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to form a new government, and despite the victory, he will have to form a coalition to obtain a majority in the parliament with parties that support the transfer of arms to ukraine. robert fizo is called an ambiguous political figure. last year, he was accused of creating a criminal group together with the ex-minister of the interior, and he ended his previous term as prime minister until the end of his term after local journalist and investigator jaan kuciak was killed in slovakia in 2018, he and his fiancee were found shot dead in their own at home the murder sparked mass protests in slovakia demanding an end to the mafia's influence in the country. my colleague, rostyslav khotyn, columnist of radio svoboda, joins our broadcast. greetings rostislav. tell us what these election results mean for ukraine, whether kyiv can no longer count on slovakia's support, or whether pro-ukrainian forces can still form a coalition. well, how did the vote go? in
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slovak, i pass the word to you, rostislav. thank you, kateryna, you best summed up the consequences for ukraine of these parliamentary, up to term parliamentary elections in slovakia, former minister of finance of slovakia. he said yes, very bad news for ukraine, and even worse news for slovakia itself. 59-year-old robert fico, leader of the smer party, the direction or course of social democracy, is a classic viktor orbán-like pro-russian populist. he campaigned on anti-ukrainian notes, in particular he said that no weapons should be supplied to ukraine, and he said yes, the slogan was, no cartridges, no cartridges for ukraine. i urge you to impose some on ukraine unfavorable peace negotiations with russia already now and says that russia will still not leave the occupied territories and crimea, against ukraine's membership in nato, i consider ukraine's membership in the european union to be an illusion.
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opposes anti-russian sanctions by the european union, in general, before the very elections that took place on saturday, september 30, he generally agreed with what he said he saw some nazis and fascists in power in kyiv, that is, such a classic pro-russian populist, but it is not guaranteed that robert fico will be the fourth time the prime minister of the country, he really has an odious reputation in slovak politics, due to the fact that as a result of the slovak maidan... the so-called slovak maidan, 5 years ago, he was removed from the post of prime minister, due to the murder of a journalist, the anti-corruption investigator, and in foreign policy, this strong emphasis on pro-russian and anti-ukrainianism also scares away many potential partners, to prevent fitza from entering the prime minister's office, urges michal shemechka, whose party progressive slovakia took second place from almost 18%. he believes that the stay of fiz in power. will lead slovakia into isolation.
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szymicka himself is 39 years old and is the vice-president of the european parliament. he is a pro-ukrainian and pro-european politician, advocates ukraine's membership in nato, says that membership in the european union is a reality for ukraine, and that ukraine should start negotiations on joining the european union this 23rd year. that is, such a pro-ukrainian, pro-european politician. he also has a chance to form a government coalition, if the fiz.... fails, then michal shimechka can also form a coalition, in particular with the voice party, which took third place with 15% of the party, petra pellegrini, such a moderate party, also, the party of freedom and justice, also other parties can join, so now the golden share is in in the hands of the former prime minister petr pellegrini, who with his vote took the third place, where he landed, the more chances to become the prime minister. michal
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šemechka himself tells the bronze medalist piligrini the following: before you is a civilizational choice for slovakia, whether the country will go west or east. pelligrini himself also says that there will be no turning away from the european union and nato, of which slovakia has been a member for almost 20 years. therefore, today president suzana chapatova should give fico a mandate to form a government as a bridge to these formal parliamentary races. he will have 15 30 days to form a new government, and then this government should be in place after three 30 days, if this does not happen, the mandate to form the government can be given to the liberal, pro-ukrainian, pro-european politician michal shimechka. in general, the support of slovakia is very important for ukraine, it was the first to do so in ukraine, for example by destroying the mig-29, it gave tanks, it gave the s300 anti-aircraft system, howitzers, howitzers, i.e. it was a colossal support, it accepted 100,000 refugees from ukraine, so that whether this support of slovakia will remain
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for ukraine in the future and will depend on who heads the government, whether this government will be pro-european, pro-ukrainian, or pro-russian and actually anti-slovak, kateryna. rostislav, thank you very much for the review of events and election results in slovakia and their possible influence on the situation in ukraine. radio liberty columnist rosyslav khotyn joined our broadcast. thank you. stop playing games and do it, us president joe biden has criticized members of the republican party who have blocked the inclusion of aid to ukraine in the us interim budget and urged them to do so immediately. biden also noted that he had reached agreements with house of representatives kevin mccarthy regarding a separate vote on the ukrainian issue and is now waiting to see if he will fulfill this agreement. biden assured that the us will continue to support ukraine in the war with russia, because he says he does not believe that members of both parties of congress will allow even more
