[000:00:00;00] let's not forget why this is being done, to support the brave people in ukraine who are fighting for their freedom, for their democracy, this is what we want to continue to do, this is what the president wants to continue to see, and not only us, there are republicans and democrats in the congress, bipartisan support of people who want funding in ukraine to continue, ihor petrenko, political scientist, mr. ihor, is in touch with us. you, thank you for joining us at this time, and i want to ask right away, why these statements are not just empty words, why despite this historic shutdown that happened in the united states of america, and the subsequent resignation of the same mccarthy, which we will talk about later, does not mean that aid will be stopped, aid to ukraine, well,

mccarthy's resignation just happened. due to the fact that he did not allow it, there really are now 45 days, respectively, well, now it is a little less in the united states, in order to reach an agreement on voting yes for the annual budget, respectively, here, well, here are obviously several points, the weakest position mccarthy was, yes, when he was elected, since he agreed that at least one congressman could already initiate his resignation , and the vote we have is again a question of testimony... that, even before the election, yes, there, for more than a year, in of the united states of america, but there is already a struggle and an election campaign going on there, respectively, it is in the middle, and in particular, the ultra-right, yes, let's say these trumpists, the ones we call, they are quite so loud and use certain issues, in particular there are the issue of supporting ukraine in their own, respectively

for political purposes, well, this is the specificity of america's pre-election struggle, and we must be ready for this, ready, despite the fact that we maintain bipartisan support, bicameral support, that is, the majority of republicans, and almost accordingly all democrats, they support the provision of appropriate assistance to ukraine , that’s how it goes with their voters, yes, the latest sociological polls show quite high support in ukraine as a whole, in general, and by cross section, let’s say americans, by party, the situation there is a little different, and that’s it that's exactly what some representatives are playing, namely the republican party, but the fact that we now have a new package of appropriate assistance, those statements that came from the white house, those statements that came from representatives of both parties, as respectively in the congress and in the senate , they indicate that support will be provided to ukraine, and the fact that

they have not voted now, but about the allocation of... the amount that the white house requested, respectively, is simply a matter of certain political moments, when it was necessary to prevent a shutdown, and a shutdown would also not be very beneficial for ukraine, since it could negatively affect the training of our pilots, for the f16, that ’s why there was a certain stretch, let’s say, but again, immediately the statements that were made by biden and representatives again, of two parties, shows that just now a little more time will be needed to find a consensus on this issue, but once again it is necessary to understand that the issue of support for ukraine, even though it is a hostage of electoral, let's say processes, electoral cycle , which is now in the united states of america, it is still a priority in general for the united states of america, because on the one hand, it is clear to the democrats, the victory in ukraine, it is very

beneficial in terms of the fact that it is also a political issue that they can demonstrate to their voters, and the return of, let's say, the power of the united states, and the same goes for the republicans, because they will also want to build up, well, they also aim, respectively, at winning the elections, at expanding the influence of the united states of america, and now the united states is quite actively in many directions, not only in ukraine, respectively, that is why there is a certain basis from which we have to proceed accordingly, there are certain difficulties, but they can still be overcome and in general now and the rhetoric is just that and not only rhetoric concrete actions, in particular , the color package of aid is evidence of maintaining support for ukraine at a sufficient level. well, mr. igor, agree that there is a rather serious problem before the americans, because after the dismissal of mccarthy from the post of speaker of the house of representatives, instead of adopting the budget, they have it left there

about 40 days, so they will take. the search for a new candidate , by the way, this is the resignation, it will somehow affect ukraine in the future, besides the fact that time is wasted, not just to look for, in particular, money for help, including for us. well, in fact, i think that these will be parallel processes, well, you have to understand that for the same trumpists, for example, the shutdown is not a bad story, yes, it is such a peculiar, accordingly, revenge, we remember, yes, the last shutdown , long-term, which was there for more than a month, it was 18-19 years, just at the break, and now they want, well, let's say, but to make a loan accordingly , it's profitable for them, because again, this is a certain challenge that the biden administration will have to deal with, well, the democrats in general, well, what about these strumpets,

they will show that, look, they are not coping and so on, on the other hand, it must be understood that in general the shutdown is hitting the trust in the united states of america, among, say, creditors, and in general in this, say financial system, so this is generally a bad story for the united states america, although it is actually quite traditional, because there have been shutdowns since 1982, if i am not mistaken, there were 14 of them, well, that is , it is not something that comes into general practice, this is precisely a question of party political struggle, and now it is even more aggravated by the fact that the elections are just around the corner, and it is difficult for us. are that some united states politicians use ukrainian issues to gain their preferences, this is connected with certain moods of voters, in particular republicans, because trump also has his own

