[000:00:00;00] kiev did not succeed in 3 days, and even after retreating from the kharkiv region, from the kherson region, in principle, if you take a couple of steps back and look, the situation of russia at the front is not so bad, there is no collapse of the front, there is no collapse of the russian the army, the enemies of the russian state are the enemies of moscow, in principle it is possible to fight, that is why all these plans for the long game are from there, all these already...years to build up the armed forces, and we see the spin-off of the military industry and the already announced figures for the increase in military spending, indeed, russia enters this long war of attrition in a better position than ukraine, because even the same shelling , for example, affects only a few border areas, of course, no one flies deep into russia, and the whole question is indeed, how much longer can this

continue , especially given that in terms of military equipment, ukraine is almost completely dependent on the western allies, that is, in simple words, it depends on how they see the goal of this war, far from the amount that ukraine would like for myself, for some decisive victories, this is not enough, therefore everything precisely rests not so much on the possibility as such, but on the intentions, in this case the intentions of western leaders, first of all, in the united states, and here again, an additional political... moments, we are entering the pre-election period in the united states, in principle any war is first of all a political matter, then a military one, but this specific war is even more so, precisely because ukraine almost completely depends on western allies, they themselves are not fighting, therefore they are guided not so much by military as by political reasons , so let's see, indeed, which way their beliefs and desires will go regarding what they see, what is called

the endgame of this war, which way it stands, is it worth, for example, speaking, theoretically putting pressure on the ukrainian leadership to go for some, or in the other direction, they can theoretically say that it is permissible, even this summer offensive did not bring such results as we wanted, but in principle, the war is not lost yet, we will continue to supply weapons, for example, for the next summer offensive, we will allocate so much and so on, but this should be decided first of all by the western leadership, this is already... we still do not know how the same abrams tanks will be used m1, yes, but as if there was a process, yes, i want to believe that their number will increase there, i don't know, from a dozen units to several hundreds, but this, as you rightly noted, will depend largely on the plans of the united states, on the other hand , there are chances of getting cassette etecms, yes

and here the key story is that america can... overcome this psychological threshold, yes, because etekems is extremely serious, although we understand that there are various modifications and so on, but what concerns the south, the cassette attacks came in handy would be very, very good, in principle, you can say, the girl is stretching her legs, the same as stormshaw, the scalps were also not placed, but they do not fully render their use, if you add more to them... this is kms, additional, additional plus , perhaps for ukraine in that it is not necessary for them to use planes, they are launched from land-based aimars, perhaps it will be easier for ukraine, in any case, not for nothing, ukraine has been asking for otax for a long time, in principle not for nothing, the united states has not yet given them, apparently both sides agree that it will bring a positive effect, and perhaps so positive that the united states are afraid of escalation, that is

why they do not give it. that is, the very failure to give shows that it is given great importance, but on the other hand, it is still necessary they will emphasize once again that this is not some kind of miracle, it did not solve the war by itself, but one more plus, an additional plus, let's say, the impact on the southern front, which is too far from the front, russia is still the same composition, so that they can’t pull it out, because sooner or later they won’t be able to reach the sea, that’s why they have limitations, for all this depth, so they can reach it, so we’ll really see if they will go to the front in the near future, because the information contradicts itself every day, already promised, no they didn’t promise, in fact they already gave them, they just don’t want to be told, but in any case , apparently there was no application as such at the front yet, so we’ll see if they still arrive and start to be applied, then we will already be able to see for real, no longer theoretically and practically, dear mr. handelman, and

whatever you think a breakthrough in the front line might look like under the current circumstances, the battles are complicated by the fact that the entire territory, the entire perimeter is mined, and we understand that the russians, well, their key, main task - it to stop the momentum on... so that it is possible to move on to some of our own actions , perhaps a counteroffensive plan, but in any case we understand that russian logistics is collapsing, gradually, but collapsing, and if , for example, what is called the railway is destroyed part of the tokmak, the russians may have additional big problems. in june, when the ukrainian command saw that there was indeed some kind of quick breakthrough , the dilemma arose, either to curtail the offensive completely, or to switch to slow tactics penetration, they decided that it is better slowly than nothing, so now it is also difficult to expect that the russians will suddenly run out of strength, this will allow some kind of quick breakthrough and access

