assessment and forecast of developments, want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday politics club, every saturday on espresso. friends, i welcome you, today we will talk in turn, of course, about the metsians, but from different perspectives, and we will talk about the metsians, who feel society very well, feel the flaws in society, try to express it through their works, show society that what they see and fix. some points that need to

be corrected because they harm society, and let's also talk about artists who have no green idea at all, what is happening in society, do not understand socio-political processes and, on the contrary , say such nonsense in their interviews, they are then laughed at, but these idiots still do not understand, and why society their haters, well, we are talking about this on the example of oleg skrybka, who is not at all... recently got into another scandal, i would not say that it is a scandal, ran into another mockery of himself, because he once again spoke very interestingly about feminism and about lgbt, let me remind you that feminism - you know, it’s the same horror movie for many people who are crucified in panties, russian-speaking, like stepan bandera, as once in soviet cinema, in the 1920s and 1930s, the horror movie was simon petliura, who portrayed himself in these silent films as some

an incredible dictator, a scoundrel and a cruel man, here, now very often it is feminism, and here are the people who are led, there are people who are led by a crucified mother in panties, and there are people who are led by terrible feminists, wallaholics with rags, who hate men, here is olek skrybka, alone of them, but we are in his context, i am more interested in what he said in an interview with natasha leshchenko, do you remember such a woman who has been engaged in russian propaganda for many years, and now oleg skrybka, who seems to declare his a patriotic position, condemns russia, says that russia constantly did not let us live and did not let ukrainian culture live, constantly stifled it, and now he is coming for an interview with the person who was engaged in this russian propaganda, well, we will also talk i will remind you about agnieszka holland, about the director from

clear about her position, which has always been pro-ukrainian and she has never had any pro-soviet or pro-russian position, she has now run into a huge scandal in poland in her native country, all because she made her film called green borders, which was released was released on september 22 in poland, and it was interpreted by many, began to be interpreted as anti-polish... the highest leadership of poland began to speak out more and even called and compared this film by agnieszka holland, the most famous polish director in the world, with the nazi propaganda, more or less, we will talk about it, but first about annilok , you know, we also often have to hear thoughts about why you journalists are again dragging these... or pro-russian people, or russians,

or our traitors into our information space , the greeks are already with them, let the russians speak for themselves, let's not talk about them, on the one hand, you know, i am very happy with this trend, because, well, before the full-scale invasion, the ukrainians were simply very interested in the russians, they were worried, what was going on in russia, it is one of those and with a sign plus, it's exciting there. do you remember that some cool artistic events are taking place, wow, we watched some russian movies , listened to some russian musicians, yes, who filled our most famous musical chats year after year, but now, thank god, the situation has changed and more and more ukrainians just they don't want to hear anything, neither about our traitors, nor about the russians, although the general trend, judging by, for example, the views and the ratings, still remains that we

like to look at the russians, make fun of them, but still there is people who they don't want to hear anything at all, you know, it's very good, but on the other hand, you know, it still seems to me that we should with... according to the main such facaps here are these, at least our citizens, yes, which ones or otherwise, they chose the side of russia, because we just have to remember who they are, and here i will say that anni lorak, together, by the way, with svitlana loboda, if we move now to 2021, planned her triumphant return to the ukrainian stage, and we will remember that literally at the beginning of the war they had to flee from here because they were on them big, as they said, hate, attacks, their concerts were boycotted, and so they said they had to leave here, go to russia, where they were very well received, by the way, both singers hinted that

tina karol, who supposedly had power, survived them from the ukrainian scene and wanted to be the only one on the ukrainian musical olympus. that's why she drove out all her closest competitors, they are so unhappy, they had to go to russia to perform there, they said this in many interviews, that's why they were barred from entering ukraine for a very long time, they couldn't be here not to do any concerts, but in 2021 it seemed to them that their time had come and they could return, they both acted according to the same scheme, they about... so attached the ground in with the help of clubs in odessa, they both performed in small such in odessa clubs in the summer of 2021, and there they were successful, no one boycotted their concerts

, then, they were just great, and the press, copper fans wrote about them, there were a lot of positive reviews, positive comments, people who came to these concerts and almost cried, said that oh my god, finally we see our favorite singers , we were deprived of contact with them for so long, here they finally arrived, and that's why we are waiting for their big concerts, and they these concerts were announced, at the end of spring 20 already in the 22nd year, big concerts were announced, because even the tours of lorak and svitlana loboda in the cities of ukraine and everything went so well with them, the tickets were so good. bought that, for example, anni lorak there, it seems, first three cities, she announced, then she added two more, because i understood that people would leave, but a full-scale invasion began and everything, you know, did not go according to plan, not only with the russian military, who wanted to capture

