[000:00:00;00] i trust mr. putin very much, and putin entrusted certain very essential tasks to mr. prigozhin, now there is no such person, no one has passed him, and he is a person unknown to putin himself, that is, he will only have a military role there in order to. all those people who have at least some value there for the military, so that they are integrated into the ministry of defense, and that's all, that's exactly what he will do, thank you, mr. ilya, for your participation in the program, it was ilya ponomav, a former deputy friends of the state duma of the russian federation, we are working live

tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, please take part in our vote, today we ask you this, do you support the legalization of weapons in ukraine, yes, no, or your option, please write in the comments under this video, this is important for us to know, because the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy danilov, said that having such an obsessive neighbor who is next to us , meaning russia, every family must. must have a machine gun at home. next, we have sofia fedina, people's deputy of ukraine. mrs. sofia, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. good evening, mr. serhiy, i am also glad to be on the air. ms. sofia, do you think it is necessary to legalize weapons in ukraine, taking into account the constant threat from russia, because this obnoxious neighbor will be with us for a long time and

obviously we need to create some kind of legislation. a base that would allow ukrainians to defend themselves, and we know, as in the early days, the big one invasion, exactly distributed ak in kyiv and other cities, how did they save the cities from the approach of the russian occupiers? well, in fact, the discussion about the legalization of weapons, or how it sounds in a more radical such social activist environment, in particular in view of the previously submitted bill on self-defense and possession of firearms... weapons, has not been in the ukrainian discourse for a long time, and in fact, a very long time period of time, this discussion was clearly not in favor of gun owners, those people who have the opportunity to use them at one point or another, unfortunately, in favor of those who own weapons, they also did not play several cases, which were very widely discussed in society, regarding policemen who had to shoot in view of their own self-defense, but as a result

, these policemen were tried, and not the attackers, who posed a threat to their lives. unfortunately, in the first reading , the draft law was passed only one day, even less, before the start of a full-scale invasion, and since then the law enforcement committee has been working on it, working on it, working on it so much that until now it is not carried anywhere. i think that now it is not necessary to legalize, but to create some kind of streamlined, transparent system, because we... now, not only because of a mad neighbor , we should have means of self-defense, but we should also legalize all those weapons, which is already in the hands of people, not only the one that was distributed, but the one that was won as a trophy , after all, military personnel, even veterans who return from the combat zone, it is not normal for them to be without means of self-defense,

without means of protection, therefore should be now an open discussion and a transparent mechanism without... let's say, without moments for bribery, without moments for corruption and without moments that strengthen, let's say, the corruption component, in issuing permits, in issuing various certificates, because even here i remember i remember how we were processed, when weapons were handed out on the first day, it was all done manually on pieces of paper, and then these weapons were searched for everywhere, because we all handed these weapons to the territorial defense fighters, what danilov now says that everyone should have a machine gun... well, this one the statement is personally perceived by me as the same as when he said that he changed into a black uniform, it should mean that there will be a war. in fact, this is some kind of, you know, pathetic nonsense, and the said terry propagandist in an interview, and this should not be said, but it should be specifically formalized, but the second point of this discussion about weapons, which has begun, is that ukraine finally has to produce weapons in large

quantities, and here it is not about having, but about those means, in particular missile programs, which ukraine already produced in the 19th and 20th years, and now they need to be launched again so that we have something to defend the whole country, well, the same danilo already... predicted that there will be missiles that will fly 2000 km, well, it was also probably very pathetically said that they would fly there to the urals mountains and to siberia , but on the other hand, we know that the military-industrial complex of ukraine has always been strong, well , at least there a dozen years ago, because we had enterprises that produced and implemented missile programs, and there were enough armories... powerful, of course, in the present conditions, obviously, as we speak about the future of ukraine and about the present, of ukraine, then obviously, and about defense and security, then obviously we have to talk about our own

