[000:00:00;00] er, the point is that you can still purchase, well, it is not prohibited, because it turns out that er, armenia, uzbekistan, kyrgyzstan, kazakhstan, the emirates, they do not take part in the war, and it turns out that you can through them, but the russians are already buying from them, there it goes from zirmenia through iran, or, and there are still interesting questions about the law. due to the fact that in the same kyrgyzstan and russia, there is as if one territory for electronics standards, that is, it was another nuance with apple, that when they left russia, they moved to kyrgyzstan due to the fact that actually there, everything is the same and can be very easily adapted to continue trading in russia, that

's all. state in this story, what role does it play, because i know that on the contrary, kazakhstan somehow interferes with the fact that these drones enter russia and still does not allow it to be done, you researched this topic, which of the csto countries, you can say , did not join this cohort, to help russia in the supply of drones, supply of spare parts, in order for them to be sent to the front, that is how we do not question they argued that if any of the countries, the csto, renounced this, but look, kazakhstan as a country, as lawmakers, they can object to this, but the fact is that there are many people there, or, for example, ethnic russians with documents, with passports, those who can make the same company in one day and conduct it through themselves, that's how

they get to the front, later. we have a video, and this happens through some private contacts, so you say that the chinese manufacturer ifly sells to some chinese there, who opened the company overnight, then this does the chinese hand over this drone to the russians on their own, is it officially sold to a neighboring country and then smuggled there , or does it officially end up in russia, how is this, how does this chain work, have you studied the transfer mechanism itself, these are official sales, this is an official export from china, no, usually that’s all, everything is quite transparent, there are transport invoices for everything, that is, everything is there, everything is obvious, for example, the schools that we talked about earlier, they also purchased directly there, there was something from above in 2022 1500 transactions, what were they buying, these drones,

what were we talking about? talked about how they are the mechanism of transmission, the mechanism of transmission, yes, i wanted to say for, nominals , that is, these eh, you say, is this person somehow actively participating in this, most likely not, most likely, it just a nominal employee, eh, maybe this person is not aware that he is participating in this, due to the fact that companies are created that operate with the documents of those people to whom these documents are conditionally given, but here on your map, suppliers of countries , which accept participation, there are european countries, i want to talk about it, but let's take a short break, a few minutes and we will return to the conversation, okay.

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thanks to it's you, thanks for the protection, 1.1 is back on the air, the night watch. natalya ostrovs, i'm yevhen plinskyi, we're talking with our guest pavel fialkovskyi about the molfar analysts' investigation into the supply of chinese drones to russia, good night once again. good afternoon, and we stopped right on the map, i want to figure it out, continue our conversation, well, if it is clear that there are countries adjacent to russia, such as tajikistan, kyrgyzstan. uzbekistan, armenia can supply russia with chinese drones, but your investigation also includes germany, italy, turkey and estonia, these are countries that on the one hand are our partners, help us, on the other hand,

we see that they are involved in this scheme, let's ask the editors to show us this map, these are nato member countries, and in fact russia is now promoting a narrative that nato wants to attack russia, but here behind this de-icing comes chipaks, you can twist that country. you came across this information and how is it even possible that the ukrainians accept nato, let's not twist it, let's not twist it , in fact, here we are again leaning on the transport invoices and seeing where from, where, and then again where, that's it and we can see that some companies buy directly from china in a detour, and we can see that they simply have a connection with the sea, and this is their special feature, so that you can get there later

to one of the russian ports and ship it all there , that is, a certain company is being created there, too, in germany, so what a fool , he creates a company for the day, buys these drones in china, and then they already arrive in russia. however, there is a ban, or china itself voluntarily refused, like natalie shala , china refuses to sell drones to the participating countries from september 1, 2023, there is no ban as such, but china is like this, it decided on its own, so here it is to do, although they had previously said that they... uh, there were statements that they were against, their use of their drones in war, in any war, oh, but that, but money doesn't smell, and

until, until, there were cuts, they had statements that they they are reducing supplies to europe by 10 times, but they did not say how much they are reducing supplies to other countries, that is such an unpleasant moment. and yes, then, about the ban, that is, you say that there is actually no such and such a ban either in china or in other countries of the world, whether there is russia, russia is under sanctions, whether is there just such a component as drones? no, it's not included, and in fact, it's difficult, i think for those who impose sanctions, it's not an issue of the day, because you know, dual-use goods, and probably the scheme was not considered,

namely, deliveries to the countries of the european union, that is what it would be super wonderful if there was some committee in europe or in the states that would be engaged in checking the reliability of companies that purchase drones in europe, well and to europe and sometimes they write that sellers of chinese drones are trying to establish parallel imports now, but they are facing the same kazakhstan, which has tightened the import procedure against it. that is, kazakhstan blocks the import of drones into its territory when it realized that such schemes exist, and what exactly it is about, what would it be, how great it would be, if, for example, the following steps were taken in the european union, well no only in an ideal scenario, these are the countries of the csto that we talked about, but there is unpleasant news along with that, because they say that the russians have already managed to purchase

