that is, part of this problem is corruption, but only part. resource management depends directly on the quality of country management. that is, and obviously for us it is necessary first of all. therefore, it seems to me that we should still transfer this dialogue to existing institutional platforms. ukraine-usa strategic partnership commission. it worked out that penny pritzker with her recovery assistance office, an inspector came, the one who is now appointed as the former inspector general of the pentagon, that is, we should remove this issue, and it should be heard in america corruption is not the word, the national interests of the united states are in stopping russian aggression and attempts to destroy the world order, that is, unfortunately , i can state that recently

it has become more difficult for us to do this, because russia is creating its own parallel reality and many in the united states support the idea, what is called america first, first of all, everything goes to america, and i will frankly say that there work, well, less has started to be carried out in individual states, everything is concentrated in washington, and what texas thinks, what alabama thinks, it is more difficult now, i i think ours should be there. and people's deputies, and even more importantly, volunteers, those people who traveled earlier, lobbied for the interests of ukraine, there are volunteers who came from the war, or anti-corruption activists, why do i say women, because objectively, we now rely more on women there in foreign such trips, so i believe that our intensity of work is precisely in the field of such a solution. it is necessary to raise it as much as possible, plus

work with those who, for political reasons , use this situation, but with them it is necessary to to cooperate directly, not in order to convince them there, they are unlikely to be convinced, but in order for them to be in the eyes of the american voters, to be perceived positively, this is our lever, because in general the american people continue to support ukraine , providing weapons to ukraine, that is why we need to work now in individual states , in districts, where there are voters who can send letters to congress, so that their congressman or senator votes correctly, this is our mechanism now, and it goes beyond the framework of capitalist contempt, well continuing the topic of the united states of america , we have a few minutes, but i may have time to put one more, but it is also important, i am a very influential businessman, and you can say.

the copper tycoon of the united states of america, mr. elon musk, just at this time, when such key issues are being resolved for ukraine, at this stage, and he posts a meme saying that there is a picture of president zelsky, i understand, before the elections long ago, he found it somewhere, and writes that it's like your face when you're not there for 5 minutes asked for billions for help, in ukraine , of course, they already answered, with memes after memes, but again, who is affected by such memes and in general similar, similar activities. this elon musk character? this affects the increase of attention to him, and accordingly to the social network x , as he called it, and absolutely does not affect his further decision, the mechanisms are wrong, it should not be letters, and in the ukrainian language, in the ukrainian language, i also do not i like that he directly insulted the president ukraine, yes, i don't like it. but i

know that if i write such an angry response to the mask on facebook, it will not do anything. two mechanisms: we have people who cooperate with him, in particular, mr. fedorov, the minister of information, and he has a direct contact, he should use it, especially since it was done against his president. and secondly, we have to find levers of ukraine's influence on the space industry. i have already suggested which ones. we have mechanisms and where we can turn political activity into a constructive direction of discussion about it opportunities for a large number of satellites in orbit, so our response now should be asymmetric, there is no need to compete in the number of memes or something , you know, able to draw worse than each other, there is no need to act on him these things, he provokes.

this is his style, he draws attention to himself, the answer , i told you, can be different, i don't want everything, all the nuances, but i hope our authorities know this, and finally, i cannot be asked about a historical event. for the first time outside the borders of the european union , such respectable people as the ministers of foreign affairs of the countries of the european union, they gathered in kyiv, please tell me, in addition to the symbolic meaning, the practical meaning of such a meeting, well, we will see it later, it is being discussed for 4 years of financing in the amount of 15 billion, but if you can call it symbolic, but it is very important message, this is really the first such event of all, the council of ministers in this case. of foreign affairs in kyiv, and this is such a very serious message that the eu is determined to see ukraine inside the union, and not outside, this is a very serious message in the conditions when russia

is trying to spread the narrative that the ukrainian people will be abandoned, ukraine will be abandoned, this is very important now, so i would not belittle this message, practical things, this is the opening of ukraine-eu negotiations after the report already this year, but will it happen somewhere ? we will see later. thank you for your comments. thank you for joining. valery chaly, a diplomat , was in touch with us, they discussed, well, to a greater extent, the issues of the united states of america, and mentioned that the ministers of foreign affairs of the european union countries had gathered in kyiv. there, the minister of foreign affairs of the federal republic of germany, anna lena berbock, said a very cool phrase that the european union will be from lisbon to luhansk. in this way, she trolled the secretary of the security council of the russian federation. dmitry medvedev, who said that russian world will come to lisbon, no, it will be the other way around, now serhii zgorets, the director of the defense agency and the host of the military summary of the day column, are with us, sergey, i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers, i want your wise , your wise comment on a very important topic, former minister