vision of supporting ukraine and says that he will finish there in two days , well, we have a corresponding appeal from president zelensky , tell us how you are going to do it, and the same landing party, he is quite like that, well, yes, probably negative in part ... providing support to ukraine, yes, well, there are also some candidates, well, pence, for example, no, he is absolutely, he has a different rhetoric, so there is a discussion there, but here is a sociological survey that i remember, there somewhere 70-something percent of republicans, they support such a let's say the opposite position, and the majority of the democrats are also there, i don't remember how many percent, but definitely somewhere around that or even more, they are in support of extending support to ukraine, respectively. therefore, you see, there are such discussions, and it is bad for us, on the other hand, we still have to work in absolutely all directions, and when the president was in the united states of america, there was a meeting with both republicans and democrats, and a separate

track - this is work with those on the far right, in the republican camp, respectively, who have one skepticism, yes, in relation to ukraine, this is systematic, difficult, and therefore difficult work, but we are trying to do it in general, we still need to understand that supporting... ukraine, it is in the interests of the united states of america in many ways, and most people are aware of this the us establishment, both in the republican and democratic parties. yes, the main thing is that the work continues, and yes, bipartisan support also means a lot, but i wanted to talk to you, igor, about an interesting statement and what it means. in particular, the military, the head of the military committee of the alliance bauer stated that nato has approved plans to deter and defend against the russian federation, these plans concern how to deter and defend against the two threats that nato faces, namely russia and terrorist groups. what, how should we interpret this statement of the military-political

alliance? well, in principle, it falls into such general, fundamental strategic things, and in fact, they understand the threat from the russian federation, respectively, especially now it is clearly visible in the position... eastern european, central european, respectively, countries that are part of nato, they are actively trying to rearm, in order to meet the challenges that the russian federation also faces, so again, this is precisely the strengthening of nato, which was provoked, respectively, by the russian federation with its invasion of ukraine, in order to, let 's say, have a zone of certain security. that is why it will be a strengthening of the nato presence and , accordingly, a strengthening of the member countries of the alliance, especially along the perimeter of the russian federation, since the russian federation is considered a threat, once and twice, as a country, respectively, in fact a terrorist, let

us not yet have these legal definitions to the end, but still, that is, it is a country that provokes threats of various kinds in various spheres , including and accordingly militarily, because the energy threat, environmental threat from the russian. is coming, and many of them, so again, this is simply a response to the reality that the russian federation is currently creating for the russian the federation is in it. nothing good really, well, there is none, because if before the full-scale invasion russia came out with a call, in fact with an ultimatum, to get to the borders of nato in 1997, yes, now the situation is different, there has been an expansion of nato and plus a strengthening and consolidation of nato’s position on many those issues that were previously considered more than correspondingly debatable, therefore, in principle, putin received directly proportionally, inversely proportionally, yes, what he was really dealing with, and what threats he

considered as the basis for the aggression that he is now carrying out against ukraine. absolutely true, especially since they in the kremlin still cannot decide on their goals , what exactly they are doing, how to serve the population, well , nato is getting stronger, thank you, igor, for answering my questions and joining the general national marathon united news, ihor petrenko, a political scientist, was with us, and we are moving on, so don't switch. in the shevchenkiv community in the mykolaiv region , the first full-fledged modular houses were installed in two villages, they were temporarily provided to families whose houses suffered significant damage as a result of russian attacks, but expressed a desire to return to their native village. temporary houses are equipped with communications, so you can spend the winter in them, even if they are small , a family of three or four people can live in such houses, our colleague saw more. natalia yakobson belibova. before installing such

houses in people's yards , preparatory work was carried out, foundations were made and cesspools were dug. the place for installation is chosen in such a way that it can be done quickly to connect the water pipeline to the houses, as well as electrical networks, because everything in them works from electricity and heating and all appliances. the families that were primarily provided with such housing were chosen according to certain criteria. our key wishes are for the selection of families who will be the first to receive these houses, well, this is definitely the case , we understand that these are families who have lost their homes, this is the first thing, and secondly, these are families where there are either elderly people or where there are small children , that is , the most vulnerable, vulnerable category of the population, well, it is also an important argument for us that there are fighters in both families today of the armed forces of ukraine, the houses are equipped with a sleeping place, have a kitchen and

