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live, objective and meaningful political analysis, there is no political season, exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. svoboda life is frank and impartial, you draw your own conclusions. and not by themselves, but as promised yuriy gudymenko, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, the head of the ukrainian association mriya is already in our studio, and what's more, roman is already holding in his hands a book, so yuriy gudymenko, stories and wars, let's see, because this book will be presented in lviv, and who would have expected that your pixel would come to you
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a friend will give you a book that he definitely... he didn't intend to write. moreover, you must tell him, thank you for your service, yuri and i definitely did not foresee this, never before the war, we could talk with him many times. how about a politician, a young politician about old politicians, terrible, and even more terrible old voters of ukraine, hello yuriy, hello, what a new experience, this is with a book, it has the feeling of gamingway, but it is not even close, to be honest, because it is not i know, well because at least i'm not a gemengveist, come on, let's start with the simple things, yes, this one. no, actually, yes, it's important, yes, it's a dot in some past life, the beginning of something to come, the dot is bold, like that , black, yes, with the same yellow font, but - it's nice, it's really nice, it's nice that
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it became, well, simple, my god, a bestseller , and i personally like it, but i, i hope that the readers will be even more pleased than i was at first. the defense of kyiv region, then the liberation of kharkiv region, mortar shelling, injuries, and only after that, this creative, writing career actually began, right? well, yes, but what about rehabilitation, by the way, this is a question that is very important, we all cheered on facebook, put hearts, looked at every photo from the hospitals, no, well, it is much better, and for that we should thank both the ukrainian and to american doctors, because i was lying down for six months and there were no sure predictions that i would ever walk normally, in principle, but you saw how i was already running around the studio here, how it got much better, and with my hand, how could but in principle, i'm already used
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to being left-handed by and large, and i'm a book by the way, i signed for you with my left hand, pay attention, and the handwriting is better than it was with my right, well, in such a shul, he can write more than one book, or fire more than once from the correct beret, so the main thing is that, the arrival of the 120th the mortar and the writing of the book were no longer connected with each other, absolutely with each other, and, by the way, when i look at it, it is actually a tour of very different cities with a book, yes, once upon a time with a book written war, and you, that one, have to get to cities that are close to the war and to the front, and then go to a city that an optional war is going through... 15 minutes in the evening in the telegram channel in kalyanbar, optional, optional, yes, yes, what exactly, what thoughts, what impressions, what emotions,
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strange, it's very strange, because, well, recently we were in zaporizhia, i was in zaporizhia, and this is my hometown, and it is very damaged , not so much physically, that is, not so much in terms of destroyed. buildings, how many in terms of what is there, it is a constant feeling of war, there is 28 km to the front line, now, it is a constant understanding that the air alarm in works only after the arrival, because the s-300 does not have time to react to the air defense, and it is, well, very difficult there, in fact, but zaporizhzhia is holding. and it will stick, because, well, i liked that there are a huge number of advertisements that begin with the phrase we are working, that is, they are like, well, and they are really rushing to the occupiers that we are working, we are here, we are staying, you are nothing
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you can't do anything about it, we will work, no matter what you do, and this hope, it is in all cities , whether near or far, these are such cities, and we but the same thing was said about nikopol yesterday, and there are similar cossack sentiments there. these people who listen, read, they are the same as the hipsters on khreshchatyk, or not, or for example somewhere in lviv, now on the foothills, not on khreshchatyk, let's start with that, i don't know where they moved, but i mean, these cities are like these, here are these, well, of course, they are completely different, but i, well, i have been in a peaceful life for too long, yes, that is, for treatment, for rehabilitation to feel this, well it's black and white, yes, but
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when really, when we were still there, from scratch, we arrived in some measured town, it knocks you off the track, absolutely knocks you out, that is, you generally stop understanding what this is for, and this is probably the case with all military personnel, yes, that is, after some time, i don't know, maybe it's a month for someone, maybe more. someone has less, uh, you, well, you pour into this life and everything becomes okay again, as it was, but what knocks out is not so much the fact that someone is happy there, but someone dies, knocks out the fact that uh, there is such a feeling that people live here without any purpose, yes, because they are at the front everything is clear, there is a task, it must be completed, yes, but here people just live, well , they live day by day and after the war it is very difficult to understand how it is, well, it is simply very difficult to understand how it is for people, no one is there every day, or that what every hour does not say what exactly they should do, where they should go, in what direction to push.
