no, we must first of all hate russia and destroy russia, and it will be so. mr. yevhen, i thank you very much for your participation in the world during the war, thank you very much for your as always professional answers and comments, it was yevhen magda, the director of the institute of world politics, they talked mostly about eastern european, eastern european politics that concern ukraine. yes, now we have to go to a short commercial break, after that we come back, i introduce my next guest and we continue the world at war. the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. victories and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics, serhii rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this. people who own information and shape society. opinion, people defending ukraine

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ukraine, the strengthening of russia's influence, and or your option, just write in the comments, i will after the program to read your thoughts. so, my next guest is oleksandr kraev, an expert at the ukrainian prism foreign policy council. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you and glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, i congratulate you. mr. oleksandr, well, let's talk about the shutdown, about the american shutdown. as for me personally, you know, i am you. i am calling in order to talk about everything in detail, because you know much more than me, i read something, i know, but i want to ask you, from what i read, for example, about the shutdowns last year, there a few years ago, there was excitement, there was some unrest, and what will happen, i remember, last year you and i talked about it on the air, and last year you also said that they would sit down to the end, pull to the last, they will sit down at the end, they will agree, but this year i got the impression that, well, this year

somehow looks more serious, what do you say , this year is really more serious and there are many reasons for that, well, first of all, we see that we have formed, i wouldn't even want to say a group, a certain clique of trumpists, which they are trying to disrupt the work of the government, the work of the parliament for one simple reason: they are trying to persecute their leader, their idol, and we see that, unfortunately, they are succeeding so far, because just last year before the elections, when after all... were able to avoid the same shutdown adequate, and before the election we didn't have kevin mccarthy, we didn't have a speaker who is completely controlled by trumpists. we have not yet had such a difficult situation with internal fragmentation in both parties, which appeared just before the election, that is, a lot of factors coincided, which made it possible for this active, aggressive anti-ukrainian minority to impose its opinion in a certain way and coordinate the work of the american parliament, and that is why we now have such a situation, from which, as we can see, both

the democrats and an adequate part of the republicans and the white house had to come out with certain concessions, with certain agreements, with these anti-ukrainian radicals, well, look, they now have a temporary budget, they agreed, in 45, well, not 45 days, less, 42 days, probably in 42 days they will face this problem again, the question of the budget of the united states of america for next year, this is your vision, this is what, what can happen in that time, in fact, now with the information that we have, they managed to agree, that is, the white house and an adequate part of the congress managed to agree with the republicans , who were against this budget, that in this interim budget the aid to ukraine for 6 billion is deleted, in return for the fact that they will vote almost unchanged for the aid that will be mainly budget, that is, conditionally, they exchanged our larger budget in exchange for concessions to the trumpists, and what will the situation be in the future, in principle, for

those congressmen who joined the trumpists, for those who doubted that ukraine should increase aid, or give it in the interim budget, well, their requests were fulfilled, in the interim budget this aid is not available, it is taken from the military budget into a separate bill and accordingly , nothing will prevent them from voting adequately for the full budget for the 24th year. if talk about the trumpists, yes, they will argue, they will try to hold back this vote as well, they will try to break the cards and break this whole situation for everyone else, but they will no longer have the support of that half of the party, half of the house of representatives, which was before this, i.e. successfully... come to an agreement with an adequate part of the opposition, the inadequate component will simply not have enough votes. unfortunately, they still have the ability to pressure the speaker, kevin mccarthy, because he essentially owes his position to them and depends on their votes. but now they have much less levers for pressure,

that is, this agreement that the congress and the white house entered into with the opposition, it basically does not give the trumpists, the trumpists a normal chance to continue this opposition in the future. it's simple for them. there will be support, look, i can’t understand the position of this pro-trump minority, which is pressing, which we can now say, is conducting this entire orchestra of adopting the budget, please tell me, and what, well, what was the reason to argue about passing assistance to ukraine from the country's budget in a separate article, what does this change, there will still be help to ukraine later, of course there will be, but you understand, at this stage the trumpists need to show their strength, that is, there are far fewer of them than conservatives in the republican party, compared to the entire number of congressmen in the us parliament, their in general, they are small, there are very few of them, but they need to show their strength , they need to show that they can still influence

