[000:00:00;00] to accept that everything is a betrayal, we have been sold, everyone is abandoning us, well, calm down, well, there is turbulence, yes , the americans have programs there that have already been approved, they work there, they get this money, they have invested so much money in their military industry that just throw it like that, well, that’s it, well, let’s leave it, yes, to dispersal , the europeans have the same thing , don’t worry, the most important thing here is that our policy should work very well, not to disperse treason and keep order, well, we ’ll actually talk about it today, mr. valery, please tell me your vision or first of all, europe will have to support itself so much and whether it will be able to do it, and then, we do not encourage treason, we understand that the processes are objective, the elections in poland are objective, the elections in the united states are objective, well, mccartney was removed not only because of ukraine, but the consequences also affect us, i think that rather, europe, because i don't want to, because i can't, will do it, because for a very long, long time,

in fact, about one and a half years. biden proved to the europeans that friends, well, you will wake up, in the end you have to realize the threat that is in front of you, not in front of us, we are there, but for some reason europe thought that everything should be done, washington and everything will be okay, today's statement by barel, it was indicative, we cannot do it alone, we we can't do it ourselves, we need the usa, but the signal is very clear, you should mobilize and do everything to be able to do it, because the money is for various humanitarian programs. the plan of social subsidies for agriculture is sufficient for the eu member states. there is a problem, the eu is like that a living organism that lives its own life, complex processes take place there, it is not by chance that the question of reforming the european union arises, the european union simply has no way out, no thanks, in a super situation the european union will be forced to talk not only about the economy, because it was the issue number one since its creation eu, not only about politics, what

they have now learned to say, even. at one time, macron spoke from lisbon to vladivostok, yes, nowadays, well, at least to luhansk, that will also be fine, and now they have to think about defense, because they even have the republicans said during trump's time that, friends, you must understand that 5 cents, i apologize for this expression, but it will not be enough for you to warn of a military threat in the future, today it is obvious, that is why the discussion really warned, but they did in the face and said that what will happen, so i think, i am convinced that this will be all, the only thing is that now we are in such a really turbulent process, when there are a lot of political disputes, and we have reservations about this, the numbers have already been calculated , everything will be normal, but time we must return to europe, talking about turbulence in the context of the united states, after all, the first resignation of speaker mccartney in history, how it is firstly related to ukraine and how it will affect us, in your opinion, to what extent can speakeriad to drag on in the united states, if

you consider that this one. got my position from the 15th, it seems to me, together, well, i will continue with your permission, you know, there is also a lot of betrayal, they say that everything is lost, let's look at it from another angle, this is a completely different opportunity for to try, at least to appoint a candidate who would be supported by both democrats and republicans, especially now that the cans have been opened, in europe it is slovakia, in the united states of america, it is this small wing of eight representatives of the house, eight members of the house of representatives who started to make the weather and they think that they can do everything, they can break everything, and this is a very good story, now there is an opportunity to find a compromise figure, so it will not be easy, it will be difficult, trump said me too already ready, yes, well, such an interesting idea from him, well, what can be expected from trump, yes , what constancy in his thoughts, it's not about him, and that's why i think that the speakeriad in the house

of representatives, it will not last long. well, i can admit that it is possible that this process will continue for up to a month, however, the probability of finding such a candidate is very, very high, moreover, the republicans themselves are interested in this process, they are interested in solving the party, republican crisis, it is obvious well, they have, why do they have all this discord, i understand that even among the democrats there are those who are against supporting ukraine, well, there are such rare cases, but in general , in my opinion, this is a good story, i am speaking now without exaggeration, and i have a clear hope and expectation that there will solve this issue positively, including the keys for us, it's just that if you are talking about the term of a month, then it seems to me that this is an optimistic option, we are afraid that it will drag on for a quarter and beyond, well , look, well wait, why do we say that everything is from one person it depends, it is not an authoritarian regime, it depends on one person in russia, there is a procedure, there is a procedure, there are many mechanisms

