[000:00:00;00] was always sure, the armenian is now becoming an enemy of russia, well, this is another achievement of putin's policy, well, what can i say, well done, well, such an opinion, it really can be, and it was really said that during putin's meeting with erdogan in sochi, there was a wide range of issues, not only the grain agreement, but and there was information about the fact that they allegedly already divided the black sea, which means that turkey and the russian federation will be split in half for the zones of influence, in general, they agreed that they will not interfere there in any way, but that's all it is at the level of these rumors, opinions and so on, but what about azerbaijan, as it were, it gradually

left the field... of influence, let's say russia, and came under the influence of turkey quite a long time ago, and we know this, in general, this is not the first year, this, and by the way, the azerbaijanis, they worked quite actively in terms of adapting nato standards and practices in general, in fact, the azerbaijani army, it turned into, let's say, turkish, let's say, according to their standards, by construction and so on. so, that's why, well, i understand that putin just looked, and in the situation in which he is now, it is not the best, here , the three-day special military operation in ukraine has already stretched for three years, and it is not clear what the results will be, well, i understand, he just decided

, it is possible to concentrate forces on possible operations in ukraine, but i do not think that this in any way concerns crimea, because , well, in principle, turkey also understands that the presence of russia in crimea is actually a prerequisite for some kind of conflict with turkey, historically so it was, and in principle, well, they, me i think that they understand this, they understand that crimea is in the hands of ukraine, it is most likely... an economic recreation zone with a minimum of security forces, and if crimea is in the hands of the russian federation, then we will not sink an aircraft carrier with a very with a large force contingent for the projection of military power into the mediterranean sea into the atlantic ocean against nato. and i also understand there

, well, there are many questions, i don't think so, and i, too, i worked a lot, well, with the turkish navy, they have such a very clear, well, such a connection with the government, with politics, by the way, can to say that the commander of the turkish fleet, his, well, let's say, official residence , it is located in a special quarter in ankara , directly opposite the residence of the prime minister of turkey, and well, in general, it is such a very , well, let's say, an honor get there and there are such serious means without security measures, i can say that the turks , the turkish navy, they were the first who very, let’s say emotionally already in september of 2014, said, well, let’s say, in the military environment, that they do not recognize the occupation of crimea of the russian federation, what is it the war, well, in that period of time, there were very, very careful assessments of

what was happening in our country, well, nobody, seriously, again, this, the conflict, rather, the war, which is gaining momentum, they, well, there were no such expectations, but here, and, well, another matter is that turkey really has many, many, many, well, many, many, well, very interesting areas of cooperation with the russian federation. and sometimes, well, as if these are business opportunities, they play a certain role, but again, i do not think that turkey has gone to the exchange of values, which means that it is occupied, but rather, crimea, ukrainian crimea, not russian crimea, it really

is such a strategic value for them, they always prove their thesis, even now, maybe they are smiling at putin, but putin can’t do anything, that’s why, well, i still i think that if there were any, well, it was putin’s inner desire, just to close this problem as soon as possible, so as not to count down, not to disperse the troops, and to deal with the situation in ukraine, because it is, well, such, let’s say, for him, very, well, well, quite close to the collapse of him, any intentions there, here, here, here. i think that most likely it is. ugh. mr. andrii, i completely agree with you, one should not think that erdogan wants to give something to putin. erdogan and the turks in general, they will not give anything, and because russia remains

a historical enemy of turkey, no matter what he says for the sake of diplomatic protocol, or sometimes, it seems to me that he brings putin there so painfully, every time there, he says, that he trusts him, although in fact i... that no one trusts him, and not until krymo occupied russia is a threat to turkey, well, the same as it is to ukraine, at the same time, ukrainian crimea is absolutely not, does not threaten turkey, it's just like two times two, it's absolutely clear, and i think that turkey's policy is that, well, yes, she, they wait more than they act, it's true, and sometimes it annoys us, well, apparently we treat each other well and somehow, in principle, in principle, well normal turks, they are for us, they definitely don't want to see russia approaching you, you rightly noted that the military understands this, and everyone, you know, that you

