[000:00:00;00] it is very difficult to assess it from the outside, that is, it was a lack of panic , not because i am somehow fearless or understanding the situation, because in fact, well, i was frankly frightened by the thought that the war in our country has been going on for more than eight years, but what to do under during the war , few of us really knew, so this thought scared me enough and i understood that i was simply not doing anything, simply because i did not know what to do. how does nariman aliyev accumulate funds for the armed forces? in the first days of the war, i, let's say, started, well, set up an opportunity to show my film abroad, for charity screenings, and the film was shown there 30-40 times, in different countries, but this

method actually did not accumulate like that. a lot of money, it may have been there, well, 15-2000 € for all these shows, and they went quite randomly , that is, i am not three, well, in principle, all the money, i do not, well, they do not reach my hands, i am more of a communicator there, and in this case, i gave a list, initiatives and for which money can be transferred there, and i will list the organizers on my own mind... this money, uh, no the problem of these shows, there is not much money there, and most of this money went to humanitarian needs there, although, well, i do not say that humanitarian needs, it is not one of the priorities there, when we need to help, where we need to help, but we have much more now money is needed for protection itself, and this is what our

armed forces do. yes, in europe, many people consider this to be support for the war, that is, everyone is ready to give on socks, but conditionally for weapons or for protection, and they believe that in this way they support the war, that is, it is theirs understanding of a certain pacifism, it actually, in fact, it doesn't give them the understanding that by not being able to...' defend yourself, you're continuing this war, you're allowing more people to be killed, and so you're just even increasing your spending on humanitarian, humanitarian needs, and now, let's say, this thesis is spreading , which is actually very true and fair, that one dollar spent on - the armed forces of ukraine saves 10 dollars for humanitarian

needs, because if we stop the enemy, if we repel him, then , returns more people abroad, well, and it simply reduces the pressure on, say, humanitarian needs in europe, the less war there is, the less, say, these investments will be needed , but in europe they have already forgotten that this is a war, they have seen refugees, let's say this, in a different way, they saw refugees from africa, from arab countries, when they arrive on rafts across the mediterranean sea, where they storm the borders in droves, where they need everything from shoes to that, and we, well, this is some kind of gap time, and ukrainians are literally refugees in three weeks they flooded europe, they

were everywhere. and they arrived in lexus cars, they have iphones, they have macbooks, they have good shoes, they have clean clothes, and they are no different from europeans, that is, it is enough for them, i think it was unclear, because they are used to helping, let's say yes, refugees, in fact, well, they need help, but not in that sense , we don't want, let's say, in the sense of the state and society, we don't want our people, it's in time, well, for the most part, these are women and children , stayed in other countries, we we want them to return to their homes, and for this we need to at least stop the war, as a maximum to win this war, ah, and they have not thought like this for a long time, because before that, there was no such resistance there in other countries , who are fighting for their existence there, that is, in and we do not position

ourselves from the position of a victim, we try to explain that you should not help us, we ask, well, this is not unilateral help as victims, we ask for help so that we won, we need resources, and these resources are them, we are them no... we are just asking, because it is probably your responsibility too for allowing russia to behave like this in the international arena with its neighbors all these years, for not taking seriously the voice of, let's say, such post-soviet colonies, they were taken seriously, we looked at them through the prism of soviet/russian ideologies, and never recognized the subjectivity of these colonies as a matter of fact, and that is why now you are also responsible for what is happening in ukraine, because you never perceived seriously the threats that have been there all this time, you didn't listen, you thought it was all nonsense, and it happened, and it happened, prevent, well, it

's our internal problem in time, and we shouldn't take responsibility for everything for everything that happens, but also this responsibility as a resource should be shared with us... the so-called civilized world, well, it was the first stage, then, i did there, in fact i did many things, well different, i sold certain artefacts from the cinema at auctions, i sang songs, read fanfic with myself in the wave of the role, that is, in fact, a certain gemification, gamification, i don't know how to say it correctly, activation of donations, because all this money would actually be donated by people in one way or another, but so they also get something in return for their money, not only, let

