[000:00:00;00] by the european partners themselves, as my colleague there previously noted, eurobureaucracy is a tool, a tool that is used, applied by european politicians, it can be used to speed up certain processes, or vice versa, to slow down certain processes. the example of serbia can be quite indicative, i.e. one country with candidate status has been there for many years, again the curiosity of the situation, on the one hand the aspiring european union, on the other hand, yes, prime minister vujciic maintains relations there with russia is quite tight and is trying to balance in the region in the context of the kosovo issue, so here we clearly have to scale up institutionally, to be ready for a lot of things that are connected with the implementation of already existing acts, directives, regulations of the european union, and there are tens of thousands of these legislative acts that really change

the rules of the game and key approaches. sometimes spheres, so i believe that we are aware of this and will move dynamically in this direction, expecting from our european colleagues, partners, the new composition of the european parliament, the european commission , hopefully pro-ukrainian, will also show openness in this matter and the desire, even empathy, to help ukraine in this process, which is not easy, but important for the transformation of ukraine, really full-scale. full and such membership, and full-scale, also membership, sounds good, actually, yes, thank you, mr. bohda, bohdan ferenc, an expert on international issues, was in touch with us, thank you very much, ms. ludmila, again i want in order for our viewers to understand that european union, we constantly talked about the fact that we strive for accession, yes, however, it has already become

a certain symbol, yes, that is, it seems to us that this is our ultimate goal, yes, to which we strive, well, i am sure that it is in the imagination of some amount, yes, yes, for example, what will happen next, well, we have entered, next , what processes will we see after that, yes, well, in your opinion, what could be launched, well , first of all, if we really now let's start negotiations, then we must understand that we are still on this path to a full, full and complete entry, a we will really have to implement european legislation, it is in our legislation, because they we will have to comply with their norms, well, some example, maybe, well, what example can we have, it starts with economic issues, the economy, this is the main thing, because there are certain quotas, there are certain things that the norm for everyone is burning, yes, also according to some corruption , our anti-corruption, according to the judicial system, especially the judicial system, well, you know, we have such a corner fireplace now, the judicial system and we need it, it is now running

in this reform plan. that's why i really think that they are like that, but since they have, in europe, they have in europe what for ukrainians, the european union, yes, this is justice, yes, there are courts, there is justice, there is democracy, there is the right to vote, there is such and such, that is why it is necessary to have this feeling in the ukrainians themselves in ukraine already, therefore, we must understand that when we enter there, yes, we really have technical tasks, we we will perform we implement all this, but then there should be some kind of excuse me the russian language is already aware by the citizens themselves, by all our majority of ukrainians, that we are there and we will have to abide by these laws and this will be another time of such years of transformation of the ukrainians themselves, so what do we say that yes we are europeans, we, but

there are many slogans, many of our ukrainians are already there and see how we are, what europe is like, but this transformation must take place in ukraine itself, in the very consciousness of ukrainians themselves, i think that it will be precisely on this on the way to full entry and there will be more the time when we enter then, this certain transformation, because our enterprises will have to understand that they will work only according to such rules, there will be no others, that there are some, as we say, but in the european union, yes, but we have a different way of how we will get used to them, here... because we are already used to it like this, i say, well, nothing, we want it, we longed for it, we longed for it for so many years, we passed such stage and we will be a very difficult stage, not a single country has not passed what ukraine is going through before its such hope, on of our goal, that's why i'm saying, we've already gone through so much, so somehow we're already saying , you'll already somehow adapt to their legislation , so that's why you understand, i'm saying, yes, there will be many challenges, it will be a big

transformation, but. .. ukraine, it has always been european, it has always been in europe, even if we take the times of tsarist russia, yes, we have our art, it is very good. says about it: ukraine knew the baroque, yes, we had baroque painting, we had, er, the literature of the baroque period, this is russia, she didn't know all this, she didn't have all this, ukraine had all this , that is, european culture, the culture of malden law, we already had all this, we are just going back there now and restoring it in our memory, returning home, yes, we are returning home, thank you, thank you, in general, for such inspiring theses, what helped. understand, lyudmila pokrushchuk, doctor of philosophy, expert on domestic and foreign policies, joined us today, ladies and gentlemen, you came to our studio, and we will talk further about geopolitical processes, that are happening, in particular, about what conclusions

