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12:10. greetings to all viewers of the tv channel, iryna koval is in the studio and today i will talk with yaryna chernogus, she is a ukrainian poet, volunteer, and military servicewoman. a marine , a military medic, a scout of the armed forces of ukraine, a mother, and also a participant in this year's lviv book form. mrs. yaryna, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, mrs. yaryna, well
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i want to start our conversation from the moment when your war started, because i read your biography, well, as far as i could find this information about you, it is quite interesting, you wanted to go to war in 2014, but then they gave birth to a daughter, when did they make a decision and when were they still able to go to the army? in 2019, i joined the hospitaller battalion, in 2020 i signed a contract in the marines. i did it in the first place, because i understood that it would happen most likely... the second phase, because i understood that the oblivion that existed about the war and the events of 2019, 20, 21 made me think that there would be consequences for this
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, that we would be attacked again, so i wanted to be ready for this, why specifically hospitalists? i left the hospitallers because, firstly, with great respect for yana zinkevich, and secondly, i was interested in trying in the volunteer battalion, whether the army is really mine, after having worked there in positions with the armed forces, the first brigade i was with as a hospitaller in the 19th year at the positions, it was the 36th marine corps brigade, so i then decided to sign a contract with her with this type of troops. and what can you say is different, now you can say your work from what it was? well, of course, being a soldier in the regular army and a volunteer unit are, well, especially during
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the oo period, they are very different things. uh, in the army, you totally if you belonged. yes, you belong to the will of the commanders, the tasks you have to perform, you are there for an indefinite period of time, especially when it comes to such a full-scale war as it is now, you cannot choose when to go or not to go on rotation, you do what you are ordered, you are at your disposal, and well, for me, in principle, this is a restriction of freedom, it is normal, the only thing is that our battalion was two years without withdrawal to... well, but after recovery, i think we will work, as before, in 2021, the number of women in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine was about 30,000, with the beginning of the full-scale invasion
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of russia, the number of servicemen is increasing every day, and now there are more than 41,000 women serving in the armed forces, but it is still possible. to say that our ukrainian army is not adapted to women, so everything has to be decided directly on the ground, and of course we all understand that there are more important issues and needs related to the equipment, equipment there, so women's uniforms, shoes, life at the front, they take a back seat, i want to ask you , that is, from the moment when you went to serve already, when we are talking directly in the army, not when you were in the hospital, but when you are now serving in the army, what were the main problems you had that you complained about, and which ones did you have? well, i want to say that there women's uniform, shoes and all that, these are not
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really important issues, because you can feel quite comfortable in men's clothes, well, as in my case, i have the majority. the clothes i wear are unisex, meaning they fit both men and women, military, the biggest issue was with what, well, i say. about myself, many women can say something else, for me it was more that there is a restriction on the admission of women to combat positions, that is, you have no problems, well, no problems with problems, but maybe, but they will take a position there, i don’t know, a soldier 'yazu, a a combat medic, even possibly a drone pilot, yes, but if you want to be there, for example, in a mortar or in the calculation of the ags, er, far from all units and types of troops are ready to do it, that is, with admission to combat
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positions, that’s the only thing , which is, as far as i'm concerned, the problem now, and as for everything else , every woman is tested in every department she comes to to prove that she can work on par with the others, well, the standard thing if you i'm not ready for that... i don't need to go there, because there will be trials everywhere, nowhere is it easy will be, that is, you have no problems with everyday life, right? uh, no, i even like army life, i can’t say that there, something worried me too much there, although i was the only woman in the company there all this time, but i didn’t have any problems with life there, well i just understood where i was going, if you join the army in a reconnaissance... er , reconnaissance company, well, there is nothing to hope that you will be very comfortable there, it is