a bathroom, and if they are insulated, they can be used for the winter. this is also the case with ms. zoya and her husband, their house was half-destroyed by shelling and is now unfit for living, the couple previously rented accommodation from acquaintances, but now they will move to a modular house, we were no longer here in the village, er, what flew there, i flew i don’t know , uh, the second floor has been demolished, all the panels are lying on the ground, oh, uh, there is no roof as such, everything is below, it is impossible to climb to the second floor, because all the steps are broken, everything is broken , well, everything flows, the house of anastasia from the village of kotlyarevo is also leaking and collapsing, the woman also got a modular house and has already started to move into it little by little with her two daughters. nearby is a dilapidated house of a woman, in which they have no surviving windows or doors. so that the roof is damaged, accordingly, all the ceilings are wet and hit. it. there is nowhere to live, well , it is inconvenient, uncomfortable to live there with children, they gave us

a modular house, everything is great here, for the child, the children are happy, everything suits them, everything is good, everything good, warm, comfortable, everything is there, such modular houses are provided, people can rebuild their own destroyed homes for a year during this time, but if necessary, the contract for living in such a house can be extended. the president of the united states, joe biden, plans to speak explaining why it is important for the united states to continue helping ukraine. this is how he answered the question of a journalist of nbc news. could a disagreement in congress lead to problems with providing support to ukraine? this really bothers me, but i know most do congressmen and senators from both parties declared that they support financing ukraine. soon i will make a big speech about ukraine. why it is important to the united states and our allies that we comply. our commitments, what else biden plans to announce,

let's talk about it right now with journalist dmytro anopchenko, who will join us from washington. dimo, congratulations, and do you already know when to wait for this speech, and please tell me, it will just be eloquence, another display of oratorical art, or it will be constructive, look, well, i tried to find out, i contacted the white house, they confirmed to me that the speech is still being prepared , that is, biden only announced it, there is a probability that it will be tomorrow, but they still cannot confirm even that it will be tomorrow, that is, everyone is waiting, well, the president is keeping an intrigue, well, as for what will be in that speech, look, the rhetoric is very much sharpening now, the passions are very much sharpening now both in the congress and around the administration, and therefore, by and large, biden needs to state both his position and the position white house, and the democratic position

party, regarding ukraine , regarding the budget that will have to be allocated anyway, so yes, it will be, it will be eloquent, not without that, politicians are politicians, nevertheless, everyone expects that there will be specific messages. and a specific vision, colleagues. dimo, well, but against this background, trump's statement appeared, where there are words, quote, no more, you can't spend a single dollar, yes, well, that is, and we understand that basically the situation in the united states, which is now, it arose because of the position of the trumpists, look, these words really appeared, trump explains that his position is that it is impossible to give ukraine, this quote, not a single dollar, until now. as long as europe does not give the same amount, we all understand that the position of one side and the position of the other will intensify. the other day, i had the opportunity to talk with a former adviser to trump in his administration during his presidency , and we were just talking, i asked if he

is as serious against ukraine or against supporting ukraine as he is trying to show, and i heard that politics is driving two politicians from two camps. if trump sees that biden advocates support for ukraine, for long-term support, then he has to go to another angle, another angle, in terms of rhetoric, nevertheless, whatever the reasons, we hear it, the voters hear it, those politicians in congress hear it , which are focused on trump, and there is nothing good about it, that is why it is important that biden speaks, and that as the head of state, as the first person of the democratic party who has more in the senate, for example, he announced, well, what will he do next see and situation and help and program. dimo, if we speak about self-support, please tell me, there are finances for this support during the budget break, that is, for the time being it is possible to do without the congress, please explain to us all these processes?

look, i've been trying to figure this out for the past few days, and just yesterday i spoke with mrs. oksana markarova, the us ambassador, the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, and we just looked at the money, it interested me very much, as a journalist, as a ukrainian , as a person, i can tell you that there is now a unique situation when, traditionally, the money allocated in the old budget budget, which ends at the end of september, they, well, relatively speaking, burned, no matter what purposes they were allocated for, even for the support of allies and partners, an exception was made for ukraine, this issue was voted on, this norm works, that the money that was allocated for ukraine past years, they are all there and they are all available. that is why for this period of the budget pause, now we will assume that it is for 45 days, while this, you know, such a short unofficial budget agreement works, there is money for ukraine under several programs. pentagon confirmed that there are about 5.5 billion, money that can go directly to

