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studios: the events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, espresso in the evening. we return to the conversation, we live in such an interesting time, when you definitely believe that all ukrainians will not only vote differently and go to their elections, they already understand well how elections work in america, how the congress differs from the senate, what is the difference a conservative and a democratic wing, how do the trumpists differ from the rest of the republicans, but we live in such realities, nope, ukrainians are still not completely in they understand this, i am absolutely sure of the audience of the tv channel, i know that these are people who have always been interested and continue to be interested, but at the expense of our entire society, i would say the less active part of it, then no, people do not fully understand how it is works, and why it works and why it is effective despite some personal. and this is where

a specialist professional diplomat comes to our aid, andriy vasylovskyi, a diplomat and permanent representative. of ukraine to the european union from the eighth to the 10th year, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine. glory to ukraine, we congratulate you on the holiday, mr. andriy. glory to the heroes with several holidays at the same time, it's very nice. it is a pity that they are all in one place, it would be better to celebrate them separately, but what we have is what we have. that is, you are a supporter of leaving october 14 as the day of the defender. i am a supporter of not losing cover for myself. i am a supporter of not losing, for example, the holiday of the protectors, as we call them, and the protectors, but it should somehow be separated from this religious one, i think, or already be one

only on this day, and not to add something else, there seem to be two more, of some kind, well, this is how the day of the ukrainian cossacks, the day of the ukrainian insurgent army, no, stop, upas was created specifically on october 14, and there is no cover, well, no, no, well, because on the 14th we will celebrate separately , the anniversary of the creation of the ukrainian insurgent army, of course, and today we also congratulate the veterans of the up as defenders, look, see how easily we all got along with everyone, if, i tell you honestly, what if kevin mccartney could so easily to ruin everything, as we are only three, then we would not have the situation that happened now, in these and everyone is sitting and thinking, so now we have to wait for under...' months for the promised financial aid to reach us and military aid, or whatever, explain to us this story that actually happened there with the temporary budget, which they are waiting for, we

should not wait for anything, for now everything will go the way it was going, and secondly, let's remember all our ukrainian speckerriads, how many weeks, months, it seems... was a record, for almost a year we elected either committees or the head of the verkhovna rada, that is, it is absolutely inherent in every parliament to one degree or another. uh, as to whether we're going to wait, those 45 days, we're not going to wait anything, it's going to be business as usual for those 45 days, ah, president biden, the leaders of the senate, both democrats and republicans . and a significant part of the republicans in the house of representatives assume that they will be able to pass a separate resolution regarding financial aid for weapons to ukraine, that is, the 300 million that allegedly fell out of this temporary budget, they

will be returned by a separate resolution, by the way, not only ukrainian 300 million fell out of this temporary budget, there was also funding, in particular: for its protection and maintenance of the border and so on, in this case, we should see, it seems to me, very pleasant, so to speak, the option that there is a real separation of powers, there is an executive one, there is a legislative one, and here the legislative one is showing itself, and all the more so that in a year the presidential elections, and therefore the legislative one in the part of kevin mccartney, who is elected as the speaker of the house of representatives from the republicans now through the efforts of trump in particular and he wants to show himself to be grateful to trump for this promotion, but the reality is

that the american public in general, the american political class, and both houses of congress understand that to stop providing weapons to ukraine now, this means practically to condemn ukraine to defeat, and then this means a terrible mess and its probability of further aggression by the russian federation in europe, and the loss of any authority of the united states of america in the entire democratic world, so we should not to think that would happen is understandable. mr. andriy, we don't have much time, but we are very excited, when we looked, last night the results of the exit polls were encouraging, i am talking about the elections in

slovakia, it turned out that the exit polls were a little different than the results, and the result is such that it is exactly what we were afraid of, but the winners are the party and the ex-prime minister, who became famous for all the statements that to stop helping ukraine in this war, as well as to block the movement of ukraine to nato , here are two key principles, at which he went to power and came, but i would just like to remind you that this happened before the elections, when it was extremely important for him to play on the feelings of ardent, anti-ukraine, perhaps ardent pro-russian slovaks, and now he will have to work with the entire slovak society, slovakia, i will remind you, remains a country that provides us with weapons and armed assistance, and