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uncomfortable for everyone, men and women. the only question is that you are allowed to do the work that you do you love and which gives you inspiration and energy, well, these permissions you are talking about, on whom does it depend, on the commander, or why, in your opinion, is this attitude towards women, well, in general, it is in many senior officers. especially of the older generation, and not only the older one, there is a prejudice that since a woman is physically not as strong as a man, then she does not have, has, does not have, or at least should occupy some such, related positions with firework or something like that, it used to be special sharp, now i'm glad that i see there are some units where there are women in these positions. and it makes me incredibly happy, but i would like it to be more, of course, because
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for some reason they believe that a combat medic is a job specifically for a woman, although a combat medic is a very tiring job, when you work in evacuation, you have to to drag the bodies of the dead and wounded, to drag a backpack, by yourself, that is, it is far from, i don't know, a soviet nurse, as it is sometimes understood. well, some old fashioned military, it's a lot harder. in your opinion, is there currently a real problem that society does not understand, equaling the contribution of women to the struggle for the independence of our country. maybe you had such problems or misunderstandings? well, there were a lot of such misunderstandings, of course, despite some there, now some information has started to emerge. efforts to show that the day, that is, the veil, is not only the day of the defender and the day of the defender,
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before that, military women, unfortunately, will always remain such an exception, their participation in hostilities, even if it there was a very intense, long-term participation, will be questioned, because we simply dissolve in the sea of men, of which the vanguard is mainly composed. and this just has to be accepted, so when i came to kyiv on a business trip for a defense project , to which i was invited to advise based on my combat experience, well , including to take my daughter to september 1 for the first time in four years, then i well, i met a lot of cases where... well, they thought that if you are a military woman, then you are not a bad thing,
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you don't do anything serious there, well, that is, some kind of frank, i don't know, disrespect, contempt or devaluation is rarer, i would say so, i met a lot of people who follow there on social networks, i could read it, i don't even want to name it, it's just that there is, and you have to accept that it will be like that, you don't have to prove anything to anyone, and communication with my brothers helps me a lot. that is, we survived with them, i communicate with them and understand that if these people know who i am and that we came together, why should i accept someone else, or after all to defend your rights, since i know that you are quite an active participant, and you have such a clear civic position, one might say, such a revolutionary, why did you decide that you should accept this, and not choose and fight for your rights? well, the fact that i run social networks and sometimes quite uncompromisingly write about these problems, it's like,
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i don't know, there's probably a struggle, well, forgive me, but i'm already a little. my civic duty for these four years to ukraine, to still fight and finally prove something to someone. ot your phrase that you just said, that you have already fulfilled your duty to the motherland, and i want to ask you, i read it very often on social networks, and maybe so, you know, as they say, word of mouth, it works when people tell, finally the military will return there from the war and... well, i think you are a little upset about it, and would you like to say something to such people in response? i will say what others say, that the military will return, tired, exhausted, with no desire to prove anything to anyone, and their slightest triggers
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they will get out of their minds, but they will most likely shut themselves off and have no desire to do any more work for civil society, civil society itself should be sensitive and empathetic to the experience of the military and make some decisions for their sake, although of course this is a utopia, i i understand that the realities are such that if you want something, you have to speak about it yourself, because no one will speak for you, that is, someone will have the strength to say something, someone will not have the strength to speak, well, first of all, for sure. do, not only talk, yes, of course, and do too, c someone will have strength, someone will find some , their own, their exhalation and their rest in this, someone will not want to prove anything to anyone, just yarina, what is the most difficult thing for you in
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this war? well, what is the same for everyone, losing those you love, that is the most difficult thing, that is, the death of brothers, yes, the death of brothers, the death of civilian friends who die from shelling, rockets, yes, it is, well, death relatives, there, survival, that my husband will die, but many, many women have already lost their husbands, so before that too you have to be ready. i will now quote you, you wrote about the fact that poetry is my meditation, not close to everyone, far from understandable to everyone, sometimes too personal, sometimes
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too distant and philosophical, but it definitely contains... the truth about death, love , the limit at which knowledge occurs, a kind of triangle of war, can we say in these words of yours, it is clearly followed that you understand that you can die too, right, yes, well, well, because it is war. well, i can't say that for me, it's - i don't know, death is what it can happen to you in the war, that is, if you go there, consciously, you should be ready for it, for me after, that's how i had to experience the death of these five people there, to whom this book is dedicated, that's more, then