that work in parallel, okay, there is no conditional, which functions are performed there, this does not mean that oh, flat tire, so what to do, well, spare, let's go, the military download program , i also agree that, well, listen, we all know, it's no secret that the republicans, it's... big, big supporters of the military industrial complex, yes, the military industrial complex , disperse him, yes, there was so much money, and they well, well, look, they don’t reason by the categories of the russians, we invested, well, we burned , well, what about him, no, they are trying to meet with this money, later, yes, they ask the question, what, when we meet with them , under what circumstances, there in 10 years, so be it, the dollar is stable for them, they don't measure it by yuan there, they invested money, the company is recruiting. new people, capacity is being expanded, land is being bought, specialists are being trained, machines are being ordered, there are some rare earth metals, if it is a very thin technology there, they order it, and here they say, no, guys, we are stopping, this will definitely not happen, there will be turbulence again, but they are helping us,

they are ready to invest in us even after afghanistan, when everyone left so well, humiliatingly, i i think that here it is fundamentally necessary to win in ukraine, okay, victory there is different, they reason , but don’t throw ukraine away with such investments, mr. oleksandr, to what extent do you agree with this interesting wording that the americans clearly want to understand when they will meet their money, no, i wanted to to add some skepticism to what my colleagues have said, this is actually a long-term crisis that could turn out to be very sad for the republican party itself, now the question is, depending on who will be elected speaker, and in principle there are several such strong candidates , this is jim jordan, this is the worst option for us, literally today he declared that he will not give a single, single cent to ukraine, and, but this will mean that trump won, conservatives, normal, i am

republicans, and he will absorb this party, and actually, it will be, well, for us, it will be catastrophic, i'm not talking about the republicans themselves, and for europe, because trump , you know, he's the kind of person who can decide over lunch to leave nato and then this whole structure of european security there is, for example, steve from the wheel - this is another candidate who can be elected and maybe even will be after several rounds of unsuccessful voting, they will agree that one will be the speaker, the other will be, let's say, as the leader of the majority, that's what they will be to lead and conduct politics together, that means republicans, so there is no problem , scalise is very good. for us, he is a candidate from those who were nominated, because he voted, just last week there was an attempt to vote for 300 million aid for ukraine, he was among those republicans who voted for, but this vote showed that we have 101 republicans in the house of representatives and

117 against us, this does not mean that all 117 will always be there, because ukraine is politicized there, it is not that they do not like us, yes, trump does not like us, it is clear why, because it seems to him that in the 16th last year we helped hillary clinton. because of him and everything else, and that's why, of course, he's angry, but others, they look, first of all, at the electorate, and the trumpian electorate, they say, we have our own problems, we have a war on the southern border, why are we we help ukraine, of course, there is no war there, here, but they talk about it in such a very, shall we say, extremist rhetoric, and by and large we see that, well, you know, first of all, they were right to say that 15 rounds beat before, you mean kevin mccarthy was elected and not a single democrat voted, and when he was being removed from his mandate, not the mandate, sorry, the position

, only eight republicans voted, and absolutely everyone present then was a democrat, that is, democrats will not vote for a trumpian who wants to be speaker, so it's problematic, i think a few weeks. they will try to agree, fight, vote, and then there will be a compromise figure, let's not say, a moderate trumpian, balanced by an immoderate trumpian, and of course trump's influence will be, he is extremely popular, especially with those cases against him, on the contrary, it encourages them, they believe that this is epstate, which means that it is a corrupt judicial system in general, but we see such things in trump, so the problems that we will have, i just don't i think we will say this, they will be before trump is elected president, that they will be bad , they will increase, mr. ivan, in your rather optimistic answers, you said that just because one person lost his office does not

mean that some mechanism will stop there, but for another, from a technical point of view, while there is no speaker, can we make a decision to restore this aid, which was not included in the temporary budget, but they are coming to us, they are going to arm us, they are supplying us, they are finding other ways, well, there, for example, iranian weapons were confiscated, they found ways, they worked there, yes, there are several million cartridges , there are small arms, of course, it is not what we expected, but nevertheless, we found what was lying in warehouses, now it will be, just like that , okay, we discover something, confiscate something, there is there, we return the mechanism to ukraine, that is, it will not lie in warehouses, it is not subject to disposal, it will go to ukraine, profit , well, profit profit, now we do not see big problems, ba baransky is a very interesting option, when a large number of cartridges were confiscated, yes and instead of destroying how little technology there is, it went, now i will say again , the program will already be worked out here, now they will even target, you see the weapons, we stop, confiscate, send to ukraine, profit, profit, normal, so there will be problems , but such that everything