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people to die in ukraine simply for political reasons. i want to assure our american allies, the american people and the people of ukraine that you can count on... our support, we are not going anywhere, the vast majority of both parties, i repeat democrats and republicans, the senate and the house of representatives, support aid to ukraine under the conditions brutal aggression against they were carried out by russia. stop playing games, do it. he noted that the us congress passed a temporary budget resolution late on saturday, the last day of the fiscal year in america. this resolution provides for a brief spending plan of the american budget for a period of 4 days, the adoption of this resolution made it possible to prevent a shutdown in the united states, the closing of government structures and the release of workers on unpaid leave, which could come as early as today, if the congressmen did not agree. one of the most controversial issues during the discussion of the temporary budget resolution in congress, was the provision of
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financial support to ukraine. more than six billion dollars were previously earmarked for kyiv. most of this amount is more than 4 billion (this is military aid), however, it is against the provision of ukraine. money in the interim period , the house of representatives, namely the maga group - a hard wing of the republican party, spoke, but during the vote in the senate, representatives of both parties confirmed their support for ukraine. this is a temporary solution, not an end point appointment. we will not stop fighting for increased economic and security assistance to ukraine. majorities in both parties support aid to ukraine and doing more is vital to security. america and democracy around the world. i am sure that the senate will pass a decision on further emergency aid to ukraine later this year. let's be clear that the alternative to our actions today - an avoidable government shutdown - will not just halt
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our progress on these important priorities, it will actually set it back. meanwhile, in ukraine, they believe that the lack of aid in the temporary american budget is better than a shutdown in the united states, said the spokesman of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, oleg nikolenko. on his facebook page, he wrote that the current situation will not affect the announcement of earlier receipts from the us government. currently, it is more than 2.8 billion dollars. on the other hand, if it came to a shutdown, it could have a negative impact on the implementation of current programs - says nikolenko. now the ukrainian government is actively working with the americans so that the new budget decision of the united states of america, which will be worked out within the next 45 days, includes new funds for assistance to ukraine. let's not forget that in the united states there are ongoing internal political discussions related to the american political process. support for ukraine remains unwaveringly strong, both in the us administration
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and in both parties and houses of congress of the united states of america, and most importantly among the american people. volodymyr fesenko, a ukrainian political scientist, joins us ether, i congratulate you. i congratulate you. mr. volodymyr, these debates in america are so disturbing, regarding both the shutdown and the temporary budget. in your opinion, is there such a real threat to kyiv that due to the elections, due to the mood of the population, political prospects, ratings, ukraine may be left without aid, or receive only a part of it? well, there is a risk that there may be fluctuations in the amount of aid, in its, let's say, systematicity, when we received and received, received both financial and military aid every month, and now here we are, in fact, for the first time facing such a delay, in connection with, well, intensification of domestic political activity in the usa
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, in fact the election campaign is starting and the intensification of contradictions between republicans and democrats in the context of the upcoming presidential elections, it, for example, a great regret, created such problem, i think this is a temporary problem, but such fluctuations during the election campaign are possible, you already mentioned that there is such an active radical wing among the republicans, it is not so anti-ukrainian as i would say so selfish and populist, their slogan is money for america , but instead of helping ukraine, we need to build a wall on the border with mexico, that's the problem, the speaker of the lower house is forced to maneuver, and this is the vote of this, meanwhile... budget for 45 days,
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it was a compromise, why did they go to such a compromise, because, well, for american voters, here too, it is necessary to understand that their money is more important to them, the money that goes directly to them, yes, there is an understanding that it is necessary to help to our allies and, well, at least the relative majority of americans support ukraine, and in this... sense, there are no such fundamental changes, but, nevertheless, internal political schedules, they act first of all, i think that most likely, after a certain time, a separate resolution or a separate law will be voted regarding the support of ukraine, in order to restore the financial military support of ukraine, and then the budget itself will be approved for the next year, there were no eternal shutdowns in the usa, yes, such crises did occur, by the way... he also notes that in why is there a nuance, pre-election, in the time of trump, democrats
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arranged the administration of trump, trump and the republicans, they arranged both the shutdown and the impeachment, now the republicans are doing the same, that is, they are also responsible before the elections, so unfortunately, to some extent, we have become hostages to such internal political, not even competitions, but conflicts, but still, we will rely on the fact, and this was in your report, that there is bipartisan support, and we see it, especially in the senate, in the lower house , the situation is more complicated there, it is more, let's say, conflicted, especially in the faction republicans, but i think that certain possibilities for a constructive solution to this problem still exist, in the european union as well... this issue is acute in some countries, but in slovakia a pro-russian candidate is winning, and this
