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[000:00:00;00] she doesn't eat, doesn't drink, doesn't sleep, sometimes she flies, sometimes there is still a rustle, this one says, at night there are dogs in the yard, then yoki, then cats, she always jumps up and runs, because the children have come. we fed them two spoons a day, if not porridge, but also pearl barley, they gave out-of-date galettes for 13 people, they gave a five-liter bottle of water for this one, they used liquid water in the toilet, we recorded the fact of torturing children for the first time, the occupiers themselves called it a children's cell, people who have been there say that it is a damp
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happened to me. when vitaliy arrived, he said that he heard russian roulette being played there, he heard shots, that's it, you'll be lucky, you won't be lucky, you'll survive, you won't survive, people were beaten, they were beaten, there he was, as vitaliy told a man whose heart couldn't stand it, that they didn't even call a doctor for him when they beat that man with a club, vitaliy v. was sitting
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the camera and saw how blood flowed under...' behind the door, those people who sat there longer, they told a lot. when i was in captivity, i was afraid not to see my family, brothers , mother, father, grandmother, uncle, i wanted us to be released, so that this horror would end as soon as possible. i heard that they were deporting people, deporting children, yes, i was afraid that maybe they had already deported him, taken him away, we still had thoughts, when they still did not come, that maybe they were taken to the field after all,
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i drove along some of these streets and looked at cadres, i understand where the houses are, especially since i had my own taxi service, so i know the city very well, but it is very difficult to recognize it. when i first drove by, i really did not understand that i had driven into the city of mariupol, so it was unrecognizable, it was so destroyed, it is literally a block from my house, it is the center of the city, near the port city of the house, of course, the city was really leveled to the ground so much that you can recognize it... by its outlines, by some signs, garages, some
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buildings, oh, oh, tears, but not men they are crying, they are crying, even how they are crying, oh, hometown, hometown, i suggested, here are guys who want, i am looking for volunteers, drivers who want to save people, and all those who wanted responded, yes, absolutely everyone then wanted to help each other, they were in contact with me 24/7, i wrote routes for everyone, i told everyone who to pick up and what to take, i found a humanitarian aid, fuel, buses, which i drove them on, so they have already become my family. long goodbyes, extra tears, that's all, all the best,
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live, hold on, it's great, i have seryozha a unique person, because, first of all, he is one of the first drivers, and he managed to make the most trips, he is from mariupol, so he knew where he was, it was easier with him. everything, pass, sit down, he just arrived, took everyone, a full bus, loaded it, brought it, arrived in the evening, by the time he got home it was already night, at 5 in the morning he was leaving again for the next flight, he said, i’m still ready to go, he left again like that , alive and well, lying hidden, lawless, but she categorically refused to leave, but so that you would understand what was happening. that's what i asked
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to go to my distant relative, because there was no connection with her, nothing, she was lying in a dilapidated house , without windows, covered with blankets, she didn't want to go anywhere, i left her groceries, that's it, too, as if alone... this is a story that really showed the scale of the entire tragedy and how many people were just lying helplessly at home. waiting for someone to find them, someone to help, thank god that she survived, she is alive, everything is fine, i could imagine that they could kill me, i could imagine that they could injure me, well here at it was not in my mind that i could get into a pancake, but i could not imagine such a thing, as usual, i came with humanitarian aid, i stopped at the location, as it were, where there was the largest
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concentration of the civilian population, where it was more or less safe , he began to distribute humanitarian aid, at that moment people in military uniform approached me, you will go with us, step left, step right, we will shoot, we did not immediately learn that our guys were captured, because there was no communication and flight took 4 days, and we didn't could contact them, we contacted all authorities, called all the hotlines , which we did not do, but all this was useless, that's how we waited for more than 3 months, in total we
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had 11 people in the plan . what was the reason for detention? well, you know, at that time there were no arguments, and the only thing that was said was that there were too many of you here , something broke up. help me, i say: "i'm only doing something like that with the humanitarian aid of the product and the evacuation of people, he says, well, let's figure it all out, their relatives, mothers, wives called me , asking, what is there, where are they, how will we get them, what measures will we take?