it is enough to introduce enough spare parts, enough drones and already accumulate a certain amount, they will have enough for the coming months for sure, while right now they will deal with this importation for export from china or set up schemes with parallel import, so you are right, and it seems to me , that - as such problems will not arise now, until the international arena does not talk about it, due to... the fact that there are simply a number of ways to bypass all this, but now i want to talk about fall technologies in general, because you are considered autumn investigators, as i mentioned at the beginning that this is intelligence based on open data, it is interesting to understand for the audience, intelligence officers, actually, but how do you work with data and find out what we talked about now, for example,

the investigation in china. by drone and, if we talk about this investigation, then, for example, about schools, and, it all started, er, with a simple, everything, everything always starts with google, where we google, er, er, prosaic, er, about training, training for drone operators, but, it, it, of course, rarely happens, what, what you have everything right in the palm of your hand. well, then we have to go to the same telegram, to some platforms, to the same avito and look in more detail there, and there we find them, and from there we move on, we see what kind of legal entity it is, for example , does this, or where this school is located, what is nearby and we look at the people who work there in those schools, and with whom they are connected, we already start with, as research about companies, we move on to... personal

pieces, that is, we are already researching people and accordingly, we learn a little about their social circles, what they are, who they are, and we sort it out, that’s how it happened with, with alabuga, that same one, this is the factory where they make shahedis now, so actually we just watch a video where the face lights up, and look for . then by the face of these people, and you can find a person by their face just like that on the internet, it’s open, search by open data, or it’s not quite such a tool anymore, it’s still, it’s still a search by open data, so there are tools in free access, such as this, it's just a matter of because you have to make sure that it is the right person, so sorting through piles and piles of garbage can lead you to a dead end, often because this person may not

be there, but, fortunately , it may be, but it turns out, you have powerful it experts who know how to work with certain programs, or is it not necessary to be an it expert, you just need to be able to have some analytical abilities and sit down to search, search, search, if we talk about investigation, on drones, then there is more understanding, eh where... where to see which ones transport invoices, i.e. where, where to look for which legal entities, i.e. understanding the registers first of all, i.e. it cannot be attributed to t, it is more of a jurisdiction, something something, something like that, something legal, but it is, as it were, the second party, it's like when we do some other investigations, for example, we investigate someone for vulnerabilities or, i try to... see what's there in the background of a website,

of some organization, then yes, then you need to have a little it-skills, that is, on the surface of use, it seems ordinary tools and platforms that people know, but in fact you can dive deeper into them and see the information that, well, usually people don't notice, so this is this is just a deep in-depth analysis and you know such a step- by-step study in order to don't... omit any detail, who, where, when was, well, in your investigation, you discovered that there are 10 legal entities, companies, which, precisely in russia. and buy these drones, that is, they are the final recipients of those drones that are bought through all these countries of the laying, let's call them so, so, what are these structures, what are these companies, are they private, are they semi-state, how are they related to these training centers, drone operators, and from what we

published, there is a direct indication in us that od one of those training centers that we have listed, he, he really, he purchases directly, and he, as it were, is the best way to see who he is in this chain, and all the other companies, they are also like that, they are not very are shining, and people there are not, not super involved in all this, that is, there, too, most likely, nominals, that is, for now i probably won't tell you anymore, here's a phrase that stuck out to me, it's what we published, that is, it turns out that you don't publish all the information that you get, where you send it, and what happens to it, and how much you work, yes , we seem to have come to the key point, that is, you know that certain information can harm a certain country

and it is better to convey it. yes, first of all, we have this information, in order to use this information to the maximum against the enemy, the enemy must learn about it in the last instance or already after using this information, that is, we publish it already when, when everyone who needed it, who needed certain structures of different countries or our structures , let's say, ours and allied ones, that is, you conduct this public intelligence in public sources, i mean, collect information, then pass it on to the special services there, which are engaged in intelligence, counterintelligence there, you said , yes, well, i, well, i do i am thinking that the country is in

a state of war, and only later, based on the results of how this information will be unofficially processed by our special services, do you have the opportunity to make some part of the information public? yes, even if there is nothing to add, you have laid out everything super on the shelves, that’s about it, that is, in simple words, you are public intelligence, well, how do journalists work, yes, a journalist finds information, immediately puts it in the public space, and then, sometimes there are situations when not everyone is very happy there government bodies, that this information became... public, you work on the contrary, you search, take non-public steps, then something, publish something, yes, but there were stories when you found certain information and passed it on to journalists, the times, new york times , somewhere else, and they published from themselves, as

if they found out, found out about the war in ukraine, and it worked on a more global level, because when you publish in ukraine, it's one thing, but when the whole world learns about it. the other, yes, this, this happened many, many times, there in our country from above, one and a half of such publications appear in a year, then, this, this, this is what we do, and in principle, they do not hide that it was molfar who provided them with this data, but from the last one, for example, in the times, there was an article about, the new york times, sorry, there was an article about uh , propaganda... in games, where we investigated the issue of how propaganda, russian propaganda, by implication, enters the game business and is already trying to influence children in some way from there, well, these same chat

