[000:00:00;00] level, what is the point, ukraine's complaint to the world trade organization, the embargo on four types of ukrainian grain , imported to five countries of the european union violated not only the legislation or agreements within the world trade organization, but also the agreement on the free zone of trade between ukraine and the european union, and the decision of the european union itself to remove... to remove all tariffs on ukrainian products after february 24, 2022. what will the european union be based on. this is a free zone, huge a free trade zone, there are no customs duties in the middle between countries, when a product enters the territory of the european union, it is subject to a free market economy, there is a structure, then it is bought, it does not have such a sale, it is simply not

bought. the embargo interrupted this, this... this chain, but if only it had happened, it would have been half the trouble, instead, ukraine is correct , deputy minister mr. taras kachka noted, after the statement of the polish minister of agriculture, that this embargo mechanism will be extended for a while, when ukraine becomes a member of the european union, and then it completely changes the rules, because in fact now these are the problems of the embargo and negotiations regarding its removal and the conditions under which ukrainian grain will enter the territory of all countries of the european union, this has actually already become an element of the negotiations on ukraine's accession to the european union, that one can only welcome, but that equal rules must be observed here, that is clear, and the ukrainian position here, i would say that it is unshakable, and the second element of this situation is that in a complaint to

the europeans in front of the world organization trade, to represent poland conditionally hungary, because only these two countries still remain, as problematic, who will represent their interests? the european commission, because the problem of trade within the european union is given as the exclusive competence of the european commission, not the member states. regarding relations with other countries from outside the european union, that is, in fact, they will not defend them, but will simply say that we canceled the restrictions, and they continue them, this is a very important question, how do you see it, no, of course, yes, mr. vitaly, because it in fact, what will the complaint then refer to, ukraine before the world trade organization , whether the european commission can do anything within the framework of the european union, and whether the free trade zone, which the european union, is in fact, or only as if, or we

are pretending, is it really this is how it is realized, with whom to talk in the european union, brussels can do something, or only the capitals of the member states of the european union, that is, it is an absolutely fundamental, principled issue and such a constitutive issue of the european union itself of the union, and of course, the european commission will not defend the positions of other countries, especially since the european commission said that it is canceling the embargo and there is no extension of the embargo, and that's all, that is... in the event that the european commission defends the european union. and tell me, mr. myroslav, how the story with this missile in pshevod looks now, because the polish side says that the investigation is over, it is a ukrainian missile. the ukrainian side says that the investigation is not over, because it still has the conclusions of the ukrainian commission. polish side blames the ukrainian side for not cooperating. does it affect the relationship at all, that's the whole story? well, of course, that

affects, of course, that affects, because. it is, well, such a sensitive issue, well, i can give my personal opinion, when the current minister of justice of poland, the prosecutor general in one person, makes such a sharp statement, and says that guilt has been proven here , well, otherwise, guilt, well, no guilt , but since it was a ukrainian missile, i would, out of caution, wait for the ukrainian commission to write, thank you thank you very much, yes, myroslav, czech, polish politician, public figure , journalist, deputy of the sejm of the second and second and third term in the sejm of the republic of poland, as i understand it, i wanted to say, by the way, what worries me about these stories with the european union another thing, we are now hearing from orban that how can ukraine be admitted to the european union , if it does not really have complete control over the territory, it is not clear how many people there are, you could hear it from orban,

but i read it today. interview of the new ambassador of the european commission in kyiv, i i don't know if you saw it, and she, and she says the same thing, in essence, kateryna maternova, that until moldova and ukraine decide: their territorial ones, they cannot be, but we really hope that while we are with them let's talk about 10 years, then everything will somehow resolve itself, and here the question arises, why, why, for example, could cyprus become a member of the european union, at that moment, they promised a referendum there, but when they were accepted, they did not control it half of the island is not controlled and still is not controlled, what makes an island better than the mainland, let's say this, well no, i have a very, i personally have a very simple version that i... i think i'm not wrong, but maybe i'm wrong, i think that cyprus just wanted to be part of europe in general, let's not forget , that 5 years ago, 10 years ago, unlike the same poland or hungary in the early 90s,