to the operational space, while the slow penetration continues, also in principle a couple of hundred meters, because of the principle, it is better to be slow, how about, indeed, if it were possible how... then it could be considered a partial offensive, about the transition of the counteroffensive for the russians right now , it is far from a fact, if they have more or less enough for the defense, for the offensive, much more is needed, first of all, the armament of military equipment, it is not a fact that they are already ready in this regard now, especially if these 18-25 armies are already hastily rushed to the front, unformed. still at the stage of defense, it is not a fact that even if the ukrainian offensive stops in the near future, it is not a fact that the russians, purely physically, will be able to carry out some kind of massive offensive there in the near future, in other sections, as in the same kupinsky and in the estuary

direction, we saw offensive demands russians, in general, they have a rather large grouping in the sumensk direction , more than 100,000 and 800-900 tanks , and so on, we have not seen any... big successes of the russian offensive, that is , just in terms of the prospects of the russian offensive, the chances of they are not particularly large, but the problem for ukraine is that it is now counting on the success of its own offensive, so let's see when it will finally end, how exactly it will end, what will be the achievements, even without the russians immediately moving into offensive, if, for example, there will be no significant results, i.e. the end of our offensive impulse... does not mean that the russians have the strength and equipment, well , i don't know, it's about personnel and additional mechanized units, thanks to which they could, for example, open a new additional section of the front. in general, we can see that the lemano-kupyan axis, which

they wanted to form, yes, in principle, it rested, but maybe they would start trying to roll out additional sections of the front, vopros где измение, сейчас в принципе на юге россияне now the strategists are leading... they are also defending in the bakhmotsky direction, they are conducting offensive actions in the kupinskyi area so far without much success, so if they go somewhere to conduct offensive actions, it will be on one, on one of the active sections of the front, expect , that they will open some new direction, for example, through the dnieper or through belarus, it is extremely unlikely, because in principle it is not very profitable from all sides in terms of logistics, first of all, so if... they are somewhere come in the most simple thing will increase the offensive demands where they are already being conducted, i.e. in the northeast, kupan, aliman direction, but let's see, first of all, how this phase of the war will end, after all, we still don't know how the ukrainian command

wants to use these 10 brigades, which are now being prepared, may want to launch, let's say, a permanent offensive, if the ukrainian command decides not to stop in the winter. свое наступления, then the russians will still not be up to their offensive, if it is ukraine will continue its offensive, then automatically the russians will be forced to defend themselves there, and perhaps they will simply not have enough strength for some other area, for their own offensive, everything depends on the results and the desire of the ukrainian command, depending on these results, to continue or not to continue its offensive operation after... the fall of the razputitsya, maybe even during it, well , it is clear that it will be even slower than, now, if they want, if we talk about

the use of mechanized connections or mechanized units, in particular, well, we are talking about leopards and american abrams, we understand that there is a front line, it is mined, on the other hand, we understand that the guns and our fighters are working extremely successfully , i don’t know if it is interesting or not, the war once again shows that in this war it is not so much quality that is important, but quantity and the main benefit, the same leopards then from the abrams, when they do not come in some quality, how much they specifically shoot there and what are the millimeters of armor penetration, etc., the main thing quantity let it be, let it be a little worse than the tank , but let there be more of them, this war will swallow even more and not the same amount, in principle, even the cheleopards, we have already seen them, they are also like any other tank, they also fight back, they also say that there is no such thing as a miracle of tanks, and challengers, everything else will be the same, it all depends on the quantity, not the quality , purely here... again, we are not trying for a purely military political reason, now, if this

31 abramsh is really, finally coming, then it is clear that if desired, the united states, in unlike europe, in which there really aren’t that many armed men left, the united states could, if it wanted, take out of its pocket not 30, but 300 border guards, and ukraine would find for them tankers, mechanics, etc., but the united states does not want to, they maintain, that is why, in principle, the problem is... even, in principle, there are two combined problems, one of them is that it is clear that in the conditions of the southern front, as they are, it is difficult to use large mechanized forces, but the very fact that there are not many tanks, this makes them more saves, if there were more of them, then perhaps the ukrainian command once again thought about the possibility of some major breakthrough, but it is clear that there are several aspects at work at the same time

, a decision was made on all these aspects of the totality. mainly to act in small infantry groups, armored vehicles mainly support them, but here and there we see a message that wherever possible, even if small units still use armored vehicles, then we will see if it will really be possible to break through these lines of defense, get out more or less on operational space, if it is possible at all in the conditions of such slow progress, we will see, but in any case, in general and in general, regarding the technique, it is necessary to emphasize once again that in this war the quantity is much more important: dear david, at one time you said undoubtedly a prophetic phrase, yes, the russians did not prepare and did not expect such a war, no one certainly did, in particular, it is about the situation in the sky, so we understand that the russians prevail, but despite this, our counteroffensive is developing, on the other hand, drones, unmanned, lethal, including naval, even drones, they are beginning to play an increasingly important role, on the other hand, we understand, they created the production of drones, i think they have already