ukraine can draw, based on the experience that a number of other countries are currently undergoing, in particular, we will talk about the events in the south caucasus, about how azerbaijan restored its territorial integrity with yaroslav bozhek, a political consultant, center for political studies of doctrine. congratulations thank you for being with us. i congratulate you. so, from january 1, officially, such an entity as nagorno- karabakh ceases to exist. this was announced by local representatives, well, let's name it yes, the administration, yes, if you can use that word, and it was the result of a certain process that was going on, and we've seen there in recent years how everything basically went to that. can we use this example. that's right, to draw certain conclusions, let's say so, so that in the future, at the expense of the nigs, they are also likely to be used in some way to restore our territorial integrity? to a large extent yes, because

first of all we have to understand that this struggle for nagorno-karabakh has essentially begun for azerbaijan with a new force already after realizing his defeat in the 90s, that is, the first karabakh war , he de facto lost, but this did not change the mood of azerbaijani society and it led to a serious social consolidation, yes, to a certain change of perspectives, priorities of the elites, to the formation of the state, foreign and domestic policy, which over the next 20 years led to victory and success already in the second karabakh war, and then the operation, which has now ended in the capitulation, of the so-called, yes, the so-called leaders of this, of a pseudo-state entity called artsakh, yes, that is, it actually

demonstrated that azerbaijan was able to play this sufficiently problematic strategic game for a long time, so that it did not count on any quick success, and this largely allowed it to create a moment where firstly, it has changed quite significantly... the regional context, yes, azerbaijan was able to seriously strengthen due to the strengthening of state power, due to changes in foreign policy priorities, due to the strengthening of its key neighbor turkey, and this is a significant showed to a great extent that those states of the post-soviet space that had serious problems with separatist enclaves, that these problems are not unsolvable, azerbaijan is the first such case in the history of the post-soviet space, where the central government managed to resolve this... conflict the essence now, as we see, completely, you know, here in this context we would like to talk about how the russian peacekeepers acted, so we understand

that the task is to ensure a certain legitimacy of this government, or to preserve this power in the hands of those who represented nagorno -karabakh, it was not their task, however, to prevent the physical liquidation itself simply... such formation, probably, well, according to logic, they should try to prevent it. however, we see that even despite the death of a number of russian peacekeepers, russia still did not use the lever of power, let's say such help, well, in particular to representatives of the so-called authorities there in nagorno-karabakh, why and why such a reaction even to the death of russian peacekeepers? first, there are two very important points: one international law. that is, the self-proclaimed nagorno-karabakh republic was not officially recognized as a state by anyone, that is, even armenia did not recognize the nagorno-karabakh republic, and russia, moreover, even

recognized azerbaijan always within its internationally recognized borders, that is, with karabakh, and this means that the use of csto troops, even according to the mandate, which exists in this organization, was unrealistic, it should not have been expected. secondly, there is a more complex, geopolitical reason, which is the weakening of russia in the caucasus, and to a large extent the peak of this weakening was, firstly, due to the strengthening of turkey and other players in the region, and secondly, it is still a significant diversion of russia's forces to the war against ukraine, that is, this is the forced withdrawal of a large part of the troops, including , to participate in hostilities against ukraine, it made russia much weaker in the caucasus and it was essentially forced to agree to the conditions offered by azerbaijan and turkey. and for russia, all that remained in

this situation was to demonstrate, on the one hand, that these conditions somehow satisfy it, so as not to receive such a universal, sufficiently loud geopolitical slap, on the other hand, through these so-called peacekeeping formations, russia tried to continue to increase instability in the region, yes, even after the second karabakh war, these the so-called peacekeeping contingents passed through, or were sold to... illegal armed formations that fought against the azerbaijani authorities, at the same time these armed formations carried out a large number of mines, sabotage, various actions, i.e. the task was such that it is clear that the status quo cannot be broken now, but the russian federation would like to prolong this conflict, yes, to prevent the azerbaijani authorities from establishing a clear status quo, which conditions, let's say... long-term, unequivocal power over the region,

so that this duality, yes, armenia, azerbaijan, and russia, on the other hand, fuel the conflicts, try to play on the elites on both sides, support some uvermeni circles there , who seek revenge in the war, so that this unstable order is preserved as long as possible, however, it was a clear moment for turkey and azerbaijan, that is, precisely by their decisive actions, they did not allow russia to implement this part of the plan, here it is still interesting to talk about the path that armenia is currently choosing, yes, despite the fact that the same pashinyan criticized there and the odb for powerlessness, and in particular, even more, he stated that armenia can ratify the rome statute, which means that it can become another country that could logically arrest the same putin on the warrant issued by the international criminal court. in general, here is this vector change. in armenia, as well as with military, military exercises together with

