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our neighboring slovakia, parliamentary elections are taking place and there are actually some reservations regarding the percentage that can be gained by political power, essentially the party of ex-prime minister fico. in general, sociology tells us that not a majority in slovakia realizes that russia, a full-fledged aggressor, is at the same time interesting . this is what we will talk about with our next guest, rosyslav khotyn, a radio liberty journalist from slovakia, in touch with us, rostislav, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes , congratulations, khrystyna, congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, rosslav, so let's try to understand in general, the secretary general of nato ann soltenber says that whoever leads slovakia, he will support ukraine, from where.

or optimism, well, the optimism lies in the fact that slovakia , no matter what, is a european country that has chosen western civilization, will be part of the western club for almost 20 years, next year it will be 20 years since it is already a member of the european union, and for 20 years, she has been a member of nato, that is, she has anchored herself, slovakia, in western structures, this is the first thing, the second thing is that it is a country that even in visegrad is distinguished by the fact that for example, poland, the czech republic and hungary have their own currency units, and slovakia has had the euro for 14 years already. slovakia is a member of schengen, so in the western club, as stoltenberg said, it will continue to sit at the table in nato, and no matter how pro-russian statements there are by robert fitz there or other politicians, it is still a country, although by the way , it is younger than ukraine, i will remind you that slovakia was born on january 1, 1993, it is younger than ukraine by a year and a half, but no less. slovaks are an ancient people, that's why

an important people for ukraine, more important for ukraine, so i think, in this, as they say, so to speak, confidence that the support of ukraine from the side of heritage will continue in the future. be that as it may, even robert, who is now talking about the fact that he took such a slightly pro-russian line , even certain anti-ukrainian accents, it ’s the same as his biographer wrote, he is such a cynical pragmatist, quote, so, well, let me remind you , it's true that now he is the favorite of this race, they gave him a 20% plus, so i will remind him very, very much in the ukrainian issue controversial, but i can say some things. he said, i.e., that ukraine is nato, and that it is necessary to stop the supply of weapons to all of ukraine, not a single bullet, as he said in the quote, then he is against even the transit of military personnel to ukraine, although railway tracks and highways go to ukraine from slovakia, then he is against sanctions

against of russia, says that it harms the economy of slovaks, so in principle he makes very controversial statements, even the fact that he saw some fascist nazis in power even in kyiv recently, he said, as well called, by the way, imposed peace negotiations with russia on ukraine now, talking about the fact that russia will not leave the territories and crimea anyway, this quote was from robert fizo, but i will repeat him once again, biographer, stage pragmatist, the same, was the prime minister in the first term, introduced the euro , in slovakia, during the second term, ukraine, during the second term... as the prime minister visa-free from the european union, he also contributed to the fact that there was a reverse gas from the european union to ukraine, so basically it is such a pragmatist, if brussels and nato and the european union, i mean, present such a very tough bill to that line, then

even when he returns, even when he returns, it is not guaranteed yet, it is not even guaranteed that the position of prime minister will not be such pro-russian anti-ukrainian. and tell me in this case, in principle, if pragmatism is such a decisive trait, then maybe the physio will decide that i would rather be a pragmatist like viktor orban than a pragmatist like, conditionally speaking, the leaders of the czech republic or even poland in supporting ukraine, yes, actually all the parliamentary elections, and they should put an end to some kind of political crisis in slovakia, because there have already been five prime ministers in five years. that is, this is already some kind of merry-go-round of these prime ministers, that is what the whole point of these elections says is whether slovakia will continue to be like the czech republic, like the czech republic, where the president and the prime minister and ukraine, or slovakia will turn into some kind

of second hungary, and fica will become such an authoritarian populist as viktor orbán, who has problems with the european union constantly in terms of faith in law, democracy, freedom of speech, pressure on non-governmental organizations, so fitsa can still become viktor orbán , of course, if he becomes prime minister, this is true, and here even in the hungarian issue, although they are mutually exclusive say they sympathize and support each other, there is a certain opening there, because orbán is a chauvinist who believes that the rights of ethnic hungarians should be protected, including in slovakia, where hungary is much larger and more ethnically populated than ukraine, by the way. or in transcarpathia, or further on, orban recently had a phrase that caught his eye about the fact that slovakia is such a fragment of the former hungarian kingdom, that is, in general, some territorial claims to slovakia on the part of orbán, so it is not

smooth there either, but they are united by something, this is populism, these trends are very strong, authoritarianism, this is an effort suffocate the opposition, having no patience for any... positional, this is some kind of paranoid, some kind of manic and fear, some kind of fear-mongering vision of george soros everywhere, but fizo accuses the pro-ukrainian president of slovakia, zuzana chapapta, of being a soros person and a cold american quote was, so in principle, migration also unites orbán and fico, absolutely , so to speak, the rejection of migrants and does not even allow not to give even... the territory of slovakia in the future, he wants not to give it even for the transit of migrants, and they all as a rule, they go to germany in this region, so, in principle, there is a danger that another skeptical voice may appear in the european union and in nato, in the person of the second such hungary, well

