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today, in our military program, we will talk about how to protect our people from russian terror, because russia continues to use cruise missiles and these shahed strikes on our cities and villages and this large-scale terror causes the death of our citizens, the destruction of houses, fires, creates danger from explosive components and all this in our rear behind the front line. against the background of these challenges... ukraine is currently forming a new concept of security, from border protection to new living conditions of territorial communities, and this is quite such a complex process that requires a lively dialogue, an exchange of opinions between specialized specialists and community leaders, in order to develop effective models and forms of countermeasures the russian threat. that's the kind of exchange opinions and best practices will take place on october 4 and 5 in kyiv, where the exhibition company

euroindex, as well as the league of defense enterprises of ukraine and the association of sappers of ukraine will hold an event called security 2.0, where they will present. modern security technologies to protect and preserve the full functioning of all sectors of the economy, the event is supported by the miniconics of the state emergency service of ukraine, the security service of ukraine, the all-ukrainian association of united territorial communities and a number of foreign partners, it will be precisely on october 4 and 5 in kyiv. and now in our program there will be an opportunity to talk with officials of ministries, heads of production. enterprises and territorial communities to preliminarily discuss some directions and projects that can strengthen ukraine's capabilities in countering the threats that our enemy is currently producing. my name is serhii sgurets, i am the director of the information consulting company defense express, which

, together with the espresso channel, strives to highlight the most relevant trends in the field of security and defense of our country. and now oleksandr korinnyi is joining us, he is the head of the all-ukrainian association on territorial communities. mr. oleksandr, i am glad to welcome and welcome you, to see and hear you on the air of the channel. good day, mutual, glad to see you. let's go, let's try to go through all those important directions that actually form such a safe environment in which our territorial communities should exist, and let's start with the first direction, which is precisely the creation of protective structures, bomb shelters, which our people go to or in some way be safe from enemy attacks. what is the current situation with protective structures, in terms of their quantity and quality, in accordance with the needs that, well, our communities have. well, it is worth saying, first of all, that

today we have two most urgent things in the state, the first is the achievement of our victory, the second is the safety of our people, as you absolutely know. and today we all have to work on it together, this is not a matter of the state or communities, it is a common issue for all of us, unfortunately, we were not fully ready for a full-scale discussion on this issue invasion, today, we have practically no safe territory on the territory of ukraine, so we have communities that are occupied, we have communities that are depopulated, near the front, those communities that are in the body, but it can fly today... to every populated place and even to the border with romania , so today we have to make maximum efforts so that people have the opportunity to be protected, and for this , our association, and our partners, colleagues from the state emergency service, and international projects, donors,

are making maximum efforts, we are training heads and representatives of local authorities, how should be like to do this, we help through projects, to repair. to build, make new shelters, today first of all, this is a very important issue, and it is absolutely timely , the construction of new shelters for the students of our educational institutions, in a word, today there should be an elementary thing in the same bomb shelter, this, fresh air, full safety, drinking water, if there is an opportunity to do the internet and other things, then it is very good, and we have to understand that our neighbor will not go anywhere, and this is a question both today and tomorrow, and this is a question for the future, because well, i

i understand that in big cities, maybe in the capital or in kharkiv, there is an opportunity to go down to the subway somewhere, in small communities there is no such opportunity, and we have to constantly work on this, but there are some general indicators regarding the satisfaction of needs in protective structures of the civilian population there, in accordance with the needs of children in the educational process, to what extent do the current sports that exist satisfy the needs that exist according to the number of our population, and how much, well, i analyze for myself and others by the way, if there are many schools, educational institutions in the communities , where... a mixed education system is used, then these are the first, the first sign that it is not possible to hide all the students of these institutions in those shelters that meet all the norms, so rather than