the united states, in general, there were recently, this is also something new, and what is the change of this vector connected with, mr. yaroslav? well, first of all, it is already forced and indeed, as we can see, overdue, the need to change foreign policy priorities, because the bet of part of the russian, part of the vermen elites on russia as a key donor, partner, as a key armed force in the region. she did not play, and the fact that many armenians, by the way, voted for pashinyan and voted for the second time, it was actually a marker of something, a different desire, yes, that is, the desire to still choose at least partially some other path for armenia, and in the complex realities in which pashinyan and armenia found themselves, this path, he could not be frank pro-western, yes, it cannot be so now due to its geographical distance from the european united states and countries close to them, that is

, armenia is essentially surrounded by a circle of partly friendly and partly unfriendly authoritarian anti-western regimes, primarily russia and iran, with iran, by the way, they also maintain positive relations, because iran does not want the strengthening of turkey and azerbaijan, but one way or another, with the arrival of pashinyan , the so-called karabakh clan of armenian politics was removed from power. this is the former president and his entourage, who are still quite influential in armenian politics, but already in the status of a certain opposition force. on the one hand, they were the main promoters of this idea about the need for armed revenge against azerbaijan, that is , these instigators of this instability, which russia would like, and on the other hand, the main partners of russia within armenian politics, yes, that is, pashinyan is, although not openly, a western politician, we should

understand this and not be surprised, because some of his steps do not add up, let's say, in the frames with which we accompany the leaders who came during the waves of revolutions in the post-soviet space, but this is at least a marker of the fact that a significant part of armenian society would like, at least not to pedal this conflict, that is, not to proceed from some kind of rhetoric immediate revenge, because it is armenia that remains sufficiently weakened, and here is this geopolitical, let's say, its failure , it will condition the search for new partners, and unfortunately, we now see, the event can only be partially, unambiguously, but we mentioned indirectly in the united states, interesting internal political processes are also taking place there, which of course will affect the world order, probably the war between russia and ukraine, let's talk about this further, so let's move a little across the ocean, actually from our continent, the court of new york

found donald trump guilty of fraud, according to the investigation, the former us president overstated his wealth by billions of dollars over the years, thus. he tried to get favorable credit terms and lower insurance premiums, the decision was made in the order of simplified proceedings, it satisfies the preliminary requests of the prosecutor general and makes it possible to bring the suspect to justice in the further process, which will begin on october 2. the prosecutor's office insists on a fine of 250 million dollars and banning trump from doing business in new york state. at the end of last year, the court recognized two campaigns. must have avoided paying taxes for 15 years. mr. yaroslav, what will we see in the near future, how the trump case will develop and what fate awaits him? well, first of all, we have to understand

that this case is not yet a final trial, that is, we understand that there will still be an appeal, and these appeal procedures are different. they are sometimes needed not even so much for the possibility of winning the case, but in order to slow down the process. on the other hand on the other hand, there are other cases against trump , for example, regarding the discovery of classified documents, which were essentially illegally stolen by him, after he left the white house, leaving the office of the president of the united states. for the current democratic administration in the united states remains. it is a big enough problem that trump is the top candidate among the republicans, and there is some possibility , let's say, that he will not be allowed to run for the election, perhaps, including if he is imprisoned for a certain, court sentence, but an important point, they will actually be imprisoned, and not just taken under

the knife, yes, because while there is no final court verdict that a person must sit in a carriage for a certain number of years, he will continue to run for office. to participate in the campaign program of the republican party of the united states, if he is imprisoned, it will deal a very serious blow to the republican elites, because there is currently no candidate who in his electoral support within the republicans even comes close to trump, and in the course of the election race it will be big the problem is not even so much creating recognition and creating support for this new candidate who would replace trump, but it will be much more difficult to create wide recognition, because trump is known in one way or another by almost every average us citizen. here's the next republican candidate, it's going to be a colossal media challenge, how quickly, in a tight time frame, to build such, such a campaign that will give,