one of the first to provide us, the plane could, and we have beautiful zuzans in a word, i think that everything can change after the elections, what do you think, mr. andriy, it is not so much that it will change, it will simply soften , these sharp corners that every political force tried to demonstrate, and they will be smoothed out, will become so rounded, first of all, the victory, you know, sometimes they compare this victory in slovakia, fico, the situation that has developed in hungary and with orbán is not a comparable situation at all, primarily because orbán's party has a large, serious majority, a total majority in the parliament, and is generally widely supported in society, in slovakia everything is much more difficult , here... not enough not 10 parties are present in the parliament and none of them has even a quarter of the votes

, so it has to be, mr. andriy, and please clarify, because we half of these parties, as well as our viewers, do not know what they are breathing, that they want, but here it will be necessary to form some kind of coalition, maybe you can tell us a little more about what formulas are there that are not unfriendly to us, but which are emerging into good solidarity, as usual, here you have a very good one now, the graphics are there on the screen , let's say this, the first is not very friendly, the second is very friendly, the third doesn't know what she wants, the fourth is the same, but the third is more inclined to us, and the fourth is less inclined to us, the fifth is more inclined to us , the sixth - no, the seventh - yes, eh, and actually we are they were blaspheming, uh, you know, most of these parties are, if you can say that, new parties. to say, that is, it is a part that broke away from something bigger, and

therefore, their, so to speak, differences from each other are not so much ideological as either personal or situational, one once used the word gypsies instead of roma, and the other did not , and now they are going to, how, how to get rid of this, because the european union ... remains around them, and the european union is what slovakia itself lives on, 90% of all slovak exports are probably to the countries of the european union, which absolutely clearly decided in general in their policy, brussels also decided, so i agree with the female half of your tandem, that after the elections, the situation... will change significantly, and what was announced at the rally, in the town near which there is

a large non-slovak ethnic settlement population, this expression was used there, but it will not work for the whole of slovakia, and even more so for bratislava, where the political cuisine is still based. thank you very much, mr. andriy, andriy vasylovskyi, diplomat, permanent representative of ukraine to the european union in 2008-10. the plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine and it's time to take a short break on our broadcast, after which we will add taras zhovtenko, an expert on international security of the dem-initiative foundation, to the conversation, stay with us. antwerp miner on megoogo. in the matches against the belgian champion, the miners need to score maximum points on october 4 at 19:45, cheer for the victory of shakhtar. turns on champions league exclusively on mego. i flew, flew, and the cough stopped me. cough is a symptom

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ukraine still exists thanks to you, our protectors, thank you. as promised, we continue our broadcast with a conversation with taras zhovtenko, an expert on international security at the democratic initiatives foundation. mr. taras, we congratulate you. glory to ukraine. i congratulate you, hero, glory, well, two such interesting, as for me, breakthrough, not news, even, but two

signals, in recent days broke our information space. well, the first is that the bundestag in principle believes that even with tauruses we have the right to hit objects on the territory of the russian federation, if we are talking about objects that threaten us, and the second news is that that the new british defense secretary, has already made his mark, i think, as i think, and in the history of a large -scale invasion, he will remain a man who, as we understand, frankly tells his citizens, well , our instructors will be based in ukraine and this and this is actually the transition of the red lines or i don't know the brown russian ones, please excuse me, mr. taras, and yes, actually, if it's about the russian lines, then there are maroon ones, and vladimir vladimirovich once said about them, but the color scheme there is closer to the brown

color. actually, if we talk about these two news, well... they 're basically nothing super-sensational that we haven't heard before, actually, if we talk about germany, then it 's clear that the most, well, let's call it that, cautious, yes in the history of supplying such rather serious systems to ukraine weapons, there was always their chancellor, mr. olaf scholz, but his entourage, in fact, in many moments expressed themselves much, well, let's say, more radical and much more decisive. you can mention a lot of different examples, but one of them came to my mind now, it is a statement of one of the german generals, it was a few months ago, at the beginning of the year, in fact, when there was talk of transferring tanks to ukraine, when