i wanted to ask, not a political issue, purely, purely a military issue, more precisely, a naval issue , and you can now compare the power of the fleet, the turkish fleet with the russian black sea fleet, i really don’t know how it is correct or not... or how it is the fleet of turkey is distributed across the seas or not, but in principle, that is, putin understands that the turkish fleet is powerful and they are developing it, it is an armed new fleet, unlike the black sea fleet, which was, not at its most powerful, even under the soviets, and the russian fleet as well , and now he under threat, he is hiding there from ukraine, this is how you think the ratio, well, the power of these fleets looks like? well, unequivocally, the turkish fleet is several times more powerful than the russian one, well, i, well, just as it were , i can say very quickly, maybe it’s three to

one, in favor of turkey, at least, and because, well, the point is , that the majority of the turkish fleet, it is in the mediterranean sea, and well they, again, given such... serious business relations, they are cautious about it, but well i i mean before a possible conflict with the russian federation at sea, although only the turkish fleet, you see, it’s a unit of special forces, i think it ’s somewhere in the bosphorus, they have special teams like this, this, this is their first, first here it is, meko 200, this carvabel, which was made in germany. this is a turkish corvette of the ada type, this is the olry, a ship, this was also transferred by the united states, they have over 20 frigates to the turks, and they are equipped with missile weapons, they have many submarines, many more,

than the russians, at least four times, they have a very serious aviation, f16, which they want to exchange for f-35, they are integrated into the link system, the nato system. issue a clear instruction, the turkish fleet can only be at the expense of the turkish fleet, russia, i apologize, is blocked in its ports, these are their boats, very nice boats, you see they have four missiles each, this is my dream for the ukrainian navy, that's why, well, they are already american arli bjork, that's why, well, they have serious potential, but politically, they behave very discreetly in in terms of the use of force, although when it is fundamental, remember the story with the flight of the su-24 over a small territory of turkey, they press the fire button and

shoot down that plane, without exaggeration, well, there are peculiarities here, well, in general, i i think that they are mainly due to business, but in terms of its preparation, the turkish fleet is very well prepared, it is one of the best, well, perhaps in terms of preparation, well, in the north atlantic alliance and in terms of the level of preparation and in terms of... total combat capabilities , by the way, they also took a lot of the united states, and from britain, here they are very active, developed their military -industrial complex in terms of shipbuilding, they adapted technologies, they developed their shipbuilding school, built their shipyards, took a submarine, took these licenses for the construction of submarines, they themselves build submarines of the german production is original, they build their own ships

, 25 years ago, this was impossible for turkey, but they, well, you see, due to such internal discipline, they, well, very seriously, they rushed forward in this direction, mr. andriy, i think , mr. andriy, why did i still subconsciously ask about it, because when i saw these shots, as you talked about it, this is the future of the ukrainian fleet, you just have to think about it. and our fleet should become as powerful as the turkish fleet, and then there will not be any talk at all about the fact that russia is claiming something there, and so after the victory of ukraine, it will become so, ukraine is a great maritime power and has to be, but for now we are really only dreaming about it, but even without an actual large fleet, yes ukraine is fighting quite successfully, please tell me, this is also a purely military issue, these atakam and

the missiles that have already been handed over to ukraine are, in principle, a kind of, well, in the near future, a curse for the possibility of the russian black sea fleet to attack ukraine , that is, they base a lot of things there and fire at us from ships, and this, how will it change, how can it change the situation specifically in crimea and specifically in the black sea, in your opinion? well, we now have two such serious arguments. such as the upgraded neptune missile, which fires at targets on coast, and the storm shadow missile , which also fires in the same mode, and that’s where attacks come in, and here are these three, let’s say, means, plus a huge number of unmanned aerial vehicles, which are also very necessary during these attacks, and they can really

be involved in the destruction of the enemy's critical military infrastructure, as well as airfields, and points , and control points of various headquarters, and logistical structures and ship bases, because, in principle, the peculiarity is that the russians base their ships when in bases, they use the so-called mediterranean method, setting up to the berth, that is, when... by the stern, they stand up to the berth and drop two anchors, and a very large cluster of ships is obtained, and in the case of using, for example, an attack with a battleship part, and the cluster, as it is called a cluster with a cluster warhead, can be destroyed significantly, in a significant area, in a significant area... that's right, ships, other

equipment that are located next to each other, that is, in principle, i think that such a strategy it was chosen, it began to be implemented, and such moments were found that could distract such a rather powerful system of pppo, the opponent, but such mechanisms exist, i think that this will continue, the main thing here is that we have, well, if we were supplied with this equipment, but we see that there are such trends , mr. andriy, the analytical house, some note that the russian side continues to search for some more or less safe place for what is at this stage from their black sea fleet, and now observed virtually without relocation of their ships from sevastopol to feodosia.