strong defense-industrial complex, they have already started to do something, again, the same danilov says that they started to produce missiles , but the russians started shelling, they took it out of ukraine , do you or do you at all understand whether someone is working on it now or not , is it a secret, is it not a secret, is it known to the people's deputies of ukraine, who usually have more access to information, than ordinary citizens. and look, in fact, i probably don’t have the right to say everything in public, but i will just outline the situation, how it was, how it has become and what we have at this stage, it was that until the 19th year, from the 14th, starting ukraine launched a whole series of missile... programs, and as of the 19th year, these missile programs were already ready to be registered, adopted and used as such, among one of the most successful projects, it was already known to all ukrainians, neptune, which until things

months before he took aim at the cruiser moscow, a total discrediting campaign was launched that neptune does not weigh anything, nothing will work , it will not get anywhere and so on, and bohdana, who was saving sharp snakes, was ordered to be destroyed on the first day of a full-scale invasion under the pretext that god forbid it will fall into the hands of the enemy, but to use it, protect it, redeploy it, for some reason there is no information about it , and we also had the willow, we produced a good number of battleships, corsairs, but they were produced for the foreign market. in the 19th year all the programs were stopped, why were they stopped, well, from what i understand, this is my main opinion and this is an objective reality, because these were projects of the poroshenko era, and zelsky was very annoyed by everything that had anything to do with poroshenko , by the way, tomos is just as annoying to him just because of that, but now we are talking about something else, at the beginning of the invasion, the first

thing that was discussed was that there should be a restart of the military-industrial complex, i have been talking about it for more than a year and a half at all committees, at all meetings, at speeches with tribunes, because on the one hand, it is a weapon for us, for our use. on the other hand, the military-industrial complex is the basis of the economy of the belligerent state, as well as the first six months of the full-scale invasion , in particular david rahamia, and then all the servants after him, very nicely told us that we cannot produce anything, because there will be more trouble aiming at everything, but not so long ago i had a conversation with diplomats who testified that they had more than once offered to build... enterprises under the ukrainian border will be able to produce certain elements for weapons, certain cartridges and shots, but there it was said that ukraine should also be the country that invests its resources , both financial and knowledge, and possibly labor,

in order to build such enterprises , because it is not necessary for specific countries to fully own such an armed enterprise, ukraine refused, which was very, very shocking, i know about several... projects, although on the other hand there was already information that several joint projects were still launched . ukroboronprom also reports that they have started to produce various ammunition, but the truth is that when it came to, for example, drones, in particular those that can carry warheads, it turns out that the ministry of defense did not order them at all, although funds were allocated for this, right now, in particular, a tax they are trying to completely take away the income of individuals from the military pdf. from the local budgets to be completely taken into the central budget and distributed specifically for the launch of the military-industrial complex, and i apologize to the boys and girls in power, what did you

think before, on the one hand, and on the other on the other hand, by removing the pddfo from the places, you completely disarm, you take away the resource from the military units, which in fact receive active, specific funding, by the way, with the same ammunition, the same defenses for... protection, because they are financed by territorial communities, and here we are you know, it's a double-edged sword, on the one hand, we need to start the industrial complex, but i'm not sure that it should be done under the pdf, the industrial complex can be started at the expense of investments, at the expense of state guarantees, at the expense of state investments, after all, we have there are a lot of interested structures abroad in ukrainian production, weapons and the very means of delivering these or other shots, because here is even such an example, the poseidons that the poroshenko foundation and the community affairs order abroad, but this is a joint ukrainian development, which has already been tested here in ukraine.

they are in great demand on the international market , and for ukraine, they must now be taken directly from the warehouses so that they can be handed over to our military, this is also true of any of our other, in particular , missile programs, it is also true of our anti-tank weapons and so on, we we can make money from it, well, but we need to do it in a normal way and not stealing money from it all, mrs. sofia, just in the last few days, the defense of france and great britain have visited kyiv , and the secretary general of nato was there, and a week ago, zelenskyi spoke with the americans , with president joseph biden, are talking about greater cooperation in the military sphere and regarding the production, including weapons. at the same time, against this background, a question arises, not only about the future, about cooperation, military cooperation, but about our future in european union. today, the new ambassador

of the european union to ukraine, kateryna maternova, said that if the current pace of reforms in ukraine is maintained, it is quite likely that the country will become a member of the eu in 2030 . at the same time, the prime minister of ukraine denys shmyl says that ukraine expects full membership in the eu within two years, depending on your feelings. what is the real term of our accession to the european union, whether it is as far as kateryna maternova's, or as close as denis shmigal? look, it all very, very much depends on how ukraine will act, how the ukrainian parliament and the ukrainian government will act in general, because in fact, denys shmeijgel, ms. stefanishyna, a bunch of our government officials.