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and this knocks it out, but again, adaptation, time and everything passes , you were looking at the t-shirt, actually, actually, you mentioned rehabilitation and about black and white, and it actually connected with your t-shirt, black - white and the inscription ptsd, not a cougar, you see, we encrypt for the audience, although i think everyone already knows, i do, unfortunately, this term has certainly become clear over the past year and a half, it is true for most ukrainians, and actually, when we talk about rehabilitation, we mostly mean exactly physical rehabilitation and recovery in the hospital, certain physical exercises to restore mobility, and on the contrary, i think more psychologically, probably watched an american film about iraq, we are talking about this, ptsd
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is about something else, and ptsd is just as present as physical trauma, yes, you've experienced it also, probably, absolutely, and the problem is that the psychological traumas that occur in the military and in civilians, by the way, too, because displaced people and people who were under fire and people who were hit are also forced to do so. .. and the missile obstri is just those people who watch the news all the time, yes, that is, they can all have psychological disorders, and there is a problem, the problem is that we are not ready at all for the number of psychological problems that will be in the nation , why, because firstly the system is not i expect such a number, this applies to everything, well, it applied to everything, the system was not very ready for war, for
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a full-scale war, and this also applied to the usual hospitals there, yes just for the wounded, and of course this applies to special institutions, and we do not have there are enough psychologists, we don't have enough, there was a problem until recently, but we avoided the issue of treatment, the issue of mental health, and it seemed that if someone turns to a psychiatrist, psychotherapist or such a specialist, then there is something wrong with this a person, and now everyone in fact, he is already traumatized by the war, it is difficult for us to judge, it is difficult to assess how it is happening with people who come from the front, if possible, of course, here are some of your nuances to share, so that you can see, how you would see, and that's how it should be to change this system in ukraine now, what should be added to make it a little easier for boys and girls who come from the front. you told about this moment that you were surprised, you were surprised by the fact that
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there seems to be no goal in general, but people are walking somewhere, doing something, no one is directing them, this in fact, it looks very light, it seems like a small problem, yes, you can live with it, but i think that there are many much more serious problems, there are, let's divide things into two types, there are things that we can deal with, there are , with which we cannot cope, and those we have now... we are not ready at all for small problems to solve, nor for big ones, regarding, well, regarding psychology, regarding psychiatry, regarding psychological considerations, we are simply not ready nothing to do, decide to start with difficult cases, because i think that i will not reveal the big secret that during any major war , not only hospitals are overcrowded, not only cemeteries, but also psychiatric hospitals, and in ukraine it is absolutely true now, and they are overcrowded.
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the military, who saw hell from the other side and could not stand it , and we need now to find out for ourselves that psychology and psychiatry have bent a little more than it was in soviet times, because we actually have a soviet system now, and now ukraine right now everyone, in there last month, if i’m not mistaken, there was another grant for the country, is there a grant or the loan, i don't remember, the grant is given. for the construction of buildings for psychiatric institutions, but again, it is planned to build huge eyes, like in the soviet union, monster mental asylums in which patients actually lie on top of each other, and this does not help them, on the contrary, it makes it worse, because they share one with one, what everyone has, everyone only has problems, and we have to move as soon as possible to the
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system that exists in europe, that exists in the united states, when these are mostly small buildings, somewhere surrounded by a park, in which very few patients. everyone is cared for and they are so scattered in, well, not in big cities, but in cities, and it is much more efficient than what is there now, it is not as beautiful, because there is no such, such a twenty-story building, where where you can cut the ribbon and all that, but if we talk about efficiency, it is much more effective and we need it for yesterday, yes, yuri, but one more moment, like this...' everything, everything i wanted to ask, since the time of contact, contacted only somewhere there through youtube, and through all kinds of messengers, but live, looking eye to eye, well, surely our viewers remember , yuriy was a very active politician, dem sokyra did not give
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way to all freaks in all corners of our country, but now there is such an unspoken rule, or an overt one, well at least on to the only marathon... it has been repeated as a mantra for a year and a half, it is not timely, but i kept wanting to ask, is it now time to hit those politicians who sometimes do more harm than the enemy at the front? this is a rhetorical question, if in this wording, cunning, the novel, cunning wording, well, if in such a wording, then of course it is, well, but i think that each person must for himself... measure whether he will not do more harm, now by attacking a politician, than the politician himself does , so here we have a situation of double different dimensions, here there is a politician who can harm the defense ability of the country, here there is , for example, me, who can also harm the defense ability, because i will expose