of defense of great britain, ben vole said, he advised president zelski to slightly change his approach to mobilization, to recruit more young people, as he said, 20-year-olds , because putin is currently recruiting in russia, the arrival continues, he recruits young people, we have an average age of military personnel in the forces of defense for 40 years, well, firstly, should former ministers give such advice, well, despite great respect for them, and secondly, is the issue of age really the key here? well, i think that hardly any minister, of a foreign country or a former one, has minister to give advice on such things that directly come out of our country's own policy on mobilization, and here i rather discussed the fact that it is necessary to better ... prepare, choose the right place for each potential mobilized member of the armed forces, and this will affect the activities of the armed forces are more effective than certain age indicators, although i understand that it is really much more difficult to be an attack fighter at 50 than to be one at 20

or 25, so i think that our military understands these nuances and determines the capabilities of each age category, each a specific specialist in battle order, so i think, here we hardly need foreign advice, but we really need foreign help from britain, as well as instructors who train our military. well, about what we will talk about in our military column today, it is about the good work of our intelligence and the good work of our drones and about the training of ukrainian pilots on f-16s in a conversation with one of our officers from the first group, who are studying on these long-awaited planes in our sky, and about projects of foreign... companies that are ready to cooperate with ukraine in the creation of new types of weapons, about all this in a moment. so, i'll start with the good news that the main

intelligence directorate of the ministry of defense of ukraine confirmed today that on october 1 , an attack was made on the smilensk aviation plant in russia, which manufactures missiles that the occupiers use for terrorist attacks on ukraine. as noted in the main intelligence report, a total of four strike drones were launched at the enterprise, three of them hit the target and reported significant damage to the production facilities of the smelensky aviation plant. this plant, by the way, is located up to 300 km from the border of ukraine and is part of the tactical missile arms corporation , which... manufactures, in particular, kh-59 missiles of various modifications, the message says, that is, the main intelligence agency fixes our priorities, that's right destruction of ppotivnik facilities, military facilities on the territory of the aggressor's country, facilities

of the enemy's defense and industrial complex countries, and objects that are related to the military-political and political leadership of this state, and we understand that, of course, now our...' aviation carries out active actions related to the shooting down of enemy drones, enemy cruise missiles, and we are now at a stage where...' we expect to strengthen our capabilities due to the arrival of new f16 multirole fighters. the decision to provide ukraine with these fighter jets of the nato countries was made in august 23 against the background of the visit of president volodymyr zelenskyi to denmark and of the netherlands and now the pilots of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine are already undergoing training abroad to master these multifunctional fighters. f-16 and now we have a unique opportunity to talk to one of the officers who is already

undergoing the training process on these fighters, this is a combat pilot with the call sign monfish, mr. officer, welcome to the live channel, nice to see and hear and see you also, first of all, i would like from the viewers of our channel, i would like to thank in your person all the air forces that are currently are doing a tremendous job in protecting our country against an enemy that has more aircraft in the air and aircraft that are technically superior to those models we have, so your skill is really amazing and i would like to thank you for such tremendous work you and your fellows are doing, and now i would like to ask a few questions because before this interview i asked my colleagues at defense express what things... i would like to hear from you and what we found, well, we watched the training of the american army,

pilots, it turns out that, relatively speaking, the entire cycle for american pilots, starting with the planning of theoretical training, simulators and combat training at the first stage takes a total of nine months, the question arises, how much time is allocated to your group of pilots to master the f16 aircraft? we hope to acquire an f16 aircraft in a period of 6-8 months, we will do this due to the fact that, a, all the pilots who came and will potentially be retrained on the f16 aircraft have combat experience, already have control experience fighter jets both on a small scale and on the fact that the training program is a little bit tailored for our needs, taking into account the combat experience, taking into account the type of missions that we typically ... now perform and that we will be able to perform according to this with new aviation

equipment. and at what stage are your training process now, is it possible to say that in a week or two you will have such first flights with instructors in the cockpit of the f16. that's how you can talk about it. and when you first got into a fighter jet f16, maybe even in the simulator format, which i think is not fundamentally different from the combat cockpit of a real fighter. er, what was the thing that surprised you the most, or, let's say, is this plane easier for a person compared to the fighter, the mig-29, that you fought on? well, the first thing that comes to mind is that, of course , especially with regard to the avionics and weapons systems of the f16 aircraft, comparing it with the mig-29 aircraft, then of course the mi-29 is an aircraft, in this sense, from the last millennium. and it very immediately rushes into

eyes, the presence of multifunctional displays, the presence, the presence of input equipment, for working with an on-board computer, which, by the way, is very demanding, by the way, a demanding part of the pilot's work in general, well, that's the main thing, of course, it's impressive, and it's a little bit like that, what can i predict... that will be the main main difficulty, in the end the plane is very comfortable, very interesting position and in general the feeling of the pen control of the plane, but the cockpit, quite cramped, but it is very ergonomically worked out, in fact, if you fly-in, you just wear it like a glove, like a briefcase on your shoulder and also perform tasks, very comfortably, as i understand it, you have such, well, significant combat experience. on the 29th, and then the question arises, don't these past skills