established the production of iranian products and not only iranian products. if we are talking specifically about drones, then in general, if ukraine had an advantage at the beginning of the war, the russians lacked a drone in the first place, again in the quantitative aspect, because in principle they had individual copies of almost the entire lineup, all that it was necessary, they had it, but it was. this was not enough for takoy the big war, so they urgently turned to iran a few months after the start of the war, iran closed as much as possible , partially, of course, but closed the bottlenecks for the russians in this area, and then over the past time russia has so developed this entire area of ​​drones i saw that now, in principle, it has already bypassed ukraine at the turn of this whole topic, lancetovy russia has now already come forward, if ukraine

does not, on its part, stimulate its opportunities, as in terms of the production of such purchases and other than that, in general, it’s the way it is, it’s going, now the trend towards a war of drones is unfavorable for ukraine, joint production in poland, in principle, in ukraine itself, if desired , it was also possible to create even underground production in a year and a half. it is quite possible that this is also being done, for obvious reasons, it does not get into the open press, because immediately after that russian gifts are flying for this production, it is clear that what is possible is being done, but if you look at purely objective indicators, how does it look at the front , russia has come forward, in your opinion, where should the new minister of defense umerov and the new team of the ministry put their maximum efforts now, i.e. in which areas of the so-called work of the ministry of defense, where

should they speed up? in principle, of course, they themselves know everything very well, the list of tasks lies with them, but the ministry of defense, in fact, its task is not to fight, but to prepare everything for the army, planning, yes, yes, yes, everything that was called, everything for the front, everything is for victory, primarily military production, including in cooperation with allies, precisely because, if it is possible to transfer at least part of the production abroad, it will not be affected, of course, it must be done, it is already being done in part, and even in part it has already been announced in the press, as danylo said that at least part of ukraine's rocket production is conducted abroad, of course. что можно делать, far from everything gets into the press, but the fact itself, if there are still reasons, then, despite all the objective reasons, then it is necessary will strengthen even more, up to necessarily more intensive, let's say, the production of rockets with the same mortar, which at one time

was not for nothing in the entire ukrainian army with a splash on the internet about the fact that there is a shortage of mines, recently we see a message about what we see..." this topic was taken up more actively, it seems that there were more of them, but in any case, i need to emphasize once again, by the way, these are not airplanes, not tanks, in principle, it is not difficult to produce them, and strangely, why in general, such a topic of shortage arose by the way, it would seem that in the first hour it was possible to produce much more, it is clear that in principle everyone knows the list of tasks , the most simple thing remains, just take it and do it, it is clear that it is easy to say, but in principle, if it is not activated. then no excuses will help, that it was difficult, that they could not, that they did not manage, if ukraine loses, because of this, then no one will be interested in these excuses and explanations, finally, david, do you see any prospect of what russia can raise

the level of escalation in one way or another, in particular, it may be about the use of ballistic missiles, in principle ballistic missiles are already in use , iskanders exist as they are now iran also has medium-range ballistic missiles, possibly patah 110 or zulfikar, an hour ago this topic was actively discussed, then, apparently, for the same reasons, it was not possible to obtain this uranium, but in the next month. ends the next restriction imposed on iran in terms of trade in missile weapons, on this topic it is quite possible to expect that perhaps in the near future we will once again hear news about iranian hockey for russia, if indeed it will be, it is unlikely that there will be separate instances, if already

there will be deliveries, most likely we will be talking about at least dozens and not hundreds of iran in this field of ballistic missiles, as well as in the field of drones, which has come a long way since the eighties, in particular because they have big problems with piloting, that is why they invested in other air areas, such as ballistic missiles and drones, if they start to transfer this to russia, of course, the situation of the ukrainian air force, the ukrainian rear will become even worse, until we get to that point. thank you very much, david, for this extremely interesting and honest conversation, i want to remind our tv viewers that david handelman, israeli, is currently working for them on espresso. military expert. the time of our program has run out, stay with the espresso tv channel. my colleagues will analyze the most important events of the day. take care of yourself and