politics, they need to show that they can stand up for trump's ideas, that they can stand up for trump himself, and that they can to provoke, shutdown, they can provoke the stoppage of all... government work, and what is it for them? well, first of all, in this way they can attract donors to their side, they can show that they can still be invested in, because they actually influence politics, they can attract voters to their side, because they can supposedly push through some decisions, they can once again influence the congress, for them this is absolutely a political game, it's just that ukraine has become one of those tools that they were able to use, because it is necessary here and now to say that there were other issues besides ukraine. there was a question about the legalization of abortion and the allocation of money from the military budget so that it would be part of the medical insurance of military personnel. there was a question about redirecting money to the southern border and protecting the southern border, and by the way, this was their main argument, why should we pay some ukraine for 5000

miles, and at the same time we cannot hold our own border, that is, the trumpists have singled out a whole series of such tools , with which they can press to the parliament, and for them it's just flying. history, it is not a question of ideology or a question of any specific goals, they had to show strength, it even seems to me that this is not just pressure on the parliament, but it is some kind of blackmail of the parliament from the fact that it turns out like this, well, in fact, it is, this is straightforward and very rude, i would say blackmail, that we are ready to destroy the system of government just so that you listen to us, well, it is strange, of course, but let's now say two words about the landlist, it ends today, i wanted to say the deadline actions, not the expiration date, well, the expiration date, let's say, let's call it this, the expiration date, please tell me what will happen next, what can be, because in the wildland lease, he, you once told me that this is such a bailout stick for the trumps, i'm sorry, not for trump, but for

joe biden, in the event that the congress does not approve the aid to ukraine, he did not use it at all during all this time , now he will not be there, well, in fact , there is no need for him right now, well, because we are already fighting for the budget, that is, to begin with, we need to knock out the budget, which, if what can be used with this lendlease, well , plus, you see, you and i have explained how this political weighing, the political ones, takes place in general. he is now in america, and at this moment, throw another idea there, and let us in ukraine sign a loan, well , this means putting our budget under attack, it means starting again these long negotiations with the trumpists, which may not end in anything good, so for now that the democrats and the majority of the republican party, they decided to postpone this issue, just first pass the budget, first pass the main procedures, and then take up the issue of lendlease, that is, in fact, what is most interesting, there are no such... strong contradictions, but it is clear to everyone that the trumpists do not need real contradictions in order to create a problem out of something, and

therefore, for now, congressmen simply do not risk this bill, so as not to lose it before time, well, i understand, this lendlis can become such a red rag in front of the eyes of the pro-trump majority, and therefore it is better not to wave it now, i can see well, i know you well understood, see in one, v to one of his own. posts in telegram, you voiced such an opinion, well, quite recently, trump wants to become a dictator, what did you mean, and he, he was driven, more precisely, into a corner, and therefore he begins to defend himself, for him defense is escalation, it is political escalation , well, remember trump in the 21st year, when the storming of the capitol took place on january 6, now the details are already being revealed, his communication with security, his communication with advisers, he wanted to introduce martial law, he wanted to bring troops into the street to deter

people, he wanted to declare a presidential republic, he wanted to give himself full powers of the judiciary, he wanted to dismantle the supreme court as, as he said, an anti-present, anti-trump structure, and then he saw that there were about 10-15, unfortunately , almost 25% of trump's nuclear electorate, who will be ready to support him and come out with weapons in their hands, to defend him, and he returns to those. this is a thesis, he recently stated that for the fact that mark miley was negotiating with china, during his this great protest, he would be needed to execute, and he said that he had signed such a decree for the execution of mark milley. he also said that, in principle , the state does not need any independent press, continuing his thesis that all information, all news can be taken directly from the president, well, you remember how many tweets he made, how many speeches , that is, trump actually suffers from these dictatorial... diseases, he suffers from the desire to be like putin, no matter how strange it sounds, well, because in his eyes, in the eyes of a political dilettante,

dictatorship is the simplest system, you alone you decide, you command everyone, you are so cool, good, and no one can condemn you, and trump would prefer to see such a united states under his leadership, he would prefer to work in such an almost putin system, because it is very simple for him, but is this possible, given such a serious system of checks and balances in american law? in fact it is impossible, in fact the system has done everything in its power to restrain trump, that is, no one forbids him to dream, no one can undo what he can think of any system, any dictatorship, but we have the department of defense, we have the intelligence services, we finally have the congress and the supreme court, they really have all the years of trump's presidency and right now they are restraining he and his accomplices are restrained from really implementing such a system terribly, but still, these very trends, that we still have several percent of people in american society who consider trump the savior of the motherland, who