the supply of weapons, there are more than billions at the disposal of the president, there is a billion 200 million money that the administration has ... until the consideration of the new budget and before this whole shutdown of the shutdown situation managed to transfer to the world bank and from them the world bank can help ukraine to receive the hryvnia, to receive the economy, that is, on a large scale , well, of course, there is nothing good in this situation , when the ukrainian issue is raised, however, you know, i from odesa have always been told about good and the bad news, the good news is precisely that there is money, enough money, and even if in the past months, while the budget was working , ukraine was allocated somewhere... per month, well , now we have at least 5-6 billion, a good reserve, yes, well, it works out for about six months, if we proceed from such a logic, but - how important it is for us now to monitor the mood in the congress and what is happening there, in order

to understand how further assistance will be provided to ukraine, that is, there are funds, yes, but i remember that the day before... there was a vote on 45 days postponement of the shutdown, there were even such conversations in ukraine that it is okay, if even the funds remain in the budget of the united states for assistance to ukraine, and where will the clerks, yes, who will sign and send this assistance, if a shutdown suddenly happens, is there certainty in because the funds have been dealt with and the help will come just as properly, look, this is a correct argument, regarding the other, i very often hear... see, in particular, in social networks there, from certain facebook experts who say, it would be better then and shutdown was than them adopted the budget without aid to ukraine, and this is how once what you said, this is the most important argument, if there was a shutdown and there was no aid to ukraine,

there would be practically no one to conduct these negotiations with regarding the use of what is called transit funds money, money that remained from past years, that is, between the choices, there is an american administration, it works, it is in contact with ukraine, and so far there is a delay with help to ukraine and between the choices, let there be a shutdown, but only about ' voted for ukrainian the question is, of course, which of the two, of the two evils is chosen, the lesser is chosen, and now there is even the desire and readiness of the american administration to allocate a new aid package, also, what i hear, i hear so far unofficially, that literally in the next few days "this new package will appear, and look, it will also be help for the front, because weapons are really needed at the front, and on the other hand, what i hear is that the american administration, the white house , very much wants to show that if, for example, it counts on the fact that the aid will stop

because of the budget pause, no, there is not only that money, there is a desire, there is a willingness to allocate, in particular, weapons, so in the grand scheme of things, well, we will follow how the processes will take place now, we still have these 45 days for the american congress to decide on its further budget, there is no longer only ukrainian issues, but also with the ukrainian package, but tell me, please, if we change the topic, then the announcements of a new meeting regarding the discussion of zelensky's peace prayer appeared directly in the press, what is known about it? and what appeared now is still completely unofficial, however, in american government circles, i will say this, they expect that in october, jake salvan, the national security adviser to the president, may go to turkey, the city has not yet been determined, and there should be a third meeting, the third meeting - the discussion of the zelensky formula, we remember saudi arabia jeddah, just recently, we remember denmark, where the first meeting took place. well, now there should be a third meeting, during the president's visit here in washington, i had the opportunity to talk with

andriy yermak, the head of the presidential office, of the presidential office, and this is the person who represents ukraine at all these negotiations , i heard from him that there are specific plans to hold a meeting at the level of political coordinators and political advisers, there are plans for ukraine and ukraine's desire to expand the number of countries that will join these negotiations, it is ukraine's desire that, if certain countries are not ready to accept all the points of zelenskyi's formula, to at least agree and officially tell a few about it, well, in this way, this process will continue and from the united states it will be jake sullivan, well, everything is expected already in october and everything is expected in turkey, well, what is interesting, russia will not be invited regarding china while the issue is open, but russia will definitely not be, and the united states, as far as i remember, has not expressed a clear position, well, that is... about the peace formula from ukraine, which is the position of the white house, because what i heard from

european, let's say diplomats who are thinking, they say that such a signal from washington would be very powerful for countries, who doubt, you know, everyone is waiting for a signal from washington, during during the presidential visit, i was in canada, together with the delegation i also heard from the canadians that they were waiting for a clear american position. firstly, regarding the zelensky formula, secondly, regarding security guarantees, and ukraine is currently negotiating with all partner countries regarding security guarantees, nevertheless, the expectation now is that each country will determine itself, the expectation that each country, if she is not ready to take all 10 points, at least she will agree to one, two, three points, and in this way this pool will be formed, such, you know, snow, the snowball is huge, which can then lead to the fact that the leaders of the states will already gather at the summit mi. there is no talk of a peace summit yet, neither western nor ukrainian politicians are ready to name a date, but it should all