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also shows certain attitudes the population of this country, and in your opinion, can such sentiments affect the citizens of other european union countries, from which ukraine receives weapons and money, well, after all, each country has its own situation, there are definitely fluctuations in sentiment, and even from the past year, for example, i will give another example...' where there is a high level of support for ukraine both on the part of the government and on the part of society at large, but there is an active populist wing, an active populist camp, which acts like trumpists, not all even trumpists, but radical trumpists in the usa that the money only goes to their country, the czech republic, the czech republic supports us, it is very active , a small country, but large amounts of aid, active political support, and this is carried out systematically, there are no changes here, but there is a camp of opponents, we see that now
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there are elections in poland and the political situation, even there , some politicians of the reformist party set conditions so that we are not friends with germany, well, how come we are friends with the european union, we are friends with those who help us, here they set conditions for us, there can be such fluctuations, there are elements and manifestations trends of war fatigue, this is also there, but... nevertheless, the general support for ukraine , the dominance of the trend of support for ukraine, it persists, it’s just that now it is not so tangible, it is not possible to have such, you know, bright, powerful empathy, which was in the first months of war, now it is more peaceful forms, more rationalistic forms, but this tendency dominates, in slovak, we may not have paid attention before, experts knew about it, paradoxically, the highest level of pro-russian sentiments. in the european union was not in greece, not in bulgaria, not in hungary, not in slovakia.
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this is how it turned out, this is a separate phenomenon, i think we should ask the experts in this country here, but unfortunately, this was also manifested in the results of the election, the elections where this populist party died, formally it was previously considered left-centered, and now it is becoming more and more populist, so it became the formal winner, but no catastrophe happened, but let's not rush to conclusions, why, because any new government will be coalition, coalition and the policy of this government will be determined not only by fico, if he will become prime minister, he has a chance, by the way, but if he has to come to an agreement with two more parties, at least two parties , one of them, by the way, is a supporter, well, not consistently, but a supporter of ukraine, maintaining support for ukraine, there is option, when fico's opponents,
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the pro-european parties, agree, they can create a broad coalition, so what. that there are different options, but definitely, there are certain ones , i would say the alarm bells are related to the fact that the war is dragging on, there is a certain fatigue from the war in parts of the societies in the west, in parts of the politicians, so i think that we need to slightly change tactics with our partners, not just to demand from them, but to actively interact with civil society, with various political forces, with their governments countries focusing on their interests in the first place, that is why such changes in tactics, i think, may be appropriate now, well , you see, they say that slovakia can become a second hungary in that sense, and i will remind you, orbán has one of his sayings there that hungary's goal is to localize the conflict, while the western world is trying to globalize it, it may
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really be that slovakia will express the same rhetoric, look, why not...' slovakia said, prime minister, maybe prime minister if he becomes prime minister, fizo, if he becomes the prime minister, yes, he can become the new orbán, but i will remind the story of orbán, another deterrent to such risks, such potential problems, orbán, who never came out of his pro-russian views and critical attitude to ukraine, this is a long-standing story, when he constantly put forward various demands to us, actually demanding autonomy for the hungarian minority. and control, you know, such a special status for hungarians in ukraine, so i would say that it is unacceptable for us, especially in the current conditions, yes, the rights of national minorities, and to things, the hungarians in ukraine have, i think, the largest amount of rights and informal autonomy that no other national minorities have, literally, but
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orban, with all his peculiarities, he was forced to support the first packages of sanctions. against russia and to support macroeconomic assistance to ukraine, only from the ninth package did he start trading and so on. and i think that brussels always finds important influences on orbán. the situation will be exactly the same with slovakia. let's chat, because it's really interesting, not yet points here in this matter, a government is really being formed in slovakia. thank you for participating and explaining what is happening in the usa and europe, in particular with the support of ukraine. volodymyr fasenko, a ukrainian political scientist, was a guest of svoboda ranok. in the meantime, ukrainian intelligence disclosed the details of the barynya special operation, as a result of which it was possible to recruit a high-ranking russian soldier. gur said that it is about the lieutenant of the russian army, danylo alfiov, who applied to the project i want to live, and since june of this year worked for the armed forces of ukraine. in addition, they say in intelligence, alfiov convinced and
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voluntarily transported 11 servicemen of the russian army to captivity in several parties. when there was a threat to alfiov's life, ukraine carried out a special operation on his controlled exit to ukrainian territory. andriy yusov, representative of gur, told about it. alorov himself, during an organized intelligence, intelligence press conference, said that after entering the territory of ukraine, he went through all the necessary procedures provided for the military of the russian federation, which surrendered, and the russian soldier also said that he was a graduate of the moscow higher military command school. al alorov confesses... that he, in fact, also, he did not want to fight, and he himself spoke against the war, from the very beginning, the unit in which he fought was governed according to the principle of assault squads, which consisted of prisoners, he was there the only personnel officer, i will note that we cannot check all these statements and this information in the conditions of war, and the only source of information here is
