[000:00:00;00] developers, these are platforms with turrets, ground drones that will help destroy muscovites, because they are remote, can be remote machine gunners, and will also help evacuate our military from the battlefield and deliver ammunition to the battlefield . this is a wonderful ukrainian development that will make life easier for our soldiers at the front and make life worse for russian soldiers. we still need to collect 28,800. dear friends, let's convert our pain that appears after those russian shellings and our anger into donate and join our collection. well, now kyrylo sazonov appears on our airwaves, a political scientist in peaceful life, a military man in military life, mr. kyrylo, congratulations, congratulations, glad to see and hear you,

and we are glad to see and hear you, where. by the way, if you can tell us what your situation is, unfortunately, it’s not possible to say where we are now, we understand, about the situation, can you tell us a little bit, is it so, where you are interested in bakhmut, as always, what we have according to bachmut, the armed forces of ukraine, the defense forces are working to take it semi-encirclement, the head of the press service of the eastern command, ilya yevlash, says that this is quite real, that is, in the south of klishchiivka, andriivka , vorok rushes to the positions and constantly asks to repel them, but he does not succeed, moreover, somewhere the armed forces of the advanced group crossed the railway , and this route is under fire control: mariupol, donetsk, horlivka, through bakhmud, to sloviansk, then to rostov or

kharkiv, that is, logistics have already been made more difficult for them, the only remaining route is from bakhmut to solidar-lysichansk, north-donetsk, luhansk , this is their main vein, but when we take it under control , it will be very difficult to supply them, without logistics it is impossible to fight , we saw this in kherson, because without weapons, without fuel, well, you don’t drive, you don’t shoot, nothing you can’t do it, but in bakhmut there is a group, a grouping of enemy troops, somewhere around 10,000, plus tanks, plus equipment, other, and they are without timely supplies, well, it will be very difficult for them, and they will either have to make a gesture of goodwill, or fight to the last cartridge and surrender, north of bakhmut, exactly where the thunder worked, until recently, there was a rather difficult situation, the enemy is holding back, holding his positions and trying to knock us out of bohdanivka and

hryhorivka. and get out in time into the ravine, but they do not manage to advance anywhere , moreover, we can already see berkhovka and the berkhov reservoir, and from there we see bakhmud with an unarmed eye, that is, this half-end will probably be closed, actually, the probable capture of bakhmut, that it will mean from some strategic or tactical point of view there, and that's what you think about the fact that new york is there not so long ago, the times wrote about the fact that, they say, this is all the ukrainian government. this bachmouth, but it does not have a great, in fact, strategic importance. the command said that there will be no frontal assault, as wagner did, as russian troops did, there will be no frontal assault on bakhmut from the bot on the part of the armed forces of ukraine, because these are big losses, the encirclement itself, the encirclement is our obvious step, and as for bakhmut , it does not really have a great strategic importance, because this route,

when it is shot through... what is there, it is not there yet, especially in bahmud, it is located a little in the lowlands, and the heights around it are andriyevka klishchivka to the south, chasivyar to the north, and they are already ours, so pakhmut has no strategic importance, but the russians took it for so long that against the background of the loss of kherson, it is considered a political symbol and a little for us, and more for them, if, well, it's theirs, their only victory in the last six months, probably the fact that they allegedly took bakhmudya... i always emphasize that there were separate units of the armed forces of ukraine and the 34th the battalion is separate, and they received the last streets of bakhmut, when prigozhin already made his comments about the fact that bakhmut is completely under their control, so for russia it is of great political importance, why are they holding on, bakhmud has no strategic military significance, especially since it left ruins that are difficult to contain , the war research institute also writes

that the defense forces of ukraine. advanced near andriivka in the donetsk region and the works of norbovo in the zaporizhia region, in fact, if we take the zaporizhia direction, they also write that the russians are trying very hard territory, now strategic reserves have been deployed there, if you believe the same cooper, the father of this attempt, in your opinion, how can it all end, will the russians succeed? well, in the zaporozhye direction, the russians tried to follow the soviet textbooks, then the russian textbooks, the 42nd, if i am not mistaken, motorized rifle division restrains the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine, from the front, and from the flanks, two airborne divisions are working to pin down our troops so that we withdrew the forces from the offensive to the defense on the flanks, because well, so as not to be encircled, but they succeeded

only partially, because their offensive did not have any success, the armed forces of ukraine are moving forward a little, but at the moment their counterattacks, ours, are very small in terms of numbers, such in meters, there are 100, 200-500 m, it is not even very significant , on the map from the point of view of a tactical achievement, but firstly it is very difficult, because the resistance is very dense, there are a lot of mines, a lot of artillery is working, so the armed forces of ukraine are working hard and advancing at a very heavy price, and secondly, well every height, every green, every fortification, every road, even field, weakens the enemy and improves our positions, therefore it is so , when you look at the map, it seems, well, not very essential, in fact it is important, well, i wanted to ask something else, we discussed here today with