us in three days, but also with these two singers, and so what , anni lorik stated, quite recently in an interview, that there is some program on ntv about the stars, obviously, and there she declared with her own mouth that she sponsors a russian fund, which is called ru's happiness, and this fund deals with everything- only by deportation, abduction of ukrainian children, zaporizhzhia region and from occupied donetsk region, from occupied luhansk region. this fund transports children, orphaned children, in particular, those killed by the russian military, and these children are settled somewhere in russia, in orphanages, and anna lorek says in an interview that she is currently preparing a concert, which seems to be already there in moscow took place, and she promises that she

will send a large part of the profits from this concert to this fund, or he could help these unfortunate children, and she said that she , too, feels this childish pain like no one else, so that she once again reminded that she... grew up in an orphanage, she understands all these pains of children, and decides to give money to the needs of these children, yes, to provide them with housing, even, yes, so we can say for sure that what sins another one has already been added to anna lorak, it seems to me that it is the most important of all, it is sponsorship, abduction of ukrainian children, come on. let's listen to how she describes all of this in general, there is the schaslivoedstvo.ru fund, there are just children who suffered, well, about this situation, i hope that we will do everything we can together we will be able to help and make it easier for

them to build apartments, to provide what they need. let me remind you, friends, that anni lorak, well, she is like this. got into a very unpleasant situation for herself, because during what seems like a whole year of a full-scale invasion, she simply came somewhere from russia and was silent, did not say anything at all. about the war, so she fell off both chairs, yes, she began to be disliked in ukraine at all, and despised even by those who justified her earlier, but in russia she got about the same attitude, many russians who were her fans, they said that she is also a traitor, she did not support russia in any way, and therefore she should also be boycotted, and at some time, somewhere, maybe six months ago ... anni lorak has already finally decided that she will stay with russia, because she saw that

she will not be able to make a career there in european countries, because she has announced some concerts in european countries, but our diaspora and our the refugees united and they didn't allow it to be done, and these concerts had to be canceled, and she decided, obviously, that only in russia she would have at least some mo. , were ridiculed in russia, of course it cannot call a war a war, it happens very funny, it is called such a situation, for example, but, well, if we look at various such more serious people than annilock at some there, for example, human rights defenders, yes, which are like that, are engaged in even some kind of protection there, i mean the russians, they very often also cannot publicly call a war a war

, human rights defenders, people, more precisely, who call themselves lawyers, human rights defenders there, they find various euphemisms and sometimes their options are simply amazing creative, and here lorak is still trying to return to russia, she has now started to be... a show on one of the russian channels, the show is called you are super, and it is very similar to the voice format, for example, when contestants come there, they sing and there they compete with each other, who can sing better, and the feature of this show is that children and teenagers from orphanages or from different families that are not very prosperous and so on take part there. and here tarik also talks about his terrible childhood spent in an orphanage, they say that she now

appreciates such children and wants to help them, help children from anna lora, deportees, in particular, well, well, actually, you see, everyone chooses his own, and we just need to know what some or other people are trying to prevent anni lorak from returning to our stage, of course... i really, really hope that anni lorlar will not return, but we have svetlana loboda, for example, who is simply amazing with her perseverance, and here she is still constantly making some regular attempts to arrange concerts in ukraine, she still does not succeed in anything, but i think that she will try again and again, because she is simply extremely persistent, and while we are waiting for news from svitlana loboda on duty , let's talk about oleg skrypka, oleg skrypka, definitely an outstanding musician who did a lot for ukrainian culture, but

unfortunately, we conclude that he is completely incomprehensible in some socio-political issues, maybe other issues that are not related to music, but this does not stop him from making statements , somewhere about a month ago, he was already scandalized because he came to the stand-up battle show on youtube, and he also said various nonsense about feminism, outraged by feminists, called feminism female selfishness, and that it is bad upbringing, they say that ukrainian women have started to be poorly educated, since they are thinking about such a question, and you need to be completely different , you need to be some kind of golden women or the golden standard of women, he said something like that, you need to obey your husband, not dominate him, that's what he thinks , that feminism is such a domination, such a thing... women to rule over men, which is definitely not true, but

actually he comes to the interview now with natasha vashchenko and he also speaks, his presenter leads him on this topic , he begins talking about feminism again and he just says worse, he first dives into these conspiracy theories that there are some forces that contribute to the reduction of the population in the world, well, this is a very popular story, there in america, too, among some such artists, it's very well prone to conspiracy theory, it's very popular, they occasionally accuse... there, or some soris on duty, somebody's billionaires there, that they rule the world, and want to reduce the population, this it happened very often, and during the coronavirus pandemic, they said that the coronavirus is a special such invention, and it’s the seresyats about the need to reduce

the number of people, there are already too many of us, and that’s why the coronavirus was launched in order for it to destroy part of the people, so that there would be more of us... less interested in this, say the rich , olek skrybka says roughly the same thing, and he says that people should procreate, that's how he used this word, and he says that people are prevented from procreating with the help of such terrible tools as war, but , but there are still many other phenomena, such as feminism, to stop. population, yes, and lgbt, he says that he is not against feminists and lgbt, but still, these are such phenomena, not very good, let 's listen to what he says, i have four children - this is the minimum, this is the minimum , and well, ukrainians must keep up with the hasids, and if you want to have four children

