[000:00:00;00] who should be prepared in october, november, december, how they are going to use it, either to continue the continuous offensive, or because of the beginning of autumn it will unravel, after all , the ukrainian team will decide to take a break and rethink the next phase of the war, but we will see when the summer will finally end, not according to the calendar, but according to the climate, when the situation will really change, the autumn season will come. dear david, the next phase that you mentioned, we understand that the so-called long war, a long war, yes, the russians were not ready for it, the world was not ready for it, we , in principle, heard quite optimistic forecasts from some of our military experts, but the reality is as it is, very tough, very bloody, and there is a feeling that putin is really trying to play the long game, on the other hand, a series

of events occurred that were not expected, neither in the kremlin, nor in the russian general staff, nor exactly in the black sea occupation headquarters, which was crushed. the offensive itself, the strategic, summer company of the ukrainian army had as its goal, not just an exit to the shore of the sea of ​​azov from the cutting of the land corridor, the strategic goal of this exit was precisely to break the trend of turning this war into a long war. to the exhaustion of the iranian-iraqi style, because in the case of cutting this land corridor, it would change the entire strategic situation on the front, it is precisely this, in principle, that the southern direction differs from all others, because the entire front has the shape of a horseshoe and the only place where this horseshoe can be break it into two parts, let's say this is the yug , but if this does not work, the war continues as it has been going on until now, that is,

it really turns into an iran-iraq war. in itself, a war of attrition is never beneficial to anyone, but in this case it is clear that it is much more disadvantageous to ukraine than to russia, because millions of refugees continue, missile strikes throughout the country, strikes on infrastructure, industry, etc. the prospects of the state are generally unclear, how to further lead the state construction in such conditions, the russians, on the one hand, of course, did not plan such a long war in advance, but after the fact that kiev did not succeed in 3 days, and even after the withdrawal from the kharkiv region, from the kherson region, in principle, if you step back take a couple of steps back and look, then the situation of russia at the front is not so bad, there is no collapse of the front, there is no collapse of the russian army, russian statehood is the enemy of moscow, in

principle it is possible to fight, so from there all these long game plans, everything these already announced plans until the twenty-sixth year for building up the armed forces, and we see the expansion of the military industry and the already announced figures for the increase in military spending, indeed, russia is entering this long war of attrition in a better position than ukraine, because even the same shelling, for example , they concern only a few border regions, of course, no one flies deep into russia, and the whole question is here... how much longer can it be continued, especially considering that in terms of military equipment armament, ukraine is almost completely it depends on the western allies, that is, in simple words, it depends on how they see the goal of this war, it is far from the amount that ukraine would like for itself for some decisive victories, it is not enough, that is why everything does not stop so much in the possibility, as such, as much as in the intentions, in this case the intentions of the western leaders

first of all, in the united states and here again there are additional political moments, we are entering the pre-election period in the united states, in principle, any war is the first first it is a political matter, then a military one, but this particular war is even more important, precisely because ukraine is almost completely dependent on the western allies, they themselves do not fight, therefore they are guided not so much by military as by political reasons, so we will see, indeed, in which direction the people will follow their desires about what they see, what they call... this war, in which direction is it pushing, is it , for example, theoretically speaking, pushing the ukrainian leadership to go to some or the other side they can theoretically, we can say that even this summer offensive did not bring the results we wanted, but in principle the war is not yet lost, we will continue to supply weapons, for example, for the next summer

offensive, we will allocate so many other things, but this must be decided first прочей запандое руководство, this is not so much a military issue as a political one, we still don't know how the same abrams tanks will be used, one, yes, but as if the process has started, yes, i want to believe that their number will increase there, i don't know, out of ten units up to several hundred, but this, as you rightly noted, will depend largely on the plans of the united states, on the other hand, there are chances of receiving cassette atecms, and here the key story is that america can overcome this psychological threshold, yes, because etekoms is extremely serious, although we understand that there are various modifications, and so on, well, but what concerns the south, cassette attacks would be very, very good, in principle, you can say, sometimes

i stretch my legs, the same with stormshadow , and scalps were also not delivered, but they do not fully provide their benefit, their effect, if you add to them also this kms, an additional , additional plus, perhaps for ukraine in that it is not necessary to use airplanes for them, they are launched: from land-based aimars , perhaps it will be easier for ukraine, in any case, not for nothing, ukraine has been asking for otax for a long time, in principle, not for nothing , the united states has not yet given them, apparently both sides agree that it will bring a positive effect, and perhaps so positive, that are connected states are afraid of escalation, that is why they do not give it, that is, the very fact that it is not given shows that it is given great importance, but on the other hand, still... it is necessary to emphasize once again that this is not some miracle in itself, not a war decided, but one more plus, an additional plus, let's say, the impact on the southern front, which is too far from the front, russia still can't withdraw the same warehouses and headquarters, because sooner or later