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and that is why this period was very difficult both for them and for us, because we simply did not know what to do, what was happening to them there, and when we heard from others, who were freed, what was happening to them there, then we simply they were terrified, they took us out and forced us to dig our own graves, as if before execution, i tried to tell them that i priest, i have other goals, i save people, but no one heard me, i was electrocuted, i can't tell what it was like, i just screamed, cried, begged, no need, but they continued to torture me, cell 16 km, and there were 40 of us there, the maximum number of 43 people, that is, everything was brought to us, we slept in turn, we slept on the concrete floor,
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 , here you are standing, now i will register you, i clearly know the number of how many people i saved from mariupol, and it was three flights for me from mariupol, and the age of jesus christ is 33 people, this number is probably very clearly fixed in my mind, why, because i regret that... so few people have passed the registration, get on the bus, it's okay, who- do you need it on the road? it is possible,
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please, it is possible, please pass it on. i know that now people need to be evacuated, so it's exceptional again after all, a human message, a human message, that i am needed, i don't even have to , but i want to help people, that's why i am doing this to this day and i will be doing it as much as it takes... people, do i believe in the fact that there will be punishment for those guilty
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it is deliberately avoiding responsibility for this crime, without admitting that it holds such people, citizens of ukraine, without providing lists of these people, and these people, unfortunately , remain invisible, since neither ukraine nor other international organizations have the right of access to ukrainian-controlled territories, access to places of detention, do not know for sure, at least approximate statistics, how many civilians are forcibly kept in torture chambers, in places of deprivation of liberty, and we do not even imagine the scale of this trouble and the scale of people who need immediate help and immediate response of the international community, there is no such thing as a civilian hostage in international law, therefore we do not have a return mechanism, because all
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civilians who are forcibly detained must be returned to the territory of their country without any arguments or conditions. i strongly ask people who have become victims of war crimes, who have witnessed the crimes committed by the russian federation, and not to keep silent about them, to contact law enforcement agencies, international organizations, and human rights organizations, to record the data crimes so that in the future they will serve as evidence, both in international courts and probably in the future tribunal, and as long as we remain silent, until
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ukraine and the world. vitaly portnikov, host of espresso and invited experts, based on facts, give their assessment and forecast of the development of events. if you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday political club, every saturday, on espresso. congratulations, russia's aggression against ukraine caused , well, you know, a total war in the center of europe, why is it total, because in essence, we are forced to fight not with the russian army, not there taken separately by putin, we are at war with everyone, everything, the entire russian state, even, i would say with the entire people, moreover, russia itself... from the very beginning put forward such theses that they are also at war with the ukrainian
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people as such, if you suddenly forgot about it , then you need to remember, and hear, they constantly talk about the fact that their goal is to destroy not just ukrainian statehood there, but ukrainianness, as such, in principle, and they talk about it constantly, repeat, it sounds, well , listen again to understand it, finally, it is necessary to close the topic with ukraine loudly, and today they will admit that there is already under denazification , demilitarization, it is necessary to close the project of ukraine as such, once and for all, everything was, no, there is no such ukraine, this is the territory of russia, this is the territory of that soviet, that russia that was once called soviet union, well, when there is such a, you know, total war, then, especially. such strength , relevance, and it is especially important to conduct it, well, precisely with the population, that is, there are not just
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battles at the front, special operations are being conducted in the body, various operations of influence on the population are being conducted, on the army, both from the russian side and from ours, it is being waged from two sides , it is a constant war that is going on in such, you know, mental space, and since we are forced, i repeat once again, to fight not with a separate, small bunch of people there, who sit in the kremlin, and with the population of russia as such, it is important for us to understand what is happening there with this population, how it is set up and, on the other hand, how exactly russia is waging war with our population, mentally, well, about what russia is doing, in principle, well, there is nothing new here, we know that they are trying to sow in every way discord, they are constantly using a whole bunch of bots in social networks, trying to bring discord between different military personnel and those
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people in the body, between different groups of military personnel, there are always some strange... posts that someone is not fighting like that, somewhere some are better, there are brigades, others are worse, some brigades, and so on, and so on, it is always there, it is constantly happening, here the only question is how to perceive it, and how critical one should be towards it, if , if the things you see on social media, even from well as if, as you know, such very patriotic people , or unknown... patriotic accounts, write something that causes you an emotion, well, you know, despair, anger at one's surroundings, at oneself, a sense of guilt, all this indicates that that this is some element of just such, you know, psychological, and accordingly the same story is happening with the russian population, it is interesting to understand
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what is happening there, well, the polls... from the very beginning of the war, which are being conducted, constantly show what about 70, there are about 70, a little more, a little less in different months, but about 70% of the population supports the war, but there are nuances, it is interesting, if you look at these nuances, the last survey was on september 21-27, 2023, it is very recent, and there are, you know, such interesting questions arise, well for example, while... 70% of them support the war, all this is understandable, but there is a question of what they are afraid of, what the population of russia is afraid of, if you look at what they are afraid of, well , you will see, they are afraid of shelling, and these are huge numbers , despite the fact that they approve, yes, they fear, the supply of weapons to
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to ukraine, and they are afraid of mobilization, and it is also interesting, the attitude towards... mobilization , if you look, well, there is quite a large part, about almost five 50%, one way or another , they are afraid of mobilization, but, if you look at the first month of the war, then you will see that they did not even think that this mobilization could affect them in any way, what this shows , it means that when the war began, they did not think at all that it would affect them in any way, now this the situation is changing. she hasn't changed them yet supporting the war. moreover, if we look, for example, at hitler's germany, in the 40s, there was the same story. everyone supported the war, and supported it until the last day, until they were defeated. but there are nuances when people support but fear a lot of things, then these things that
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they fear, yes, they can lead to what they are. simply, how to say , to sabotage some things, well, that is, to hide from the army, not to do certain work in production, somehow, you know, passively withdraw from it, harm, give in captive in the end, and these are important things, and if we return again to these fears of theirs, it is precisely these fears that russian propaganda is trying to work with now, well, the first fear? this is actually the shelling of russian territory, the flights of drones, here it is clear, they either do not tell at all, or tell that everything is not so terrible. the second fear that they have there is the supply of weapons to ukraine, and here , of course, interesting things have already happened, because they simultaneously tell that ukraine wants weapons with blood and try to tell about the fact that
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