everything, all over ukraine there are still not enough of these institutions and we have to work on this, and today, and the special subvention provided for next year in the budget and this year, which is provided for training schools, is very... very relevant and i am very i hope that to by the end of the year, we will certify and launch a lot of such shelters in our communities, and they will be really safe, comfortable and convenient and will help a lot. share of that contingent of students who can study offline, because it is not only about safety, here it is also about the quality of education and everything, we must move to ensure that all institutions can have 100% of students of their education seekers, but for this time and resources are still needed. mr. oleksandr, when you talk about a resource, we are talking about a state resource, are there others? options... opportunities, funds to expand the number of high-quality bomb shelters in order to

be able to safely wait out these enemy attacks. i think that when, for example, there is a very complex discussion in the country about the military pdf, then at the level of support, military formations, drones, there are medical items, other things that are necessary for the life of victory, the issue of building bomb shelters, coverings where they can save the life of our citizens in more or less relatively peaceful territories is also clearly important, therefore it is possible shelters can be one of the directions of application of these funds, but if we take my personal point of view frankly , then state funds, funds of our international partners, and funds of local self-government bodies should be directed here, in a word, if we are talking about human life, then it seems to me that everyone should work as much as possible and in the maximum possible volume,

let's say this, because there is actually still a lot of work, most of those institutions that we conventionally consider today to be shelters, bomb shelters, that is more difficult basements, which also need to be worked on very seriously, i saw several of your such clear comments about the fact that the personal income tax is going to be taken from the communities from the military, and you speak harshly about the fact that, in fact, these money should remain in the communities, because it really ensures their effective use, in which directions can these funds be used now in order to strengthen the protection of the communities themselves against various external risks, what mechanisms the use of these funds from the personal income tax from the military, well, look, a draft law was introduced in the parliament in 1959 on the possibility of spending

funds and the acquisition by communities of things intended for the military and then transferring them to them, because to be honest, today there is no legislative basis , and law enforcement and inspection bodies always have questions for the communities that purchased, for example, drones and handed them over, which is why this project was introduced, but then i understand that due to the fact that there was another initiative... this pdf in general withdraw, this draft law has not been adopted to date. our proposal, the position is this: we accept 95.59, we make it possible to legally buy these things, and the resolution 590 , which regulates the treasury service, for example, we prohibit those things that are not inherent in today's wartime, er, maybe that and building there stadiums, there are skate parks or something else, the roads that were built there, which are not on a rolling basis, yes, there may be funds, but, there may be funds, but, but these funds must necessarily go through the authorities

of local self-government, because we are often contacted by the military, residents of our communities often contact us and ask for help, today there is a lack of funds in the budget, this is primarily the inability of the communities to help their mobilized boys, and this is despair from our boys to local government bodies. i consider this to be a negative consequence, another issue, we must also foresee the impossibility of using funds for other directions, and for this i consider the cabinet of ministers to be sufficient with resolution 590, another issue that concerns specifically, not the budget and subfund, but its distribution, it is more about, let's say, the collection of this tax, then it is a matter of not all communities having this tax, and therefore it may be worth it. for this tax to be distributed to all territories from where the guys are mobilized, that is, to actually go after each military

man, i don't know if the tax authorities have the opportunity to do it now, but this is one of the solution options, when all communities would distribute this tax throughout the territory and would have the opportunity to help their boys, but this subject of a very serious discussion and we have time until january 1 to discuss it, and i think that these funds should serve, defense capability, support of our military units, but should remain in the communities, mr. alexander, thank you very much for these explanations, i hope that we will really be heard and these funds will really remain in communities, i hope that your all-ukrainian association will provide such optimal approaches for communities to develop and have various projects related to protection, thank you for including, our viewers let me remind you that oleksandr korinnyi, head of the all-ukrainian association of united territorial communities of ukraine, was on the air.