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him in crimes, no, well, everyone , each story must go separately, realistically, that is, now, there is no i don't know, let's call your honor a romanometer, yes, who will decide whether it is more correct to speak out, or it is better to remain silent, everyone has this romanometer in themselves, yes, and of course you, i and probably everyone else, when they already see absolute evil, then no one holds back and speaks about it and does it correctly, in my opinion, because there are, well, if there are people who are at the time to harm the defense capability, if there are people who are at the time to engage in corruption, then perhaps it is time to talk about this, well, there should be such a very simple logic, but it seems to me that as a result of the experience, on alas, the syndrome remains, and once again causality will not
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work, and once again we may end up with a post-war country even more tattered with completely illogical emotional choices. with absolutely illogical conclusions, we see that even in some cities that are under russian shelling, the game of russian peace continues, well, that's not all, i 'm just talking about it now, i'll ask you if there is you have a feeling we could get worse, a blow to the breath after, oh my god, no, what can be, well stop, let's to separate these concepts, and what can we after the end of the war, and i think that we will end this war with a victory, how can we get worse, we will get a massacre in the entire territory? i think no, we will argue , we will definitely argue, it will be necessary, because , first of all, war is not about logic, war
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is not about adding cold logic to every person, guilt on the contrary, blame that it is about emotions, and these emotions have bought. population for a year and a half, and of course, when the tap will be opened, and this tap will be some kind of election post-war years, yes, all of them there for a year and a half or how many at that time will be two, three , four years, yes, all of them, all this emotional pressure will simply spill out into aggression, and of course, and of course we cannot talk about a logical choice, we we cannot talk about it, we are talking about the fact that we are fighting for life and independence, and not for, i don't know, society there to become better, yes, we now have a task to survive. society, let's say society must survive, the ukrainian nation must survive, but we cannot demand from it, well something else, but the nation has shown that it knows how to defend itself, like cossacks, like riflemen, like rebels, but the nation has never been able to show that it knows how to think, draw
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conclusions, choose, that's it, we are such a nation, listen, okay , let's go, let's go without that, the most rated candidate in america right now is trump, we'll talk about the fact that the americans, well, can't do anything and haven't achieved anything, well, that's not true, okay, but the rednecks are not fighting, not now, not now, but at one time the soviets fought as far as the bigum, and a marine corps was built on the redneks in the united states of america, well, well, no, we are not worse, we are not better, we, we, we are a european nation with all its pluses and minuses, and we are not, we should not even glorify ourselves now, put ourselves on a pedestal and say , that we are perfect, we should not change, this is not true, we should change, because otherwise we will die, there is a process of evolution, but it does not, and we, but at the same time we should not say that we are the worst, we are stupid. we are not clear, no need, we are not like that, yuri, you mentioned the elections, but not only that, we are not about the future, not
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about the elections that should take place after war, we are now talking, but for some time they have been talking about the fact that maybe it should be held somewhere now, and maybe there should be no waiting for victory and the end of the war, and there are many such stories that make you think very much and i am alarmed, all the scandals with procurements, scandals with the fact that uh, you, there was a concept that the company should now return its profit from the execution of the government order, uh, you as a military serviceman, now, actually, you must have talked about such things with your brothers, like you perceive as something bullying, what are we doing here, and have we decided to play some political games, or what interpretation is there at the front, at the forefront of all these events in kyiv?
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of course, all this is perceived as very painful, well, it is very painful, because people regularly work at 200, 300, 1000%, they hope that the body will work at least by at least 100, or at least not in the minus, and every time when confirmation of the reverse is received, and then it is direct, it is direct bu. and mentioning the topic of elections, they also talk about it, by the way, i often talk about it , well, i am often asked about it, and so as a result of communication, what with the military, what with civilians, what with everyone else, and looking at the emotional state of society in general, i have a complete feeling , that in the upcoming elections, in the second round, oleksiy aristovych will go, firstly, secondly, a horse with two genitals and a horse may win, ah, well, because the level of psychological, psychological readiness of society to breathe out and accept
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the cold the solution, well, that's the answer to the question that i asked, well, i, too, will vote for the horse, if anything, well, uh, the horse , senator, there were such stories, but the last minute we have, and here is still a very important moment, was launched in the media, a force information special operation called: for the quick occupation of the southern regions of ukraine, the generals, all other military personnel, and no one else, should be responsible for the alkali, and the campaign began, and let's put everyone there now for the surrender of the south, but as of now it is difficult to say, where is she going, but i want to hear the military's comment, the comment will be very simple, as everything shows, this is as a military man, as a former politician, i want to say, as practice shows, very often people who open such pandora's boxes and
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