tv [untitled] October 5, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm EEST
12:30 pm
weapons systems necessary to defend its territory, as well as the continued strengthening of ukrainian air defenses, as it prepares for new attacks on critical infrastructure facilities. definitely now, but also definitely in the coming winter months. in parallel with this, as the events are unfolding in the congress of the united states of america, the president of mexico, andrés manuel lópez abrador, stated that military aid to ukraine from the united states of america is irrational. he intensified his criticism of military action, calling on washington allocate more resources to aid latin american countries to ease the migration pressure, well that's what you said, there will always be people in the world who will criticize this great aid that we 're really going to get from the united states of america, but we can.
12:31 pm
.. to mention how other world leaders are hindered by russia's war against ukraine, how they are trying to somehow solve all their affairs, the mexican president, polish farmers, hungarian bankers who say that their otp bank is not a sponsor of terrorism , although it works on territory of the russian federation, do you, mr. pavle, observe how the world is trying, well, i would say so, to devalue the strength of the ukrainian people in the struggle against russia and to shift the emphasis from what is happening in our state on the russian-ukrainian front to some of their everyday problems, as the president of mexico did, who said, listen, why are you giving them so much money, give us more money and then everything will be fine in mexico and in general on the borders with the united states of america. devolve, probably not
12:32 pm
this, this is not what i see, but an attempt to disperse efforts, to see what is there , what is left, what is right, and even, in an international sense, everyone is looking at the map of africa and thinking, will there be a coup there in some other country that is happening in latin america, where there are these immigration...flows through central america and mexico, and then this is one of the more critical issues, uh, for the republicans and for the democrats, finally, something is happening around china, in january there will be presidential elections regarding taiwan, that's it psychologically, and politically, what i see, what, today there is a real threat... not
12:33 pm
trying to help ukraine less, but still disrupting efforts, there is an element, and fatigue is habituation, there is, as a matter of fact, in the ukrainian society, there is nothing strange here, and that is why i say that we cannot perceive the current level of aid, the current level of concentration on ukraine, as a certain distance that will always be with us, we have to explain, and not only emotionally, since the time of emotion is gradual, gradually the idea speak at the level of arguments, very difficult arguments, and say that ukraine is, it is their interest as well, ukraine, as part of the event, ukraine that takes part of the risks,
12:34 pm
ukraine that is predicted, ukraine that is democratic, this is actually a success of the west, well, in the non-western world, advancing our interests, as you well know, is very, very difficult , this world is not black and white, as it is for us, there, victory, betrayal, white, black, this world is about its own , and you can certainly talk to many africans about what we are now, we feel what sufferings, what trials we go through, but in return they will tell you about theirs in the last decades, and this is also something that we must not forget, this is a serious story, and we have no guarantee that any other challenges that may arise there in the coming months they will not reflect the attention of the world either, it could be... a new pandemic, it could
12:35 pm
be a conflict in the pacific ocean, near there , it could be something around the near east, and it is very important for us that europe understands, the protection of ukraine , protection in all senses, and our european integration, our euro-atlantic integration, this is vitally important for europe. now there is actually a very interesting trend in europe, they are beginning to understand that our membership in nato is more important for them than for the states, because what will happen politically in the states, no one can...' who will be the president, who will be the congress, we we already see this, yes, we also see that simply commitments from military and financial assistance are by no means guaranteed by anything, a new political reality is coming, and they
12:36 pm
are destroyed or postponed, therefore the guarantees, it's a guarantee, a commitment is a commitment, it's a very, very serious story, but nonetheless. what i repeat, for us the support of the event, as we strive to be part of the event, it is absolutely critical, this is the number one issue, and not only at the level of politicians, there, businesses, journalists, it must be human support, people must, must keep this emotion in relation to ukraine and the understanding that defending ukraine is one's own...self, it can be explained differently to everyone, but we should not rest our hands here. against this background, mr. pavle, the statement of the head of the nato military committee, admiral rob bauer, who spoke at the warsaw security forum, was made, he said that
12:37 pm
the western military is running out of ammunition for ukraine, he said that nato countries are running out of supplies, that is why the military "industry must increase the pace of production and must do it faster - said the admiral, and added that the bottom of the barrel is already visible, something similar with reference to unnamed officials of great britain, the daily telegraph also wrote, yesterday, they talked about the fact that the british also have resources, but they are not infinite either. how, how can you explain this situation with resources. e-e nato member countries, including great britain, with an infinite bottom in the russian federation, because despite all the sanctions, despite the warnings from the western countries and despite all the restrictions,
12:38 pm
they declare that in 2024 they will build up there the production of weapons there by 30 or 40%, and they threw everything there into other areas of the economy. which will now throw in the military-industrial complex complex, as you say, in this situation, the world should do so that the pace , i don't know if it is correct to say at all, races, arms races, because we see, in principle , building the potential of one side, the civilized world, and the other side , well, conventional asia, asia, conventionally speaking, how can i get out of this situation and how can i balance this imbalance, which obviously arose due to the fact that russia was preparing for war with ukraine for 20 years, and the west was not preparing for such a war, such intensity of ukraine and russia.