has stopped, nothing is arriving, nothing is being brought, i think that this , this will not happen, well, that everything depends on one person, everything and aid to ukraine, well, you see, not on one person, on the contradictions that arise, in particular , as i understand it, ukraine is one of those topics of contradiction, if we have already entered the topic of elections, mr. valery, what do you think, going into the next almost year, to what extent will ukraine be a bargaining chip, to what extent will it be played under these, during these elections of the united states, and how to us a hostage to these big political games, i will add two words about monetary aid , because we also have to be aware of the denominations, that is , what amount is involved, 2.4 billion dollars, everyone forgets for this figure, how much we have already received, about 200 from the usa alone, various military, humanitarian, various aid , about 10 per month, that is, we understand the need that we need, what europe can give, what the usa is going to give, because we sprinkle our heads. when we get there, we say: my god, we will not receive 2 billion dollars a month, you

understand what a disaster this is for the next fiscal year, and along with that, we do not add up what europe can already do , what it is doing and will do, so perhaps the question should be asked in a different way, how critical is the united states of america's provision of this assistance today, or the question of solving it, to what extent are we asking this question correctly, i think that no , really, it is important, support... whatever it will be, in any case, it will come and there will be various joint programs and there will be a vote, i don't even doubt it, because rather, well may initiate, joseph biden and later the introduction of some kind of financial assistance, but as far as the election is concerned, it is definitely a success story for the democrats, well , one cannot help but talk about it, and for the republicans as well, because the republicans are interested in a success story, what will the voters say to republicans and democrats if they say oh wait right? in two years, 200 billion were flushed down the toilet, sorry, just

nowhere, show, you started to develop the military industry, as very rightly, mr. ivan notes, you invest money in the defense complex, yes, you stimulate europe to this, and you merge, you make it so that russia approaches the borders with europe, what next, you are in favor of euro-atlantic cooperation, you constantly emphasize that europe must readjust, i am you now speak in the voice of republicans and democrats as well. and the democrats too, and the democrats are interested in this, because i'm just not sure that the american voter usually thinks in such categories, very cheering, very cheering, i'll finish, yes, i'll finish, of course that this is the logic that the politicians of the united states of america should have, because they need to be accountable for the money they gave aid to ukraine, it was not by chance that they sent the pentagon inspector here, not by chance, of course you can argue that, wait, this is logic, yes , well, where is it present, well, if it is about russia.

they said, there is no logic there, but here it is correct, you are spending money , taxpayers, where, well, well, a territorial question, first of all, it was about 300 million, since 24 billion is what biden invited to the general budget annual, and they could not come to an agreement, so a resolution was voted for 45 days, and there was a question about 300 million, that is, first, this is the moment, secondly, the united states provided us with military aid of 49 billion. in total, there is a little more 100. now europeans european countries, including, i already have the eu plus britain provided more than 70, i do not remember 77 somewhere, 75, yes, that is, the question, this is a lot of money. the second point, the question is what can be given to us, because the united states is, let's say, an arsenal, an arsenal of democracy, as we have it it is called, yes, and it was called before, and therefore they can easily increase production, this is, firstly, secondly, issuing from their

warehouses, as they did, and then replenishing the actual one from one of the arguments for the republicans, we we give out the old, and for ourselves we make new at our own factories, for the republicans of the majority of the trumpians, ukraine is an irritant, they do not want to support us for simple reasons, because they have their own problems, which means, what about their tyranny, plus propaganda channels , as taklar say, and broken country we don't need it at all, let's focus on china, as for example, vivik, this ramasvani, says, yes, that we, i will come to an agreement with putin, well, ukraine will have to agree to lose part of the territory there. but then we will be together against china, that is, this porridge in the head of most trumpians is now up to congress, there is a problem in the house of representatives, it is unlikely to be solved in the near future, in the senate the situation is different, the republican leaders in the senate, they are for us , and steve mcconnell, and lynsey graham, they say, lynsey graham in general

