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is going to suspend hostilities, simply because russia will run out of any material resources for the continuation of such a high-intensity war, is it possible to calculate whether it will happen or not at all and when it will happen? i consider 0% of that probability, they have enough material resources, and even if we look at next year's budget, there is a substantial increase in military spending, they are now devaluing the ruble precisely in order to have... more funds in order to to finance the war, well, the military production, well, they will continue this, circumvent sanctions, they can, in order to get certain microcircuits there and everything else that is needed for the production of missiles, well, social programs, they can theoretically suffer, but i believe that it will not be something radical
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their reduction, so far there are countries that buy oil and gas, well, this will continue, i see no hope that we will be able to convince india or china there to stop trading with russia, that’s it, it won’t happen, and exactly that's why i emphasize it again, a change of power, a change of power - this the only one, and this is important, because the elite is getting tired , the elite also wants an exit from the war, but if they have... there will be hope that they can wait and everything will be fine, but they will not move anywhere. and what is the russian elite, you can ask, who are these people who can decide about something, something in this life, patrushev and naryshkin? well, it is also me, it is also the top, also the leadership of russia, but of course, there naryshkin and patrushem will not do anything there, but the government, the so-called systemic liberals, they...
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want to return to normal life, they they also do not care from the point of view of the war, they do not see war crimes there and have some illusions there that they are europeans there, in their minds, no, this, this, this is not true, but they want to go to europe, they want , there on the côte d'azur there, to rest, they, they want... a normal life for themselves , to unfreeze the sanctions, the opportunity to spend their money, they want their children to study in the west, that's all they want, but here the question is where risk, what risk, what to do, or wait, now the risk to do, much more than waiting, then it is necessary for them to understand that it is impossible to wait, it is more dangerous to wait, that there are
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threats to their personal life, property, and everything else, and this is likely to be done , but here the position of the west, the collective west of the ramshtein coalition, it is critically important, if we talk about the position of the west, there is no such confusion regarding the fact that, in fact, we now see already obvious tendencies towards the possible. relaxation of the level of aid to ukraine, well, again , so that the relaxation is not, but not us yet is okay with the current level of aid, we need new weapons, we need missiles, we need f-16s, so we need increased aid, and here is, again, again, again the question and we see what is happening now in the united states,
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from the point of view of the pre-election races, well, what is there now with the suspension of the budget aid , well, it is temporary, it is just a temporary inconvenience, they will return to normal , for now the democrats are there, it will continue, but they have the same thing, they have no exit strategy, they have no strategy the end of this war, and ukraine does not offer them this strategy, they just...' we just say that we want to liberate our territory there, well, but this is not the end of the war, it is a tactical victory, but it is not a final victory , the final victory in moscow. thank you, mr. eli, ilya panomav, russian, former deputy of the state duma of the russian federation, we were in touch, and now we will talk about ukrainian european integration, with ivanna klympushtsadze, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the committee on integration of ukraine to the union, congratulations, ms. ivanna, glad to see,
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therefore, let's try to sum up the results of the granada summit of the european political community, how successful this summit was. for ukrainian interests, we say, i just wanted to clarify how successful this summit was for whom, because, well, first of all, we must also understand that this is a summit during which european leaders set themselves the task of starting an internal discussion that would concern in which way and how further the european union should develop, taking into account what is actually happening last year. when ukraine and moldova received candidate status, a new policy was launched, a new stage of the expansion of the european union, today there is an awareness that, for sure, this wave of expansion, when it will happen, will not