, there will be such a light hungary, if indeed fico will win, although it is not yet guaranteed because the competition is very strong, and his party, the social democracy course, gained 20% plus before the elections, and the biggest competitor is the progressive party of slovakia of michal shemečyk, it had somewhere under 20%, some polls showed a small lead over fitso's party, so in principle, and šimečak, šimechka, he is a european person, he is the vice-president of the european parliament, by the way, the first slovak, he received his education in political science in prague, in oxford, a european person, a person of the world, he is very supportive of ukraine, he even believes that in nato, and in to the european union, by the way, he believes that ukraine should open negotiations with the european union about membership already a year ago, so he is a very ukrainian person... and he is also in favor of slovakia continuing to help ukraine with weapons, and slovakia, let me remind you,

weapons helped ukraine a lot during more than a year and a half of the war, for example, it was the first, or one of the first, if at all, to provide the exterminating mig-29 to ukraine and its old soviet ones, then it provided tanks, it also provided anti-aircraft defense systems s-300, it came from slovakia, but it also absolutely gave even its own, not only soviet, but its own weapons , these beautiful howitzers, these self-propelled artillery, zuzanna, so this slovak help is very and very tangible for ukraine. mr. rostislav, well, if you believe the research of the slovak analytical organization globsec, they conducted research in central and eastern europe, at least in eight countries, at the beginning of the summer, it was true, that is, we understand that time has passed and anything could to change, but myself... slovakia and bulgaria, there was the smallest percentage of people who

testified that they believe in russia as an aggressor in relation to ukraine. in addition, there is sociology that proves that 76% of respondents, at least in slovakia , are against anti-russian sanctions. can we in principle interpret this as the fact that a large part, yes, is specific. part of the slovak society, which is ready to speak its thoughts out loud, after all, is race-oriented, somehow, well, yes, there is such a problem, because this is a problem of slovak society, political and folk tradition in slovakia, so to speak, and i can give a couple more figures from the survey, this survey, 69% of slovaks believe that supplying arms to ukraine makes russia... more aggressive, that they are not needed , that is, they speak almost, almost 69% speak against

the supply of weapons to ukraine, and when the war in ukraine also started , six months later there was a poll, so there were generally sensational, well, paradoxical things, 20%, more than 20% wanted a victory for russia, so that could, and less than 20 wanted ukraine won, i.e. the absurdity is complete, there were more slovaks who wanted russia to be defeated even after buchi, irpen and bordianka, you understand what this is connected with, first of all, very strong russian propaganda, the 90s, it was authoritarian, the prime minister is very pro-russian, in slovakia it is not known where the impasse is, russia also bribed here with gas, one of the largest gas hubs of such and transit countries for russian gas, traditionally there was a very elite , the business elite was political, bribed by russians, russian gazprom and these russian petrodollars, traditionally since the 19th century... slovaks saw a threat in hungary in magyarization and

, so to speak, looked to the side of russia. , and moscow used it a lot, so in principle , these and the roots of this muscophilism and some kind of pan-slavism are very old in slovakia, in moscow, and tsarist, and soviet, and already post-soviet, it used it very nicely, and it is very serious work for the jews, for slovak politicians, for the whole of europe, how to change this public one, but the youth already think differently, the youth, by the way , the more young people come, the more chance it has of becoming a european pro-ukrainian progressive party, but tell me, why still after all, slovak and czech society were so different then, it was not like that in czechoslovakia itself, while it existed, and here it turned out that two... two neighboring peoples, which are so close to each other that even now, may create a single such civilizational

space, such different orientations? yes, well, it is historical, just the czech republic, so to speak, historically a threat to the czechs, to their national identity, identity, it always came from the germans or the german austrians, but for the slovaks the biggest threat is hungary, if for the czech republic this threat has passed, then for the slovaks it is no matter what happened, because the hungarian minority is also influential, which... sends messages to the hungarians, learn the language and stay there, someday the mogensky treaty will be reviewed differently, so in principle this moment is also the case. traditionally, slovakia is more eastern, more eastern than the czech republic, the czech republic still has a positive environment, more germany , austria, and poland, but slovakia, well, austria, there, but the soviet union was its neighbor for a long time, so in principle, in slovakia, there are more such slavic-philic sentiments, they were always there, and in