, which have been trained to automatism, become such a definite obstacle to switching to an airplane with a different control logic, with a different metric system, doesn't your past experience get in the way? well, i wouldn't say that it prevents, first of all, old experience tends to be forgotten over time, over months, that's the first thing, but secondly, the fact that the boys and i... we practiced a lot in such a place that is accessible to the general public, with simulators, so to speak, or complexes that can be used, we will come, coming here, we all understand very well, what is the difference between working with a sight and working with weapons, how to work approximately, enter data into the on-board computer and so on, personally

, i don’t see a big problem there, from meters to feet, from kilometers to miles, from kilometers per hour to knots , there will be some warehouses. at work, at work in ukraine, but again, i don't see such big obstacles in this , you can learn from all this, we know that most likely we will get f16, that is, the mlu version, middle life update, that is, relatively speaking, it is in 16 there is clock 5052 and the question arises, what are the capabilities of this version of the machine in terms of target detection, target destruction, compared to those samples, in particular the su-35th, which are the enemy's main combat machine, what can we do with this version of our f16 in compared to the aggressor plane? well, a very big advantage of the mlu f16 fighter is that it

the integration of its weapons complex, the data exchange system between aircraft. and compared to the fighter jets you mentioned, it's definitely something i find the f16 is a little better protected, i'm sure, in terms of missile armament and sight, about on par, or in some respects the 16th is better, i.e. we can talk about the fact that from the point of view of target detection and target destruction, we can ensure pe... not parity with the f-16 of that model and with the su-35 in those weapons, with those weapons that it the enemy uses it in battle. i think so, in complexes with such a defense complex of the b16 aircraft, it can be made the only such significant, essential advantage of the enemy will remain, of course, their overwhelming number.

and when we talk about the list of weapons for the f-16, do you have confidence that we will really get these amram missiles in the versions there, c and d, and in particular, will we get, in a language, cruise missiles for this machine? i'm not ready to answer the question yet, even if i could, i'm struggling to answer it, i know it's a work in progress, my task at this stage and my boys, it's to master the plane, but the third stage of your training is precisely to master the weapons, right? you can't go through flight training without mastering weapons, otherwise you'll have an understanding of what weapons are most likely to be transferred, so that's basically the immediate prospect, but we're just not talking about it, absolutely, when we're talking about the capabilities of the f16 aircraft, is interaction with the avax aircraft necessary for the most effective

use of these aircraft on the battlefield, it was ... desirable, of course, the aircraft is built in general, the entire system of such an air force, of course, is built on interaction with drelv aircraft. but even without it, with the available means at our disposal, it will be possible to perform tasks with much greater efficiency than we currently have the opportunity to do. does your team have pilots who previously served on the su-27 instead of the mig-29. and what do you think about the fact that we definitely need a heavy fighter, an f-15 type fighter. yes, among us there are little ones who are equal, among us there are enough many guys who flew before that on the so-27, uh, yes, of course, the f15 fighter is a very good combat machine, but oh, and it is

probably enough for a girl, since the territory of ukraine is enough. it is not small, why is it for us, maybe it would be more suitable, but oh , the f15 fighter, if we are talking about the ts model, about the model of the fighter, and not the fighter-bomber, after all, this machine is sharpened more for work on air targets, we need such a swiss army knife, which is the f16, f16, yes, it has a radius much smaller than the f-15 plane, but still it can perform the entire range of tasks. which ones that rely on aviation in the west at all, uh, are there f-16 technicians training somewhere at this time, so to speak, when you graduate. technical personnel were also ready to ensure symbiosis associated with the use of machine maintenance. that's right, it would be very unwise to send trainees

without technical personnel, everyone is studying. and can you be instructors after you return to ukraine from the point of view of providing certain stages of training specifically in ukraine, or in any case we will have to use training centers outside of ukraine? i think. which will have to be used by training centers outside ukraine, maybe i am wrong, of course, but of course they are, we are thinking about it , we are discussing it, because we plan to build a fairly strong and significant fleet of these fighters, even compared to some of our neighboring countries, so we have such the question of how to ask and solve, the most important thing, of course, and in the case of receiving these aircraft in our arsenal, what are the typical tasks for the first priority will have to be decided on the f-16, this is more a task of air defense or work on ground targets.