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well, for me, death is really just an experience that happens to some earlier, to others later. some go through it earlier, some later, here, and i do not treat this as something fatal, because well, if they have already had this experience, then i can also have it, but you have a daughter at home, who is she's waiting for you, she's nine years old, yes, well, yes, here, here, she keeps me a lot, because uh, in general, in the war, soldiers... there it's very important when there's someone at home to hold them, because if it is not there, in such a war, as a rule, they do not live long, when you made this your conscious. but you wrote that it is a choice without a choice, our agreement to die , you talked to your daughter about it, well, my daughter
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is nine years old, i try to talk to her carefully, not to threaten her with unnecessary things that are too early to understand at that age , because she, well she is because the child born in the first year of russia's war against ukraine in 2014 is a child. she knows, she doesn't need to explain many things, she empathetically understands them herself, but you talked to her about the fact that you consciously made this choice, she probably asked you why mom goes, why other moms stay at home, come to school, and her mother made a choice to go to war, i have a very simple answer to this, in such a war, which the russians are waging against us, someone from the family must go to defend. the state who it will be, father or mother, each family decides, we have it so that it is me, everything
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is clear, yarina, i want to ask you when you write, in general, in the war, when you find time, for that to write? when there is a moment to rest, i write on exhalation, all these texts, they are written somewhere, i don’t know , a moment of peace, well, no one in active combat writes poems, are you going to go back, home, to the child, or whatever will you fight to the end to win? i might take a break if i can, even just a little bit, she's at such an age now that i needed, it is quite difficult for her now without. without me, if they give me this opportunity, but i'm going to come back later, i understand, i just have an understanding that this war is for decades, and eh, if there is an opportunity, you
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managed to survive these four years, you can allow a break, year two, and then come back and everything will be the same, and what are you going to present at the book forum, and what are you going to talk about, well mm. if we manage to find it, we will talk with kateryna mikhalitsina about my collection of designs defense of presence, we will talk there with other speakers, including our circle, writers from europe, and about the language of war in war, about what happens to language, how to articulate it very much. military experience, to what extent it can be done and when it should be done, in what genres, and let's talk about these
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borderline states that arise, as well as how to convey them or not to convey them, well, if we talk about language in war, then what would you could say when, after all, it's time, because there is also a lot of social media about this there is a discussion on the networks, what do they know, the military there speak russian, you don’t need to pay attention to it, what language do your brothers speak, and whether you, as a poet, are trying to somehow influence them, if someone does speak russian , it is possible to retrain them , reach out to them, no, we don't discuss it, i don't say anything to anyone, i don't make any remarks, because well, well, yaryna, where did such an interesting name for your collection come from? can you tell me? well, design
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is a concept from heidegger's philosophy, rather complex, one of the most complex concepts, in fact, in german philosophy, but i still remember from mogilianka, when we read and discussed it, i came to the understanding that it is design, being here and now, that is, a philosophy of life that is based on being here and now, and uh, such a great agreement with one's destiny and one's life choices and the fact that every interval of time surrounds you, and the defense of presence, well, that speaks for itself, that is, our presence in the world, that's what's trying... now to destroy the enemy, here, on different levels, and at the cultural level, and at the level of something so profound, individual
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, because each of us who considers himself a ukrainian without this land and without freedom on this land cannot be a fully individual individuality, because ukraine is part of the individuality of each of us, that's why it's a defense of presence. i want to thank you, yaryna, first of all for your civil position, which is quite active, for what you are doing now and what you are doing, and wish you to return home to your daughter as soon as possible, well, thank you very much for the conversation, with we were yaryna chornogus, a ukrainian poet, a volunteer, a soldier, a marine, a military medic, a scout of the armed forces of ukraine and a mother,
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