late 80s, 90% of the citizens of these countries, as well as in estonia, wanted, desired, they, they just simply they , they were physically cut off from their past by the soviet union. yes, from the european, the ukrainians, i wouldn't say that they really wanted it, we, we already talked about it have repeatedly said, let's not forget that in march 22nd, soci socia, such as this , and a sociological survey was not given to a huge number of ukrainians who wanted to join nato, it was necessary to receive rather serious tests for ukrainian citizens so that they would say, yes, it is really necessary in nato and five years ago, and 10, and 20, in contrast to the estonians, who in 55, who in 65, who in 75, the vast majority of estonians want, those who were lobbing

stood their ground and walked since the beginning of the 90s, let us remind you, ukrainian independence was also in the 91st year began, they got into nato and the european union wherever they wanted, and those who hesitated , now... they have, i apologize for the war with russia, so that's it, well, on the other hand, in any case , then we need to understand what we should hope for, and what the people should hope for, because they believe that we will carry out, fulfill these conditions, the president generally says that we will fulfill seven in a month, well, let's hope for the necessary for negotiations, let's start negotiations, but i have a huge question, quite serious, but serbia, let's say, she also did not want to the european union, yes, they are trying to drag it out at any cost, they are babysitting it, they are playing with it, and by the way, they also want it to sort out its relations with kosovo, with kosovo, yes, well, no, so what i just don't know how to behave in such cases, or to tell the truth, and the truth

is that it may be as the majority of ukrainians now in the 23rd year in the month of september want, or it may not be as the majority of ukrainians want , maybe it will be fast, maybe not. quickly, let's talk about it or not, let's be patriots and quickly, quickly, it’s faster to blame europe for everything and say that they bastards don’t want us , that’s why i don’t know how you behave, what the hell to do propaganda to journalists at all is also a question, but simple even if you look soberly and even with journalistic standards , the so-called bbc standards, i'm just honestly at a loss, i don't know, we have to... we don't have to, we have to say one way or another, we have to, well, push the government and call on the government to take more vigorous action, well we we can ask people if they are ready for painful compromises, that is

an important topic, today we saw this compromise, regarding this unblocking of the $50 million aid that we talked about from hungary, that we decided today that otp bank is not a sponsor of terrorism, in principle we understood that if we factories can hungarian to include the bank in some list, hungary has the opportunity, that is, everyone knows what the body is, we suddenly did it, he came to power, oh, what a person, and we thought that there would be someone else, well, this is a painful compromise, and about this compromise must be spoken, and to things, we don't know what our compromises will be with poland, with hungary, with other countries, when it comes to grain, the important thing is that we filed a lawsuit, you can, and then there will be no compromise, because the european commission will say poland, well, i'm sorry, you lost the court, what are you demanding, why are you blocking the negotiations, but these are the compromises that are available today, and what will be tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, no one knows, and it

will not work without compromises, and ukrainian society now mood, as i understand it, i could be wrong, i'm not a sociologist, uncompromising, because russia is to blame for everything, and we are right for everything, and this is true, i have no doubt here, but... in order to agree on something, you have to give in somewhere, compromise is mutual concessions, maybe not with russia, but i apologize, as happened with hungary today, and tomorrow someone will call and say, let's start a softer, softer policy, let's not send wine to the french market, we don't want to, let's not destroy it producers of chinese producers of champagne, french champagne, well in short, this is a huge number of problems, now in general during the war revolution it is easy enough to be uncompromising, and honestly, it is very easy, if you are on the right side of history, then during the war and during the revolution, well, the maidan was obvious to you

for one thing, but this is for something else, this is for yanukovych, and this is against yapozitsia, they went to him for negotiations, but they still, and everything was a compromise, they looked for it, he did not want a compromise, moreover, if it were not for the maidan, they could have come to an agreement, this well, this person, whom not everyone likes now, what is his name, i am not i remember the guy who came out and said, no, we're not going to continue negotiations, parasyuk, parasyuk, yes, the one who was terrible, catastrophic, everyone was bashing him afterwards, but he played an outstanding role, specifically at that second , when he came out, he said, no, there won't be, there won't be a compromise, but if there had been a compromise , yanukovych would have stayed for another year, and i'm afraid that the russian troops were not standing near kyiv, but near lviv, with such a government, azarov with such president yanukovych and so on,