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the main intelligence agency. i will also remind you that in august of this year, the ukrainian special services announced the successful conduct of a special operation called tit, when a russian mi-8 helicopter, flown by russian pilot maksym kuzminov, landed at one of the airfields of ukraine. the russian side did not publicly comment on the transfer of the pilot to the side of ukraine and the transfer of the russian helicopter to ukrainian territory, and on our broadcast at that time the representative of ukrainian intelligence, andriy yusov, stated that after a successful special operation sinytsia, the number of russian servicemen who want to surrender as prisoners within the framework of the khachuzhit project has increased from andriy yusif, a representative of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, joins our broadcast now, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i really want to hear the details . special operation baren, how long was it planned and implemented? the operation lasted four months from the moment when representatives of the main
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intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine attacked lieutenant alfiov. yes, ukrainian, ukrainian special services, in particular intelligence, collects information about contract workers, about forcibly mobilized , about personnel soldiers and drew attention to the fact that there was a person who, being a personnel soldier, voluntarily resigned from the ranks of the russian army, and in fact most likely was forcibly mobilized, or forced to sign a contract, in the end it turned out that way, alferov turned out to be a person with a civil position, who from the beginning condemned the criminal war and aggression of russia against ukraine and did not want to join the ranks of the armed forces, but was actually forced to do so, and his... there was a significant component in his actions, this is exactly his position, and yes, during four months, important information was transferred for the ukrainian
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security and defense sector, which became valuable for the preservation the lives of our defenders and for exposing and disrupting the enemy's plan, and during this period, alfororov, together with and in coordination with ukrainian intelligence officers, were able to convince and transfer 11 more russian servicemen voluntarily into ukrainian captivity, indeed, after when he himself began to succumb to pressure and was tied to a tree for a day , well, it became clear that his continued stay in the ranks of the russian federation would not end in anything good for his life, and a decision was made about his controlled withdrawal, and in the end this operation was successfully completed, we promised, and general bohdanov, after the operation... the tit told that there were several more similar stories and projects and operations in the works, this is actually one of them, they tied him to a tree, he told at the press conference that he was started
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to suspect how he still managed to escape, eh , they began to suspect, it is a cyclical process there, but after all, he is an officer and in relation to others, the suspicions or torture were much greater, that is , he dis- he told that one of officers, were tied up for four days, and in his case, in field conditions, it all had such a chaotic and uncontrolled character, that is , it was not actually work on him personally in the framework of cooperation with the ukrainian special services. and how did he manage to convince these 11 military armies of the russian federation, which he was able to withdraw from the russian army under the khachuzhit program? after each such criminal order on assault actions, the invaders were large enough, with 200 dead liquidators and wounded, and actually five, who tried to escape to the territory deep into
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the territory of the russian federation, but stopped and were even neutralized, shot by their own barricades, for these reasons people who kept some deposits of critical thinking, who either did not want to become... war criminals, or were simply ready to save their lives, understanding that there is only one further prospect, it is either death, or the continuation of this constant abuse within the russian army, well, or severe injuries and it is not known how it will end, that is why there are people who agreed, these 11 russian servicemen as part of the project barenya through khochuzhyt, got to ukrainian captives, some of them want to return to russia as part of the exchange, and we will have such an opportunity, because these people are under the protection of the geneva conventions. alfrov noted that after proper checks he can join the ranks of the armed forces forces of ukraine to fight against putin 's regime and eventually live in normal
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russia, what checks has he already passed, is he currently in the process, is he considered a prisoner of war, does he have any special conditions? he is considered a person who voluntarily went over to the side of ukraine, refusing to carry out criminal orders, and formally, having been caught as a prisoner, he is now going through all the procedures in order to be already in a different status, ukrainian legislation actually allows this, checks began immediately after the beginning operations, and it is clear that they continue to this day, these are complex things, among which, in particular, the polygraph and many other points, of course, this is taken extremely seriously, but if you just look from the side of what has already passed and what risks, and these are are literally connected with risks for his own life, he repeatedly went, well, we can say that he has already passed some important checks, can he be a double agent?