germany was occupying also, the same olaf schultz had such an interesting position, that's what everyone was talking about about the threat of the fact that, as it is, that german weapons can, that means , shoot at the russians again, and even more so, travel somewhere on russian territory, so one of the, by the way , active, which is also interesting, german generals, he expressed such an opinion , that in fact there are no german weapons in ukraine, there are ukrainian weapons of german origin in ukraine , that is, at the moment when these weapons fall into the hands of the armed forces of ukraine, they actually become the property of the armed forces of ukraine, that is, it is not that we borrowed it for use, it is , well no other story, except that these weapons are transferred directly to the ownership of the armed forces of ukraine, and accordingly they are disposed of starting from the crews and ending with the ukrainian high command, that is, in fact in the same germany, from various positions and positions purely there of such troops

- there were a lot of statements made by experts, professionals, and from political positions, which are really in our favor, which so far... the overwhelming majority of the german military-political leadership perfectly understands ukraine's need for these weapons and perfectly understands the objective reality that we cannot win this war if we simply destroy the russians only on our own territory, given that the enemy is working against us in numbers, yes, we cannot simply not, strike at the military about projects on the territory of the russian federation itself, at least on the border with ukraine. in the regions, and in the same way, there is really no special sensation in what the new defense minister of great britain said, because in fact, britain from the very beginning of this war, against russia against... ukraine, has shown itself as a state, which, well, at least, among all western european countries, does what others only think about, or hesitate to do it or not, moreover, london very often did things

ahead of even the united states of america, that is, while the americans, for example, there thought whether to hand over tanks or not , and the british took and gave us challengers, while the americans are thinking about atakms, we have been shooting at the russians for a long time, with missiles, winged storm shadows and so on. in fact, what official london does is actually, things that were laid down even by the former british prime minister boris johnson, when he campaigned for brexit, one of his key ideas was that britain, freed from the economic, trade, political restrictions of the european union, could well become, as at least a leader among european countries internationally. politics and international security, and at most a player who, well, if not equal to the united states of america in such a strategic, geopolitical dimension, then at least it will

emerge as an american superpower, and actually boris johnson spoke about it openly, and he was actually supported by the entire british establishment and many british citizens, and we finally saw that the current prime minister, mr. johnson's successor, rishi sunak, does not deviate from this strategy. and essentially what mr. shears, the new british defense secretary, has just said, it is completely in line with both the letter and the spirit of that strategy, and ultimately the actions that we have seen from our british allies since the very beginning of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, but i wanted to clarify, mr. taras, but look, in parallel, while we are discussing this, er, we see that the russians are dispersing the alleged refutation... allegedly the prime minister of great britain shisun said that we will not teach , but on his territory, and he allegedly said this to the sky news tv channel

, that’s how the russians spread such a thing, although you still have to listen to a great program on skynews, and while i’m browsing, i don’t see that there are any quotes, maybe it's russian fakery, no, i wouldn't say that, because... sky news actually already is laid out, that’s how they laid it out, i just think that it is necessary to carefully read and understand whether everything is okay with the translation, but the message of the sunok was as follows, of course, to send the military to fight in ukraine, then no, but in the long term, instructors on the territory of ukraine are quite possible to be, which is a long-term perspective, well, if the war, let's say, lasts not a year or two. well, that's three points for me and it 's an open question for me, and by the way, if we were already talking about deadlines, that's it, speeding up planning deadlines for the 24th, mobilization

mobilization of the new, that is, reporting that the 25th newly created army is fully staffed and in general we will play in debt, at least until the 25th year, this is the kind of information that comes to us from the russian federation. well, as they say in odessa, if you want to, you can, that's the question. well, actually, by the way, here was an interesting story, that in fact , we have a quote from the russian minister of defense sheigu , on this topic, it was also presented a little incorrectly, because, well, in our information space, it was presented as something that shoigu, there when she was this statement of the panel, of the ministry of defense, when they showed there, this 3d admiral, commanding the black sea...fleet of the russian federation, that he is supposedly alive, well, that's where the quote from shaygu was taken, which was put into the context that allegedly russia