they won't be able to withstand the sea, that's why they have there are restrictions on the entire depth of tkms they can deliver, so we will really see if they will go to the front in the near future, because the information comes every day from the enemy, they already promised, no, they did not promise. in fact, they have already been given, they just don’t want to be told, but in any case, the application as such apparently has not yet happened at the front, so we will see if they still arrive and start to be used, then we will already be able to see for real, not theoretically but practically, dear mr. handelman, and how do you think a breakthrough could look like under the current circumstances the enemy's front line, because it is complicated by the fact that the entire territory, the entire perimeter is mined, and we understand that the russians, well , their... the key, main task is to stop the offensive impulse so that it may move to some actions of its own, perhaps counteroffensive plan, but in any case we understand that russian logistics

is collapsing, gradually, but collapsing, and if , for example, the so-called railway part of the tohmak is destroyed, the russians may have additional big problems. the command saw that it was true some kind of quick breakthrough was not enough, then the dilemma arose, either to turn off the offensive completely, or to switch to the tactics of slow penetration, we decided that it is better slowly than nothing, so now it is also difficult to expect that the russians will suddenly run out of strength, this will allow some - a quick breakthrough and exit to the operative space, while slow penetration continues, also in principle a couple of hundred meters, according to the same principle, it is better slowly. how about, indeed, if it would have been possible at least, it would have been possible

to consider this offensive as partial, as for the transition of the counteroffensive for the russians right now, it is far from a fact, if they have more or less enough for defense, for the offensive they need much more, first of all military equipment, it is not a fact that they are already ready in this regard now , especially if these are 18-25. armies are already hastily under-formed and rushing to the front even at the stage of defense, it is not a fact that even if the ukrainian offensive stops in the near future and it is not a fact that the russians will be physically capable in the near future to pass some kind of massive offensive there, in other sections, as in the same kupinsk and lyman direction , we saw offensive demands of the russians, there in general they have a rather large grouping in the kupinsk-emblymansk direction in total , more than 100,000, and 800-900 tanks approximately so on, we have not seen any great successes of the russian offensive, that is , just in terms of the prospects of the russian offensive, their chances are not particularly great, but the problem for ukraine is that it is now

counting on the success of its own offensive, so let's see when it will finally end, what exactly it will end, what will be the achievements , even without the russians immediately going on the offensive, if, for example, any means... that is, the end of our offensive impulse does not mean that the russians have forces and equipment, well, it's about, i don't know, personnel, additional mechanized units, thanks to which they... could, for example, open a new additional section of the front. in general, we see the lemano-kupyan axis that they wanted to form, yes, it basically rested, but maybe they would start trying to roll out additional sections of the front. the question is, where exactly, in principle, the russians are now conducting a strategic defense operation in the south, they are also defending in the bakhmut direction, they are attempting offensive actions in the kupyansky direction... they are conducting so far without much success, so if they go somewhere

to conduct offensive actions, then it will be on one, on one of the active sections of the front, expect that they will open some new direction, for example, through dnieper or through belarus, this is extremely unlikely, because in principle, it is not very profitable from all sides in terms of logistics, first of all, so if they enter somewhere, it will simply increase offensive demands where they are already being conducted, that is, in the north-east. kupanskoye ilimanskoe direction, but let's see, first of all, how this phase of the war will end , after all, we still don't know how the ukrainian command wants to use these 10 brigades, which are now being prepared, perhaps they will want to leave, let's say, permanent offensive, if the ukrainian command decides not to stop its offensive in the winter, then the russians will still not be ready for their offensive, if ukraine continues its offensive, then automatically - they will be forced to defend themselves there, and perhaps they

simply will not have enough strength for some other участок ее для своего отпавления всё приается всё приается все приалеться українского компандуния всего от действия от техоты ресултация, depending on these results, to continue or not to continue their offensive operation after the autumn break-up, it is possible even during it, it is clear that it will be even slower than now if they want to work. if we talk about the use of mechanized units or mechanized units, in particular, well, we are talking about both leopards and american abrams, we understand that there is a front line, it is mined, on the other hand, we understand that the guns and our fighters work extremely successfully, the same , i do not know whether it is interesting or not, just this war once again shows that it is not so much the quality that is important, but the quantity and the main benefit of the same

leopards and then abramsovs, when they come in, not in some capacity, how much they specifically shoot there and what millimeters of armor are penetrated, etc., the main amount , let it be a slightly worse tank, but let it be more, this war will swallow more and not the same number, in principle, even the same leopards, we have already seen, they are also like any other tank, they also fight back, they also say that there is no such thing as a miracle of tanks, and challengers , everything else will be the same, everything depends on the quantity, not on the quality, clean, here again, before it was not in a purely military political reason, now if this 31 abramsh is really finally coming, then it is clear that if the united states wanted to, unlike europe, which really does not have much armed left, the united states could if they want, they will take out not 30, but 300 abrams, and ukraine would find tankers, mechanics, etc. for them, but the united states does not want it. do not adhere to it,