he was here too. efforts of some to compromise, the efforts of one person against a compromise, and he turned out to be right, no matter how it was , no matter how he was treated, no matter how he was criticized, therefore there will be compromises under all conditions, it's kind of, you know, how the radim heel capitalism used to be , and these are the bright spots of socialism, uncompromisingness, this is a compromise for stalin, it is a shame, this is for stalin, stalin was uncompromising. all the rest were compromising, well, until a certain moment, when stalin had german troops near moscow, he also performed miracles, without compromising, yes, but well, we can to say that this is what churchill also apologized for in the first days of the war, when he said no, when the soviet union was attacked, he said: "i will not take back any of my words, i am an anti-soviet person", but the enemy in the form of hitler is worse, yes, more, worse than the enemy in the form of stalin. i will beat hitler with stalin, and by the way, it is also a very interesting moment that

we are also now experiencing a change in these historical clocks in europe, because hitler remains their greatest enemy, and now, just now, russia has become our greatest enemy , stalin, the soviet union, because we are currently at war with them, and this is also such a mismatch in phase absolutely, i listened to two, well , not stupid people today, one is not stupid at all, the other not so much, is this venediktov, and what is his name? i already forgot, in short, the russian, the russians were arguing among themselves about that poor ukrainian from canada, and they were shouting about vafs and so on and so on, and i just saw that two russians, two russian people continued as if nothing allegedly, soviet narratives, but on the other hand, remember that these people, we now we can't help but discuss the vafs, but they never talk about the russian liberation army when it comes to it.

yes, yes, when about general vlasov, who simply surrendered to hitler in this regard by and large, served stalin, then served hitler, but it is customary in intellectual circles to speak with a breath, well, you understand, no, we don’t understand, we don’t understand, this adaptation, whatever it was, he was a general of the army, the soviet army, and stalin loved him and accepted and awarded him, of course, it is not some kind of you know, guys from berezhan, no, this is the elite, the elite, and this person, together with his entourage, but you can’t speak badly about it, these are russian people, well , i also sat down yesterday, i think, let’s take a look, i found the turkistan sss wafen, the armenian , azerbaijani, indian, baltic, the netherlands, belgium, denmark, i'm not talking about norway, france, just some, not a huge number of people who, the troops that were provided to support hitler, and all this must

be understood, and here it turns out, only ukrainians were like that, and there was no collaboration, you were not believe what i will say now, about 15 years ago, at moscow university, one person defended, at that time it was still possible, a dissertation on collaboration in the ussr during the second world war, and we found out that among all the collaborators, members of the union, that is, from estonia there, i don't know, to the far east, russians accounted for 501%, advertising, advertising. antwerp shakhtar on megago in matches against the belgian champion, the miners need to score maximum points. on october 4 at 19:45 cheer for the victory of the miner. turn on the champions league

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in 19 months moscow, wars, he says that the foreign policy of armenia is changing, or is it just a protocol in your opinion, no , of course, this is... exactly what you mean: yes, the policy of armenia is changing, but not only the policy of armenia is changing, it is practically changing all because of recent events days are crossing out the two-hundred-year trend, and armenia is getting out of russia's game, out of two-hundred-year colonial slavery , practically everything is changing, armenia will change all that very quickly, very quickly, will break all the bonds that tied it to the sinking titanic, so that we parties as the european party of armenia, a lot of flying for this pro-western vector, and especially in recent years for rapprochement with ukraine as

our future strategic ally in eastern europe, we predicted, we prepared this event, i was in kyiv in may with concerts - in favor of the armed forces of ukraine, so what was in our political program becomes the state policy of armenia, say. yes, yes, well, here in spain , in granada, pashinyan and aliyev will meet, what will they talk about, and what, in general, is there any point in talking about, is there anything point in talking about? i have to say a few phrases, with all respect, great respect to mrs. portnikova, who is considered in our community, well, probably the most subtle and deep expert, i cannot agree with his last one... said, the point is that nothing is over, and what happened is patriotism, this is the highest point of genocide

, when people leave their families, what happened in arsakh is not an annulment, because the republic of arsakh was created by a national referendum, a decree of someone the pro-moscow chekist, of course, cannot destroy it, we are not banks, not offices to dissolve themselves, this is an illusion, everything is still ahead, we are not at all going to push revanchist toasts now, but this is a deep illusion, which can be entertained by some azerbaijan is in russia, however, armenia is not the country at all and armenia is not the nation that will put up with this scandal in shame, this is not so, i will draw your attention to another thing before answering your question, do you remember which the second country in the history of mankind to self-dissolve? ussr and i will express one