roulettes, or something else, no, no, here we are talking about some kind of minecraft or roblox, where there is an opportunity in the game to create a community and, or... you can rebuild some kind of conditional red square and spend there, as it is called, that they walk with portraits, yes, yes, yes, i just forgot how they are called, and, that is, they, they gather, they gather on the server and conduct this march, and then, then we analyzed these questions, where in which games it is, how it is covered. and who is behind this is the last one, i have never heard of such a thing, even if you don't know the game yet, well, for now, you will soon play, i hope not. and then the sbu will come with me later, if i play such games, if you conduct an immortal regiment, yes, and i also want to ask about your

investigation about the factory in valabuz for the production of shaheids, everyone already knows that it is being built in russia, maybe the factory for the production of shaheds has already been built, it is located in alabuz, and it turns out that your analysts discovered this information, and from the video that they published, in principle, it became clear that, where, how and who, that is, what i said, by po faces, how this, like, kind of factory looks like from the inside, and where these photos were lit before, show me, everything was clear from the video, how large-scale this factory is, how it works, tell me everything, because i haven’t seen, for example, a video the ones you are talking about now... but yes, because i think we didn’t even make material from it, it somehow just came out of our hands and that’s all,

how far this factory for the production of shaheds has grown now, because they dream well, they have good plans there, they plan to produce 5 or 600 by the 25th year, shahedov, but now, there for literally. months, they have already done it, i don't want to, i don't want to, i don't remember the exact numbers, but i know that they are a little behind the schedule, about 300 shaheds behind, that's basically the capacities, and we also published , those workers that we found, i found them on your resource , yes, there are a large number of people who work there, well , young people, most of them are young people, because of the fact that you understand what this means communication

with it technologies, then and there they will recruit the youth, who plus or minus are already oriented in this, yes, yes, you are right, that there are mostly young people, and all of them somehow have a connection to, mines, murder, yes, and iran is somehow involved in this? do representatives of iran come there to the factories, did they train them before that, and most likely they go to - for training, we did not find traces of iranians coming, but there is an understanding that these russians, they go to as an internship can be called how much your community of usind investigators has grown during the war because we we constantly hear about investigative tools, whether your organization is expanding, yes, your community, molfar

, are there other groups of people who are engaged in similar work, and everyone, everyone works somewhere there in their own direction, for mayfar, i can say that yes, it has been growing like a community since the beginning of a full-scale one, so... it has probably doubled , or even in 2.5 there, if you measure by some e pi under subscribers, because this is actually the core communities, then out of the conditional seven, now we have about 25,000 people who accept participation in the search for information, which, as they say, they do not accept directly, but we form volunteers from them, because there are interested people from them. and they participate in this, we have a volunteer direction, and

when people help us look for, for example, propagandists, now what do volunteers do, this is, we are looking for propagandists all over the world, which, by implication, is clear that i mean russian propagandists, because in every country there is some individual who will sympathize, you collect this information like this, and that's the point volunteers help us, and by the way, we have several lists of such lists, we have lists of traitors from the kherson region, traitors from zaporizhzhia, and they are already published on the website, so thank you very much for an interesting conversation , we are waiting for your new investigations, new analytics, on your resource, success, behind these shadows there is a real face, and

autumn and analysts know these faces and lists. the molfar community had a night guard visiting us. natali ostrovs, i'm evganplinsky. see you on the air, friends. good night. chevrons approaching victory. they fought for us, they gave their lives so that we could continue to live freely. october 1st, 9:00 a.m., is the time when all ukraine will stop, all

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, wheat is our gold, why and to what extent... the cost of bread, vegetables and meat, and how much will the winter stock cost if we make it now? russian invaders are trying to attack ukrainian soldiers in five directions, lymanskyi, avdiivskyi, marinskyi, shakhtarskyi, and zaporizhskyi, and are failing, in particular, in zaporizhia, the enemy tried to restore lost positions near the red, in lymanskyi, they attacked our soldiers in the area of ​​belogorivka, luhansk region, and came to a standstill, so it is given in the summary of the general staff. in the avdiyivka direction , the russians tried to regain their lost position in the districts south of avdiyivka itself, but there was little success there, in addition, our defenders successfully repelled the enemy attack in nevelelsky district, donetsk region. the general staff added that the enemy is trying in vain to advance near marinka in the donetsk region, during the day he made six failed attempts to dislodge the defenders of ukraine

from their positions, and the occupiers are resorting to provocation . so they say in the ukrainian air intelligence, the russians tried to break through with tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, but the ukrainian defenders violated their plans, as a result after an unsuccessful attack, 10 enemy tanks and bmps turned into brukht, the general staff reminds that the counteroffensive of the armed forces continues, ukrainian soldiers are moving forward in the melitopol and bakhmut directions, destroying the aggressor and liberating the temporarily captured lands. well , tsn correspondent ivan petrychak will now tell more about the situation on the donetsk part of the front. good morning, it's early morning. and these are new white frets for muscovites. then on and with army humor, the shock unit of the bpp of the 57th brigade is going