and when we actually talk about the number of bomb shelters, in fact, according to statistical data, the indicators are such that we do not have a sufficient number of protected structures for the entire population, and there are also restrictions on bomb shelters in schools, according to certain statistical data, if we will see them now, it means that with protective structures we can actually provide protection for approximately 46% of the population, and when we if we talk about the educational process, about schools, about kindergartens and so on, then we are talking about slightly higher indicators, but also not quite enough, in fact we are talking about the fact that the protective clothing of civil protection in educational institutions allows to provide shelter for about 57% of participants

educational process, and that is why our previous guest was talking about the need to create... such protective structures that should be sufficient to meet modern needs, starting from wi-fi and ending with fresh air and water and other things that allowed to stay there for a certain time. and then viktor vitovetskyi joins us, he is the director of the department of organization of civil protection measures of the state emergency service of ukraine. mr. viktor, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. good day. in view of your position , as i understand, you have a direction related to somehow ensuring the integration of certain voluntary processes of community capacity building with those dsns bodies that perform firefighting tasks in various directions, and i would like

at the beginning, a small touch, what is the current situation with the ability of the state emergency service, well, to fight fires quickly, because i saw the information that there are directions where the fire engines of the state emergency service are forced to spend an hour or so there to get to certain villages where there may be such , well, dangerous events are related to fires, well, i will say that the state emergency service provides response throughout the territory of ukraine, of course, but there are cases when the response time really exceeds the standard, is much more than 20 minutes. as a rule, this is inherent rural areas, therefore one of the priorities, and in particular of the state emergency service, is the development and assistance in the creation of local and volunteer fire protection units , which are, in principle , our first assistants, and where our unit, the unit of the state emergency service is far from the scene, as

a rule, our volunteer colleagues arrive first and they can...' some initial priority work before the arrival of the main forces, the forces of the dssms. and when we talk about these volunteer units, what exactly are we talking about, when we talk in terms of technical equipment, numbers, powers, opportunities, what kind of structure is it in general, how is it integrated, well, into the life of our communities, on certain examples? i can say that it is integrated by law and recently. thanks to the joint efforts of the ministry of internal affairs, the ministry of internal affairs, as well as the parliamentary corps of the verkhovna rada, it was possible to make changes to a number of laws, and by the way, this work continues, but those changes made it possible to regulate the role, functions, and powers of volunteers in more detail,

volunteers are included in the system response of the state emergency service, by including them in engagement plans, so called forces and means, this allows the dispatcher of the state emergency service to involve our colleagues to perform certain tasks related to fire extinguishing, liquidation of the consequences of other emergency situations. now we can talk about the presence of more than a thousand units of local and voluntary fire protection, and almost all of them are included in the plans to attract forces and resources and attract them. to putting out fires, including fires, and there is also another important segment, which is conducting explanatory work with the population on the territory of those communities where they were created. in particular, i will say. well, she is a number a lot will be said, for example, in the 22nd year, from the beginning of the invasion, the armed aggressor, the mentioned units were involved more than 11,000

times for departures and liquidation of the consequences of emergency situations, that is, we can imagine the assistance to the state and the state emergency service, in particular, which our fellow volunteers provide, and here are these volunteer structures , what they are provided with, how many people there are usually in this or that community, to talk about the fact that such a volunteer unit has really been created, which can really effectively perform the task, when there really is a fire, what is the typical picture of such a volunteer unit? a typical picture is as follows: on average, somewhere around 10 volunteers, we would recommend in order to speak... about a combat-ready, effective unit. along with this, different situations, absolutely, some communities have a unit in which there are 47,

for example, volunteers, some where there are three or four, but if these three or four volunteers are very active, let's say so , and are focused on the result, and they live by it, then eh, such units are also quite effective, eh, therefore... there are certain recommendations, but the situations in the state are different, it affects directly, or rather, it depends directly on which community, how cohesive society is in this community, but i want to say that where such subdivisions are created, one can observe how much society gathers around these subdivisions around the tasks they perform, and this greatly contributes to such unity, precisely in the context and precisely on the territory of individual communities, and by the way, primarily about the creation of such divisions,