that is why in principle the problem is even, in principle, there are two combined problems, one of them is that it is clear that in the conditions of the southern front , as they are, it is difficult to use large mechanized forces, but the very fact that there are not many tanks makes them save more, if there were more of them, then it is possible the ukrainian team would once again think about the possibility of some kind of major breakthrough, but it is clear that there are several... in all these aspects of the totality, it was decided to act mainly in small infantry groups, and armored vehicles mainly support them, but here and there we see the message that where it is possible, even if small units still use armored vehicles, then we will see if it will really be possible to break through these lines of defense, to get more or less into the operational space, if it is possible at all in the conditions of such slow progress

, let's see, but in any case, in general and in general, about those... dear david, at one time you said an undoubtedly prophetic phrase, yes, the russians did not prepare and did not expect such a war, no one certainly did, in particular, it is about the situation in the sky, so we understand that the russians prevail, but despite this, our counteroffensive is developing, on the other hand, drones, unmanned, lethal, including naval ones, even drones, they... know how to play an increasingly large role, on the other hand, we understand, they are increasing the production of drones, i think they have already established the production of iranian products and not only iranians. if we are talking specifically about drones, then in general, if ukraine had an advantage at the beginning of the war, the russians lacked drones in the first place, again in quantitative terms aspect, because in principle they had individual copies of almost the entire line, they had everything they needed, but

it was trivially little, it was not enough for such a big war, so they urgently turned to iran, already a few months later after the start of the war, iran closed as much as possible, partially, of course, but closed the bottlenecks for the russians in this area, but then over the past time russia has so developed the entire area, drones of all types, that now it is already in principle this whole topic, lancets and fpv, drones, bypassed ukraine at the turn, russia has now already moved forward, if ukraine does not encourage its own, in terms of production, purchases and other things, then in general, as it is, it is going, now the trend towards a war of drones is unfavorable for ukraine, joint production in poland, in principle, in ukraine itself, if desired , it was also possible to create even an underground

production in a year and a half, it is quite possible that this is also done, for obvious reasons it does not get into the open press, because that immediately after this, russian gifts are flying... gifts for this production, it is clear that what is possible is being done, but if you look at purely objective indicators, how it looks at the front, russia has come forward, in your opinion, where would the new minister of defense umerov and the new team the ministries should make maximum efforts now, i.e. in which areas of what is called the work of the ministry of defense, where should they speed up, in principle it is understood, they themselves know everything very well, the list of tasks lies, but the ministry of defense, indeed, his task is not to fight, but to produce everything for the army, yes, yes, yes , everything that was called everything for the front, everything for victory, primarily military production, including in cooperation with the allies, precisely because if it is possible

to transfer at least a part of the production abroad, where it will not be subjected to strikes, of course, it must be done, it is partially already being done, and even partially it has already been voiced in the press, as he said about the fact that at least part of the missile production of ukraine is carried out abroad , it is clear that, what is possible is far away, not everything gets into the press, but the fact itself, if there are still reasons, it means that, despite all the objective reasons, it means that it is necessary to strengthen even more, up to necessarily more science-intensive, let's say, production, such as rockets to the same mortars, since then it was not for nothing that the entire ukrainian army has had conversations on the internet about the fact that there is a severe shortage of mortars, recently we have seen a report that apparently they have taken up this topic more actively, as if they it became more, but in any case it is necessary to emphasize once again that mines are not airplanes , not tanks, in principle it is not difficult to produce them and it is strange why such a topic arose at all, the shortage of mortars, it would seem that in the first hour it was possible to produce much

more, it is clear that in principle the list of tasks everyone knows, the most simple thing remains, just take it and... do it, of course, that sounds easy, but in principle, if you don't activate it, then no excuses will help, that it was difficult, they couldn't do it, it's not managed, if ukraine loses, because of this, then there will be no one интересовать ети абракцияния и опчастиния, finally, david, do you see any prospect that russia can raise the level of escalation in one way or another, in particular, it may be about the use of ballistic missiles, in principle, ba... the rockets are already in use, iskanders, they exist both in the form of cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, now, in principle, this topic started an hour ago, now it got a second breath, about the fact that, in addition to the shaheds, russia will

