened, but it happened, what there were never any mobs in our direction, there were never those people running away from the position, we have a usually

highly skilled enemy force fighting us, and they are people who have had a lot of contracts, and so it is a serious enemy, and what succeeds to defeat this enemy, to not let this enemy pass somewhere, is a great achievement in itself , and i think that i can't just ... i can't just tell you some details, but despite all the efforts of the enemy, we have success, it's very important, with on the other hand, all this is given by very hard, hard work, going nowhere, many mines remains, the enemy has a lot of power, the enemy is not only at war with us, he is at war with the civilian population, he is shelling populated areas regularly, in fact every night with rocket... shelling, he is destroying the homes of ordinary people, well, he is trying to sow chaos.

oleksandr, with the representatives, with the military, and with the representatives of the military command, when we had to talk, they say that for the near future, the main goal of the armed forces of ukraine, the main goal, so to speak of the offensive, is the liberation of the city of tokmak in the zaporizhia region, please tell me if there is any prospect that this city will be liberated by the end of the year, you know, i cannot know the answer to this question, because just like us and you, we read news and information from the general staff, from the command of tavria, there new news constantly appears, the ordinary fighters who are here have several tasks, and the first task is to survive, the second task is to win, because there are clashes, there are fierce clashes, people have to, well, when we say that here is zero, this is not the zero where they simply exchange -

firing from mortars, yes, this happens from time to time, no, now it is very , very hot here all the time, fierce fighting is going on all the time, people who are at zero here, well, these are people who have to turn on the maximum both physical and moral, moral co-preparation in order to act successfully, and in this regard, and we ourselves are actually waiting for news from that direction, we hope for the best, but i don’t have any, any insight from that side, and that, i could would not say, because you know, if we report on each result, there about every landing, about every advance there, we will simply inform the enemy, and when there is information from the general staff, yes, then we can talk about it, the last

question, we will now show the map so that there is an idea where the tokmak is located, there is two scenarios, yes, many now hope that the city will be liberated by the end of the year, well, or it will not be possible to be liberated, that is how events may develop in the case of the front, if the city is liberated and if the city is not liberated, i can tell you simply those analysts who have already said this against, well, in general, it is a big transport hub , it is a junction... heaps of roads and it is still our land, even this is enough to make it important, considering the fact that there are many roads, taking into account the fact that we can move our artillery closer there somewhere, this is very important in general, i do not know if this is the only such direction, i do not know what plans our general staff has, but by itself or

similar cities with... such an insane amount of roads, with actually affecting the railways, yes, it is possible there, it already passes there, yes, and this, this is the supply of the enemy , weapons and people, and even water and food are coming there along those routes, all this is an army without all this, without weapons, without medicines, without fuel, but it's just a bunch of people, and armored vehicles without fuel are a bunch of scrap metal, i think that 's exactly what matters, is there a single such point, is there anything in stock, i don't know, just like you, but we all hope that will be successful. oleksandr, thank you very much, take care, we are always glad to see you on our air. oleksandr korbatov, head of the public relations service of the 128th brigade of the teroborona of the city of dnipro. thank you. well, in kyiv, meanwhile

, volodymyr zelenskyi held talks with nato secretary general jens stoltenberg, who arrived in the ukrainian capital today. this visit was not announced in advance, according to the president of ukraine, the meeting discussed the real situation on the battlefield and the need for ukrainian soldiers, in particular , the possibility of supplying kyiv with additional air defense systems. nato secretary general jen stolteng also reported on several deaths contracts for the manufacture of weapons for ukraine and partners. today i can confirm that nato has framework contracts for major munitions worth €2.4 billion, including €1 billion in orders. these are 155 mm artillery shells, anti-tank guided missiles and ammunition for main battle tanks. this will help allies replenish their supplies while continuing to support ukraine.