all this year they have been saying directly contradictory phrases, statements about whether we have fulfilled the seven points, whether we have not fulfilled the seven points and where we are going, as a result, it turned out that they had to be urgently fulfilled at the last moment, because nothing was actually done in time , even seven points, if now we have roughly the plan of action is that somewhere on october 24, ukraine's report on the implementation of these seven points will be considered, are we ready or not ? on october 28, the european council will meet, and already on december 14-15 there will be a meeting of the european council at the level of heads of state or government, well the truth may also be at the level of the heads of the ministry of foreign affairs, well, how will it turn out for them there, who will directly decide whether ukraine is ready for negotiations on joining the european union, and further, after that we already have those 33 or 34

points that we have step by step above all, this is about the harmonization of legislation and the negotiating points in each specific area, which are very difficult, very difficult, very often disadvantageous for ukraine, and here it will be necessary to protect its national interests, and depending on how these negotiations go, then we can see the trend, what will happen, some countries have been doing this for more than 10 years, and poland, and lithuania, and other baltic countries, they did not just conduct all these negotiations, of course, now they are ready to provide us with all possible tips and help and that's all the rest, but ukraine must have hundreds, if not thousands , of negotiators who will deal with each of their specific topics, and the peculiarity of all negotiations on each of the points is that you will not close your eyes here, you will not close your eyes here. you will say that we have accepted, you have misunderstood, here we are talking about the fact that we will have to defend our position very, very concretely on each point and our position on... the national interest and it will not be possible to fool around here, and we

will have to make difficult decisions, often unpopular, for example, what will they be in ukraine, but it will have to be done as such, unfortunately, our government is more prone to such, you know, theatrical productions, which our people buy into, but the majority of european bureaucrats do not buy into it, and it will depend on that , how fast we will advance, it is possible to speed up, it is possible to do it efficiently. but for this you need experience, for this you need an understanding of what is happening, you need professionals, in each specific field, and diplomats, in particular, and not the president's office, to deal with it, well and most importantly, what to do with... some of our neighbors who hint that ukraine has no place in the european union, viktor orbán, prime minister of hungary said that the eu will have to answer very long and difficult questions until will come to a point where a decision can be made, even about the start of negotiations, he said in an interview

with state radio, we cannot avoid the question, when we have negotiations in brussels in the fall about the future of ukraine, whether we can actually seriously consider membership for of ukraine, to start negotiations on accession with a country that is in a state of war. we don't know how big the territory of this country is, because the war is still going on, we don't know how big its population is, because they are running to accept the country into the eu without knowing its parameters, it would be unprecedented, and the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine has already responded to orban's provocative statement, the spokesperson of the department oleg nykulenko wrote on social networks, we positively note that the prime minister of hungary is worried about ukraine's accession to the european union, we inform that ukraine did not change its territories within internationally recognized borders, that any step of ukraine, be it to the european union or to nato, will surely find orbans, well, i don't know, forgive me what i

will say in the plural, but those people who obviously, obviously don't want to see us even in nato, they don't want to see us even in the european union, and they have some kind of interest. in cooperation with the same putin, well , orban has business with the russians, in what way can we submit this orbanization of the european union and nato? well, i sure do i will start by saying that i really liked the answer of our mfa, only from myself i would add one more phrase that, well, since our borders did not change, one can ask whether orban is trying to tear off the shakavalok of ours in the context of transcarpathia, in order to put under the question of the integrity of ukraine as such, because the way they tried to create the ministry of transcarpathian affairs a few years ago, which was already a complete encroachment on the territorial integrity of ukraine, well, it cannot withstand any criticism. second, orban is a peculiar, peculiar zhernovsky in

the european union, but he positions those questions that radical or left or right circles in different countries may ask us. and here we are now facing the danger that the european union, especially our partner states, they have election processes, and depending on how the situation in their countries will develop, depending on how the support for ukraine as such will develop. what is extremely important for us now is that ukraine at the level of, well, first fulfills its homework all those requirements that exist in the european union , because orbán, he is also a very ambiguous figure... and in europe , hungary has been repeatedly officially warned about certain issues, and even the question of reducing their funding within the general budget was raised of the european union, that is, orban - this is not a parable in uyazitsi and it is not a hundred percent bloc