said, 24 is not enough, biden gives very little money, we need to give 50-60 billion to ukraine so that it ends, that is... all this will be a duel, but the law will not be a law, if they do not vote a joint resolution, or rather, well they coordinate these things, and if there is a trumpian like jim jordan in the house of representatives, it will be extremely problematic, so i wouldn't put on rose-colored glasses, there will be problems, i'm not saying that the supply will stop, it will probably be on a smaller scale, but they will search in such ways as to take in the state department, the money that was for other people, for other countries should be transferred to us , so we will definitely have problems . to return to the question i asked, we will survive a month without one representative, the united states, to what extent these elections will play the card of ukraine and russia, and how can we not lose both aid and subjectivity

in this game, and i will be able to answer, see , first of all, ukraine will be played, in ukraine invested money, it's a big startup, yes. well, they invest money, everyone expects that there will be a certain profit in the form of what? in the form of liberated territories, show our voters what we have done , class, they invest, russia must either be stopped , or isolated, or ignored, well, or counteracted, well, whatever, some option of action must be taken, it will really be used , and the main question, as i see it, the more transparent the use of the aid that is given to us will be in ukraine, the fewer problems we will have across the ocean the more there will be reports that the inspector came and saw that there are some eggs there, i don't know , you buy pumpkins for the army there for $200, there will be problems if everything is clean here, if there are no complaints, then the western oppositionists will have nothing to cling to, i apologize for the slang, it is clear, there is no question

, there is corruption, for example, here and there in other spheres, well, it is, but with our help nothing was stolen, not a single stinger left in the darknet, there is no javelin there anywhere did not go, did not appear somewhere in the middle east, calm down, calm down, it will really play out, as they have already tried to promote it several times, so for sure, the russians continue to play this story, they are trying to sell, well, it seems, weapons in the darknet on behalf of ukrainians that the ukrainians are ready to hand over there and anywhere , and the russians are dispersing some story, you see, this stinger from america came to ukraine, and then this stinger may appear somewhere in europe and with this stinger they can shoot down... a civilian plane, they try to play this story how important then will be the mission of robert storch, who is delegated here to report on the use of not one, we now have three, yes, look, that is, all the weapons that come from the united states, they are conventionally marked there, yes, they goes to the front and what was destroyed, our military reports,

it is destroyed, as much as possible, it is subjected to, well , the bureaucracy that is destroyed, here we record, if it was captured, reports. she was fascinated, then information appears there, the russians teach, love, love, but they are playing interestingly, they are showing us, we captured a lot of weapons in banderivka, but there, from a certain angle, it was visible, for example, javilino there, that he had already been shot, ugh, well, they are showing the tubes, and there, that is, they, well, you have to know, that they play it too, we report, we show, there are no questions, there is no gray area, for example, it is not clear whether the weapon is lost, or the weapon is there, what happened to it, that is, everything should be clear for the specialists themselves, for themselves. inspectors, well, elections, how do we survive this year of the united states, to what extent we will be pulled from there, well, primarily because of the mobilization of europe, i spoke and remain a supporter of this, and i believe that the policy of the united states of america in this sense is quite consistent, and precisely because of the reduction of financial aid, they deliberately pledge less money, friends, it is not

by chance that i emphasize for the third time that this sum is many times smaller than the one that was given to us, we are now tearing our forelocks off for it. this is all treason, everything has disappeared and now the crisis in congress will be some kind of catastrophe for us, the question remains in another way, the issue is that europe realizes the need to restart its economy and start military operations , we will come to europe now, we want to understand, not to tear off the forehead, but to understand america's strategy as closely as possible, just as i am trying to convey it through the prism of europe , because we cannot build it in any other way now, it cannot be a strategy for the elections of the united states of america would be held from europe, without china, without north korea, in the end, what happened today, and happened, yes official, well no the official announcement that they are starting to deliver artillery there is a complex of issues that joseph biden spoke about in vinnytsia. summit, when he was asked about ukraine, kolina will eventually be in nato , what did he answer, friends, well, ukraine is very