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be limited to one or two countries, it will and should include wider circle of the country, it means certain, certain changes. to which the european union would internally have to carry out additional reforms in order to quite likely change its decisions, there are separate approaches to decision-making inside of the european union, it is possible to change its strategies, its policies in one or another economic area, areas, but it must also calculate its financial capabilities in order to maintain... this is the balance, well-being and development that has been invested in for many, many years decades and at the same time expand the circle of countries that would be included in the space of peace, security, development and opportunities, therefore all these
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things, precisely these things were given, well, a new beginning, or rather, a new, new such impulse was given. at this summit, obviously there were no decisions, no decisions were made on this matter, there is a final declaration, which actually, well, shows the way in which the european union will further discuss these issues, but it is very good that president zelensky was invited not only to the meeting, the european political community, and actually was also invited to the conversation of the leaders of the countries, the european union to the summit of the european union. obviously, this made it possible for the president to hold additional bilateral meetings with individual partner countries, which now allows him to count
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for additional, military, financial aid, which should come from these countries, and this is important, it is good that it happened, and at the same time, you and i... understand that , obviously, we do not have the opportunity to stop there and we have no right, but tell me, mrs. ivanna, what is happening at the summit of the european union itself, in fact, the impossibility of making a single decision on migration, the open opposition of hungary, the less open, but nevertheless obvious opposition of poland, does n’t that say that the european union is in a state of such a serious crisis, i think it is too early to talk about the crisis in which the european union is in, but there are definitely very tough challenges in the european union, and unfortunately, these challenges, they did not happen today
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, yes, and they have been developing over the past few years, and the european union, well , let’s say, with a limited number of instruments... responded to these challenges internally, within this entity, this community, and here are these limitations in the provision of financial assistance, the same hungary or earlier , as well as poland, which changed due to the fact that poland at that time took a completely different and serious position of support for ukraine and financial resources that were also important for the polish economy were unlocked to a certain extent, all these things were insufficient. we in order to return, well, hungary in particular, to the direction of real, let's say, usual european cooperation, and we allowed it to continue a certain blackmail within the european union,
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so i think that today it is about the limitation of those tools that allow himself to use the european union, at this stage, and to those countries that try to be ashamed on two chairs, as the prime minister of hungary does, he is simultaneously holding hostage on many issues, including on many issues that concerning ukraine, in particular, the additional tranche of military aid for ukraine shared on the territory of the european union, in particular, in relation to the all-time permanent relaxation of the sanctions packages adopted by the european union until now, at the expense of self-dealing some things for hungary, some exceptions and so on, that's it, we see... that, unfortunately, the european union has not developed and no, it has not
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made the tools with which it could, if you will, give internally to those who at the same time, he is trying to use the positives of being inside the european union and at the same time to undermine it, with his behavior, by the way, chancellor orlav scholz, during one of his speeches in grannac, said that it is necessary to think about reforming the european union if he wants to accept new members , that is, it is meant whether is it possible in such a large european union, which will arise if the countries of the western balkans, ukraine and moldova, are invited to join it, to adhere to this principle of unanimity, which is still evident for the european union, or is it possible, in connection with the increase in the number of countries, to increase the european commission all the time, yes that it will soon be the largest government in the world, is it possible to endlessly increase the european parliament ?
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are the european union ready for such a discussion? well, by the way, regarding the fact that in order to move from consensus decision-making to some other type of decision-making, in particular issues in the european union, it is about such a debate that the first chicken, in order to decide on a change, you need consensus, and here i think it will be quite difficult to reach this consensus for the countries of the european union, this is exactly one of those things that i was talking about, and the change of possible, possible approaches to decision-making, to the principles of decision-making and to how it, how it works today in the european union, by the way, it was once in the european constitution, which was proposed by the former president of france, valerie jascardin, they already tried to do it, but they didn't do it and they didn't do it, so that's why... i think , that it will be quite difficult, especially you and i must understand that smaller countries, they will always try to hold on to
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their right as much as possible, that is, to have, if you want, a certain right of veto on certain decisions, compared to larger countries , larger countries, and more powerful, and economically more capable, they can more easily go to, well, to such non-consensus in... decision-making, because they somehow count on the fact that they can form certain internal coalitions within the european union to make this or that decision, and this is really difficult process, and i would not like us, well, for example, if we achieve those internal transformations that are necessary for us to be, really ready for membership in the european union, so that we find ourselves in a situation where, in fact, the european union , at that moment will not pass
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finally, the process of internal reformation and complete readiness for such, for such a serious wave of expansion , and what we are talking about, if we talk about the western balkans, the countries of the western balkans, and about ukraine and moldova, and we would like to hope that at some point and about georgia, and tell me, ms. ivanna, what do you think about this concept of saving democracy, which was handed over to the heads of the ukrainian government, the ambassadors of the sima group countries, i don’t know if the president of ukraine really gave it to the president of the usa, but the fact that he was represented by the ambassador of the sima group is an obvious thing, and yes, today , by the way, during the session of the parliament, for the first time during the full-scale invasion, the prime minister was present, who answered the questions of the parliamentarians, and i managed to take the floor and ask mr. shmygal to what extent, say, the plan of the expected forms from which we received from the united states of america is already strongly
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supported by some decisions and some plan for the implementation of the tasks of the transformation of the country from the ukrainian side, yes in response, i received that we have our own ukrainian vision, and we have just conveyed this concept of the maintenance, protection, and stability of democracy, it seems to me that in general, well, the prime minister added that it will be necessary to take into account the wishes, at the level of negotiations, and what comes from the international currency. fund and from the european union and the united states of america will continue to work on this document. but you know, i like this document, this concept, i would like to call it the concept of protecting sovereign democracy, do you remember what
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the russian federation called itself by such a neologism, it believed that it had some... such a special form of democracy and called it sovereign democracy, well, covering up its autocracy and its lack of balance authorities, real democratic procedures in the country, but only facade democratic procedures, the presence of which was covered up, with these own, this separate name, so it seems to me that this concept is exactly about this, and this is the impression, firstly, that it was written by different people, these five pages, it is understood that certain ... paragraphs were written by different people, this document definitely did not undergo any approval within the government, that is, it was not discussed in any way either with the parliament, or with public organizations, or with business associations, etc.
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i.e., this is another profanation, another er, a piece of paper, which also, unfortunately, says that the opinions of the country's leadership come from the executive power, and i think that this piece of paper was prepared not only in the cabinet of ministers, or by order of the cabinet, actually in the office the president, well, for today, this is their vision, how to destroy the remnants of democracy in ukraine and how not to build a successful and european, really capable, strong, developed country, what do you think? that in general the country's leadership has a chance to ignore these proposals made by our western countries, creditors, sponsors and just friends, and mr. vitaly, i am convinced that our country's leadership has no chance to ignore them, only the only thing that i i see that the leadership of our country believes that they
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can in some way, somehow deceive for to go between the dots, to offer your version or to call something in the wrong words and, well, in this way to manipulate the expectations of this dialog, which first of all involves trust, i am very afraid that ukraine should not lose trust today, this, this is the most expensive currency, which can be in ukraine today, and in order to be able to go and win on the battlefield, to be able to go and achieve our goals, including from the point of view of reforming the country, therefore we do not simply have the right to give the power today an opportunity, well to turn the country into some kind of complete absurdity and chaos, and therefore it seems to me that even