also buy medium-range ballistic missiles from iran range, perhaps patah 110 or zulfikar, an hour ago this topic was actively discussed, then , apparently, for one reason or another, it was still not possible to obtain this uranium, but next month the next restrictions imposed on iran in terms of trade in missile weapons will end, on this topic can be well expected, that perhaps in the near future we will hear news about iranian hockey for russia again, if this is true, then it is unlikely that there will be individual copies, if there are already deliveries, rather in total, we will be talking about at least dozens, if not hundreds, of iran in the field of ballistic missiles, as well as in the field of drones, which has advanced very far since the eighties, in particular because they have big problems with piloting, so they invested if they they will begin to transfer this to russia, of course, the situation

of ukrainian pvynskyi will become even worse until we reach this point. thank you very much, david, for this extremely interesting and honest conversation, i want to remind our viewers that it is currently on the air david handelman, an israeli military expert, worked as an espresso for them. the time of our program has run out, stay with the espresso tv channel. my colleagues will analyze. events of the day, take care of yourself and your loved ones, see you on the air, there are discounts on cough syrup aflobin plus 25% in pharmacies, plantain, ban and savings, stress, there are discounts on tablets glyciset and glycised max 15% in pharmacies podorozhnyk, bam and saving icelandic moss vitamin. this is your power to fight cough and snoring. isislandika. there are discounts on icelandika lozenges. 20% in pharmacies

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monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10, watch this week's judicial control program with tetyana shustrova, collaborating judges who betrayed their homeland in exchange for a position with the rashists, we asked the security service of ukraine to check whether such judges have russian citizenship, and what punishment awaits them on sellers in robes, she faces life imprisonment. greetings, you are watching judicial review, i am tetyana shustrova. since the beginning of russia's full-scale war against ukraine, the state bureau of investigation has opened dozens of criminal proceedings against ukrainian judges for committing treason. in the temporarily occupied territories, they went over to the side of the enemy and violated. swear it is not known how many collaborating judges are currently in ukraine. the vast majority of them, despite

having committed a criminal offense, continue to receive wages... from the budget of ukraine. however, this problem has been haunting the judicial system since 2014, when russia initially occupied parts of the donetsk and luhansk regions and crimea. then more than 500 judges went over to the side of russia. today we will continue to talk about these traitors. judges have considerable powers and opportunities. in particular, access to state secrets and registers, personal data, residential addresses , property, known relatives, representatives of the authorities and public activists, and all this in unscrupulous hands, can turn into a heavy weapon against ukraine and ukrainians. every judge has some access to state secrets and accordingly, if the court has such access, it

can accordingly pass such data to the russian ... services, there is some hope that such judges after a full-scale intrusion are fewer than those who went over to the side of the enemy after the start of the actual war in 2014, when almost all judges from crimea began to cooperate with the occupation authorities, at the end of april the security service of ukraine detained the head of the poltava district court, larisa bogomolova. she is suspected of treason due to her alleged cooperation with the russian fsb. at the beginning of the war , bogomolova worked as a judge in the berdyansky district court. and after the capture of the southern city, it voluntarily remained in the temporarily occupied part of the zaporizhzhia region. according to law enforcement officers, she allegedly called on other workers

to support the russian occupiers and cooperate with them. and those who refused to cooperate were handed over to the fsb. last year in march , bogomolova gave information to the occupiers about the transfer of three azov fighters from mariupol to the mangosha district. the russians killed these servicemen. the security service of ukraine published an audio recording of bogomolova's phone conversation with the occupier. today i heard information that three people were called. judge larisa bogomolova handed over the employee of the russian company without remorse fsb and all their colleagues who had a pro-ukrainian position. and i can ask you, you have a list of courts, there are not so many of them, but you can tick off

those who are such a fierce opponent of all this. don't send me a photo, please send me a telegram, okay, okay, okay, in addition to outright snooping, larisa bogomolova also performed the work of a personnel officer for the russian occupiers. in particular, according to the investigation, she helped to form the occupation unit of the ministry of emergency affairs of russia, and also recommended to her russian to the curator of gauleiter berdyansk's candidacy and the leaders of one of the local hobbyists. therefore, i will make a list for you, it is better if you call me one more time, tell me, ask me one more time, i will tell you for sure, if i know something, i will tell you for sure, if i do not know, i will say, sorry, that i do not know, that i don't know, i can ask someone i know, i know, the court took larisa bogomolova into custody without bail, and the lawyers tried to

cancel her arrest, assuring that the judge has a serious illness. in particular, they emphasized that since 2017, bogomolova has been suffering from cancer and diabetes. also, larisa bogomolova's lawyers assure that all the information about the azov fighters, which she gave to the russian fsb employee, is not true. from the decision of the zaporizhzhya court of appeal. according to the testimony of the suspect, information. which was reported to the employee of the fsb of the russian federation is a fiction, does not contain reliable data that was known to her, any coincidence is accidental. however, the prosecutors did not find confirmation of these words. the court kept bogomolova in custody. this is iryna ukhanyova, the head of the vovchan district court of the kharkiv region. she is not famous