important, extremely important, but there are 150 more such important issues, the middle east, china, it is no coincidence that a meeting with sinziping is being prepared , indeed, so far at the level of gossip, newspaper rumors, but diplomats are already going to beijing, for some reason, will talk, and of course ukraine in this context is the number one issue in prisms of geopolitics. i understand that it is possible for an average american to sneeze, yes, what is happening abroad, and ukraine , somewhere there, and the news, he does not read every day, but in economic terms, the dependence on how military actions develop is very serious, because it is the military industry of america, this is the military industry of europe, and this is a completely different approach to geopolitical strategy, for the united states, this is a determining factor, it was and remains, internal problems will be solved at the expense of what, money, today war is a huge amount of money, where does it start . to postpone, this is a very serious boost to economic development, both in europe and in the united states of america, this is the joseph biden report, which will say: look, we're spreading,

and we're importing democracy, and we're creating jobs, we're growing the economy, in that the time when trump told you that he would do it one day, but he did not succeed , so i, well, i have the conviction that the ukrainian issue will be a cornerstone, but it will not be , you know, so linear, so let's go there on all the big boards let's see how joseph biden will stand with zelensky, see here i saved him, here are the ukrainians, here i did it, well, listen, this is very primitive , it will look absolutely different, there will be internal issues, there will be other issues, it will be compared to that, look, it did not work in afghanistan, it didn't work in vietnam, it didn't work in iraq, it definitely works in ukraine, and it's absolutely obvious that it was said, you know, articulated by biden when asked about our prospects in the alliance, what did he say, wait a few months, now there's a discussion, when the next nato summit will take place. i'm already here in of the studio said that well, i have a feeling that it will happen sooner, just before the anniversary of the creation of nato, which is in the month of april, maybe

plus mi, a month, let's remind our viewers that we know that the summit should take place in washington in in the 24th year, but we do not know the date, it has not been announced yet, but it is in principle due to the fact that there is such an idea that biden wants to accept ukraine into nato before the elections, and we really want to invite, we really want to do it to believe, that's why such questions are definitely asked. one two, three meetings with by the chinese and so on, all this will be in his pre-election case. mr. valery, if we start from your thesis that america wants to mobilize europe in support of ukraine in this way, was not what zelensky said in granada about what he said, according to the information of our intelligence headquarters, russia is now such a mobilization statement wants to freeze the war, accumulate forces, restore its potential destroyed by the ukrainians by the 28th year and will strike. not only in ukraine, but also in the baltic countries, in all the countries where there are now russian troops, well, poland, if it was a question of skabieva, god forbid, yes

, god forgive me, yes, of course it would be, but this is treason, everything, the west, look, they give nothing, everything is gone, america is nothing gives, this , in my opinion, is also a signal to europeans, let's even remember the rhetoric that sounded at the 78th un general assembly in new york, in fact it was in unison with joseph biden. joseph biden zelensky, joseph biden zelensky, how can we think about the fact that ukraine is not in the context of joseph biden and not in his election program, well, in my opinion, it would not be quite right, and of course the statements that are out today, they are alarming, they call for europeans to think, they call, well, among other things, for the same reform of the eu , because it's such a problem, if orban says no, no, we'll veto the decision to allocate 50 billion euros, let's give 25, ukrainians will be fed up with them, right? for us, this encourages us to open up problems, both in the republicans and in the european union,

that we should mobilize, once again i emphasize, the problem of the european union, which has existed for a long time, the lack of a defense union, a defense strategy, has been talked about for a long time , and what is more, it was a union for making money, well, of course, today the question is different, you made money, you've got to protect them, yes, so definitely these are signals that it could be, if you stop now, again, i'm not ruling out the possibility that they're looking at a serious scenario, a real freeze, but during this period, everybody's being set up , you you should be ready for not such an escalation, you should be ready when russia raises its head there, then you will destroy it all sharply, look, europeans, they were pacifists, they lasted a while, and now, well, pacifists, it was the americans who drove them there, come on well, there trump pushed them, what do you have with this, with defense spending, yes, there is less than 2% where there were countries, yes, there is 0.9%, they pushed them, they are not ready, they count on the europeans, what they say is right, to earn money, and there was