, there is a way to influence it, but what is the problem, and now my colleagues were on a visit to lithuania, so the lithuanian parliamentarians raised the question, why... our parliamentarians are not in the parliaments of other countries of the world, in particular european countries, in particular the united states of america, why our parliamentarians are not engaged in parliamentary diplomacy, i believe that next to the fact that we have a rather toothless ministry of foreign affairs, which is often replaced by an office by the president and his unofficial advisers, who , in addition, do not even declare themselves, but the fact that now there is essentially no parliamentary diplomacy, it has been reduced to zero, allegedly under the pretext. tishchenko and other deputies traveled to resorts there, in fact, this is an office president stefanchuk completely blocked the opportunity for deputies to travel and work, even for those who work very effectively in the international arena, so that the only beneficiary of any success in the negotiations regarding the european union and nato was president zelenskyi and

persons close to him, but in fact from ukraine is critically losing this, and the parliamentarians would now have between meetings. to work in the international arena, to interpret existing trends, to interpret draft laws, to interpret news that arise because, for example, now hungary and , unfortunately, it is supported by romania in some places, disperse the question that the rights of national minorities are being violated in ukraine, and by the way, we will have more on this in hungary problems, they say that the hungarian language is not studied here in schools, that hungarian-speaking ukrainians are oppressed. and so on, although in reality the situation is absolutely repulsive, hungary is trying to deprive hungarian-speakers, or hungarians by nationality of citizens of ukraine, of being fully valued...' citizens of ukraine and to have a basic knowledge of the ukrainian language in order to conduct business here, pay taxes, work in state authorities, and so on, but this must be

explained very well, there are nuances here, the lack of parliamentary diplomacy, by the way , is now also harmful in that what kind of situation have we now obtained with our veteran in canada, who is now being harassed by people who are not oriented at all in the history of ukraine, nor in what is happening, but the ukrainian structures in cannes. in most cases it is denied, as if in fact the ukrainian veteran is a criminal, although he is the one who fought against bolshevism for the ukrainian state, and he passed all possible checks in great britain and two in canada, and accordingly there are no crimes against him as such recorded, and now because of him the whole of ukraine is being bullied, and now it seems to me that that instead of silly discussions, as kornienko said, possible transitions to the presidential form of government. with a strong president, on the contrary, we would have to launch parliamentary diplomacy, public diplomacy, diplomacy of historians,

professionals around the world as much as possible, in order to defend the positions of ukraine and further unite our international partners, well, ms. sofya, you mentioned this story with our veteran of the sss halychyna division, who lived in canada, by the way, he did not live in ukraine after the second world war, because he got into to great britain, then emigrated to canada, and if, well, the question is quite logical, if both the british and canadians had no complaints against this veteran, who is called anatoly hunka, he, he is 98 years old, he is already at a respectable age, now in canada happened a storm, because the speaker of the parliament resigned due to the invitation of this veteran during zelensky's speech in the canadian parliament. justin trudeau, the prime minister of canada, apologized to canada, to the whole world, that they invited this veteran to

the canadian parliament, i already read somewhere about the fact that they started to harass him there in canada itself, he said that i would go to live out my life in latin america, i did not hear any official reaction from the ukrainian authorities, although it all happened in the presence of the president of ukraine, in the hall where i was president of ukraine, and at least there should have been some kind of reaction from the ministry of foreign affairs, listen, well, they are not criminals, if they were criminals, then probably, starting from 1945, these veterans would have answered for this, or they would have been sent somewhere to the prison or convicted, that is, there are no charges against him, but we have e-hype, on which russian propaganda is now trying to portray ukraine as a fascist state, because they say, well, listen, look, the veterans there were fascists, in ukraine in