's say, the very fact of understanding that it goes for an important cause, but also that it is like, a certain bonus that they receive for this, and we now see how many people who have... a certain social capital, they use it to accumulate, and the direction of these, funds, yes, and we see that there are actually a lot of needs, and that this free money is no longer there, and in order to cover certain needs now, it is necessary to make certain efforts, i do not do as much as other people, but from their side, whenever possible, they try to... accumulate it and direct it to the people i am there i directly trust what and whose reputation i have no questions about. who goes to charity screenings of ukrainian films abroad? the audience from foreign screenings, there were both

the diaspora and just people from different countries, that is, yes, for me it was just the accumulation of money from abroad that was important here, that is, in currency, which would be transferred to ukraine, but again, this idea... is quite unsuccessful, because my film itself, it does not have such value abroad to have a certain wave, yes, my name is not known, there to the foreign public, uh, and this money went there, and even to the red cross, because for them it is an understandable type of organization, that is, how they accumulate this money, that is another question for them, that is, but to donate directly to ukraine, on the contrary, for some... paramilitary things, dual purposes, a big problem, well, this and this just again the problem is that it is a method of communication, like cultural diplomacy, it also works , but still, movie screenings are a lot, you have

to spend resources just to make this screening happen, yes, but the result from it is not so great in reality, and the game is not good. tasvich, though, whatever, any initiative, even something, it is also important, here, therefore, well, if someone has a desire, the movie is transferred, for these movie screenings, but again, it is autonomous enough, if there is someone behind border, and there is an opportunity to do it, another problem is that, for example, our diaspora, which is abroad, has, for example, a great desire, understanding, even to donate to certain funds that support the zsu, but they do not know how to do it, they try, they even do it, but again it does not have the same effect, because there it is to gather an audience abroad it's not that simple, but those people who know how, who practice, don't really want

to do it, especially for the accumulation of money, let's say for the needs of the armed forces, plus there is certain, as we say, well certain... we have such a confrontation in the understanding of the russian ukrainian culture there, what we are quite aggressively at the beginning advocated the so-called cancel. russian culture, here, and few people understand this, because, well, what exactly was meant, well, at least for us, to listen to the voice of the representatives of the country that is now killing innocent people, in principle, it was not even fair, no there is a just war, and it started, a war of genocide, yes, or it is genocide.

the task of destroying ukrainian society as a unit so that it does not exist, and they have such a rather strange understanding, as pacifism says, that is, conditionally, buy a bulletproof vest is support for war, they are not perceived as protection, they are perceived as support for war, the same conditionally there is freedom of speech or liberality, they perceive it quite strangely, that is, when a russian representative says that it is also necessary to support the families of the dead russian families, for them it is like a debate, for me it is not a debate, for me it is a representative of the empire and an occupier who says: support the families, a rapist and a murderer who came to someone else's land to seize it, yes, but they have it hard enough this goes understanding because for a very long time, russia was this great... representative of culture in

the whole world, they poured out a lot of money for the representation of their culture and they poured out and they did a lot of things to appropriate, let's say, other representatives from other cultures in the sense that they were representatives of russian culture, that is, they usurped the majority , the majority of the figures of the russian empire , the soviet union, all of them as russian culture, that's why it's enough, it's difficult to perceive in europe, and we still have this communication, we carry out her, but it goes slowly, with difficulty, because again our voice is perceived as so post-colonial, ours, our representatives are perceived as: look, something exists there, yes, look, they even write books there, they know how to write, in they have a language, they even shoot movies. here, and, well, again, when we talk about this such

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to stop supporting it, the same thing, it's harder for us to wait for russia to collapse , because it all hangs on sticks. let's call it yes, and it doesn’t matter what the people think, it doesn’t matter what they want, what they have or don’t have, as long as there is something to shoot in russia, as long as they have something to attack, as long as they have some bread and water, they this will be enough, because we are already convinced enough that the russian nation is a nation of slaves who are not capable of taking responsibility and making any decisions. and from choosing certain values ​​and what they really have to say about what is happening in ukraine, they also think more about their comfort in elementary terms, so that this war in ukraine would not affect them, if ukraine had been captured there, i don’t know in a week, in two, as most of the countries were nagging there, then people would say, oh, it’s a shame, it’s a shame,

but they would have gone further, i.e. there, it's not a matter of values ​​or justice, or, mm, understanding that their government is committing genocide, it's all a matter of comfort, and europe is now slowly coming to its senses, she understands that all this time, which she lived in peace, she was poisoned, let's say , by a certain russian influence, he, he, he exists... c in the context of informational expansion, political expansion, economic expansion, that is, in europe, they feel a certain dependence on russia and certain influences, as it conveys its narratives, and cultural expansion, timeliness, even language expansion timeliness, because all the russian diasporas,

which are in europe, they are not integrated into the society of the countries in which they live, they live quite autonomously, and they represent some such view, of this so-called russian policy of eternity, we need to clarify, so to speak, to communicate, it’s hard to do, it’s very boring, and well, let’s say, you have to have a lot of patience, but there is no other way for us either, now a certain small, but strong enough, and such a layer, at different levels of ukrainian representatives, has grown up and been nurtured in us in any field , who are educated, who know how to speak english, who know how to argue, and in fact ukraine, this, let’s say, let’s call it