end when the necessary number of rounds have passed, so in the grand scheme of things, the fact that the states are participating in the discussion is already a lot, i don't think they're going to be ready, you know, to be so clear about the public position that they're making in closed negotiations, these are more technical negotiations, if you remember jida, we were going to to go there, and at the last minute they heard that the saudis... were not ready to admit the press, because the ukrainian side was absolutely open and transparent in its position and in its discussions, and asked to admit the press, in particular the ukrainian one. at the last minute, the saudis said no, that is, it shows that yes, there are different positions, there are different discussions, and in principle, this discussion is still at the technical level, we will see how it will continue, but in october you have to wait, literally 20 seconds, for the answer remains, in general, what is your attitude... to the formula of peace from ukraine, and it is possible to know which points cause certain greater discussions in the white

house than certain points with which they agree. you know, i wouldn't want to talk about it publicly, because what i hear from experts and what i hear from the spokesmen of the american administration is not for the air, what they share with us off the record, the only thing you know , i asked this question to the president when he was in washington and heard from him, and look, what is the alternative, as president zelensky said, there is no other plan than the plan that ukraine proposed, well, in this way, even if there is no alternative, i understand that other countries also have no choice. rather than agreeing with something, disagreeing with something, looking for some alternative, some options, but what is being discussed and will be discussed further is the ukrainian plan, of course, of course, dmytro, you are hinting at a closed meeting online for three, where we can to discuss the information you have, but don't release it now on the air, dmytro anobshchenko joined us now from washington, dmytro, thank you very much, and for the finale of this informational hour, the social

guarantor beauty works in kropyvnytskyi. for 10 years, volunteer craftsmen have been cutting and coloring old women and people with disabilities , and now also displaced persons and wounded soldiers, not only beautifying, but also creating a mood, our journalist lilia kocherga will continue the topic. the social hairdresser works on the basis of the lyceum of the sphere of services and trade in kropyvnytskyi. here, free services are provided to immigrants and local residents from abroad vulnerable categories. you have a radio, it’s great, and i found out what a hairdressing salon is on the radio, i came, no, i called on the phone , they appointed me to go to chaskal, i came, everything is great, now i’m a regular customer here, when the idea of ​​​​creating this hairdressing salon arose, we just really wanted to help at the time, and we saw how much the demand was growing, getting very

big every year and that really the demand is something that we can use... our skills, our apprentices, our masters can help , to people who need it, in hairdressing salons can work with about ten craftsmen at the same time, they say how many clients they received during the full-scale war and they don’t count , about 200 people come to them in a month, we cut, dye, and curl, do hair styling, hair care, and they have perms and su... not dyeing, we also do make-up, they, when people come to us, any, we try to create an atmosphere of friendliness, and people are very grateful to us, we communicate with them not only within the walls of our lyceum, and outside the lyceum. this one the hairdressing salon is open, volunteers also do hair for wounded soldiers in the hospital and people with

disabilities who cannot come to them. it's all our work with clients. to learn, to provide them with the right services, to practice skills, to practice all the theory that we will be taught here , to practice the tasks that are given to us at industrial training, the master of each industrial training shows some new techniques, methods, haircuts, everything that needs to be done, and it is very important for us that clients come to us and we work it all out and made them beautiful, made them happy, for me, as a retired woman, it is very important that something is free, and they are always... friendly, they put on beautiful hair when needed, and even, as you see today, make-up, when there are special events, and this is important for us, because with that state it is very important for our mental and physical condition, when you look good on the outside, it is as if some kind of inner strength arrives, and you believe in good, because the girls

are very careful, they are served by craftsmen, graduates and students of the lyceum, working in a bakery and immigrants themselves. equipment for the works helped buy donors, soon they plan to do manicures here as well. congratulations, this is the only news marathon, the rada tv channel team is working for you. we keep our finger on the pulse and summarize the main points for you. together we are a force. the only news in the center of events. congratulations, the 589th day of russia's full-scale war against ukraine. news time on the air of the nationwide marathon. my name is olga butko. let's start. two months in custody with the possibility of bail. the higher anti-corruption court of ukraine chose a preventive measure against the mayor of sumy oleksandr lysenko. the prosecution asked for

a bail of 10 million hryvnias, but the court agreed to three. this is reported by the public. however. even