[000:00:00;00] and the second part is clear, concrete and non-abstract tools and solutions aimed at solving this problem , well, it is more problematic here, but i believe that it is necessary to show our western partners and listen to their point of view on this matter. well, your colleague, a member of the party, bohdan yaremenko , stated that he is very ashamed, this literally in front of the ambassadors of the big seven, who were handed, again literally, a shameful letter. do you support such a position, well, i believe that everyone has the right to their own point of view and everyone deputy, every person, you know, well, it is very good when we are critical of any document, it is a guarantee that this document can be improved, but i am a supporter of, let's say, constructive criticism, that is, if someone does not if you like this text, or some elements, provisions of this text, you should offer your own

vision. which, by the way, is what i did on facebook , i laid out some of my theses, how i see the solution to this problem, and you mentioned that you need to hear from western partners, and what kind of reaction do you expect from them, maybe you already they heard something and talked to their colleagues, and what exactly was this document handed to them for, they asked if it was an initiative of the ukrainian side, well, i don’t know, because that’s why i can’t say whether they were asked or not, i think , it is possible such a reaction to, well, i mean... the article in the politiko magazine regarding the secret plan, as it was written there, regarding the reforms in ukraine, well, this information also needs some confirmation, but it was worth showing that i i expect, i expect an objective reaction, i i expect the beginning of an honest, open discussion on this topic, because this is a key issue of reforms in ukraine, mr. oleksandr, and finally,

what do i take into account... is there public resonance, what is the probability that this concept, again, taking into account that it has already been handed over, they can refuse, and who will then be responsible , well, they can refuse, indeed, but it will not look very serious, if, for example, the author who offers something and then refuses, has to work, it is necessary to improve, it is necessary to start dialogue, and it will then be such a serious approach, heard, sir. oleksandr, thank you very much for finding the opportunity to join the broadcast, oleksandr mereshko, people's deputy of ukraine from the servant of the people faction and chairman of the committee on foreign policy of interparliamentary cooperation. well, at the end of this broadcast hour, i will add that there is a statement from the secretary general of the council of europe, maria peychenovych, burych, who condemned the russian attack on the village of grozana in the kharkiv region, when 50 people died, and she wrote that i strongly

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12:10. completely flooded apartments, pillows, blankets, blankets, you can eat a little there, i asked for walkers for one grandmother, diapers, you

will take them now, so i will take them now, this is probably what these...' oh, yes, these are urological pads for people with reduced mobility, for people lying down, yes, we need pads, they are a little heavy, so i i'll help, take it to the car , see, let's pass it on, glad that everyone is alive, everyone is healthy, a call from austria, and home, hello, god bless you, yes, and, good day, well, we're loading the car for you, approximately 30 mattresses, of products, including warsaw, it will be somewhere around 8-9 tons , wheelchairs, as requested, there are children's chairs, baby carriages, there is something,

bed linen, and detergents, everything is there, everything yes, yur, you smile, from me smile, ok, thanks for that, that's all, all right, let's hang in there, yeah, hang in there, mate, that's all, all right, yeah, bye, bye! thank you for your help and thank you for your work, hang in there, victory will be

ours. there was a torture chamber, the fsb interrogated there, and sometime after 10, after 11 in the evening, those soldiers, guards, directly dragged people to this corridor and tortured them here in the corridor, just for fun, to scare us, so that break us all. and quite such unpleasant memories, and they took turns dragging someone out, torturing them, and then they say, well, that’s it, they got high, let’s go to sleep, civilians are captured for various reasons, i’m like a public figure, well, someone brought them up, they said, probably, that i have a super pro-ukrainian position, and you have to work with me, otherwise i am hopeless for them, exactly a pro-ukrainian position... volunteering, an active, public

simple position, helping people, is a crime for them. these are labels, this is a calendar, people, people crossed out how many days they had spent, my, my inscriptions here, here are mine, they are drawn. they mocked people so much that they just didn't care. place, after the first interrogation, when i was electrocuted, i was brought to this one the camera, and i realized that my wife was here, the greyhound was enough, but they are not easy at all, people are asking, the area is an island that has flooded, some people cannot

leave at all, so sometimes they have to go by themselves when they go to the island and to the zone you can say hostilities, serious, then no bullets or projectiles, i believe, on april 30, armed people took my parents away, on the second day, there is no information about my parents, please let me know where my mom and dad are, when they

will be released home, i was left completely alone and not i know what to do, you see, the door is broken, they pulled it out with a crowbar , they broke everything, i already prepared a little here, so i broke the door, i was told to lie down first, i lay down here, there were five or six automatic weapons sticking out laser sights, we were all on the sights, it went somewhere. about 11 people, because they crossed over me, so they put a machine gun in everyone's back, and then the search and interrogation began, they found ukrainian flags, ukrainian symbols in the house and asked the question, why do you have symbols, to which the woman replies

and that you were hoping to see russian symbols here, well, that's why i don't know why they came and asked a lot of questions, they didn't make any accusations against me, absolutely, they took me for the company, and without any explanations. i asked what you are accusing me of, they told me that we ask the question here. the stress and shock i experienced cannot be described in words , of course, i cried, sobbed, interrogated, all this horror happened every night, they pulled me out into the corridor and it all