12:39 pm
create incentives to increase the military production and for us actually. for myself, there is no political will and public support in the west, even to partially transfer the economy to military lines, no one wants this, because it is unpopular, so it is necessary to create incentives and give prospective orders to companies that can and should produce faster and better, and here... there are several dimensions, well, of course, it is better and faster to produce patriot chirisa, but for this it takes time and real time, but why can't we establish the production of ammunition there faster, now 19 months
12:40 pm
war, these are the questions that western politicians and military should ask themselves, looking in the mirror. it was obvious that firepower, it's critical to this war, it's on the one hand, the first war of the 21st century with drones, software, other information sharing, but on the other hand, the last war of the 20th with fire duels and so on, so much faster it is possible to produce, but what i hear is in the same europe, there are endless complex conversations about whether or not the increase in production will be accepted in russia, and the main thing... in china also as the beginning of an arms race, they think about the global world
12:41 pm
, and unfortunately, not only about us, and secondly, there is no political will to use financial and other resources, and there is no need to transfer them to military rails, it is necessary just to say that there will be orders for the next few years, not for two or three, but at least for 8-10 , that we need to produce new weapons, that we need to do it now and we need to do it in the future, and that 19 months is still endless talk about it continues, and someone says that something is not and what, something is, something is, this is actually a completely sad and bad story, and actually you need to ask yourself why such things do not happen.
12:42 pm
like the production of ammunition, the european union has said that it will supply us with a million shells, production is difficult now, but nevertheless, they promise to deal with it in the first half of 204, i believe that if the measure is serious about what it has if necessary, of course, to withstand any war, of any complexity, lasting with key players, well, not only russia, but also china must absolutely qualitatively change the approach to the ordering, development, and production of weapons, this has not been done yet, this mental souffle, it has not yet taken place in the west, and it is sad, i mentioned the sanctions that have been introduced against the russian federation. we constantly talk about the sanctions that are being introduced against russia, the sanctions policy was quite active
12:43 pm
in the 22nd year, in the 23rd this sanctions policy also continues, and we see how it is possible now not with the same intensity as it was before, but after all, sanctions against of the russian federation are being introduced, and what do you think is the measure or marker of whether these sanctions are successful, in relation to... in russia or not? the fact that they reduce the ability of both the russian economy and the russian machine to produce weapons and support this war. sanctions, they are really unique, and we are grateful for that, to our partners, but every day there are hundreds of different options for circumventing these sanctions, including through countries that, for example, like turkey, are members of... nato, through the emirates, through central asia, of course, through china,
12:44 pm
yes, it costs russia more, but nevertheless, russia will get it, and even worse , it is a matter of trust in the west, because simka has imposed restrictions on the export of russian oil and oil products, and oil is more than 60 dollars per barrel, russian, it is not should be...served in the sense of insurance, transportation services and all the rest, so is the restriction on petroleum products, but this issue is critical to the event itself, from the point of view of fuel prices, from the point of view of inflation, from many points of view, in fact, and sometimes the west ee too partly closes his eyes, partly does not do what he should do.