it is difficult for me to say now, since, again , so far we have not had such a universal, as i have already called, a swiss army knife in our arsenal, as far as combat aviation is concerned, i think it is roughly equivalent, the v16 aircraft has a very large potential and significant opportunities for work on ground targets, especially with regard to air support for the actions of troops, forces, and of course, this will significantly expand the work on air targets, against cruise missiles, against enemy helicopter fighters, it is difficult to compose , it is difficult to tell me personally now, but i think that it will be roughly equal to the task, the task with air defense and the task of working on ground targets. mr. officer, thank you very much for these explanations for the time that you found for our viewers and i would like to remind our viewers that this was an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a combat pilot with the call sign, who is currently undergoing training to master f-16 fighters with the first group of our pilots and hopefully after a certain run

in time, these aircraft will appear in our skies to protect our airspace more effectively . but in addition to the transfer of fighters, of course, our defense capabilities must be based on the fact that we make new products, new. both independently and together with our partners, and last week, as we know, such an important, powerful , loud, but somewhat confidential international defense industry forum took place in kyiv, its participants were more than 250 companies from 30 countries that manufacture the entire possible range of weapons , ranging from tanks, artillery, drones, ammunition, software, all the necessary techno , our ukrainian defense companies and defense tech startups were also involved, that is, all key companies really took part in this event, and the question arises, what are the consequences

and main conclusions of this powerful international forum, if we are talking about those declarations that were made by our highly respected persons in the state leadership, and now we are joined by pavlo verhnyatskyi, he is the director and manager: the ukrainian partner of the kosa company, co-coordinator of the security and aerospace working group, american-ukrainian business council, mr. pavle, welcome to the air, thank you very much for taking the time to speak with our viewers. this powerful international forum of defense industries was held in kyiv last week, the president announced the creation of an alliance of defense industries, and so it was said. that such a basic declaration has been developed as the basis of the alliance and

that weapons and equipment manufacturers from all over the world can join it i was a little alarmed because , relatively speaking, in my opinion, business partners usually assume that ukraine needs certain types of weapons, certain plans, certain financing, and new alliances and new interactions are actually created for this, how about you? do you appreciate the event itself and this invitation to such a new alliance? in my opinion, the event itself was quite powerful, there was really a good representation of the international community, defense companies, key leaders, so not everyone was able to come to someone there with their policies, on security and so on, but there were actually many companies, and regarding, let's say, declarations. i would say that this is quite a political step, a good political step, it does not have, in my opinion,

immediate... any practical solutions, but at least this, such a call of the president, regarding joining partnerships, within the framework of ukrainian, ukrainian defense industry, and, let's say, taking into account the fact that most projects in this field are currently being carried out individually, yes, no one works at the same time, but there is some kind of community, that is, all these projects, as they went, and will go individually, because they have a lot of technical nuances, peculiarities , secrecy, and so on, and to join

such an alliance... it certainly does not oblige anyone, let's say, in anything, well, there is a certain declaration there, but it is quite general, as far as i understand, from what i have heard, and i would probably connect it to some extent with the second statement of the president, about the initiative to create a special defense fund, which will be aimed at supporting the ukrainian defense industry or the defense industry , in in the middle of ukraine, that is, as far as i understood the statements again, these can be partner international projects, to which this money from this fund can be directed, which still needs to be created, so maybe, maybe, this alliance will be somehow connected with the foundation, that is, who works in the alliance, or who joined the alliance, will

be able to expect some or may be somehow related to this foundation, but this is my assumption for today. mr. pavle, just before the forum, you held one of your own forum, which was such, well, the premise of the biggest event, where there were meetings with american companies, with european companies, and actually just your company first of all, well, it is clear what exactly foreign companies want, which were the conclusions related to the initiative american european companies in your event? yes, it was such an informal, let's say, event, more like a reception than a forum, although it was attended by the minister of strategic industries, industry, and salt of the

united states, and the secretary of the national security council, other colleagues, and, we in such a, let's say, free environment, they discussed certain prospects, they could hear from the company, and what they hope for, what they count on, here they could talk with ukrainian companies, which we also invited on the eve of the main forum to this event, and you know i see quite a lot of optimism, that is, companies... are really looking for partnerships, this is probably the first thing that comes to mind, that is, they are looking for someone to cooperate with here on earth, because everyone understands that there is no point in coming here independently, and then - the second, well, everything is created with yes zero, and secondly, there is an excellent understanding that there are specialists here, there are specialists, there is a certain technological base that can be improved and

on which something can be built together, so i would say that our event was held under such a slogan, then the spirit of partnership was definitely felt, yes, that is, people looked closely at each other, asked, something, that is, this is already, this is already not bad, and let's say, they shared real, real ideas, with your permission i will not everything, to tell from the point of view of security and privacy there, but to me i like that people come with ideas and here they are supported by some local experience. mr. pavle, thank you very much for the inclusion, i think that we have issues that we did not have time to discuss today, we will discuss them in our next inclusions, i will remind our viewers that pavlo verkhnyatsky was on the air, this is the director: