glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health, today in the program. bloody attacks on the kharkiv region for the second day in a row, the terrible consequences of the russian attack on the center of kharkiv, reforms in ukraine, eu and us demands and the scandalous concept of the shmyhal government. will the deputies clear ukraine of kremlin agents in ryasy? the verkhovna rada finally gathered votes for a ban on the pcp. on the verge of a collision with the west, putin cannot win the war, but he does not know how to get out of it? we will continue to talk about this and other things today the next hour with people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy honchare. special officer ihor

lapin and political expert volodymyr tsybulko. friends, for those who are watching us live now on youtube. please like this video, take part in our survey, today we ask you about the following. do you support the idea of ​​banning the activities of the branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine? yes, no, please vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results. of this vote, your option if it is different from simple answers yes, no, please write under this video why we are asking this, because this week 226 votes were collected in the verkhovna rada of ukraine in order to consider in the parliament the issue of banning the activities of the branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, that church, which works for vladimir putin and the entire

propagandist russian machine, and therefore , we need to put an end to this story, i hope that during today's program we will repeatedly return to this topic, and we should have a people's deputy in contact oleksii goncharenko of ukraine, please tell me if he is, mr. oleksii, i congratulate you , i am glad to see you on our air, i congratulate you, mr. oleksii, for the second time, in the last two days, russian occupiers are killing civilians in the kharkiv region. yesterday , 51 residents of the village of groza in the kupyan region died at the hands of the occupiers, today two residents of kharkiv died in the city center. the un high commissioner for human rights condemned the attack on the village of groza, kupyan district , kharkiv region , and sent a field team there to gather more information about this is a violation of russia, the laws and customs of war.

we hear what the spokeswoman for the office of the un high commissioner for human rights, elizabeth trossell, had to say. obviously, this strike is one of the deadliest since february 24, 2022, but certainly not the only one. the un high commissioner for human rights, volker türk, who has seen the terrible consequences of such strikes with his own eyes, is deeply shocked and condemns these killings. he sent a group of owls to the scene to talk to those who... still lived there, but it was clear that this great tragedy had affected everyone in this small community, with one rocket, what they did there, they buried the whole village, in each house, now there will be one grave, and that's at once, five graves at once, three graves.

i don't know, we all have a few relatives here, a terrible tragedy, another one, the world must stop the country of terrorists, obviously, but we also see that stopping the country of terrorists still fell on the shoulders of ukraine, so thank god, they help us with weapons, there they help with sanctions, but... we have to do all this ourselves, this whole situation, everything is happening, and this next terrible terrorist attack shows that the mechanisms of world security , the united nations organization, are not really working, and in fact, nothing can be done, but the commissioner said, well, what 's next, any resolution to the council i'm sorry, that's how russia is, unfortunately, when we have a permanent member with a nuclear state

, albeit an illegal permanent member, as russia is illegal, but it is very difficult to find justice for us, but we will try to do it, we we must have, the investigation has identify all those involved in this attack, and further, a tribunal, perhaps a hybrid one, about which, in principle, ukraine has been preparing for a long time, including together with the council of europe, and with the countries that are members of the council of europe, maybe we will have it there we will be able to launch it soon, and within the framework of this tribunal, all these criminals must be held accountable, and of course , the main criminal is vladimir putin , who started all this, who kills people, it’s just terrible, what can i say, mr. oleksiy, you mentioned that international structures, well, in fact, they cannot do anything to the russian

federation, we remember how during the second world war we already saw that the league of nations did not work, but before that the league of nations excluded the soviet union from this organization, it was in 193'69, when the soviet union attacked finland, and it was a sign, for the soviet union, for hitler, it was none, there was no sign, but at least the soviet union paid for its place in the league of nations. you mentioned the possibility of excluding russia from the un security council, we also remember that in 1991, when the soviet union collapsed, russia became the successor of the soviet union in the organization of the united nations. and this very norm about how they acquired membership in both the security council and the united nations also raises a lot of questions, including legal ones, because ukraine and the belarusian socialist republic, which was part of the soviet union and the ukrainian ssr, they were

the founders of the un, and the rsfsr was not the founder of the un, can we, taking into account the complex of crimes committed by putin on ukrainian soil, demand the return legal, including a return to the fact that russia has been there illegally for 30 years, we just need to put an end to this issue once and for all, we can demand it, and we even have to, but let's be objective, it won't happen, but why then do i say that we can and we should, well, first of all, because we are telling the truth, and the truth must always be told, russia is not legal in the un, russia is not the law in rotbez. and russia should not be there, also i think that there is a very high probability that after this war, changes in the reformation of the un, or perhaps even the creation of a new organization may take place, and our task is that already in this new organization, or after those changes and reforms, russia no longer has any

veto, any privileged place, and that is why we have to talk about it today, so that russia or what will happen, someday, i'm sure, it will fall apart, i don't know when it will happen. but i am sure that this collapse will happen, and there will be some kind of its successor, muscovy, or whatever it will be called, so that they will not have any special places in the international security system had, but now we have to be objective, we can call, say, no one in russia will survive their birth, and in fact , it is not, not the right, not some legal things, but a very simple thing, nuclear weapons, this week sir.. oleksiy, you demanded a meeting with president zelenskyi, you publicly addressed the president of ukraine and said that as any deputy, you can apply for a meeting with zelenskyi, what did you want to say to zelenskyi and did you receive any response from the office of the president of ukraine ,

whether there is a meeting with zelensky in the schedule people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko. yes, i officially appealed to president zelensky. i really want to meet, now i’ll tell you why and what topics i want to discuss, or i don’t have an answer yet, zelensky, i don’t know if he’s already returned since yesterday, he was in spain, maybe he’s on his way, obviously, i didn’t expect it, that it will know right now, however, i will definitely report the results, i am doing this for the first time, for this parliament was elected in the 19th year, yes, more than ... years of my tenure, i am using for the first time it right, and i think the president should meet with me, because once every four years you can find time for a people's deputy who wants to meet, and the honest law allows me to do that, and as for what i want

to talk about , i have to be honest, i want to say that i think we are now in a very dangerous moment, i think it can be compared to march 20, maybe not the end of february, but march 22 it is possible, you see perfectly what is happening in international politics, some crazy challenges and congress, the usa, and poland, and many trends are dangerous for us, and i have something to say here, i have a specific plan, for example, how to work with the united states, i have repeatedly presented this plan there, to zelenskyi's advisers, to those close to him there persons, i tried to explain to them that this is important, unfortunately, nothing was done and now we have, in fact, a loss of at least partial support for ukraine from the republican party, this is one of the two. party, key united states of america,

it is necessary to understand that next year there will be elections in the usa, we do not know who will lead, will become the president, maybe it will be a republican, we do not know, and this could have catastrophic consequences for us, we already have problems because of the fact that in congresses don't support us, so uh, we have to work here, and we have to, i have a clear plan, how it should be in shifts, how people's deputies should work at the parliamentary level, how it should work at the level of... states, remember that the u.s. - this is a federal state, a federal state, and not only in washington it is necessary to work, it is necessary to go to ohio, to tennessee, to pennsylvania, to texas and so on, and promote the necessary for ukraine, with the american media, that it is necessary to create news, that the one-man show performed by volodymyr zelensky is no longer working, it worked for a while, that's all, it is necessary to reread this story, it is something about international politics, well, definitely. dear europe, i also have something to say here, we are a partner of ukraine, so the second is definitely

an internal situation, and first of all , what worries me is that what is happening at the front, i'm not talking about military operations, i don't understand anything about it, but i know very well what is happening to our servicemen, their moods, their problems, and there are just a lot of problems, if we don't start solving these problems now, it's also extra payments , this is vacations, this is the most important thing, this is the question of demobilization. justice for people, because in our country it turns out that the war is for one million people who are serving and for their families and everything, and this is starting to split the country, and it is very hard on the military personnel, their moral and psychological state , and they should get it, i just submitted a bill to the verkhovna rada on demobilization after 18 months of service, maybe not 18 to 24, but you have to give people a deadline, it shouldn't be like there is an entrance and no exit, that the output is only 200 or 300, god forbid, it shouldn't be, that's why it's a very important topic, it can

only be decided by the president, but i have something to say and explain why it's important and why i'm emphasizing it, well i can continue, i also want to tell him why i am dangerous myself even the idea of ​​elections, which we see today that the authorities have begun to promote, elections that can finally split the situation that exists today, and become very not very... safe, because ukraine cannot fight at the same time, in the elections and fight for victory, our priority must be obvious. but according to your feelings, i understand, mr. oleksiy, that the ruling team , according to your information, is preparing for next year's elections, the presidential elections, the elections of the verkhovna rada, there are a lot of questions about how these elections will be held, who in them will participate, how will this right of military personnel be protected during the election campaign, if these elections are held suddenly, if the verkhovna rada suddenly

makes additional changes to the law, there are a lot of questions, how to count the votes, or how to ignore them currently occupied districts of kherson, zaporizhia, donetsk and luhansk, additional changes to the law, there are a lot of questions, how to count votes , or how not to take into account the currently occupied districts of kherson, zaporizhia, donetsk and luhansk, additional changes to the law, there are very many questions, how to count votes, or how to ignore the currently occupied districts of kherson, zaporizhzhya, donetsk , and luhansk, additional changes to the law, there are a lot of questions, how to count votes, whether.

how not to take into account the additional changes to the law of the currently occupied districts of kherson, zaporizhia, donetsk and luhansk, there are a lot of questions, how to count votes , or how to not take into account the additional changes to the law of the currently occupied districts of kherson, zaporizhia, donetsk and luhansk, there are a lot of questions, how to count votes, or. how not to take into account the currently occupied districts of khersonsk, zaporizhia, donetsk and luhansk, additional changes to the law, there are a lot of questions, how to count votes, or how not to take into account the currently occupied districts of khersonsk, zaporizhia, donetsk and luhansk, it is true, the close cooperation of the russian intelligence network with the political office of the fsb on the territory of ukraine , which is in many offices, and we have already talked about it more than once, these are precisely all these things that

are aimed at undermining national security, of the state of ukraine. and i emphasize once again, communication with society. communication with our western partners, outreach work and the decision of the verkhovna rada regarding the ban. in this way , the pechersk lavra, and more than one lavra, is released at once. we see what the russian world, the russian language, and the russian church are leading to, we still lacked enough to continue, let's say, fight forever. mr. major, this week in am. in america, in the congress of the united states of america, there were very dramatic events, a bill was passed on the interim budget for 45 days, which does not take into account additional funding for military aid to ukraine, after which the speaker of the lower house of the united states of america resigned, or rather was sent to

resign, kevin mccarthy, and now the question is what happens next. .. will be with funding, well, it is clear that the whole world is looking at the americans, because the americans here are our biggest donors and the people who support us in this war, financially and with weapons, let’s hear what volodymyr zelenskyy said about the situation that is developing in united states of america from the perspective of europe and ukraine. so the situation with the united states is dangerous, so is yours. period for the united states, and of course it is a difficult period for ukraine, but it has not been easy for us since the first days of full-scale war, so we are ready for any difficult period. it is very important for us that europe and the usa are also ready to work together so as not to lose this unity. and i think my signals today were for the european leaders. the united states did support europe,

have supported ukraine for a long time, it is true, and europe has supported ukraine, but i think that now is the time, the time of challenges, when europe is a strong leader in the world and should support the united states, but the president of ukraine did not say one more thing, that the big challenge is now also facing the ukrainian state, what and how the ukrainian government is doing, because we know that there are reservations from the united states of america and demands for reforms, we know that the european union is also now saying that ukraine must do a lot in order to moving forward, we know there are anti-corruption requirements , in your opinion, how do the requirements and what the american officials articulate and what they don't articulate, how do they affect the situation with the allocation of money to us from the state budget of the united states of america? come on, the usurpation of power and

the politics of diplomacy and rudeness are producing results today, and unfortunately, the results are disappointing for ukraine. the western world cannot be fascinated by zelenskyi's charisma for very long, continue, applaud and turn a blind eye to all the things that today the trash created by zelenskyi's team. i won't mention shurma, tatarov, yermakki, i'll just say zelenskyi's team. will aid for the ukrainian people stop? well, we know, we are already seeing the first swallows, we also recently heard the statements of the president of lithuania ne useda , who said that corruption is one of the reasons for the slowdown in decision-making regarding aid, and this slowdown led to the fact that some countries, like slovakia, they have already held elections, made some kind of statement

about slowing down in general, not just slowing down, but stopping, well, considering the position of the pro-russian government, which has won there now, we see that the policy of diplomacy and rudeness has led to a scandal in poland, and we are already hearing ambiguous statements from the polish side that they are there will stop making payments to ukrainian refugees, and of course there is a pressing issue, now not only about grain, it seems like it can be settled somehow, but in general there is the issue of aid to ukraine. it seems that that the western partners, pouring huge funds here, saw that no one thought strategically with these funds , strategic things were not done with these funds for the defense of ukraine, that is , to help us in the economy, they watched us, as we, roughly speaking, eat these funds, at the same time we are not building anything of our own, well, in fact, we are not building, i cannot say that it is everywhere, but... nevertheless, and this is how it looks in my opinion, what they say today, anu- come on, people, try it yourself, show that you yourself are capable, well, because

well, that's the story, that's how it looks, zelenskyi said one more phrase today and this quote has already been spread, that in principle, the issue of ukrainian corruption, that it's simply fake news from russian propaganda, and they 're spreading it all, and you there are fools here, well, he didn't say it literally, but he said that, so there is no corruption , because it's all russian fake news, even before that he said that what are you worried about, no one steals your money, corrupt officials do not have access to your money, but they steal money ukrainian taxpayers, that is, he is actually, well, trying, i apologize, to pour something in their eyes and convince them that it’s all god ’s dew, no, it doesn’t work like that, geopolitical processes, they don’t... work, as zelensky thinks, i’ll come , here the ukrainians are fighting, and therefore everyone must help us, no, it doesn’t work like that either, regarding the resignation of makahni , well, i’ll say this, my, well, this is my opinion on

this matter, i don’t know if it’s good or bad , but it seems to me that the weak speaker mccartney was not very beneficial to the democrats in including, well, first of all, the democrats gave the majority of their votes for this resignation, actually playing along with the trumpists, and mccartney stood on such a stretch that he actually. was tied, so he was tied to the opinion of even one republican congressman who could put his resignation to a vote, so he had to be so docile that it's either resign or you're docile, and that stretch doesn't play much , to the benefit, i believe , of american politics, so in principle , the democrats here just gave their votes for mccartney's resignation. the second thesis, we remember the thesis of biden, who said that we are ours, what we promise, we fulfill, like, you also fulfill, mr. mccartney, but i understand that once the votes were given, then he did not

fulfill , what is inside them, of course, we cannot know the details, how risky it is for ukraine, well, a reserve in the form of 5 billion, there is an extra 5.3 billion, if i am not mistaken, a reserve to help ukraine, it can work in principle a few more months, again depending on the nomenclature, because for this money you can transfer several javelin trucks or, for example , conditionally one atakams, one rocket, well, for example, and that is why in this context of dependence on the nomenclature the term