or when there is an active community that solves the current problems there well, then there are such volunteer fire departments, if the community is more sluggish there, then surely it is quite difficult to achieve consolidation, the formation of such fire departments, or some examples of the most such, well, such cool ... volunteer fire brigades that have everything, including the most modern machines there, good training and there, well, and really cope with such challenges that there, well, sometimes our enemy brings us, you are definitely right, it all depends from the people in the community, because the people, well, this is the main thing, this is the basis on which the unit is built in principle, now i will deviate a little from the topic, now the state... by making changes again in the legislation provides certain opportunities to the communities to create subdivisions, er, i am talking about the fact that now the state security service, in particular, has the right to transfer the equipment

that we do not use now from the state to the ownership of the communities, and this is ongoing now, much more than 100 pieces of equipment have already been transferred, they are all transferred to communities for the needs of voluntary and local units, and currently, several hundred more sets of documents for such equipment, which were released as a result of the technical re-equipment of our units, both at the expense of state purchases and at the expense of unconditional humanitarian aid, which were very powerfully provided to us by our international colleagues, partners and inter-governmental and non-governmental international organizations, therefore definitely. there are different subdivisions, i honestly would not like to single out someone so separately, well, if you insist, then i would name, for example,

volunteer fire brigade unit in dertsyn settlement, transcarpathian region, there are about 45 people on the register as volunteers and several units of various equipment for appropriate response to emergency situations and events, such a community is very powerful, therefore, according to this principle, many others oblasts, cherkasy, rivne, kirovohrad, almost, almost all oblasts have, to give an example of positive experience in this regard. and you mentioned foreign aid, i would like you to tell about it in more detail, and about overseas experiences, do other countries have volunteer fire brigades like them ... are they funded, how do they exist, is there anything we should be building on, are there any things that are unique to our country? well, of course, just studying

abroad. experience and served as the reason why we prioritize the development of this direction in our country. in particular, the number of volunteers, for example, in the republic of poland is over 6,000 people, that is, it is a very large community of volunteers, in germany it is even more, there are more than 2,000 million persons i can say that the response in these two countries, at least in european countries. in principle, it is carried out at the expense of voluntary fire protection, and the units are state-owned, corresponding , they function in a very limited format and exclusively as auxiliary forces, on the contrary, and in our country , the units of the state emergency service are still definitely the basis, but we are developing a community of volunteers in order to so that we can provide a joint, consolidated response in

the state, and of course our international... partners provide a lot of help directly to volunteers, several projects are implemented, in particular, it is possible to note among the partners that provide such powerful and systematic assistance, this is the usaid hoverla project, this is the international solidarity fund of the republic of poland, this is the un development program in ukraine, which means the eastern europe fund, others, others donors who provide help, i apologize if i did not mention anyone, but i named the main ones, this is a systematic work that has been going on for years, it consists both in training our volunteers and in providing them with ee, that is, with clothes combat, equipment and fire-fighting equipment, there are such elements , in fact, right now it is already underway, in the republic of poland, for example

, the training of the fourth group of volunteers of 15 people, three such groups have already learned from different regions of ukraine, and this work is ongoing, and i i hope that our international partners see progress, at least we see it, this is reflected in the increase in the number of such units, even in the conditions of armed aggression, i want to give another example, kherson oblast, a territory that was deoccupied, that is, you know, ' the region was here captured there, er, everything was either looted, or smashed, bombed. to date, more than 10 units of local and voluntary fire protection have been established in this region, which means that people understand the importance of timely response to emergency situations. mr. viktor, thank you very much for joining our broadcast, i hope that after the event in kyiv we will receive to...

information, an additional push for such voluntary associations to be created in ukraine, i will remind our viewers that it was viktor vytovetskyi, director of the department of organization of civil protection measures of the state emergency service. and then we will talk about our manufacturers, who can provide the needs of our communities in modern equipment for various purposes, but this block will be after the information break, where we will demonstrate advertising. areas that our citizens also need. museum territory of terror. the jewish ghetto of lviv was transformed by the soviet occupiers into a prison, with which the path led to the holag.

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