the deputy of the kharkiv regional council , sergey zhukov, who was on the air in front of you, discussed what happened in the village of groza, and what the russians did to the civilians, there is a good russian yulia... she said that she was cursing in russian the army that they are stupid, and they must have beaten the force because of the fact that there was a crowd mobilniks, and they say that the russian military thought that there were ukrainian military personnel there, but in fact a group of mobilniks, it is not only ukrainian military, it can be ukrainian civilians as well, they say that if you kill civilians it is bad, but it is possible to kill the military, and so you know, somehow i don't know, sir...' of the military, she is a good russian woman, still according to that, this is the first thing, and the second thing, there is one, one, one person who calls himself a ukrainian,

oleksii , who constantly communicates with that good russian woman arestovych, which is not clear in which in a guise, he travels abroad somewhere, there he speaks on behalf of ukraine, again that yulia yulia latyniniy said some nonsense , we can listen to them, it's just that you are a person who not only fights, but also flies, i would also like to hear your opinion, man in one, the military political scientist, let's see what rastovych said in latin, and then we'll hear your opinion, they started, they didn't become what they encouraged, they didn't break the social norm, and that was chuchila danilov, about whom we need to talk more find out what he was doing there in luhansk, how and where he came from his nickname is the ball and many of his names are the same , that's how i think historians and journalists deserve this investigation, and how he made money in the group at that time. people remember everything, they know everything, he raised it to the rank of state policy, for example, by allowing himself certain statements, but they started, they did not become what they encouraged, they did not stop the social norm, and this scared danilov,

that's why she showed less with that, not that, but by the way aristovych went to valdai to meet with all putin's ideologues, so this bogeyman, i'm sorry, danilov, headed, headed, for example, the headquarters of our ukraine, viktor yushchenko in luhansk, and it was not honey, to be honest with you , it was very nemed in in 2004, we were in luhansk, we were simply running away from yanukovych's aggressive supporters, well, that's right, in fact, i 'm not at all interested in the opinion of good russians, that's what they are, what they don't have, if they want to they were taken somehow seriously, to listen to them, to communicate with them, put order in your country , remove the dictatorship, if you do not agree, it is a struggle that you are asking to teach us, and for some reason to talk with us, russians, put order

in your house, do not teach others, because these are the russians, they cannot help but teach, they tell us how to do what to us, what grades to give, how to treat it, that is, putin is supposedly on his own, and they are on their own. no, you can't, i'm not interested, i don't follow latin or other russians, someone is going somewhere, someone is telling something, it is not interesting at all, if they are our allies, then... very temporary and only in the fight against putin, after putin, russia will not disappear anywhere, its aggression will not disappear anywhere, and if they come to authorities, will be the leaders of our enemies, anyway, that's why i'm not interested, i don't accept them at all, and as for the attack on the village of groza yesterday, in fact, this is the bloodiest terrorist attack against the civilian population, and to say that they saw a cluster of mobile phones, and they thought that we were there, it's nonsense, because there are also drones, there are

they have, well, i am 100% almost sure that there are some adjusters there, and they knew that they were civilians, because we, who in such situations do not turn off the mobile phone, do not put it in airplane mode, this mobile phone is taken and pinned to a pole, to the tree with nails, that's how replenishment, be careful, that's why ukrainians, when they climb where it can fly, there are not a bunch of mobile phones turned on, here i am every time, yes, i take permission, i have a location. this wall so that no one can understand where we are, because this is security, this is your security, no need to pretend and consider the enemy stupid, that's why they knew that they were hitting peaceful people, the european commission has already spoken about this, and the white house has expressed sympathy, i hope that after this, after this war crime, bloody, cruel against the civilian population, and biden and congress will give us both missiles and military aid as soon as possible, because everyone sees that we are fighting terrorists who kill

civilians, they are not people, and we must help ukraine as much as possible in this fight. actually , what if we are talking about some anyway attempts at forecasting, nava, well, there is shoigu, we talked about it, that he said that this war will continue there until the 25th year no less, and that , by the way, it recently hid, which turns out to be the father's pace, he said that there how much is still formed. it seems that additional regiments were mobilized by the russians, but it turned out that, to a large extent, these are simply people who are forced to rewrite the contract for the third time, that is, these are the same people who simply still survived, and they are already enrolled, as it were, in new formations as part of mobilization, nevertheless, we understand that the mobilization reserve is large in russia, will this war be until the 25th year, mr. kirill , what are your predictions for such a step, it is such an ungrateful thing that when we can say more... approximately what will happen in a week, for