general , there is a whole country of such ee gunks, and they are also fascists, why do you think we will lose in this, because this is a very, very important element during the current war, the information response itself, the countering... for such things, to begin with, you just need to know the history, unfortunately, our government does not know it, and does not want to know it, and these difficult moments of our history , they are simply afraid of whether it is possible to call all the members of vafs heroes, probably not, whether it is possible to call them all criminals one hundred percent in the same way, no, therefore that already by many commissions, in particular numerical ones the tribunal proved that they are ordinary combatants, that is, essentially victims of a great war. and if we remember that most of the divisionalmen died in

the brodivsky cauldron, where they were forced to fight against the same ukrainians who were on the side of the soviet army after a year of war, then we can say that it was a huge tragedy for the ukrainian people, they were tested, i will emphasize again, three times, once in great britain and twice with a gap of 30 years in the same canada, where a special commission was created, as well, it is all completely the activities of the division are being examined by the tribunal and i think it is nonsense that the speaker resigned, and it is nonsense that trudeau is now apologizing, because the nazis and fascists are now the moscow federation, and i'm sorry, in 39 there was no vafs, but the soviet the union signed a separate molotovaribentrop treaty with nazi germany, and continues to do so now in various ways. let's say so , to destroy people's destinies, yes, it's, well , ipso is crazy now, but you know what i was surprised about, that the most actively

involved in cepso were the hindus, who are now actively, are working with the moscow federation, which they actually support now, at the government level, because the majority of ordinary people do not support this, they actively work with the moscow federation, support the killing of ukrainians as such, well, that is, these things, they are absolutely unacceptable in general, and the ukrainian state should give very clear, very short, understandable explanations of what happened, but all of them are silent and only isolated according to the statements of historians and public figures, this is of course very little, but i thank those who made them, you , ms. sofia is a member the committee of the verkhovna rada on humanitarian and information policy, well, of course, i cannot but ask you what the current situation is in the committee, because this committee was headed by nestor shufrych, he was removed from this position,

acting now, i am i understand there is braga. that's right and look, look, i'm in the humanitarian and information policy committee, it was once headed by tkachenko , now it's headed by boturaev, you know, i'm knocking back, tfu-tfu-tfu, our committee is very active now defending the interests of ukraine and the ukrainian information space, and this is the committee for freedom of speech, which was headed by shufrel, now headed by bragar, and there remained a few of the same not very, let's say, uh, delicate, if... to say no no not not very not very good deputies, let's say so. in fact, the committee on freedom of speech should be headed by a representative of the opposition force, since the only opposition in the parliament is european solidarity, so we have already announced that we are applying to head this committee. we have enough absolutely worthy candidates, starting with mykola

knyazhytsy, vika syumar, volodymyr ariyev, and volody vyatrovych. and so on, and unfortunately , we see trends when pro-government groups, factions in power, really want to lead the same way and are already conducting separate negotiations about it, although they have no relation to the opposition. at the moment, if i am not mistaken, there are only three people in the committee, because all self-respecting people actively left there in order not to be with shufrych, but this committee is now desperately needed and its work is needed, in particular, in the restoration of democratic a message and open information space, well, the work of your committee and the committee on freedom of speech is also needed, in the formation or creation of foreign language, which was once destroyed by the creation of the dom na tv channel, which speaks russian, and we have completely disappeared foreign language, what with foreign language, very briefly, does this issue arise? at

the last committee, two days ago, we raised this issue, in particular with colleagues knyazhytskyi and vyatrovych, unfortunately, now inomovlennya is a propaganda muddle, in the moscow language, foreign language in english and other languages ​​was destroyed by the servants for now, but, well, we constantly raise this issue that it should be actively returned, and we agreed that one of the nearest committees will consider a report by a tv channel, what they do, how they do it, where... what indicators do they make, so that it is possible to push away from it further. thank you, ms. sofya, this was sofya fedina, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those, who is watching us live on youtube now , please like this video and also take part in our vote, because there are literally a few seconds left before the end of this vote, do

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