happened right here in my yard, well, they are these men, young, old, they shouted so what, it was just incredible. my fingers hurt, my ears hurt, because i covered my ears so much so as not to hear this scream, then they put a chair for me. to the second guy, he says: get out of here, it's still too early for you to look at such things, they put a gag in my mouth so that i wouldn't scream too much, then i clenched my teeth so much that i broke my front tooth, i had to put it back in, but i still had an electric shock ,

until i lost consciousness, being in the middle of the day, i constantly thought about my son and constantly thought that he, like him, it turned out that he stayed at his friends' houses all day, he came home at night, because he said that suddenly his parents would be released at night and they would have nowhere to sleep, they would not be able to get home, and he spent the night at home every night, waiting for us. when they were taken out into the corridor, they forced us to sing , well, not sing, to recite the russian national anthem, because they understood that we didn't know the russian national anthem, so they gave us a piece of paper and we had to read it from the piece of paper, this was for them, well, the peak of bliss, the day before after all, before the start

of the war, we were in africa, in the tourist region trip, we were in zanzibar, we visited heaven on earth, and we travel a lot, we go skiing as a family, we are such a ... sports family, and in such difficult moments, that is, i fell from paradise, i fell to hell, and every day, every minute i remembered these best moments of our life together, i lived it, it was all fresh in my memory, and it helps a lot. the door of my cell opens and the commander brings in my husband and the first thing that

came to my mind was that i realized that he was brought to me to say goodbye, that his or shooting, or will be taken somewhere. we stood for a couple of seconds looking at each other and didn't understand what was happening, and then the commander , he then spoke, did you, the man said, is your home far away, what i experienced at that moment, i just couldn't believe it in these words, that is really all, because i was preparing for the worst for two or three months, even up to six months, up to a year. as long as our people do not come and free kherson, i

was preparing for this, day, good day, we will bring some benefit to the people, i cannot sit and do nothing, the people are satisfied and these are their smiling eyes. and the happy faces, it 's very inspiring, well, it's, it really makes me want to do something more for them, it's some part of our recovery, what we've been through. and now people just give us some part of their

energy and it helps us to live and work. what are our next steps? we need to restore the materials of the criminal proceedings so that they find them and the investigators have already started working on them, then you will be questioned as a victim. it is good that you found the strength and time to seek legal advice in a timely manner help, and we managed to send a complaint to the european court within the stipulated time. now we only have to attach the evidence that we will receive at the national level in order to show the community what is happening in our ukraine, you do not

stop, strength and inspiration to you. the woman and i, when we got out of captivity, agreed to tell about it, because everyone should know about such terrible things. if the victims of war crimes remain silent, the war criminals will go unpunished. i am ready, i will tell you everything so that this does not happen again in the future with all of us, so maybe this is not a mission, but my help, my little drop in this good cause, maybe will give some

result. look, there is a mine. this is russian military equipment that my uncle photographed. uncle oleksiy and i were mowing the grass here, then this guy, a car, drove up, they drove up,

asked what you were doing here, why you came here, this is our territory, and just then they started to check the phone. they beat us here, what are you filming, what were you taking pictures of, with whom did you correspond, they beat us here and there, they took us here and there, here lived kadys. this was their headquarters, there was still a full bed here, they brought me here,

they interrogated me, after that they beat us. and thrown into the pit, they told me that i was like a contemporary. and here she is, they took you by the hands and feet and threw you into the pit, that we will not let you out there , that we will bury you here, that we will throw you a grenade there, kill you here, shoot you, it is moral to break them, and to show that they are nobody, they are the

same garbage as that pig, well, it's absurd. and this is wildness, we panicked, i felt in the pit fear, fear, they took us out later, tied our hands tightly. they blindfolded us with a noose and put a bag over us and threw us in a bucket, they brought us to some kind of cell, and like in the police,

you know, cells. they did not separate the prisoners and i did not see where they took him, i was very worried about him, the scariest thing for me was when they took him to the basement, with lyoshy there very specifically. they pretended, well, they beat him quite often, well, they took him away, the black guy is so fit, well, he’s a handsome guy, but he comes, well, he’s pale and gray-haired, you know,

they kept him in the cellar for about a year, they beat me on the stomach, to the kidneys from his side. i was accused of removing equipment, beaten, no, we don't know of such, no , we didn't have such, go there, go there, well, yes, yes, for all 10 days we didn't even know where they were and what happened to them, whether they are alive or dead, and this saved me

, even though these are my other two small children, she does not eat, does not drink, does not sleep, sometimes wings, then another, every rustle, every one of them, at night in the yard there are dogs, then dogs, then cats, she grabs everything and runs, because a friend's children came, they were fed by two spoons. per day, if not porridge, then pearl cakes, they gave out-of-date galettes for 13 people, a bottle of water, a five-liter bottle was given for this one , they were allowed to go to the toilet occasionally, we first recorded the fact of torturing children, the occupiers themselves called it a children's cell, the people who were they say it's a wet room, they threw