consider his truth as the last resort, well this is still a problem, we still have to understand that trump has created this cult of personality and he has created a ticking time bomb for american society. let's close the trump thread now, i just remembered that i read this morning that trump is scheduled to appear in one of the courts in new york on one of the criminal cases today, us time, east coast time, that were launched against him, please tell me, he is starting to use these criminal cases in full, that's him immediately stated that i will, because i want to be there, to prove that i am not guilty, he then continues to use it as some kind of, i don't know, circus for himself, for his own benefit, he tries, and what is interesting, we see that just a few days after his case, the rating increases a little, he still portrays this image of a political martyr, he creates

an image of himself suffering for the truth, but in a strategic perspective this harms him, after all, trials do not happen just like that, this is not a show court, it is real pre-trial investigations have been going on for more than a year, evidence is being collected, there was work by special commissions, congress, in order to determine his guilt, there was work with witnesses, with everyone else, and in fact, each subsequent case adds less and less bonuses to him and vice versa against this background, the anti-rating is growing simply geometrically , that is, we know that more than half of his support is from...' will fall away as soon as he is handed the first sentence, well, the first sentence in a political case, so actually, temporarily, yes, he has some informational success, but on a strategic level, well, these things will eventually bury him politically, if you say, look, i was already thinking of finishing with trump, but you made an interesting point, more than half of the people who support him will fall away , if more than half

of the people who support him within the republican party drop out, they should understand that this person should not be nominated. the only candidate from god's own party in the presidential election, and they understand it, they understand it perfectly, but they don't have ultimate responsibility for this, after all, the decision about who the party will nominate will be made by ordinary voters, not even the electoral college, it will be made during the primaries, and other candidates in the republican party, as the previous debates showed, they finally got where there is the courage to oppose trump , they can finally officially declare that yes, he is toxic, he is not useful for the party, he is dangerous for the party, but it is still up to the ordinary republican voter to decide, and in this there is a big problem for the party, because it is easy to convince the establishment, these people understand what is happening, but whether they will be able to convince ordinary americans in time, that is the main mystery, well, let's see, yes, for sure, we are finishing with

trump, although it is interesting with you always talk about him, look, today the ministers of e, foreign affairs, member states of the european union came to kyiv. it is obvious that , on the one hand, it is important for us, ah, well , it is demonstrably important, and what could be the practical consequences of this meeting in kyiv, in ukraine? well, first of all, let's not forget, we still have the issue with the grain, the issue with the poles, with the slovaks, with the romanians , with the hungarians, and what they meet... here it just means that they accept rather our side in this conflict, or at least the european commission is pushing its members, pushing foreign ministers to the point that we need to look at it from the ukrainian point of view, so we can hope that the issue with the grain, inland grain corridor will be

one of the key ones, and it is here that we will be able to see some progress in solving it, some progress, if only in the fact that we will agree until what moment these countries will keep their bans there, in order to then resume transit, this is the first, second , this is a very revealing aspect, because it was planned to at least set deadlines by the end of the year, when negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu begin, that is, when we will finally begin to fully use our candidacy, and therefore the fact that this is happening in kyiv, from the point of view from the point of view of classical diplomacy it is possible to be perceived as a very positive signal, that is, it will not just happen somewhere from brussels, they will tell us, but you did not fulfill, did not finish , everything will be bad for you, right in kyiv we will work out a plan, how it will happen, when, in what terms and for what conditions, i.e. the choice of kyiv as the place to hold this meeting now, this is a very good indicator for ukraine that there are, well, european structures ready to take our side and push their participants, members of the association, who are against ukraine in certain aspects, push to pro-ukrainian decisions, it's interesting, well,

let's watch how it all ends today, well, obviously the results will be at least after lunch, although already after... i did not see the results as such, let's listen to a short direct speech of the prime minister of estonia kai kallas, about what she said last week in tallinn, then i have a question for you. we all want this war to end, but it must end in a way that breaks the historic cycle of russian violence. any indecision fuels putin's imperial ambitions, the longer we wait and hesitate. then the price will be higher war president of ukraine zelsky very precisely put everything in its place. if our partners do not help us, they will help defeat russia. everything is simple here. to break the historical cycle of russian violence. this is understood in poland, this is understood in the baltic states. this is not well understood, recently, in particular further there, to the west. in your