the 25th year should end the war, although in fact there sheigu really spoke about the fact that by the 25th year, the russian military-industrial complex should completely replace the losses of equipment and weapons systems that the russian knights are carrying, at the moment in the trenches and on the battlefield on the territory of ukraine. that is, in fact, sheigu talked about the fact that by the 25th year they are the junk that we have already shot down , uh, on the battlefield in ukraine and around ukraine, let's say this, the russian military-industrial complex should replace all of this by the 25th year, and quite it is likely that under this, so to speak, rearmament in quotation marks, of course, that is, because we understand that we are not talking about any rearmament, but it is quite likely that the russian military plans to fit their cannon fodder over there, well, depending on what the situation on the battlefield will be at that moment, what will happen with

crimea, because this is also a very interesting question, taking into account our movement now, south in the direction of zaporozhye, so one of the possible scenarios is indeed that the russians will try to plant their new military junk there, which came off the conveyors of their military industry , the meat that they will rake in at that moment, and accordingly , starting from the situation that will be at the front, they will try to plan some next stage of the heroic offensive, well, but you are absolutely right to say that all this is still very much right now. .. then we are just for ourselves must understand that the russian military and political leadership, while there, well, even if at least one of their nazi leaders moves minimally, will still try somehow to either continue this war against ukraine or break it into certain stages, but they will definitely not give up their aggressive plans, and in this regard, we need to think about what to do next with

our military-industrial complex, in fact, we already have, and they were clearly demonstrated at this forum of defense industries, which took place in kyiv . is preliminary agreements with, some of them are very framework, very framework, with several dozen companies, with 19, at least countries, about in the future, as i understand, cooperation, possible joint production, concrete, on the one hand, this is extremely good, that ukraine, including its experience. and includes its capabilities, will be such a full-fledged player in many projects, and we can even make money from this, well, that is, it is very cool in the long run, not only will we protect ourselves, we will be part of such global, at least regional precise security, we will earn, on the other hand, there is such a caveat, but what about sovereignty, you know, our subjectivity in that development and

so on, does it mean... can we use this or that weapon, i am broadcasting to you now the reservations that average ukrainians have, please explain, but we must understand, i will start from the end, i will start with the most important reservations from the most irritating, in fact, we must understand that if we are now talking about such reservations, we are talking about what our... western partners have at the moment, yes, we perfectly understand that our western partners, they are in the vision, in general , of russian aggression against ukraine, of ukraine's actions in self-defense, they are also evolving and changing their point of view, remember, where did we start, what, let's somehow be be careful to talk about strikes on crimea , because dmitry alkoholievich medvedev wrote there that it will be a nuclear apocalypse, and maybe we

will not strike crimea in order not to engage in some incomprehensible escalation, now everyone welcomes the destruction by the british by storom missiles of the headquarters of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, and the fact that we burned in sevastopol, a submarine and another russian large free ship, which were there at the ship repair plant, that is, it is absolutely possible to predict that these moments, these warnings, they will also be to change, and from...well, in the direction of greater liberalization for ukraine, greater freedom of action for ukraine, so we are the first thing we should remember, and in the end, we see that in fact, our western partners, they show that only in such cooperation in fact, it is possible to have some breakthrough technological solutions, for example, from the point of view of the same weapons, and a vivid

example is the american f-35 aircraft, the most modern fifth-generation aircraft in the world, it really has no analogues, but oh well , which the russians show, it is made of paper, so this plane , together with the americans, is manufactured by a whole consortium of countries, more than five countries are part of this conglomerate, yes, which is engaged in the production of this plane, literally 20 seconds, sir taras, yes, that is, this is the model according to which our allies are working, and we absolutely, correctly understand the logic that we should be included in it. thank you, mr. taras, taras zhovtenko, an expert on international security of the democratic initiatives foundation, was in touch with us, it is news time on the espresso tv channel and we are giving the floor to anna yevilnyk, congratulations, colleagues, thank you for your work, the news editor will tell about most important for the moment, i will start with the situation in the regions of ukraine.