such an opinion that if the problem can be solved with money, then it is not a problem. it's expenses yes, well, the federation, well, they supply gas, they buy from us guchi pradal, money there, bundles here, everything will be fine, no one expected that there would be a gas valve, this is an oil valve, and this is what we came to, after all war is possible, yes, they think that it will apply to ukraine , never to them, now they have to understand that the vitrogen generation, well, it’s good, it’s cool, it’s about flowers, it’s great, but we need to fill the bundesferi there warehouses, it is necessary to develop new types of weapons there. that is, there can be a war, and finally, this war is a compilation of all the wars that have been there , well, there in the last 100 years, this is the first world war, when trenches, artillery shelling, this is also the second world war, when tanks, there minefields, and the third world war - these are drones, different, small, large, medium, that is , this is a third kind of war, mr. oleksandr, mr. valeriy mentioned the other

night, here is another very interesting statement from another propagandist, we all know from whom , about the need to detonate a nuclear bomb in siberia, come on the whole world will be left without mobile phones and all the satellites will fall, such things wake up europe, they understand that, well, what is in people 's heads, at least, and what, through whose mouth it speaks, today we discussed whose thoughts it will voice, until the previous everything well, in the united states, this is my point, first of all, you talked about the inspector general , first of all, from the very first day when we started supplying weapons, there was control, and more than 40 reports have already been compiled, each cartridge or any system was not used for the appointment, the excitement that was appointed so officially that everyone knows about it, it was due to the fact that actually the trumpians in the house of representatives wanted to put their hand in and control this aid and block this aid, that's exactly why they started raising the issue , that the american people, meaning representatives in the house

of representatives, have, want to know, that is, they did not receive. information, and actually, here i am not saying that there are any problems, because our military uses it for its intended purpose, but this was a step, in fact, in order to control more help. the second point, regarding the elections, for biden, yes, this is the legacy of ukraine's foreign policy, because he has not yet made progress in other directions, he has reasons to support china, he may have a very good thing related to the reconciliation of saudi arabia with israel, but so far it's a pitchfork, with china, well, there are nuances, yes , let's look at this meeting, i think that it will not be a solution to all their problems, in the elections , ukraine will be in a negative context constantly, the first - the center bid and ukraine, ukrainian corruption, although it has nothing to do with the current government and so on, the second point, of course, that it is , let's say, ukraine is like a black hole, what he said, that is,

goetz himself, who launched this issue of the collapse of the speaker's chair, he said said that what i created is not a problem for me, that is, the problem for me is 33 trillion , which means that there are debts, and other, other, other, that is, he was playing with numbers, and they will use ukraine, as what this is layability, i.e. it is ballast, you have to drop it, you have to do your own things, it is necessary to strengthen the pkk, it turned out that once upon a time, the experience of afghanistan did not teach them anything, well, now we will also talk about afghanistan, but there are numbers, it is august. cnn, 71, republicans, say that there is no need to allocate additional funds to ukraine at all, 23, they say that we have already done enough, it turned out that now the democrats, they are hawks, and traditionally, let's say, the position of these doves of peace was taken by the trumpians, just a couple of days ago, that means margery greene is one of the most

active against us, who works as a congresswoman. she met with coat pink, this is a left-wing organization that says: we must stop shooting, we must stop giving weapons to ukraine, and press for diplomacy, that is , ukraine will be in a negative context, we cannot do much by arguing with politicians ourselves, with trump, vivicom, it is very good that mike pence is a former vice president, nikki gelli, but they, you know, have 5-7% of support there, that is, they are not real competitors, the same rondesa. who is there by 20, seems to be retreating from trump, he made a mistake by saying that ukraine is it the territorial problem, and then the proverb, we don't know what's in his head, he's a trumpian, he's a trump, but with brains, as they call him, what kind of politics he will be, we don't know, that's why we'll have problems, and it seems to me that the only option we can do is to appeal to the electorate with great care, it should be the visits