they think that it will be safer there, i don’t know, but less with what we understand, in ukraine, despite everything, the idea of ​​almost a mosquito fleet is being implemented right now, when in fact we cannot talk about any major battles there power at sea, but we are able in various ways to stall, as they say, enemy ships and make it so that... they do not come closer to some more or less safe distance for them, we all watched how the headquarters was affected of the black sea fleet, information is currently being collected for... special operations forces about who died, who has not yet been identified , and so on. i have the following question: to what extent does the level of efficiency and controllability of the black sea fleet in general decrease

, taking into account the minus of their top? well, management bodies are the basis of conducting hostilities, this is the basis of the management system , and in principle, together with it, well, like headquarters, these are control points, these are communication points, the surveillance system, that is, we see that all four are components management system, they are impressed, that is, the black army headquarters building itself, and therefore the headquarters element that was there, we see that now, that there were at least more than 100 people there, here is a protected command post in the form of a communication center, communication center, we also see that paradagrams are being hit, well, this is serious , i can't specifically tell you the percentage , the military can say that, because there are special calculations there, you need to know the situation in detail, but let's say, from the point from the point of view

of strategy, it is absolutely true, it is gradual sharpening the combat potential of the enemy, and he makes up precisely of his physical strength , that is, all the weapons he has, and manpower, and equipment, by the way, this is also a moral state, in terms of moral state, it is very, so it beats the enemy, because, as it were, after the second world war, there was not a single case when something flew past the headquarters of the black sea fleet without authorization, here it was hit by two missiles, each... there were more than 300 kg of explosives and almost the entire central part was taken out of this house, therefore, it affects, it affects negatively, i want to say that the russians really , after these attacks on sevastopol, they gradually, they brought out submarines,

novorossian, they had one submarine, well, the boygatovy, and well, the new yagadin is so little the older one, they transferred him to novorossiysk , they are a little... well, they have the fact that feodosia, she does not take many ships, there were a couple of landing ships, there were ships in kirchyshche, there were in novoozorny, but they will withdraw all the ships of sevastopol they cannot, just like the sea of ​​azov, they also say ships with a draft of no more than 7 meters can go there, that is, frigates and corvettes will not go there either, there may be amphibious ships there, again, they need to be based somewhere, but the ships are quite large, they need... basing points under them, then there are these attacks, they, well, as it were, act to reduce the combat potential of the enemy, and in general, i can’t say specific numbers, but what is strategic, it’s

a correct concept, it’s 100%, well, mr. andrii, what remains from the enemy's air defense capabilities in the crimea, can we to rely on: at least some data, at least approximate, well, we know that there are at least four s-400 systems, there are tor systems, there are tank systems, there is a detailed, detailed map, our intelligence, again, this is all traceable, i understand that these strikes on sevastopol were possible after we destroyed the segment of the pppo system on part of the peninsula, but there are many systems, and when we use missile weapons, and this city was not covered, they throw over the new pppo system, so when we they hit chongar, they redeployed the s-400 there, which they brought all the way from the far east, and

what ways do they pull it, after all, through the crimea or through the land so-called corridor, well , it is possible through a railway, railway crossing, it works. now they are going to the trains, that is, traffic is limited there, cars, i don’t think they will risk it, although it is possible, most likely they are transporting on the platform, because the railway bridge is still working, here most likely yes, well, in the crimea, if that chungar, of course, most likely it was through this corridor, which, now it is still under their control, that is, well, it is another matter that they do not have very many systems left, because they also have to cover moscow, and other places, and well, russia is very large in terms of territory, but there are not enough, you see, now there are not enough pppo systems to cover our cities, well, we look at where

it is not covered, and then we launch some talented drone there , who is doing something there, that means he is doing something there, no, let's not forget, that a closet, especially a large one, falls especially loudly, so it seems to me that this principle is very successful, and is very suitable for comparison with russia. thank you, mr. andriy, for joining our program together , beraber, andriy ryzhenko, captain of the first rank of the reserve, deputy chief of staff of the navy of the armed forces of ukraine from 2004 to the 20th year was with us. ayder, thank you for the fact that we had the opportunity to meet and talk about crimea, until the next meetings, together beraber. there are discounts on hepargin, 10% in

