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our guest. programs, film director, actor, producer, oles sanin, i congratulate you, oles, with great success, dovbusha, with what can be said now. one of the most sensational films in the ukrainian box office, it is the highest-grossing game film in ukraine, but here in the cinema, how interesting, it is good for you that it is the highest-grossing game film, or still, do you think, maybe it should have been more to have such an elite audience, what's better, well look, vitaliy, vitaliy, i congratulate you the same way, we haven’t seen each other since the awarding of the shevchenko prize, so i ’m casually congratulating you with it. such an important thing, for example, there is an author's statement or a story that i want to tell, but in this case, since the picture is really very expensive,

a lot of public and investor money was spent on it, then of course this is a very important moment for me in order to so that the picture actually earned a lot, we could return it to the state, at least part or a large part of the funds. in which were spent, and we would like to have the same precedent, this is the success of ukrainian cinema, i am certainly not in favor of measuring the success of a film, its artistic value by the box office, it is always not the same counterpart, but still, well, if the picture gathers the viewer , he is interested in him, it was very important to me, i actually made this picture for this, and in principle we can say that this picture somehow changed... the idea, even your idea, of a person who always considered such a hero, well, how can i say it, who could be a comic book hero now , the truth is that to a certain extent, to some

much more romantic figure, well , at least the film looks like that, at some point yes, that is, i from the very beginning , when i started thinking about this picture, i was under the influence of my... director leonid osyka, who was going to make a film about the legend of prodovbush, and it was actually supposed to be such a very romantic, very heroic character, but later, when i became interested in history, i found documents, and actually i myself have become the world's best had a great influence, and it is obvious that the war, i began to think about these, these characters, about people who are sometimes called robbers, and why they become heroes, it is important to me...' was what fame does to people who we call a hero, why do we need legends and an epic as such, that is, i actually, for me it is important that this was my personal exploration, to understand myself, i don’t know if i understood it to the end, but when i

was shooting this picture, i was leading film crew, actually on this path, if we talk about what was the most for you difficult in these shootings, whatever you say it is, understanding the understanding of the image or the very process of filming or shooting, which happened in such a time of war, realistic for me, well, such a pragmatic thing was very difficult to find funds, later covid stopped us, part of the investors refused, it was very difficult to raise the film crew again to fight actually for the survival of the picture, but these are all such moments... no matter how difficult they are, they are still working moments, and the creative ones were very difficult for me , no to fall, how can you say, into such unnecessary pathos, which always exists with such heroes , to really have a very serious, open and sincere

conversation with the viewer, with myself, i honestly did not expect such, well, how can i say, this success , because it was a very personal picture for me, which affected a lot of us. things, in many moments , i knew that i was going into such a direct conflict with people who consider, as you said, in such a romantic way, ukrainian robbing and so on, and so on, even on the set on the site, i had serious dialogues with the actors, about the dialogues in the film, which is fine, maybe it is not necessary to be so harsh, this is who will come to my land and rule how i should live, spitting out my liver, and i say no, these are people in war, they say so, this is their belief, they are so hard... now they are trapped by circumstances that for them there is no life or death, something mediocre, this, this is a very cruel time, and we are not expecting this, of course, made a film about the war and in the war,

but in the 15th year, in the 16th, it seemed that some kind of peace had come, funding increased for films, it was difficult for me to raise a film crew for some things, although i had siblings, my close friend, serhiy mykhaychuk, well, he and i are the same... blood, he and i graduated from school together, we taught each other, and he he helped me a lot and gave me a shoulder and even in the implementation of ideas there and so on, but it was very important for me to say about ukraine in the struggle and ukraine in the war and successful ukraine in the war, about the ukrainian hero who wins in spite of everything, who in spite of everything fights for his own destiny, and this is an example of a person who does not wait for someone will come and give him freedom, and he will fight for it himself, this was very important to me , the most important thing in my hero is that no one will come and give you freedom, you have to fight for it yourself, there is some burden when

you are shooting a film, such a difficult period for the country, in the film crew, people, how they generally perceive work at this moment, i was always interested, because we saw, do you remember, how in the war, in the pre-war years, once during during the second world war, people acted in such light films, but here i am i think what's on their mind at the moment, you know, i think that's true, i've talked about it a lot, even with people who have lived through the war and after it, and now i see how the viewer... looks at the picture, i even i show, when the film is currently in the military units, they look at it, at the reality of their life and any joke in the picture, some intonations are funny, they are just terribly happy, they are very happy, they let their souls go, that is, really, i think , that people who live so hard, and do not hope for some hope, very much it is important to give them this hope, and surely something is needed.