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in wartime, despite the fact that many believe that it is not time, not at... to set some red lines of power, it seems to me that it is time to tell the civil society that we know what we stand for, we know what we are fighting for, and we will certainly not allow our previous achievements to be destroyed, but will only force the authorities to build up real changes that will be important and useful for every citizen of ukraine. thank you, mrs. ivana, ivana klympush censad for a people's deputy. the head of the committee on ukraine's integration into the european union was on our broadcast, and now we will take a break for a few minutes, don't switch. pain can become an obstacle. walk up the stairs, not with my knees. for
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of regional cooperation, hello, mr. grigoryan, well, let's try to understand what happened in granada and what will happen after granada. a meeting between the presidents of azerbaijan, ilham aliyev, and the prime minister of armenia, nikol pashinyan, was expected, and they even talked about the possibility of signing. of france, azerbaijan, the european council and the prime minister of armenia, the federal chancellor of germany, but nothing happened, the president of azerbaijan spoke about the necessity of turkey's presence at such a meeting, then said that in principle he did not will come, but nevertheless in baku they say that a tripartite format is possible, and the european union, armenia-azerbaijan, do you expect the resumption of negotiations in such a format? well, first of all, i want to say that
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it was dangerous to go to granada after the classic ethnic cleansing that azerbaijan organized in nagorno-karabakh, so aliyev certainly did the right thing, aliyev knows the international rules of the game perfectly, ethnic cleansing in europe, he would it was difficult, so he didn't go, but i don't rule out the possibility that he is still in in october, he will go when he will, if and only if charles michel will be there, because germany and france have a tough position, they condemn ethnic cleansing, they condemn the use of force, so aliyev will go if olaf scholz and macron are not there. you know, i still want to ask you, what do you really think? you know, people have dreams, it was a dream
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, aliyev to get rid of the population of nagorno-karabakh , you can discuss, you can ask to protect him, you know, and i am not asking to protect anyone, it just seems to me that the project for aliyev, the reintegration of the armenian population is a much more profitable story than the departure of all people from this territory, well, i am not talking about dreams now, you know, because we can discuss dreams with you for an infinite amount of time and can even agree, i am talking about intentions , and i say mine. please don't interrupt me, i wanted my point of integration in words in reality, and i will say, don't interpret me, ask your questions, i'd rather
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have a good situation... your question is very similar to what lytin wants to negotiate with ukraine? at the fact that he is ready, he froze somewhere, mr. grigoryan, therefore, no, no, you will repeat it, because you interrupted, mr. gribakyan, you interrupted, here i agree with you, armenians. you will repeat, you interrupted, because that's why we didn't hear you, unfortunately, and now we'll take over mr. grigoryan so that we can clearly hear what he wants to say, sir, i 'll repeat it again then, we'll try, maybe it's just that we don't have a very good connection, now
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i'm redialing. we experts continue this ee conversation in the format in which we will be able to hear mr. grigoryan's thoughts about what happened in this situation that has developed in the relations between armenia and azerbaijan. oh, mr. hryhoryan, please repeat your answer, because i simply did not hear him and no one heard him, we simply lost connection. well, look, of course, ilhamalyev wanted to get rid of the population of nagorno-karabakh and thus resolve the issue ethnically, this is very similar to what ilham aliyev says, that he wanted to integrate, it is very similar to what putin says to ukraine, that he wants peace very much, he tells the international community that
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he wants peace, but nothing. he does not want peace, he wants to enslave ukraine, it will not work, ukraine will win, but aliyev is doing the same here, there is no difference, authoritarian leaders use the same methods, lies and force, but the main point here is still the same, and what interest was there in expulsion of the armenians of nagorno -karabakh, what was russia's interest, if aliyev's interest was understandable, he expelled the population, there are no people, there are no problems. in the case of putin the expulsion of the armenians was definitely connected with the fact that this large flow of refugees from nagorno-karabakh to armenia could lead to a change of power, so putin wanted the expulsion of the armenians in order for there to be a change of power in armenia, and he can achieve all this or not maybe
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well, time shows that no, it doesn't work, because people figured it out, people figured it out well, and no one is going to riot, no one is going to hold big rallies, everyone understood that the interests of azerbaijan and russia coincided here, interests, accents are different, but the common interest is the same, the expulsion of armenians from their historical land, from nagorno-karabakh, and tell me, please, how do you explain what putin says, that armenia recognized the territorial integrity of azerbaijan, what could we do , but after all, armenia has always, as far as i remember, recognized the territorial integrity of azerbaijan ever since the almaty declaration, which was written and signed some 30 years ago, when you and i were still young people, you know vitaliy, this is a very good question, and i always ask the question, does the principle of territorial integrity presuppose the expulsion of the population from their families, does it not, that is,
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the principle of territorial integrity presupposes the solution of problems.

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