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different spheres of human activity. sports, health, politics, return of crimea, military analytics. nine presenters, journalists, experts, opinion leaders. in mode real-time, more topical: events through the prism of war in author's projects on espresso. congratulations, we received very encouraging news about ten-year-old liza galushko, who disappeared on february 24, 2022 in novaya kakhovka, kherson region. a woman contacted the children's search service and said that she saw our program about the search for liza galushko and recognized the girl. this girl, this liza - this is the face, well, the father's eyes, this, i am sure that this is this child. the woman said that in the spring of 2022 she was a volunteer at the red cross in barcelona and helped register refugees from

of ukraine. the woman says that ten-year-old lisa was among the refugees. and definitely lisa and definitely this blonde, these eyes, this is her, this is this child, it was either march or april, because they were still in their jackets. mrs. liana said that the girl came to barcelona from the kherson region with her parents. however , they allegedly said that lisa was adopted, and they call her not lisa, but veronika, although the girl's documents allegedly indicated lisa's name. i say: lizechka. do you like it here how did this woman hear that i was hers called liza, she jumped out of this chair, and runs up, runs up to me, and pounces like that, and say that we call him veronika, they speak russian, we call her veronika, she is adopted, she is not knows his name mrs. liana says that then

the girl, who looks very much like liza galushka, together with the adults who were with her, acted as refugees in spain, but where they are now is unknown. they are most likely in the territory of spain, because they received the refugee program and were distributed further throughout the territory of spain, but it is also not forbidden for them to leave with those documents to another state. after receiving the information from ms. lianna, we in turn contacted our colleagues from the international federation of missing children. europe, who should make a request to the spanish police, we hope that this way we will be able to find out if the girl the witness told us about is really lisa galushko and, most importantly, where she is now. but of course, as mrs. liana said, the girl may not be in spain anymore, in any european country. so please remember or write down this number 11630. this is the only european missing

children hotline that works in 28 european countries. therefore, if you are in one of the european countries and suddenly see a girl who looks like liza galushko, immediately report to the short number 1163. we are also looking for 15-year-old yulia kurbel, who disappeared in the luhansk region in the city of seyeronetsk. a friend of yuli turned to us for help. the girl did not want to talk on camera, but in a private conversation, she told some details that can become important in the search. so, it is known that when... the war began, yulia first made herself known, but in march 2022 , when severe shelling began in severodonetsk, the connection with the girl was cut off, and since then, unfortunately, there is no news about her. we also know the exact address where yulia kurbel lived, tseverodonetsk, gagarina street 117. here is the actual photo of the house where yulia lived, now i am primarily addressing the residents

of occupied severodonetsk, if you happen to see this program, i ask you if possible to come to gagarin 117 and ask the residents of this house about 15-year-old yulia kurbel, whether she still lives there or where and with whom she might be now? if you know anything about the fate of yulia kurbel, please contact us immediately on the free hotline of the children's tracing service at the short number 1163. and the very end, please go to the page of the children's tracing service as if you recognize someone, do not remain indifferent and report to us on the hotline 1163 or to the chasbot of the children's search service in telegram. we have created a resource through which you can report any crime against a child, anywhere, anytime, just go to the site and report, and we will launch

all possible mechanisms to punish the offender. stop by and welcome all viewers of the tv channel, we start the information day with news, khrystyna parubiy works in the studio. three women were killed by russian terrorists in kherson, it was reported. in the office of the president. the previous evening, the occupiers shelled the city with artillery. twice a day muscovites attacked nikopol with drones kamikaze, damaged a private house, a high-rise building and an infrastructure facility. yevhen yavtoshenko, the head of the nikopol district military administration, reported. people were not injured. russia does not stop the terror

of sumy region. during the day, the region was shelled 30 times - the regional