their soul will rest, but this comedy must be subtle, must be intelligent, must be such that heals your soul, and not mocks you too, or makes a fool of the enemy there, it is not quite right, but you see, it happened like this the phenomenon with the dovbu picture, that the film was already completely finished before the full-scale invasion, the war was present in it, my reflections on the war, but no one expected that it would happen to us so quickly, i understood that the war is very close, we constantly talked about it, there was a feeling of such anxiety , but still i had the impression that the war would begin after the premiere of the film, that it would be possible to survive this moment, show people and somehow even support them in the struggle , that when this happens, they will have at least something as an example, let's say the same oleks dobush as an example of this struggle. in principle, this was what kept me going when i was shooting the film, i understood that it might be useful, but i

had such... no one expected that with us the current war will happen, and yes, and so quickly, and the fact that the picture will become so relevant is completely unexpected, if i had the question of making such a film now, i would not take it, there is too much in it, you know, that what you and i call open propaganda there, it is not in this film, it was not shot like that, but the intonation with which it now appears on the screen, it is like that, it really has... that is a sign of such a direct influence on the viewer , it is saved only by the fact that the film was completely shot and made before the war. well, it's important, yes that the film, on the one hand, was created before the war, and on the other hand, it came to this era , well, again, when you make it before the war, but the war is going on, that's what i mean, people still understood that they live in a premonition of danger, i meant it, yes, i will tell you a very simple example , we were preparing a battle scene, which is called, which was called: we have a fort, where, the polish army

is led by hetman potocko and among them was oleksa dovbush , they are trying to break out of the siege and they have to go through the russian a redoubt that does not give, which the hussars shoot and so on, and there, we prepared this scenery for a long time, and stuntmen and pyrotechnicians worked a lot, and there was such a day of preparation, in which there were only me, the operator... pictures, lighting and the pyrotechnics, they, they prepared, usually the pyrotechnics always, when there is an explosion or a shot, they specially warn, well, here they had no one to warn, the stuntmen worked by themselves, the lighting, as it were, and they made such a test explosion nearby and in all over me the set went down instantly, eh, just actually the whole part of my crew of lighting, stuntmen - these are all those who have already gone through the war, those who fought.

in the 14th year, they returned, some were demobilized, some were there from the military clubs of these , theirs, theirs, that is, this is such a very simple form, you know, which by now seemed to surprise us, even a reflex for the war, but we had it, but i then returned from filming a large documentary film, which was also filmed about the war, and immediately i had this very the war reflex worked even in the same way, and the entire site just felt a little tight to me. that is, the answer definitely had an effect on you, of course it did. here, i am interested in talking about overcoming stereotypes , because we have heard a lot, always discussed this legend about how he communicated with baalshemtov in these mountains and even always showed us a place here and there, under the blood level, there seem to be these rocks, we are seen, but i didn't think you would dare to take it off, you know when i'm on it looked at it, you know, because yes, the legend you tell is one thing, but when you see it in a movie, it becomes reality, why did you

decide to make it part of the movie and part of the image, it's such an unexpected thing for many, you you know, i... uh, somewhere from childhood i heard this legend that oleksa dovbush had someone, either a friend, or some acquaintance, or some doctor who lived in the forest, he was a jew, he was like that a schemer , he hid from people, they either trampled in the clay, or rather he lived alone in the mountains, he was like a man, and he was a jew and was friends with oleksya, for me it was such a children's story at first, i didn't pay much attention to it. in mind, well, when my father explained it to me, he said, these were places, they lived here, together with the merchants in most places were jews, they were engaged in handicrafts, and the gotsulas, well, that kind of explanation suited me then, later, when i was there i began to study it, became interested in this epic, it turned out to be quite a lot in the ukrainian

epic, and then, when i came across the jewish epic, and this name became not just beshtrailsh for me, i saw. behind this a huge deep cultural one, in addition to the fact that this is a story about one of the holiest people for at least the hasids, the jews there, everyone knows and understands his name, he is a big part of culture and history for them, and for me it was a sign that on our culture, or the culture there, say, the goryans, about which hutsuliv talks, it is not, not a monoculture, it is both poles, armenians, and jews. and how they coexisted with each other, how they lived with each other, and the very fact that besht already when he was teaching his students later , even after dovbush's death, held in his hands pipe and said, it is the pipe of oleksiy dovbush, i was interested in the story in general, i started to dig, dig, it became more interesting,

more interesting, i found people who understood this, some of them had already gone abroad, but this way firstly, the multi-faceted nature of the story was important to me, and secondly... the second sign was that this great robber , as he was called, had such an acquaintance or friend, who then found understanding among themselves in the most critical time, it seemed to me, that this is such a good intonation, a good note to talk about us today, about that sometimes a person of a different faith, of a different nationality, who barely speaks to you in an understandable language, that other, stranger , can sometimes be useful to you and can become the closest to you, even when i was working on dialogues, i consulted a lot about this with specialists , judaism, which i was told, it could be, it could not be, well, in the end , i still created my own version there, from the way i understood and read the story about bal