the 90s, the czech republic took a very sharp start to the west, the summit revolution, in 1989, immediately took it. course to the west, and it swayed there between east and west, the pendulum ran back and forth, as i already said, it solved the balls, i.e. which slowed down the development of the slovak language for a few years for a long time, in fact, so in principle, but nevertheless , slovakia, it chose both the european union and nato, and ukraine very actively, and it is still quite, quite unguaranteed that robert fico will return, but i think that everything ...' will depend on the coalition, how many will win, which coalition members, slovakia has to send monotonously, fully in one person, no one will win 76 deputy mandates 150, a coalition will be necessary, here in slovak politicians a lot of experience, and it is clear that also, if we are talking about the russian influence, then

no one filmed the russian propaganda either, the slovaks are given the russian language by the way. it's easier, they understand it, so in principle, all these waves of propaganda from moscow, they enter here in a more fertile environment, so to speak, than among the czechs. tell me, but in principle, to what extent is the influence of president zuzana chapotova, who, as you know, has always been distinguished by such pro-ukrainian sympathies, how much is it felt in this election campaign, well, she maintains neutrality, but she came... from the same party as the pro-european , pro-ukrainian progressive slovak party, she was the name of this party, this is the first, second, she already after the start of the war, visited ukraine several times, including that she was in ukraine together with the czech president petr pavl, here is one more moment, she supports ukraine in every possible way, really, well, simply, but she said that she wants only one

presidential term, there should be presidential elections next year and she these attacks on her constantly on... her child on constant criticism there are some kind of compromises, well, that is, absolutely dirty slovak politics does not give her the opportunity, as she claims , to be in this politics and further, she does not want to be nominated for a second term, although she is the most popular, the most popular slovak politician, she is the most popular slovak politician, svijana chapotova, and in general she is very respected, so to speak, she put slovakia on the map in a positive sense from this region, from the east and center of europe, but... unfortunately, she does not actively influence these elections, she maintains such a neutral position, but she also does not intend to run for a second presidential term, as i have already said. mr. rostyslav, clarification, i understand that the polling stations will close at 11 p.m. kyiv time, and the exit field,

you will be able to hear some results later, so read, so 22 - slovak local time, 23 - kyiv. polling stations must be closed for kyiv, i will remind them 4 million slovaks, ukraine itself has five million, 4 million slovak elections, in the parliament, as i said, 150 deputies 600 polling stations, that is, it is still interesting, by the way, everyone actively went to vote, it will also depend on the activity, especially when young people go to vote, but a turnout of 70% is expected somewhere, which is quite a lot for a european country. countries of the european union, so let's see what the results will be, and then obviously a coalition will begin, based on who passed and how much they scored. thank you, thank you, paneslav, rastoslav khotin, journalist of radio svoboda, we were in touch, by the way, the press secretary of president yeltsin serhiy came from the russian embassy in slovakia

ajemskyi, the current deputy head of the administration of the president of russia gromov, who is responsible for all media contacts, these are all the so-called bratislava elite, they still play a significant role in russian politics, in turn, they have huge contacts in bratislava, so this too must always be remembered yes, pavlo klimkin, a diplomat, former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine , we welcome you, mr. pavlo, greetings to all, friends, good evening, well, look, we were talking about anti-lovach, and this is a good question, to what extent such an axis can be formed, will visegradska almost, without prague, only budapest, bratislava, warsaw. this is a huge problem, i think, when there are certain governments that can play with other people's national interests for their electoral opportunities. well, maybe. to be actually a bit worse, and not the visegrad option, but also bulgaria will leave by steam train, that is, part of the balkans, and visegrad -

after all, for us - the personification of central europe, i do not undertake to predict the results of the elections, it depends very much on the turnout, on the or voters of relatively small parties in the latter moment will take to vote, respectively. for fice, for pillikrini, fice, i remind you, this is the former prime minister, pelligrini too, they had a big fight there, but in slovakian politics, which, as we just heard, is so dirty, here during the election campaign and on cars they entered each other's rallies, which just didn't happen, so this is of course a possible option. among the main options , of course, i see when fitz will win, but the percentages do not mean that he will be able to form

a coalition, we will see about it, it depends, of course, whether the populists will come there, they go as a bloc, and for blocs 7%, or at the last moment, everyone will vote for the progressives, and then there is a chance for a very difficult... coalition with several parties, but there have already been such in the history of slovakia. mykolas dzhuinda, the former prime minister, once led the krolitsia, even with five parties, and as for pro-russianism, you mentioned for a reason that such a group from bratislava still has influence in the kremlin, according to all polls, it is slovakia that is the most pro-russian country. .. of europe, not hungary, as is sometimes believed in our country, namely