two, very tentatively in a month, because the situation may hardly change, this month or two months, but it may change in a trial, in a day, in two, it may change radically, someone makes a tactical mistake, someone uses it, everything, that is forecasts for a year, and when they say what will happen in a year, that the war will last 8 years, well, for the military it's just ridiculous, no one knows what will happen in a year, how it will be in a year, but... shoigu's statement that by the 25th year they will complete the so-called svo, achieve their goals, it seems to me that this is just to to reassure the internal audience, because, well, the dollar costs 100 rubles, there are many questions, cars are not allowed , cars with russian license plates are confiscated in europe, and the russians probably start to grumble a little, at least in the kitchens, and he will be reassured that we have to wait another year, in a year we will finish everything, everything will be fine, hold on,

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may shock you. news from the scene, live. drone attacks, kamikaze. political analytics, about actively and meaningfully, there is no political season, exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front, a shot, svoboda life frankly and impartially, you draw your own conclusions. dear friends, serhii zorets, military expert, director of the company, is back on the air. mr. sergey, good morning to you, good morning, i congratulate you, actually, mr. sergey, let's analyze the current the situation on the front, which, if you would note for the last time, well, when we talk about the two hottest areas, it is exactly the fighting around bahomut, where

the fighting is going on behind avdiivka, and the situation in the south, where around... .botenny, there are counterattacks from our side and from the russian side, there was information that our troops entered the northern part of novoprokopivka, then there were enemy counterattacks, we were driven out, now there are counterattacks again from our side, it is very hot there, and returning to bakhmut, where we now see one of the sites from the third assault brigade, i would consider the hysteria that is currently spreading on russian channels, where one of them wrote that the ukrainian side also has artillery, manpower, and management. and with us, that is, with the enemies, they say that we are holding on for the time being, because there are reserves, when there are no reserves and there is no mobilization, the situation will be quite

tragic, so we can see that the pressure on the enemy, around bakhmut, is being felt, despite those reserves that the enemy transferred to this area. well, let's also discuss after all, and the terrible tragedy that happened in the village of groza, it is quite far from the front , people definitely did not expect the arrival of this missile, iskander or whatever it was, by the way, we talked about the russian human rights defenders, if possible name yulia latynina, who wrote about the fact that it was just people who all came with mobile phones included, iskander, he just reacted to it like this to himself, well, to himself from no no no from...' he reacted to the strategy in general russian federation, and so on inflicts terrorist missile strikes. of course, well, it is so, well, big. tragedy, but it fits perfectly into the actions that the russian federation is currently carrying out, carrying out strikes on civilian cities, there was such

a harsh reaction on the part of our president, but we see that we simply need to strengthen our capabilities to fight against russian means of influence, we hope that , which germany promises us, regarding the strengthening of the anti-aircraft defense, will also be important in order to minimize such enemy missile strikes, although recently, by the way, in addition to the use of missiles on line... collision, the use of these planning bombs has increased, now we see these images of yesterday's tragedy, by the way, there were only 300 people living in the village, yes, that is, actually 50 people, that's every sixth person, died because of the impact of a russian missile and the son and widow of that fallen soldier also died in commemoration of whose memory just... fellow villagers gathered, it really is such a terrible tragedy, so returning to the means of enemy influence along the front line

, the use of these planning bombs increased, and it is the same says that the enemy is being reformatted, and fearing our pppo, began to more actively use these gliding bombs with a range of up to 40 km with a weight of 250 and 500 kg, this is also very worrying now, our military on the contact line, in particular under the same bakhmut, there were six such attacks yesterday , where these dominant bombs were used, well, there is still no solution to this, to this threat, i understand that until we have enough of the same f6s, it will still remain a threat, it is absolutely right, right now there was an assessment by the american side that the f16s will be primarily used for air defense, so that the planes of the russian federation could not... be able to approach our borders, in particular, use the same hovering air bombs, which

are extremely difficult to shoot down with ground anti-aircraft defense , by the way, after all the talk about the fact that two, if not two weeks, then two months would be enough there to transfer, fly in and already function at 16, we see that it was after all, then everyone pounced on ignat, who he said, well a person just says it as it is, everyone doesn’t like it, but what kind of pessimism, and two weeks will be enough, let’s go to 16, well now, moonfish, one of the pilots, ukrainian, who is already working, with f-16s, there abroad, he says that it will take somewhere up to 9 months , but he will still take it, we did it, by the way, we did an interview with moonfish, where he said that it really is six months at least, and this is actually normal, because mastered well enough, we will have less problems later in the air, i think that here the americans are so conservative, considering there a 2-year experience... the use of f16s in different versions, i think that this is a completely balanced approach, the main thing is that the pilots are now