12:45 pm
is partly not ready to risk relations with other countries that directly violate the sanctions regimes, i.e. sanctions, they work only when, when it is clear to everyone that they cannot be circumvented, and when they are circumvented, those who circumvent them receive, and they receive very harshly, and for now, for the fact that the sanction... is in place, no one will receive anything critical, so with the sanctions of history, as for me, you know, sometimes they say that the glass is half full or half... empty, i believe that it is definitely not half-empty, but definitely incomplete, it is definitely in the middle , neither positive nor negative, and to make it positive is within the scope of the west, it is necessary to raise the stakes, it is necessary to speak harshly with the countries that bypass
12:46 pm
sanctions, but so far the west does not want it, and this is partly understandable, how much the west uses russian resources, all russian oil goes to india for processing, and then in the form of fuel goes to the west, russian metals flow to the west, uranium goes, and that's the whole story that goes down does not want to cross, exceed, these pain thresholds, he wants to maintain normalcy, this is the same as we talked with you about the release of weapons, yes, trying to get putin, yes, trying to strangle the russian economy, yes, but under the condition that this does not harm the event itself, this is how the political position is built today , the british prime minister rishi sunak also addressed the event, he said that it is necessary
12:47 pm
to support ukraine and give zelsky tools, that is, weapons. the ukrainians will complete the work, let's hear what said the british prime minister. i can proudly say that it was we who led the world in support of ukraine. we were the first country to send western battle tanks to kyiv. now more than 10 countries have joined us. we were the first country to send long-range weapons to kyiv. now we are joined by france and the united states of america. we were the first country that agreed to train ukrainian pilots. we are now joined by more than 10 others, i say this to our allies, if we give the president tools for zelsky, ukrainians will complete the work. it's nice to listen to rishi sunak and , well, obviously it's doubly nice to listen to you, because you worked in london for four years and
12:48 pm
you know exactly how the british behaved then, it's the fourth to eighth years, how they behaved. the way ukraine is treated now, what do you think, this change took place , the attitude of the british, and the fact that great britain would become our main partner is without a doubt, if the poles or the united states of america were not offended there, but, the british prime minister made it clear that we the first to provide long-range weapons, we were the first to provide tanks, we were the first to provide such and such weapons, which the americans were still thinking about whether to provide to the ukrainians or not, what has happened in the past year and a half in relations between ukraine and great britain, why, why are the british so have become warmer and more familiar to us? well, i wouldn't say the main one, i would say the most consistent and bravest, it would be more honest, because after all , the americans, both in terms of volume and what they
12:49 pm
provided, are definitely number one, and this whole story is impossible without the americans, and and till things germans are now in second place in terms of help, but razors are really new types of weapons, they were always ahead, it was an example for everyone, they broke, broke the ice, went further, and went quite boldly, by the way, you remembered how i worked in london. i remember the surge of british emotions and hopes after the orange revolution, unfortunately, these hopes subsided for a while, but at the beginning it was crazy, it was even possible to agree on a no-fly zone in advance, and then it all fell, fell, and it's really a sad story , but beat
12:50 pm
they understand what kind of world they live in, they understand that there will be either the western world, or britain will be nowhere, the brits understand that either western values are something, absolutely material, for which you have to fight, these are not declarative things, or we again in a world where nothing, nothing is predictable and transparent, the razors are number one in this regard, they, they have their mentality, and this mentality is so tough, in a good way tough, they have experience of the colony, er, also experience, which can hardly be called positive, but nevertheless, they are ready to act, they don't think endlessly, they don't think about some
12:51 pm
formally pacifist things, they know that values and other things need to be fought for, and if you want to win a war, you need to raise the stakes in it and you need to wage it, you need to fight, otherwise i don’t see her, here we are lost... i’m lucky, i still communicate with a lot of people and they are very cool, of course there are quite complex weirdos among the brits who have their own considerations, but in general i think that the brit number is really one and with the americans, they helped us with, well, with the european union is smaller, there will be elections there too, most likely in the second half... next year, it is not certain, britain has its own election system, there is a certain deadline, and before them they can be held whenever
12:52 pm
the prime minister wants, well nevertheless, it is important for us , even if there are some political changes, that this support is consistent, now it looks like this, but this again does not mean that it is given to us. somewhere from the sky, and we have to sit on it and do nothing, britain is unique for us and we have to work with it further, and by the way, great respect to the british and thanks for what they did for us, and you are right about the americans, because in this situation i wanted to say that great britain was still ahead, this great american military vehicle, because after all, americans are americans. and the british, they were more agile in their decisions and speed, how the former prime minister of great
12:53 pm
britain boris johnson flew to kyiv in april last year, everyone remembers and his support is also remembered by everyone, ex-commander of the troops united states of america in europe ben hodges says that the ukrainian general staff is now completely outmatched by the general staff of the russian army, let's hear what ben hodges said. the ukrainian general staff completely outperforms the general staff of the russian army. the russians don't know where the next attack will come from. they, like multilateral observers, are focused on ukraine's ground offensive through minefields and trenches, which is of course an important part of the counteroffensive, but it is only one part. this is what nato calls multi-space operations. the united states does so. and ukraine, actually. doing so in full view of the world, right now, is when you operate simultaneously in a planned manner in the air, on land, at sea, in cyberspace, and in information space.