slovakia is in the second city, bulgaria, and only in the third place is hungary, and this is a fairly stable construction, by the way, so today's elections, they are actually important for us, and if fitsa does start to form a coalition, he will succeed, we will have several challenges , of course he needs yessian money, so with the european union he will try to maintain such, such a kind of difficult history, but nevertheless, he will have something to talk about with his neighbors and with the hungarians, despite the fact that slovakia's relations with hungary have always been difficult, because of the hungarian minority, but now because of orbán's policy, they have less and less influence there, so their influence, as i understand it, specifically hungarian parties, of which there have always been two, is also less and less, so there is really a lot of uncertainty , and this is one of the most

uncertain elections i can remember in europe in recent times. mr. pavle, we talked here at the beginning about the visits of foreign officials to ukraine, jan stoltenberg, secretary general of nato arrived and we understand the profit, in particular from this visit, i will say. pragmatic reinforcement of our air defense, several signals regarding the prospects of joining nato. we understand the importance of the visit of the defense ministers of france and great britain. in addition, josep borel visited odessa, the head of european diplomacy, what does this visit mean? how to decipher it? well, landing, defense - it's a really good story, the fact that they all graduated on the same day. it's actually funny, but in such a good way, barel, he has a certain connection with odesa, because of his catalan

history, he's a catalan social democrat, i i want to remind those who consider him to be such a classic, spanish mainstream politician , especially since it is very important for barel to be present not only in that the capital is the capital, but the capital is far from always representative of the entire country, and the fact that he came to the south, that he was there , that he spoke about the help both directly and military, and about the naval strength this is actually a political signal, barel just isn't drives, so it's actually, even, even

more in a sense. weightier than stoltenberg in kyiv, i will extremely not compare it, since nato and yes are two related but different stories, but seeing borel in odessa is important, and you can think about what, in principle will the protection of ukrainian ports become a priority for the event? well, now they are thinking about it, in what way, what will be involved, what programs, even, they are starting very cautiously, and in fact it is frail, frail in our understanding, but to think about an additional support and anti-aircraft and not only, and the protection of the entire coast, this is also part of the strategy of deterring russia, i believe that control over the black sea, control over the coast, control over the corridors, control over the safety of shipping, these are all...

elements of strategic interest and of strategic importance for the european union, but the fact that not only nato is present in odessa, but also the eu, again, this is a good story, can it be considered that, so to speak, baptized with its presence, oh oh ukraine's elections, alternative the ways of grain coring, we now continue, let me remind you, in principle , ships with grain leave the ports, and this was done by the defense forces of ukraine, it was not done at the negotiations, the leaders of turkey, russia, or europe are there, i don’t know whether - some european countries, this is thanks to the defense forces, i.e. ukraine has actually paved this path for itself with its own efforts, borel's arrival may mean that

it is good, we will export like this. no, i think it's not, not about this signal, although we did establish a new balance in black the sea, the new security balance, yes, it is asymmetric, but nevertheless, and the recent complex use of drones, including over the occupied crimea, it shows that we control, directly or indirectly, a significant part of the black sea area. and ye more than once in his history, and i remember it well, tried to formulate a black sea strategy, sometimes it was completely cut short, the second is the best option, and in the end the european union will need to understand that the status quo, he no longer exists, need to build another status quo, and it is not those.

and on the contrary, for the west, the special role of the eu in this is definitely more important, to show that it is not too much trying to seize the black sea, but that it is the eu that projects its power, but in this case not only soft power on the black sea, this is such a correct division of labor , that's why i said that the barrel in odessa is in some sense a black sea of ​​security, even a more important signal than stoltenberg, despite the fact that these were very different stories and about different things. it came literally before our conversation a message from budapest that hungary is not satisfied with the compromise that is connected with the removal of the otp, the bank and from the list of war sponsors, with the suspension, so to speak, of it from this list, because hungary demands a complete and final removal and

is not going to so far do none concessions to ukraine, and how to cooperate with budapest, when it does not agree to any compromise solutions, but simply demands that ukraine do what viktor orban wants, without any, i would say halftones, and i already said that budapest already i have developed strategies, i think that none, namely strategies for how to promote something like this, to beg the european union, they will definitely demand that for consent to the start of negotiations on the eu, to the start of negotiations on individual chapters, something special, 100 % of funding they're withheld because of rule of law issues in hungary and they'll be like, stitch, whatever, so they 'll have to be talked to, it won't be about…