at least his recognition, and as far as i'm concerned, trump's imprisonment is not yet the final scenario, yes, that, what are, what judgments, this can always end in fines, that is, not go directly into a direct confrontation with his political career. mr. yaroslav, there is another thesis, well, maybe you will either confirm or deny that, despite the general view, the more cases are allegedly moving in relation to trump, even if we are talking about criminal proceedings, then allegedly this only incites the interest of the audience, his of voters to him, i.e. his rating in connection with this simply...' is growing, he can demonstrate what he was told to do, but, as he says, these cases are initiated and because of this, his support is growing, can you confirm this thesis, or is it still a myth? this is rather a misunderstanding, yes, because when a certain political candidate is persecuted, as a rule, trust in

the candidate is based, and in this situation , also on whether you already trust him, yes, whose side do you take, the side of the accusations? or on the defense side. the most likely thing is that it can increase the level of political mobilization of those people who already support trump, who are on his side and accordingly, they tend to interpret these accusations as political persecution, but american politics, let's say, is seriously governed by a slightly different segment of the electorate, that is, the so-called moderate, centrist voters who largely live in... that is, in states that can vote for democrats, and for the republicans, because the most radical voters on both sides, it is clear about them who they will vote for. yes, and the difference between elections, between electoral results in the usa, is often

based on a difference of 3-5% in an individual state, that is , essentially a battle for the centrists, it will not be won more effectively by the republicans in this sense, and a significant part of the centrists can really quite perceive such accused as legal and legitimate, and consider candidate trump as inadequate. version, so i am more inclined to think that it will not lead to an increase in support, but we will see, it is quite likely that the mobilization of those who already support trump will increase, this will have an impact on the domestic political context of the election, but it may alienate a large part of the centrist voter . sir yaroslav, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, called on the former us president, trump, whom we are talking about, to present his settlement plan. during the ukrainian war, it happened, actually, during the un general assembly, on its margins

, in an interview with cnn, mr. president stated that if the idea is to take part of our territory and give it to putin, then this is not a formula for peace, he said zelensky, after what happened, it happened after trump himself declared that he would stop the war in ukraine if he suddenly becomes president within 24 hours. here is the formula for peace, peace from trump, will we see at least something, at least some sketches, is it at all, you know, i remember a story, a political technologist once told me, he participated in the election campaign of one of the politicians, even not in europe, and this politician, he always carried with him the book economic plan of reforms, he always had it, and they printed it themselves, that is, there was only the cover, there was absolutely no text inside, but he said, here i have there is, and there is such a plan, or something like that the most peaceful plan? trump, like this economic reform plan, does it exist at all?

i think that most likely there is not, and it was such a diplomatic trick on the part of ukraine, that is, it was such a diplomatic maneuver by zelsky, because ukraine clearly understands, and russia, in fact, also clearly understands that there is no such golden intersection for some kind of mutual favorable compromise between the parties, that is, one way or another , the truth and the final, final result of the war is now being determined on the battlefield, and until the forces of one of the parties enough to be ready for some radical steps, so far no plans are realistic and no diplomatic or statesmanship can generate them, as to what trump can directly offer, there is also no great mystery here, most likely these are proposals in the spirit of henry kissinger, who was at one time an outwardly...' political adviser to trump, but more importantly, he was an adviser to nixon, and it was during the nixon presidency

that the collapse of the structure that the united states states opposed the soviet union in asia. it's just that at some point, nixon and kissinger decided that it's easier and more profitable, they say, to get involved with china and reach a certain compromise with it, than to oppose all this soviet stuff. a huge number of seato organizations, serious support collapsed and troops were withdrawn from vietnam , yes, that is, trump's plans in this sense are what is called america first, yes , of course, yes, mr. yaroslav, first of all, of course, these interests of the united states states, yes, well in fact, mr. yaroslav, we are limited in time, unfortunately, thank you for trying to explain, we see, verbatim, how the same kissinger changed his position on ukraine's membership in nato, let's hope that. i am also a western politician, even those who are against the provision of new military aid, oppose, will change their

point of view, in simple words , today i talked about a difficult thing with yaroslav bozhek, political consultant, chairman, chairman of the center for political studies, doctrine, thank you for joining , and we thank you for being there this hour with us, with you were oleksiy gomman, kateryna derkach, thank you for your trust, chevorons, who bring victory closer, and another year when we do not celebrate, but choose our independence, and another day when they try to deprive us of our rights

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