, well, in such a family, in such a family, feminism stops the population, that’s the point, because there is no respect... for each other, if we adore women, adore women, but a woman, but a woman, if she behaves like a superior, then it is bdsm, it is not a family, well, actually for me, for me it is somewhere very similar to what quite recently, as it turned out, says on in his training sessions, oleksiy arestovych, i will remind you again of this scandal, when my fellow authors of the youtube channel... palaya, bought a course for men, two courses, more precisely, for men, two lectures, two seminars, as it is called, of alexiy aistovych, where he directly and not just disparagingly spoke about women, but said that he called women creatures, said that they, want, he expressed rudely, calling

sexual relations with women, and then strangling. to the point that they disappear, because women , they say, according to yarestovych, gain men with their constant claims, they castrate them, they say, with their constant dissatisfaction, that women only need money, and he advises men if your woman starts shouts at you, begins to mock you, you just move away, throw your wallet at her and say that buy yourself something. good, well, you know, such thoughts as veristovicha's, we finally, our ukrainian society began to understand, so finally, cool, ukrainians understood that arestovych, who is arestovych, why he should not be listened to and why something should be done about him already, i do not know, in the legal field it is desirable, and it is not clear why

he was a representative of the authorities for so long, a person with such wild views, and now we understand that skrybka is going somewhere roughly on the same topic that arestovych is talking about, by the way, he is a musician, he had several conversations with arestovych, and he considers him an intelligent person, wise, who expresses some interesting things opinions, and these are all different and esoteric, but what interests me in the context of this interview with skrypka is that he came to natasha vlashchenko, and oleg skrybka, as i already said, constantly emphasizes his pro-ukrainianism, well, i don't know how to name it. about ukrainianness, this is already a slightly worn-out concept , he constantly spoke, for as long as i remember him, about the importance of ukrainian culture, about the fact that we need to develop it, take care of it, how harmful russia's influence is on ukrainian culture, he constantly complained that, well, absolutely

he did it rightly, that we have such a show business, which is very inferior and many of our musicians, stars had to go to russia in order to become famous there, and then they are already recognized in ukraine, yes, because until russia approves, that means we don't understand who is talented, who is not talented, who is cool, who is not, yes, we constantly need the approval of this older brother, he constantly emphasized this, said why it is bad, why so should not be, why should we be independent, and our culture should develop self. here, that is, a person with such clear views, he was always in favor of the ukrainian language, as far as i can remember, he switched to ukrainian a long time ago, although he was a russian speaker once, here, and actually, and actually, now for some reason he comes to an interview with a person who has been engaged in russian propaganda for years, and i have two options, or oleg skrybka did not understand at all who

he came to, because he simply, well, i don’t know, he does not follow all these processes, he is not interested in them, copper processes , who in what he used to do before, now he has put on his shoes and now seems to be a patriot, because for oleg skrybka , different platforms are so interesting. it's so interesting to come and shine for an interview somewhere, that he just doesn't care who to come to, i don't know which of the two options to choose, very often, by the way, and it happens so weirdly that there are two options, both of them true, but in the end, for some reason, it seemed to me that oleg really did not understand who he came to, because in the program he complained to natasha vlashchenko, who was here she is not just a media person who was engaged in: russian propaganda, she was a producer of one of the channels that arranged all these huge marathons about sarossyatnia, about the influence of the united states, about these all just some

crazy things, that is, these shows were made by absolutely crazy people , the solovyov and skabeiv shows, so aggressive and just broadcasting some kind of madness and abnormality, and here oleg skrybka tells her that he regrets the artists who took, changed their shoes, who worked in russia, now they have become patriots, and oleg says: god, how is it possible to be like that, and here he is talking to natasha, who nods, saying, i myself do not understand how this can be, let's listen to an excerpt, before, it was possible, well, i don't know, to 80% determine a person by language, if he communicates in ukrainian and sings ukrainian mogu. language consistently, then it is clear that whose side is this being played on, for today, everyone has stretched, stretched the yellow and blue flags, they are collecting