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well, this is a logical question and you should always keep it in your head and practice these scenarios for this, in particular, and this set of inspection measures is taking place, specialists are working for this with appropriate advanced methods within the framework of ukrainian and international legislation, but i will once again confirm that 11 servicemen in the army from the russian army have already surrendered to ukrainian captivity as part of this operation, samel fororov could have died and it was really dangerous, given that he himself expressed a desire for publicity, returning to russia is extremely problematic for him, so everything points to the fact that his actions are enough conscious mr. andrii, what about his relatives, are they in russia, or have they left, are they in danger? well, to all citizens of the russian federation,
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as well as to other persons who are in the territory. of this entity, while the putin regime is in power, of course, something threatens, and yes, alfiov has left in russia, his mother and brother, and it is clear that they have nothing to do with his actions, with his decision, with this operation, and also i would like to clarify, and are there any statistics on which of the russian military most applies for the i want to live program to the ukrainian parties, are there military personnel there, or are they mobilized, recently, who do not want. to fight, we are mostly talking about the mobilized, if it is about the rank and file, but of course there are also many different situations for the personnel, here the statistics, if we say failure, then yes, the rank and file sergeants are also mobilized. also, mr. andriy, i want to clarify with you, why is the name of the bar like that, will you not reveal the secrets of the gur, if you tell about it, no, we will have more news and transactions with interesting names that
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are related to each other there. certain logic legends, so we can talk about it later, that is, it is an internal story, but is there already a response, in particular from the place where alfrov served, from the russian military, who have already seen it, well, if they have already learned that he escaped, that this is all , it is the specification of the ukrainian intelligence department, is there any reaction, it is known that checks are ongoing there and they are working on the spot, in particular representatives of the fsb, are checking, here after such high-profile operations, whether there is a chance that it is more difficult for the russian military, especially in such rank, will it somehow be more difficult for this one the program to get out of the russian ranks from the russian ranks to the ukrainian side, and what could be more difficult, well, instead of two chekists, put five chekists around each officer or serviceman, it will not change anything in essence, in the russian army it is possible, and such draconian laws in relation to, mobile phones are taken away, the ban on using various
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applications, and many other restrictions, that is, everything that can be done to limit the actions, thoughts of a person, they have already done, but even in these difficult conditions, in the conditions of the modern world, but not less, the one who wants to get a choice, the one who does not want to become a war criminal, who wants to preserve his honor and his life, has such an opportunity, ukraine provides such an opportunity, and ensures that a safe, controlled transition, surrender takes place into captivity and further as desired, or remain in ukraine, or... wait for an exchange or wait for the end of hostilities, that is, there are options, all this is within the limits of international law and the geneva convention, thank you for joining, told about the special operation , andriy yusov, representative of the main administration intelligence of the ministry of defense of ukraine, was a guest of svoboda ranok. news and analytics are on our air every weekday from 9 here on youtube , on the radio liberty channel, my name is kateryna nekrecha, me and our entire team, we wish you a peaceful day, see you tomorrow.
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greetings, espresso news, kateryna shirokpoyas works with you in the studio. powerful explosions are heard in kherson in the morning. the army of refia renewed the shelling of the regional center. this was announced by the head of the kherson city administration, roman mruchko. authorities urge everyone to stay in shelters. and through the night shelling of kherson injured a mother and two children. a shell hit their house. a fire broke out there. a 13-year-old girl.

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