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viewers, on the tv channel studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events of this week, quite a lot of them have gathered. our guests today are roman besmertny and david handelman. our first guest roman bezsmertny, ukrainian politician and diplomat. glory to ukraine, mr. roman, i congratulate you. glory to the heroes, have a good day, sir. the big tour of president zelskyi and his team to the north american continent has ended, without a doubt an extremely important visit , well, but everyone got carried away, so to speak, with external manifestations, and here i would ask you to analyze, yes, we have crossed a certain line, and there are a lot of diverse opinions about it evidence, on the one hand, very clear signals from the united states, in particular regarding the possibility of providing ukraine with cassette atakams, of course, this is not exactly what we would like, but it is still a colossal breakthrough, on the other hand. we also received very clear

advice from washington, both regarding domestic reforms, and this is also a very serious story, so mr. roman, you have the floor. the turning point actually came when the word "real" was uttered, the word abramos was uttered, the fact is that, due to the course of events and direct participation in them, we forget about classical... things, and, after all, if we take weapons, all weapons, which today available land on the planet, then, i don't know, fortunately or unfortunately, but this only shows that we are preparing for serious actions, and offensive actions, everything else is things of a defensive and tactical nature, i never i considered myself an expert, in military affairs , so i will not go deeper into these topics,

but if you look at the classic things, then in fact this turning point came when it was clearly said that you would get abrams. now regarding the visit to the united states of america and everything that happened there, v including the chairman, academician kissinger, i will say this, the fact is that - in the spring of this year, he made a coup that i never expected him to do, where, when he said that in fact ukraine should be given weapons, because russia is the aggressor, that's why that it is about the fact that ukraine protects not only itself, it protects democracy, from the point of view of kissinger's philosophy, life philosophy, this was an unacceptable thing, over the past year i had to go through kissinger's path and study

his method of working with presidents and with especially with the chinese, with soviet leaders and even with ukrainians, because if you remember, and kissinger's road through nixon led all the way to kyiv, then, in the distant 70s, to this day, everyone is tormented by the question why vinson, why nixon actually flew to kyiv, that he wanted to see here, in fact, there was a completely clear task... the staging, because actually the figure of kissinger, which or the head of kissinger, which appeared in these events, it confused many, but let's get closer to the situation, this is the superimposition of things, which took place, forgive me for interrupting, just a lot of people can to ask, what is kissinger's power, so to speak, because he is almost 100 years old, and he has no briefcase and no responsible button that he can... press, but still, he

is an extremely powerful geopolitical lobby. he doesn't just represent a lobby, he represents a line, a political line outwardly... a political line that is held in the united states of america, and its wind is now blowing at the back of the current president at the back of the democrats, because really conceptually, this ideology kissinger, she sits at the base that is represented today, it is even a shame, but it is donald trump , it is based on simple things, these are guys, stop fighting, let's make money on china, on the soviet union, there is only one thing here there is, which is why kissenger broke his position in the spring, the fact is that china is growing on money, on the investments of the united states of america, and russia is not the soviet union, because it became clear that it has

an army that is the second in ukraine . the first thing i would asked everyone who is analyzing this visit to lower the temperature a little, why such emotions, because several things have overlapped that are of an american, foreign, and even global political nature, because the complete confusion of the un and the security council was added to everything, that there happened, well , these are funeral melodies, so if all this is combined and handed over to the ukrainians, then it is completely hopeless, and now let's see: in reality, how it actually happens. at the heart of the position of the united states of america bipartisan support is not the only issue. this position is based on the entire defense-industrial complex of the united states of america and the position of the military.

therefore, forgive me, but i do not share the fear of many ukrainian politicians, political scientists, analysts, who talk about the fact that everything will fall apart, nothing will happen, and so on. and i will win here and everything and so on , no, it won't be like that, and now this letter, which for some reason is shown as a tool, but is tied to the aid of ukraine, well, what mr. antina doesn't have, it's definitely a tie these pieces of paper pieces of paper, notice how i say, i don't say document, i distinguish between what is a document and what is a piece of paper to aid the united states. the european union and the national governments of ukraine, this does not exist and could not exist. in this regard, i am more frightened by the fact that a lot of people in ukraine settled on the fifth point when these things happened.

therefore, let's put aside the nightmare of oon and for safety's sake, he is not here, let's put aside these six pieces of paper, because what is written there, well , i think that you and i already know, 30 years, we understand what is written there, because it is the alpha and omega of what should have been done a long time ago, why it was not done is not the topic of our discussions now, we understood how difficult the questions will be, we will analyze them, but, no, not about this speech, from here i can record absolutely clearly, the aid to ukraine will be provided as it is defined, at the ramstein meetings, the ramstein meetings, mainly' from the requests of the ukrainian side, and these requests are submitted depending on how the tactical operations on the front line are planned , in the rear and so on, and more, before that i want to add a phrase that ben hodges said: the war between ukraine and russia is not only a situation

on the front line. there are cases, mr. antin, when in this war, sometimes the information field presses so much that it outweighs everything that is happening on the front line. and one more thing: the fact that events on the front line are not always evaluated objectively, sometimes it is necessary for the cause, sometimes it is due to incompetence, and sometimes it is the result of the fact that the informational and psychological operations used by the enemy are on us affect ben hodges, by the way, very clearly assessed the situation now on the battlefield, he said, well, only a moron, well, i’m paraphrasing, would criticize what the servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine are doing, overcoming minefields and fortifications, very well american generals actually understand what our military is facing, great, and the americans too,

the british, the french, the germans, who are very well trained in these things, they perfectly understand what is happening and what is the prospect of the development of these events on the front line, but unfortunately, it so happened that in the course of events, this volume, shaft information, he brought sadness to many, well, and such figures as the figure of kissinger, as you understand, they are able to dramatize any situation. now the phrase and the essence of your question is, so what were the results of the visit of the president himself, what did he succeed in, and what and where did any failures occur, it should be understood that the object of his work was actually the united nations organizations, the security council and that , that security and what is called in the fields, if you take away from here your own communication with the leadership... of the united states of america in the senate with kevin mccartney in the chamber

representatives in the pentagon, and it is clear that a number of meetings took place there, which are not discussed, actually with the leadership of the central intelligence agency, with the minister of finance, and so on, because it was necessary to simply look at the increase in balances that took place during this time , moreover, i think that many people were surprised... that there will be attacks, then they won’t happen, then they won’t happen again, just not like this, we have to give credit to the americans, if we look at the f-16, at the abrams, at hymers, there was no such case that he said that left, it has either already arrived and they started talking about it, or it will appear soon, in this respect they are well done, that they give our enemies the opportunity to fornicate about these things.

as you like, and they will confuse this information so much, including the kremlin, that they do not know how to react, you and i once used the formula: the supply of all types of weapons is a matter of time, which actually depends on the situation, on the situation on the line the front, from the level of training of troops, specialists and from logistics, because well, you understand very well, for what supply when... there is no one to use it, and if it is used, there is no way to maintain it, so all this must be done, it is clear, mr. antin, that all this has a price, this price is the death of people, the death of a soldier at the front , this is what definitely pressures the need to speed up and increase this aid, but it is necessary to understand that parallel to this are happening which for some reason we do not take into account the positive development of events on

the russian-ukrainian front. the first of them is the current situation in karabakh. someone thinks that this is just a showdown between yaravan and baku. no, cherechnya and iran plus. so. well, it is obvious that these are things that are beyond the scope, beyond the framework of relations between yerevan and baku. let's leave it, but it is very important. next: central asia, few people noticed, but in parallel with the events in new york, high-profile events took place, including consultations with all five central asian leaders. they are now going to europe, where exactly the same conversation will be held with them, and soon the führer of moscow will go to kyrgyzstan. that is, this is another evidence that oxygen should be blocked.

so that, including foreign policy and diplomatic steps, will break the potential of russia, hence your thesis that they got used to it, prepared, the essence of it is that for six months they talked about the fact that their defense is worthless, but, you are fine have seen, and you know it, that this defense was built according to the chinese model. based on consultations between the ministry of defense and the headquarters of the people's army of china, the people 's liberation army of china, as it was called, and the visits of li shanfu, who is already there somewhere there are no other heads of districts, this defense system was being built, which means that it was filled not only with scientific, tactical, including weapons, this became known only two months ago.

therefore, for the first time, when it was discovered that the chinese were directly involved in the preparation of this, three-stage line of defense, and thus we begin to clearly understand that the meetings that took place on the eve of the general assembly of wan between sullivan and waani in this matter, the absence of all on the twenty great , it is in including the consequence of the fact that it was absolutely clearly said that beijing supplies russia with weapons , do you remember how he, how long they could not open his mouth on this issue, and here it was absolutely clearly stated, and beijing has a stigma in puska, such in addition to all the events on the front line, to which the definitely right-wing benhodges is added, there are also a number of diplomatic, international, and political steps that were taken, including with the participation of the ukrainian side. mr. roman, forgive me for interrupting, but we understand that the united states

are entering their election campaign, we understand that the military campaign is now russian... the ukrainian war is entering the winter period, we understand that the americans have already transported part of the abrams for a reason and they talked about the cluster atakams for a reason, that is, the question here is how the various scenarios, in particular on the picture of a long war, yes, on the other hand, we see how the russians are igniting their defense industry, little by little, but they have established the production of drones, so we understand that they will try... to extinguish our civilian energy infrastructure, here, here is such a triangle, look at what russian drones are without microcircuits, in fact, what they call high-precision weapons, and these are drones, these are all missile systems, they need , what we use

in general, we call chips, this is the fourth generation, fourth generation chips are produced only in taiwan, that is, the answer lies on the surface, the task is very simple: to block the supply to russia, let them pull out of the irons, knock out sravalok, spralk, sleeper cars, well actually that, that , what has been talked about for so long, so we can say that the situation that has developed at the moment requires an absolutely calm, objective assessment, understanding that the situation that is developing in the united states is creeping, entering... into the electoral process , it will affect the situation of bilateral relations , but in this case i would focus on the first, the thesis of bicameral support, and second, the position of the military-industrial complex of the united states of america, and ah, the leadership of the military, military-political

leadership of the united states of america, everyone was surprised, we were fascinated by the interaction between mark milli and the ukrainian defense ministers treznikov, zarazumerov, everyone forgot that mark milli is one of the people from donald trump's team, and so i just want so that the situation is not exemplary, but it was evaluated objectively, that is, if you sum it up in general, then remove, ah, misinformation from this process, remove what is not related to bilateral relations, it develops with progress, and serious progress, including the appointment of a controller, including the appointment of a person responsible for collecting investments and rebuilding, restoring ukraine and so on, all this speaks of structuring,

of clarity, the weakest point is what you and i are talking about talked a long time ago. but even long before the current events, it is the lack of a goal around which the entire coalition was united, if you ask today in washington, in london, in berlin, in paris, what is the goal, otherwise you will not get an answer, or you will get something like that, well in at best it should define ukraine, and this is what allows it to sway. and tear us apart through informational and psychological operations conducted by our enemy. mr. roman, for the last time, we have literally two minutes left, i wanted to clarify the pace and generally the temporal boundaries of the so-called military campaign. first, remember, a year ago i said that such a course of events

speaks of procrastination. i understood very well what was happening then, i understood very well that when there is no protection from the wind, you will not run very well. in fact, i am convinced that there will be no weapons that will not be used in this war, there will be no option until a general coalition is created, but a joint command is created, a combined coalition force is created, as you can see, the road to that, it leads, but it needs... time, i understand, it's great that those who listen to us will think that we are dreamers, but the fact is that in this case, we are not talking about a match between moscow and kyiv, we are talking about a match between democracy and totalitarianism. if, before all this