trained in techniques that are also such an integral symbiosis in order for this weapon in the form of the f16 to be used effectively on the battlefield, so we're really looking forward to having these aircraft in the sky, first for anti-aircraft missions, and then to work on the ground, on enemy targets, which we also desperately need, these capabilities to accompany our next. actions, mr. sergius, olaf scholz, chancellor of germany, again began to argue about the fact that he does not know whether to provide taurus missiles to ukraine, because this can lead to an escalation of the conflict, i no longer know what is true, how much further escalation can be, if even yesterday's attack on the village thunderstorm, remember, or today's attack on kharkiv, already under the rubble, a body was found. child's body when we talk about the plan, by the way, all the means of armed

struggle have already been used by russia in this war, with the exception of nuclear weapons. all other infectious weapons are also strategic bombers, and submarines, and long-range impression systems, all this is already being used by the enemy, so that i think, in fact, it is impossible to talk about any kind of escalation, because everything is exactly where russia is. at the peak of the application of its combat capabilities, and we essentially knocked down this peak due to the courage of our soldiers, regarding the position of olaf scholz, then we will remember that again we are waiting there for these connections of the taurus attacks, the taurus will attack, i think that in fact there will be the other, somewhat later, but not to criticize at all scholz, i will still say that significant assistance to ukraine in air defense equipment has been declared, he promises to give, we can see them flying now, i think they will soon be flying at the enemy, but scholz promises to hand over another

patriot complex within 3 months , 12 cheetahs, new rst complexes, and this is precisely for the protection of the southern parts of our country, in particular for the protection of grain infrastructure there and so on, so they say, i am talking about the fact that, well, germany makes a significant contribution to strengthening our defense capabilities, and when we if we get tauruses in addition to patriots, then it will be a complete set of what germany could give us and i think it will. well, i will ask another question, that is, we see two trends that are unfolding in parallel now, on the one hand, we hope for even more shells next year, because after all, production is increasing, maybe there is even more help, on the other hand, there is an if and this aptoma is growing a little, and some different political trends are taking place in different countries, that is, after all, what will be

the strategy in your opinion, in fact, what will be trend in the next year, what about the necessary weapons? in fact, i think next year we're going to have a story where there's not going to be enough ammunition on both sides, because right now the stockpiles are depleted on both sides , both from the russian federation and from european countries, and when we talk about increasing the production of ammunition, then, only at the end of the 24th year, europeans and americans together will reach the number of somewhere up to 200 thousand per month and because now these indicators are much smaller, so the next the year will be difficult with regard to ammunition, and i think that the importance of using it in the future, or the reserves of the american army, or the expansion of the use of these atakams, will be important here, and this will affect the nature of the hostilities, in general, everyone really says that it is necessary to speed up

the work defense industries of all countries, and this flywheel will actually gain momentum not at the beginning of the year, but only at the end of the next year, so that the next year from the point of view of the need for weapons will be appreciably associated with shortages and shortages, and as for this one, by the way of iraqi weapons and what are their stocks in the arsenals, which they seem to be able to transfer to ukraine, this could be something, when we talk about iraqi weapons, it is a component related to ground, a significant amount of ground equipment, but i would rather talk about those the significant stockpile that remains in the pentagon, when we're talking about thousands of bradleys, thousands of abrams , that's a stockpile that the united states doesn't really need in a war with china, and that's a big stockpile that i think there really could be transferred to ukraine next year to compensate for losses and increase the capabilities of our ground units, well,

thank you very much, mr. serhiy, serhiy zgorets was with us, military expert, director of the company. defense express and one more hour of our marathon is coming to an end, we remind you that at 9:00 in the morning, all of ukraine and all ukrainians around the world remember the minutes of silence, all those whose lives were cut short by russian aggression, so remember today also the ten-year-old boy who died, who was found under the rubble after the night shelling of kharkiv in the center of kharkiv and also remember to all those people who died in yesterday's blow. russian iskander, this is what the center of kharkiv looks like now, well, yesterday, let's recall, a sixth part of the village in kharkiv oblast was killed, from the impact of the russian iskander and nothing remained of the cafe. dear friends, we would like to remind you that our collection is ongoing, it is moving a little slowly today, i understand that tonight was a restless night in ukraine, but nevertheless, come on, come on,

we will convert all our anger and pain into our donations, our military , because they will destroy muscovites, now a moment of silence. let's honor the memory of ukrainian soldiers and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war