shemtov, but in fact , this communication of people was important to me, communication of cultures, everyone became a kind of symbol for his people. and this is such a difficult thing, and the actor, uh, lazar tverskyi, who played this role, helped me a lot, and for me too, it was such an interesting, interesting moment when he came to film, he had already learned the ukrainian language there, and when i admitted that he was a direct descendant of besht, it was certainly a huge gift to such fate, er, it happened, well, i have already told many times about it, well, maybe the audience here does not know yet, when i already approved the actor, i was really looking for for this role and him, i already approved the loser tversky, who from he had to come to hollywood, it was difficult, because it was far away, because it seemed expensive at first, but when he still chose it, he came, he already had a ticket and had to fly to ukraine, he wrote me a letter

that oles , i thank you for approving me for the role, i didn't want this circumstance to put pressure on you and you... uh, because the choice of an actor is a very intimate and important thing for the director, but i want that you knew one circumstance, i am there in this generation, accept a descendant of beshta, and it was certainly such a gift of fate and therefore that i really, really needed it, it was extremely important that it was a reliable image , you always know and you always understand what is right, what is wrong, no matter what you study, it is still for me, well, close, but to those ... culture, i am not a person of jewish culture, faith, i know a lot about it, i grew up in the city of lutsk , where people of different cultures and languages ​​lived nearby, and so on, but still... authenticity was important to me, very important, and it was given to me by a loser, i am very

grateful to him for that, i don’t know whether your question, but maybe this story will somehow help to reveal it, thank you, thank you, and what will happen after dovoshot, for me the answer is simple, i have a victory, i don't know, for me emotionally right now there is nothing more important than than the victory in the war, i as much as i can, i help those who are at the front, i travel, i show... with some kind of exhaustion, you know, even pictures, er, to soldiers who ask for food wherever possible, i just do everything i can to drive them away from, well you know, if, this thought, what to do next, how to be needed, to be needed outside the fact that you are now wearing camouflage, this worries me every day, i get up, go to bed with it , and so on, and so on, but of course there is a big briefcase, and every director has it. there is a large portfolio of ideas that you would like to do, but it would be very important that these stories gave

hope, gave some kind of strength, and now i feel it more than ever, as i felt it in this picture, at all those viewings of the film together with the audience, where i was, all the impressions that they are now saying about the film, i saw how important it is for people to have such films that they, if, well heal their souls. who tell something that is very necessary and important for them, and this is a huge responsibility of such people who are engaged in my profession, it is very big, especially at this time, when the history of war takes away your hope, takes away your understanding of where you live, why you live, the value of your life in general, the constant losses that happen to us, well, i have a personal one, of course there are accounts with the war, but also my family's, but that's the way everyone is now. i think everyone has losses, everyone has trouble, everyone has a misunderstanding of

where or whether we will continue to live, but now everything is for victory, after the victory, well, at least for me, the victory of our spirit has already happened, i am convinced that the ukrainians will not surrender, they will never become slaves, no matter what happens, we will fight to the end, this is an important thing, but our victory came as quickly as possible and with the least losses, it is very, very important today that this war does not fall to my children, this is me, i really want to do everything so that this does not happen, well, then we will wait, new films already, in fact, when they are ukrainian, but i will to work every day, i will work every day, i don’t know if it will be in ukraine, i already have some offers from abroad, but so far i don’t have, i won’t say the desire, i don’t have the strength to do it, or even open it, read it, they explain it, we understand you, i think, i... will live until the end of the dovbush rental, i will understand to the end what i did not express, or said, or did, well, after all, i have

other creative professions that i can pursue, in addition to the cinema, and this has always saved me, because it is the lack of the possibility of shooting a film, so as not to go crazy, i was always engaged in music, sculpture there, in the end i will play there, make musical instruments , do kobzarvo, somehow i will not die, somehow i sincerely wish you, but that your inspiration will pass with victory and we all we will wish and wait for this, because it is very important, and this is the consequence of the fact that ukraine, and the consequence of the fact that ukraine will rise from these, i would say ruins, which our enemies are trying to create for us today, thank you very much , could say i agree with you completely, thank you thank you for the invitation thank you could tell the audience to go and watch the vote but i think most have already seen it anyway given the numbers obviously we are now working for an audience that has seen this film well if you haven't have seen, you must go and see

the forest, not for us, but for your own, for your own self-satisfaction and for development, to see what ukraine was like. thanks to oles sanin, a famous film director, actor, producer, and i can only say goodbye to you and congratulate you once again on the holiday, good luck victory to you, friends. antwerp shakhtar on megoogo in the matches against the belgian champion , the miners need to score maximum points. on october 4 at 19:45 cheer for the victory of shakhtar, turn on the champions league, exclusively on mego. when pain stops time, choose afida max with arginine. in sachets faster than in tablets. there are discounts on afida max 10% in travel ban and savings pharmacies. sneezing and vitamin c - your power to fight cough and snoring. iceland. there are discounts on icelandika

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