opinion, can the civilized world, given these such. bad sentiments that are growing , to break this cycle, i really hope so, at least we have several, several important narratives pointing to this, well, first of all, the main ukrainian skepticism, the main anti-ukrainian theses are heard in the countries where elections are held, that is, they are not a certain narrative, they are part of the pre-election cycle, they are part of the pre-election politics, which we could not simply avoid, and you and i knew, we prepared for it . we understood that there would be such statements, there would be such aggressive in some ways, ukraine-skeptic anti-ukrainian rhetoric, and we could not get away from this, because this is part of the democratic processes in these states and in others. states, which are more or less stable political situation for the next year and a half, we see a completely different picture, we see that the french are much more decisively ready to help us, the last visit

of the minister of defense showed this perfectly. we see that in germany the whole of germany has already rallied against olaf scholz, trying to convince him to supply ukraine more and finally give ukraine tauruses. that is , we see that the course taken at the strategic and international level is very correct. yes, we have those who doubt, we have those countries that are still experiencing a misunderstanding of ukraine, lack of understanding of the consequences of this war, but the vast majority of them are already cured of this skepticism, and the main problems come from those countries where we have elections, well, these countries, they flow, these problems, or rather, they flow, that is, as soon as they are over elections in the same conditional poland, believe me, the negotiations on grain will be much more constructive, well, i really hope so, mr. oleksandr, as always, thank you very much for your participation in the world in time program oleksandr krayev, expert of the foreign policy council ukrainian prism, we talked with him more about western issues.

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the child was in the kherson region in the city of nova kakhovka, which is still occupied. maybe that's why the girl doesn't get in touch. that's why i really ask everyone who sees me to look carefully at nadiya's photo. remember this face. if anyone suddenly saw the girl or knows where she might be now, do not delay and call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number 1163. calls from any ukrainian mobile phone. operator is free, or write to the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram. and i would like to ask for a few minutes of your attention, i want to remind you that we are continuing the search for the missing boy and i really hope that thanks to the publicity and your concern , we will be able to find the teenager, whose name is aurelio gonsa. here in this photo he is with his mother, here they are happy and smiling.

family. in the city of voznesensk, mykolaiv region. when this photo was taken, the boy was still studying at school, talking and hanging out with friends, in other words, he lived the usual carefree life of a teenager, but in the summer of 2019, everything changed, the life of this family divided into before and after. on august 17, aurelio disappeared without a trace, that day he left the house for a walk and did not return, neither calls nor messages to relatives or friends, the guy simply disappeared. at first, relatives assumed. did he decide to leave home and what could have pushed him to such a step. however, to this day , there is no news from the boy, and it is not known where he is all this time. when the boy disappeared , his mother turned to us for help in the search. above all, the woman wants to know at least something about her son. let me remind you that the search boyfriend has been going on for more than three years. unfortunately,

so far to no avail, but... we sincerely hope that with your help we will be able to find the guy, or at least get some information about him. do not be indifferent, please look carefully at the photo, of course, a lot of time has passed since the disappearance. the guy could have changed, but note that aurelio is tall, about 180 cm. slim, with dark hair and brown eyes. of the special signs, there is a scar across the back. after surgery, so if possible you know where the boy may be there, please contact us on the short number 1163. our hotline is open 24/7, so if you know anything about aurelio gonsa, please let us know immediately, calls to the child tracing service hotline from all mobile operators free of charge and although aurelio disappeared in 2019, of course we

will continue to look for him, because really. do not lose hope. for more than 20 years of the existence of the child tracing service, there have been such cases when a missing child was found after a year , three, and even 10 years of searching, but the earliest the hours after disappearing are still the most effective. in such a situation , every minute can be decisive, so there is no need to delay. it was said that you have to wait three days to have the right to report the disappearance of a child. the police should be contacted immediately and urgently. you can also call magnolia's child tracing service. i have told you only two stories of missing children. in general, since the beginning of the war, we have received thousands of appeals for help in the search. now many children disappear in the frontline areas or in the occupation, but there are also many such cases in relatively peaceful towns and villages. fortunately, the vast majority of missing children are already in