, they had listened carefully to what was happening at this funeral home to the general assembly of the un, then the president of iran, ibrahim raisi, said absolutely clearly: today, we, that is, he, together with his allies, represent an alternative to democracy and liberalism, which means that an axis is being formed there, which will do everything to destroy democracy, to destroy modern civilization, in order to defeat it, an appropriate combination of forces, troops, and industrial complexes is needed. thank you, mr. roman, well, if the enemy will... unite, if the forces of evil will unite, then the key story is the integration of the forces of good, and we we understand that the process is ongoing, thank you very much for this extremely interesting and useful conversation,

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greetings, iryna koval is in the studio, and these are the results of the week on the espresso tv channel. news, summaries of the week, every saturday at 21:00 on espresso. every week, the saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world. vitaly portnyk. espresso host and invited fact-based experts give their assessment and forecast of developments. if you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, see saturday political club, every saturday for espresso. our next guest is david handelman, an israeli military expert. greetings, dear mr. handelman, what's up. we are entering the winter campaign, although the fall has not ended, we understand how fierce the battles are now , in particular in the south and east of our country, on the other hand, we understand that the russians are now

starting to use... their so-called strategic reserves, in particular, we are talking about 18 and 25 army, they are not fully formed, understaffed, and the use of the strategic reserve in general means that with personnel, and with the so-called plugging of holes at the front, the russians are not doing well, but this does not mean that the situation is easier than this. to begin with, do not panic, in principle, the summer company can still continue, but in principle, as we see, even if the slow gnawing will continue for some time, the so-called clock is ticking, that is, there are chances that there will be some major breakthroughs, major successes decrease, after this, perhaps, after some operational pause, perhaps even without it, if the ukrainian command

it will resolve slowly, let’s move on, further questions, real reserve... the only thing is that 18-2 began to be transferred, this is in principle, since a few months at the front in general goes mainly to mutual reserve, who still has enough with russia to advance , indeed, we see, at least according to the available information, the schedules for the formation of these armies are not sustained, they began to be transferred faster, a positive factor in the sense that this means that the russians apparently do not have enough of those, let's see if the ukrainian command of the reserve is enough, with from the ukrainian side, we see information that 10 new brigades are being formed now, of course, there is also a question of the schedule, who should be prepared in october, november, december, how they are going to be used either to continue the continuous offensive, or in connection with the beginning of the autumn

rasputitsy, after all, the ukrainian team will take a break and rethink the next phase of the war, but we will see when the summer finally ends, not according to the calendar, but already according to the climate, when things will really change the situation will come autumn dew. dear david, the next phase of the war that you mentioned, we understand that the so-called long war has begun, the russians were not ready for it, the world was not ready for it, in principle, we heard quite optimistic forecasts from some or other of our military experts, but the reality is as it is, very harsh, very bloody, and there is a feeling that putin is really trying to play the long game, on the other hand, a series of events happened that neither the kremlin nor in russian general staff, they did not expect the black sea occupation headquarters, which was defeated, the offensive itself, the strategic

summer company of the ukrainian army had as its goal not just an exit to the shore of the sea of ​​azov with the cutting of the land corridor, the strategic goal of this exit was precisely to break the tendency of the transformation of this war, a long war of attrition in the style of iran-iraq, because in the case of cutting off this land corridor, it would change the entire strategic situation on the front, namely, in principle, the southern directions differ from all others. because the entire front has the shape of a horseshoe and the only place where it is possible to break this horseshoe into two parts, let's say, is the south , but if this does not work out, the war continues as it has been going on until now, that is, it really turns into an iran-iraq war , a war of attrition in itself is never beneficial to anyone, but in this case it is clear that it is much more disadvantageous to ukraine than to russia, because millions of refugees

continue. air strikes on the entire territory of the country continue to strike infrastructure, industry, etc., and the prospects of the state are generally unclear, how to continue state construction in such conditions, the russians, on the one hand , of course, did not plan such a long war in advance, but after kiev failed in 3 days, and even after the retreat from the kharkiv region, from the kherson region , if you take a couple of steps back and look, the situation of russia at the front is not so bad, there is no collapse of the front, no collapse of the russian army, the russian the state's enemies are the anger of moscow, in principle it is possible to fight, that's why all these plans for the long game come from there, all these already voiced plans to build up the armed forces by the twenty-sixth year, and we see