12:54 pm
well, the only thing that general hodges didn't add is that our capabilities in the air and at sea are too limited, well that is , to be honest, and we're all waiting for f-16s, and of course, surface naval drones will play a big role . now, in particular in the western part of the black sea, where actually russian ships were usually brought out to shell ukrainian territory state, but we hear different assessments, everyone says, well, the ukrainian army is cool, the armed forces of ukraine fight very well, but the impression is that they are still using this principle of salami in the supply of weapons to ukraine, because they will cut off a little. and they will say, well, let's see how they will be, with such weapons, and the tanks, well, we are tanks, we will send 10 abrams or 30 abrams there, eh, why do you think, this may be
12:55 pm
a rhetorical question, why do you think, the west provides weapons in such small doses, why not immediately give ukraine what it can speed up the finalization of the russian -ukrainian war, especially since the ukrainians have clearly declared that our, our goal is to reach the borders of 1991, and not to go to the borders there to the urals or trans-baikal? the band is of course well done, we've been friends with him for a long time, he says everything right, the only question is that we really outplay them, but they have resources, they have resources, economic, human, bigger than us, and that's why we need this help from the west , we really, even with our capabilities, took away from them control over the black sea, at least partially.
12:56 pm
and this, this is a fantastic achievement, i don't even know how to choose another word, but in terms of arms deliveries, we all know this story very well, there are considerations about escalation, and putin's response, at first it was still a story about fears, the use of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction, this is common. understanding that certain types of weapons, as we have already discussed today, there are not so many of them, westerners, they cannot quickly set up production, they cannot quickly set up, well improvement in fact, of those weapons, although they learn a lot from us, like at
12:57 pm
the training ground, well, of course, there are many more things that are connected with technical things, with training, with some kind of logistical chains and so on, that is, everything is superimposed, but the main reason, in my opinion, is the attempt of the west to keep our war under control for itself, and to prevent fundamental escalations, with these... endless postponement of decisions on tanks, but if we had received the tanks a few months earlier, perhaps the situation at the front was on the other hand, i'm not a military expert, i don't want to engage in philandering here, but we perfectly understand that this political declaration, which we of course want to hear, that we will play and be with you as long as necessary,
12:58 pm
should sound differently, that we will help as needed and when needed, and the military commitment negotiations should be built around that, because if we agree that we will have what they can and when they can, then it's not what we need because we need what we necessary, again, sorry for taftology, and when necessary. and this is a completely different story, we could move much, much faster, but this is both political and military history, well, our own general such geopolitical history, and actually we should be very frank about the fact that our understanding of victory, well, we have it is clear which one, and they actually
12:59 pm
don’t have it... to win over putin and put him in his forest from a doctor so that he behaves there somehow is the essence, if not the defining difference in our vision, we are moving in the same direction, but still with different assessments and different expectations, and we also need to speak frankly about this, today, information appeared that zelensky in an interview with the italian television company skytg24 stated that ukrainian intelligence predicts an increase in nuclear threats from russia by the end of the current year , however, the president of ukraine did not clarify what these threats might be, we know that the russian federation continues to control the zaporizhzhia nuclear
1:00 pm
power plant, constantly. they thunder with nuclear weapons when it comes to crimea, and we know that the general assembly of magathe passed a resolution and called on russia to withdraw from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, but again we do not understand what the consequences may be, we do not know what the consequences may be for russia in the event, for example, if they land the reactor on the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plants, accusing ukraine, the magat does not... they do not say, what will happen if russia does not listen to this resolution, and they do not listen to anyone at all, and therefore they are angry, including at the magat and on and on all others reservations, in your opinion, are there still certain reservations from the same united states of america or great britain to the leadership of the russian federation, or are they.
14 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
Espreso TV Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on