donations, they are traveling all over the world, and who, who there is, who, on people, if people do not understand, and i think that in time it will be clear who and who, it will not be clear, if you and i do not tell, then it will not be clear, this question, by the way, is very important about the hikes of some people, right? which are apparently so authoritative in our country, yes, to dubious sites, because we know, we remember , that many of these media persons or tv presenters on various channels, people who called themselves journalists, who worked out the russian subpoena throughout all years of war, they, many of them continue to stay in the profession, for example, there is anastasia daugeli, there is such a presenter who led, in particular , various concerts for nine... i am talking about the great homeland, she, together with her colleague andriy damanskyi, said from the stage that they say we will not allow the streets to be named after our

bridge with the names of various nazis, accomplices, accomplices of nazis and fascists, as they say, they usually alluded to stepan bandera, to roman shukhevich, and so on, and so on, and this is what happens next, this host, she is in the national marrafoni, makes news for himself. already patriotic, and there is one more example , quite wild, in my opinion, there is max nazarev, who was actually such a right-hand information man, murayev, worked on our channel, also worked seriously on russian propaganda and those narratives, and he is now in he has a youtube channel on, actually on youtube, so accordingly, and there he is mostly visited by various pro-russian people, but... for some reason , pavlo klimkin has already visited him at least twice, for example, a seemingly respected person, but he comes visiting max

nazarov and tells him there about his vision of ukrainian diplomacy, what they have done successfully, what they have done unsuccessfully, what they think in different countries, why pavlo klimkin is now visiting max nazarov's youtube channel, i don't really understand, but it is happening. and that's why when oleg skrybka comes to visit natasha. lashchenko, this also does not surprise me in principle, because unfortunately it is some kind of trend that is happening , well, actually, i do not understand why, but this is our situation, and in the end, and now i will remind you about agnieszka holland, me too it seems that the situation that is happening now in poland is quite interesting, let me remind you that agnieszka holland is one of the most famous, and even probably the most famous polish director in the world, she, for example, filmed such a super-mega-successful project as house of cards, she

was one of the directors, and this series, and now she made her last film, the green border, about refugees from syria who cross the belarusian-polish border, and face the same brutality, both from polish and belarusian border guards, and that's it in belarus, chaos began because the film was released on september 22 and stirred up many people, and the poles in particular, but it is probably the most stormy thing in the whole region. so against agnieszka they support, well, really serious people in power, the ministers of justice , for example in poland, he ran over a zebra, he compared this film to nazi propaganda and said that in it the director shows poles as bandits and murderers. the deputy minister of internal affairs, blazhy pobozhiy, also spoke, he also called

this tape a disgusting appeal to poles. and that's what she is harms poland and the poles themselves, and in the end, andrzej duda also had his say, who admitted later that he had not seen the film, he had only seen the trailer, well, this is also a very common situation, watch the movie, and then say something about him, but he said that it would be better if agnieszka holland made a movie about how poles accept ukrainians, how wonderful they are, how kind and compassionate they are. well, you know, when it comes to this matter. which kind of cinema is patriotic or, on the contrary , anti-state, is a very difficult discussion, that's why that on the one hand, if we are talking about a democratic state governed by the rule of law, then the artists should ideally express themselves as they want, because artists exist for that, in particular, to point out some, well, not very good, not very pleasant, not very

attractive parties. for example, in the history of this or that country, or flaws in society, to show it and help society to become better, to improve, but this is ideally, of course, and i think that this is exactly the situation with agneska gol, because she has there were no pro-russian, pro-soviet views, by the way, she consistently supported and continues to support ukraine, oleg sentsov, she once supported, and even now ukrainian cinematographers can always turn to her as an authoritative person. or she helped something there, made a statement, spoke something, and now the ukrainian cinematographers, the ukrainian film academy supported gneshka holland in this situation, however, you know, we understand that there is russian propaganda, just russian money, which are invested in various films, and there are indeed films that can be called anti-state, anti-ukrainian, but in practice i see that such films have always evoked very few

memories in us. reaction, because let's remember there, for example, in the 90s or sometime in the 2000s, there were all those musicals, like vecheranahulizdikanka, which were very popular for the new year, they were really anti-ukrainian works that were financed by russia, that showed ukrainians like the little russians, and ending with popular series such as cadetship or my beautiful nanny and series that were still filmed before the start of a full-scale invasion, and when our... producers called for the main roles of russians, these were also anti-state things that were tolerated, friends, now we understand what anti-state things are, anti-state cinema, but it is still very difficult to distinguish the position an artist that indicates the mores of society and indeed something that carries a direct political influence, we must learn to distinguish it, probably with the help of various discussions. well, that's it,

friends. let's look further for ukrainian cultural space, enough interesting things are happening there, that's all i say goodbye to you, good luck, see you in a week, stay with espresso. it's 5 p.m. in ukraine. news time on espresso tv channel. in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. another bridge is tired in the capital. on social media, kyiv residents posted a video showing the collapse of several spans of the dykhtyariv bridge. during the reconstruction, the architects removed the central supports and placed single-span structures, which collapsed under their own weight. city government the incident is not yet