yes, no, not intellectual, but simply, let’s say this, ukrainian progressive, there is a stratum of society, let’s call it yes, they went much further than the european one understanding of the world and what is happening, it generally seems to me that the next step in the development of civilization the world can take when it finally looks at what is happening from the perspective of post-colonial countries that were repressed, countries that were resources for the empire, when they will be able to look at everything that is happening from their side, from their side, because we have reconsidered many things, we have spoken and articulated many... things, we do not have enough internal to speak these things, because here, our

state was also under the influence of all elements expansion of the russian language, politics - yes , language, yes, culture, yes, information, yes, economic, yes, that there is migration, also yes, we, all elements of the expansion, were involved in ukraine, er, and only when.. . it is clear to all that all these elements do not provide an opportunity to control ukraine and that it is becoming more and more distant every year, ah, they went to the last step, to a large-scale invasion, although there was also a military one, because occupied crimea, occupied separate regions of donetsk and luhansk regions, this is a military expansion, and it was perceived by russia as a country that understands something, which... has a plan, very terrible, and russia has no plan, russia has a great desire, but no plan, great

ambitions, without the possibility of their implementation, which distinguishes ukrainians from russians, horizontal, in we need a strong horizon, how people know how to actively activate themselves, and - let's say, find solutions in difficult situations with minimal resources, we do this very well in the field, the main thing is, i think, we greatly underestimate just a certain ingenuity, the so-called , ukrainians, because if it rains there, russia behaves in a fairly straightforward manner, dumbass, here in the military plan, even on its own terms, i forgot what it's called, guided by my visions of how

the war should be conducted, we have enough flexibility , everything happens on the ground, it seems to me , on the ground many people underestimate, a certain, not even a certain courage , skill without anything, to do so as to stop a conventional tank, yes, this ingenuity of the ukrainians seems to me to be strong enough, as we with fewer resources, as we with fewer opportunities, very to the point uh, let's say we repel this rush, how we learn quickly, how we look for ways out of difficult situations, of course, it's all far from perfect, but it's force majeure, it's force majeure for everyone, no one... how i could not have expected such a development of events, of course, everyone would like to solve this

situation in a different way, but this, this certain horizon, gave ukraine the opportunity to gain independence and , let's say, defend democratic values ​​in 2014 in 2004 in 13 an opportunity not to advance, let's say pro-russian to the all-separatist movements throughout the south and east of ukraine and provided an opportunity, as we were told, to capture all of ukraine in a week, and this is not done by such a large number of people, these are precisely the people who on february 24 knew what to do, how to do it, and for whom to do, who were activated quickly enough, who started to do, who went to the front, who began, let's say, to set up

logistical, humanitarian and, let's say, in principle, volunteer activities. movements, so that all this is delivered to where it is needed, as it is needed and we did what was necessary, and we are quickly learning again, because the volumes are very large, the needs are very large, and it is necessary to use the available opportunities quite intelligently, strengthening those positions that are directly more, well, more relevant to us, that is, in war, practicality is quite important in war, to me... we have this certain practicality, we have many mistakes, but well , there has not been such a war for a long time and there is actually no such country that could pass on its experience to us, now the whole world adopts our experience because it is unique enough, it is a pity that ukraine is going through it, i cannot say that ukraine deserves it, but this is our civilizational path,

which is entrusted to us. about creative gatherings to help the armed forces. yes, everyone is trying, let's say, to find ways to help. when i saw it, toronto television was doing a story about how different people across ukraine and abroad are raising money for the armed forces, using all possible methods, selling pictures, selling apples. offer to dance, i don't know, well, anything, like, yes, and collect a large amount of money, and, i then thought, what i can offer is that, that, that , that the point is that any thing really has a price, but the question, the context of this, thing, if it has

an additional value, and a value to someone additional, which is not limited to this... thing, then you can collect more money on this, yes, especially when it is for help from the ssu, it is another x5, in terms of money, and i remembered that i just have a lighter with my movie home, ah, it's a prop, it's the only thing i have left, and i auctioned it off, it went for 75,000 hryvnias, only a lighter, despite the fact that the person who made the second, second lot, it was 2,000 dollars in cash, also transferred this money, just like that, ah, that’s how it works, and then i just talked about this i told the story on toronto television, and i tell you how my friend, who is serving in azov, saw that i sold a lighter for uah 7,500, he says,

man, i just need it, the equipment is there for $2,000 in the script, i say, come on i have time, i will come up with something, that is, i need, how to arrange it, what to offer, me i say this to toronto tv, literally an hour later, a person i don't know writes to me and says, i can completely cover the needs of your friend, i don't know this person and he knows me especially, but this is also our strong point, what now ukrainians began