conviction, maybe it will not seem uninteresting to you, why exactly this humiliating form was chosen for the dissolution of the so-called nagorno-karabakh in quotes, unprecedented, it would seem, although it is not, the belovech forest - this is what it is that precedent, a number of probably the most odious russian propagandists, such personalities as sergey markov, maxim shevchenko, mikhail... leontsev, they reminded us armenians many times that the collapse of the ussr began with karabakh, and that we told you, they, don’t forgive this, we will remind you of this, so i got the impression in the last hours and days that they decided to prove with their skittish false symbolism that this is how you destroyed the ussr with karabakh karabakh, which dissolved itself, here we are in the same way we will dissolve karabakh. but this an illusion, and i don’t want to say much about it now, i’ll just remind you that even in the stalinist ussr, karabakh and nakhichevan

of the historical armenian region had autonomy, that is, putin and aleyev went further than their beloved leader, the teacher, tried to dissolve it, that’s it legally and in the legal field of the world, we will now fight for it to be, again...' well , these red lines have been seen and they have been crossed, if the kerosene tyrants think that they have achieved something, we will arrange a terrible life out of their lives a nightmare, i guarantee it, absolutely by legal and legal methods, mr. tigran, here you are saying that yes you even used patriotism, but what is the highest stage of genocide, genocide, well, here is to find some rational and legal grounds for artsakh,

well, i would not say that it is very easy, well, for this it is necessary, the population is there, they are nobody, this is what we see today, maybe they don’t let the press in there, maybe we don’t know everything, i don’t rule it out, but i definitely understand that no one in the world sees that there are any injuries, simply, armenians do not want to live under azerbaijan. to armenia, sitting, sitting, the azerbaijanis are talking, but the handles are here, we are not doing anything here , but we have arrested only one of you, this guy from moscow , all the others, please go, go, find some reason for what - that's outraged, world-historically, allow me to insert, first, karabakh was under a complete blockade for 10 months, when the norm of bread was

200 g, this time, secondly, in the first hours of the occupation, 300 people each, 300, it is in progress 24 hours, if you think that this is not a convincing enough argument, moreover, i do not want to scare your viewers at night now, how exactly they were killed, we will save all this, because the azerbaijanis themselves filmed these murders on video, we will show all this , but this is not the case, please tell me when stalin evicted chechens or crimean tatars, he acted within the framework of the territorial integrity of the ussr, of course, but you, it would not occur to you to justify him by the fact that he acted within the framework of territorial integrity , territorially integrity is never and has never been an indulgence for mass murders for the holodomor, which was organized by azerbaijanis and russians in artsakh, so please do not repeat these clichés

that we were just nice, treated with sweets, asked to leave, this is not true. karabakh is one of the oldest parts of historical armenia, there for a minute there are 4,000 temples and churches and 1,800 fortresses that date back to the 1st century bc, the very first schools, where there is no, no, i am the master, if you have already turned to me, at respect and sympathy to all to the population that is now leaving karabakh, i want to... to use it like that, neither you nor i should rush to them, you know, because it devalues ​​our historical experience, i’m not talking about the friend anymore, i said, i’m already talking, maybe i can, well, let me finish mine thought, for a second, i don't want to tell you

how many signs there are of jewish presence in general in jordan, for example, in other countries, yes, they were there when the ancient armenian state did not exist, neither the current nor the current israel, there was no ancient armenia, but all these signs of the jewish presence were there, but as the state of israel is in a different place, so it turned out that armenia is also in a different place in relation to its ancient kingdoms, eastern armenia is only a small part of the historical space that armenia, with you peoples, they lost the state not in this millennium, in the previous, in this millennium, there was no israeli armenia, this is such a chance to create statehood, so the question always arises, it will be created on the territory of eastern armenia, the current republic of armenia, or there are chances to lose it, and this is the question of granada, who asked, that's about it, that's the question, is there a chance to build

an armenian state in this region, or is there not? i return to your question, of course, armenia will endure, of course, armenia will recover, and we expect that putin you will not be able to tie, tie, armenia into a new war, i will say what i heard from the prime minister , with whom i met 2 days ago, the prime minister - pashinyanyan, said that just the other day , putin called him and asked with a completely innocent look : why you are not entering the army now, karabash, because yours, that is... the thought of a new war does not leave the kremlin dwarf until now, of course, we will not fail now, and we hope that azerbaijan will also show political wisdom and will sign a peace treaty, and then the war will begin competitions are completely in other areas, in