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again, of course, about artists, but from different perspectives, and we will talk about artists who feel society very well, feel the flaws in society, try to talk about it through their works, show society what they see, and correct some points, which need to be corrected, because they are the society and we will also talk about artists who have no idea what is happening in society at all, do not understand socio-political processes and on the contrary say such nonsense in their interviews, of them then they laugh, and these artists still don’t understand why society hates them, well , we’re talking about this on the example of oleg skrybka, who just recently got into another row, i wouldn’t say that it’s a scandal on... to his address, because he spoke again, very interestingly about feminism and

about lgbt. let me remind you that feminism is the same, you know, a horror film for many people who are crucified russian-speaking boys in panties, like stepan bandera, as once in the soviet cinema, in the 20s and 30s, the horror film was simon petliura, who was depicted in these silent films, some incredible dictator, a scoundrel and a cruel man. now very often it's feminism, and here are the people who are attracted , there are people who are attracted to a crucified mother in panties, and there are people who are attracted to terrible feminists, ragtag men who hate men, here is oleg skrybka, alone of them, but we are in his context, i am more interested in the fact that he said this in an interview with natasha vlashchenko, you remember, such a woman who was engaged in russian propaganda for many years, and now... olek skrybka, who seems to declare his patriotic position, condemns russia, says that russia constantly did not allow us to live, and did not allow

ukrainian culture to live, constantly stifled it, and now he is coming for an interview with a person who was engaged in this russian propaganda, well and we will also talk about agnieszka holland, a director with, let me remind you, a clear pro-ukrainian position, which was always pro-ukrainian and she... never had any pro-soviet or pro-russian position, she has now run into a huge scandal in poland in her native country, all because she made her film called green borders, which was released on september 22 in poland, and it was interpreted by many, began to be interpreted as anti-polish, and even the highest leadership of poland began to speak out and even call this film gneškiv holland is the most famous polish

director in the world from nazi. propaganda, mostly in germany, we will talk about it, but first about anna lorek. you know, you also often have to hear opinions about why you journalists drag these again, or pro-russian people, or russians, or our traitors in our information space, the greeks are already with them, let their russia speak for themselves, let's not talk about them, on the one hand, you know, i am very happy with this trend. because, well, before the full-scale invasion, ukrainians were simply very interested in russians, they were worried about what was going on in russia, it was with such people and a plus sign, we were fascinated there, do you remember that some cool artistic events were taking place, wow, we watched some russian cinema , listened to some russian musicians, yes, which ones

from year to year, our most famous music chats were overflowing, but now the situation... thank god, it has changed and more and more ukrainians simply do not want to hear anything, neither about our traitors, nor about the russians, although, judging by, for example, the general trend from the views, from the ratings, it still remains that we like to watch the russians, there are people who do not want to hear anything at all, you know, this is very good, but on the other hand, you you know, it still seems to me that we should keep an eye on the main such facaps, here are these, at least... our citizens, yes, who in one way or another chose the side of russia, because we just have to remember who they are, and here i will say that anna lorak, together, by the way, with svetlana loboda, if we move now to the year 2021, planned their triumphant return to the ukrainian stage, and

we will remember that literally at the beginning of the war they had to learn from here...' because they were subjected to a lot of, as they said, hate, attacks, their concerts were boycotted, and now, they say, they had to leave here, go to russia, where their were very well received, by the way, both singers hinted that they were survived by tina karol from the ukrainian scene, who allegedly had power and wanted to be the only one on the ukrainian music olympiad, so she kicked out all her closest competitors, they are so unhappy, they had to go to russia to perform there, they talked about me in many interviews, and they were banned from entering ukraine for a very long time, they could not do any concerts here, but in 2021 it seemed to them that their time had already come and they could return,

they both acted for one of the same scheme, they about, so felt the ground in... with the help of clubs in odesa, they both performed in such small odesa clubs in the summer of 2021 and there they were successful, no one boycotted their concerts, then, they went just great, and about them wrote the press, coppersmiths, there were a lot of positive reviews, positive comments, people who came to these concerts almost cried, said that oh my god, finally we see our favorite singers, we have been deprived of contact with them for so long, here at last they arrived, that's why we are waiting for their big concerts, and they, these concerts were announced at the end of spring, 200 big concerts were announced already in 22 years, because even the tours of lorak and svitlana loboda in the cities of ukraine and everything went so well with them, tickets were sold out so well that,

for example, anni lorak seems to have three cities at first. she announced, then she added two more, because she realized that people would leave, but then a full-scale invasion began and everything, you know, did not go according to plan, not only with the russian military, who wanted to take us in three days, but also for these two singers , well, that's what, anni lorik said, quite recently in an interview, there is some program on ntv about stars, obviously, and here she said with her own mouth that that she...sponsors a russian fund called happy children's fund, and this fund is engaged in nothing but deportation, abduction of ukrainian children from the zaporizhzhia region from the occupied donetsk region, from the occupied luhansk region. this fund transports children, syrian children in particular, who were killed by the russian military, and here are these children