just scrap metal running through the streets of the cities, well , now there will be a lot of attention, of course, to israel. dear friends, we will return to ether at 14, and you have already donated 16,000 to us today, and for that we thank you very much, see you soon. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health, today in the program. bloody attacks on kharkiv region for the second day in a row. the terrible consequences of the russian attack on the center of kharkiv. reforms in ukraine, the demands of the eu and the usa and the scandalous concept of shmyhal's government. will the deputies clear ukraine of kremlin agents in ryasy. the verkhovna rada finally gathered votes for a ban on the pcp. on the verge of a confrontation with the west, putin cannot win the war, but he does not know either. we will talk about this and other things

today for the next hour with people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko, special officer ihor lapin and political expert volodymyr tsybulko. friends, for those who are watching us live now on youtube. please like this video, participate in our survey, today. we ask you the following: do you support the idea of ​​banning the activity of a branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine? yes, no, please vote, at the end of the program, we will summarize this vote, your option, if it is different from the simple answers, yes, no, please write below this video why we ask this, because this week 226 votes were collected in the verkhovna rada of ukraine in order to consider in

the parliament the issue of banning the activities of the branch of the russian orthodox church in to ukraine, to the church that works for vladimir putin and the entire russian propaganda machine, and therefore, this story needs to be put to an end, i hope that during today's program we will repeatedly return to this topic, and we should be in touch people's deputy of ukraine, oleksii goncharenko, please tell me if he is , mr. oleksii, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air, i congratulate you, mr. oleksii, for the second time, in the last two days, russian occupiers are killing civilians in kharkiv oblast, yesterday died at the hands of the occupiers 51 residents of the village of groza, in the kupyan region, today two residents of kharkiv were killed in the city center, the high commissioner for human rights... the un

condemned the attack on the village of groza, kupyan district, kharkiv region , and sent a field team there to collect more information about this violation of russia, the laws and customs of war. let's hear what the spokeswoman for the office of the un high commissioner for human rights, elizabeth trossell, had to say. obviously, this strike is one of the deadliest since february 24, 2022, but certainly far from is. un high commissioner for human rights volker türk, who saw the terrible consequences of such strikes with his own eyes, is deeply shocked and condemns these killings. he sent a field team to the scene to talk to the survivors and gather more information, before the russian invasion the population of the village was about 300 people, it is not known how many residents still lived there, but it is clear that this great tragedy touched everyone in this small community with one

rocket, they buried the whole village there, in each, in every house, now there will be a de one grave, but where at once, five graves at once, three graves, i don't know, that's all, we have a few left here, none, the whole village is there, and i'm afraid to go there to look at that hundred mr. oleksiy, is the reaction of the world sufficient on duty in ukraine, and whatever your reaction should be, it is very difficult to say after you have shown that, of course, first of all, i express my condolences to relatives and friends, a terrible tragedy, another one, that the world should stop the country terrorist, obviously, but we also see that stopping the country of the terrorist

still fell on the shoulders of ukraine, so glory god helps us with weapons, they help us with sanctions, but we have to do all this ourselves. this whole situation, everything that is happening, and this yet another terrible terrorist attack, shows that the world security mechanisms are not really working, the united nations organization can't really do anything, but the commissioner said, well, what's next, whatever - what resolution to the council, to the council, sorry, to the radb, that's how russia will, unfortunately, when we are dealing with a nuclear state, a permanent member, albeit an illegal permanent member of the council of the united nations, as russia is illegal, however, it is very difficult to find justice for us , but we will try to do it , we must, the investigation must identify everyone who is involved in this strike, and then to a tribunal, possibly

a hybrid one, about which, in principle ukraine has been preparing for a long time, including together with the council of europe, and with the countries that are members of the council of europe, maybe we will be able to launch it there soon, and within the framework of this tribunal, all these criminals must bear responsibility, and of course the main criminal himself is volodymyr putin, who started all this, who is killing people, it's just terrible, what can i say , mr. oleksiy, you mentioned that international structures, well, actually can't do anything to the russian federation, we remember. as we have already seen during the second world war, the league of nations did not work, but before that, the league of nations excluded the soviet union from this organization, it was in 1939, when the soviet union attacked finland, and this was a sign, for the soviet union, for hitler it

was not a single sign, but at least the soviet union paid for his place in the league of nations, you mentioned the possibility of excluding russia from the un security council. we also remember that in 1991, when the soviet union collapsed, russia became the successor of the soviet union in the organization of the united nations, and this same rule about how they acquired membership in both the security council and the united nations, also raises a lot of questions, including legal ones, because ukraine and the belarusian socialist republic, which were part of the soviet union and the ukrainian ssr, were the founders of and rossr was not the founder oon, can we, taking into account the complex of crimes committed by putin on ukrainian soil, demand the return of the legal, including the return to the fact

that russia has been there illegally for 30 years, we just need to put an end to this issue once and for all , we can and even have to demand, but let's give. let's be objective, it won't happen, and why then i say that we can and we should, well, first of all, because we are telling the truth, and the truth must always be told, russia is not legal in the un, russia is not legal in redbase and russia should not be there, i also think that there is a very high probability that after this war , changes in the reform of the un, or perhaps even the creation of a new organization, may take place, and our task is to already in this new organization, or after those changes and reforms, russia had no more. and no privileged place, and that's why we have to talk about it today, so that russia or whatever it is, i'm sure it will collapse, i don't know when it will happen, but i'm sure that this collapse will happen, and there will be some of its

the rightful successor of muscovy, or whatever it will be called, so that they do not have any special places in the international security system, but now we must be objective, we can call, say, no one will be expelled from the council by russia and and in fact, behind this is not not law, not some legal things, but a very simple thing, nuclear weapons, this week, mr. oleksiy, you demanded a meeting with president zelenskyi, you publicly addressed the president of ukraine and said that like any deputy, you can apply for a meeting from zelenskyi, what did you want to say to zelenskyi, and did you receive any response from the office of the president of ukraine, is zelenskyi scheduled to meet with people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko? yes, i officially appealed to president zelenskyi, i really want to meet, now i will tell you what and why , what topics i want to discuss, if

i don’t have an answer yet, zelenskyi, i don’t know if he has already returned since yesterday, he was in spain, maybe he on the way apparently i didn't expect to know right now but will definitely report the results i do this is the first time i was elected to this parliament in the 19th year, yes, more than four years of my term of office, the first time i use this right, and i think that the president should meet with me, because once every four years you can find time and for the people's deputy who wants to meet, and the law allows me to do it, and as for what i want to talk about, i have to be honest, i want to say that i think we are in a very dangerous moment we're at, i think it's comparable to march 22, maybe? with at the end of february, but it can be compared with march of the 22nd year, you can see perfectly

what is happening in international politics, some crazy challenges, and congress, the usa, and poland, and many trends that are dangerous for us, and i have something to say here, i have a specific plan , for example, how to work with the united states, i repeatedly presented this plan to zelenskyi's advisers, to people close to him there, and tried to explain to them that it is important. unfortunately, nothing of this was done, and now we have, in fact, a loss of how at least partial support for ukraine from the republican party, it is one of the two key parties in the united states of america, it must be understood that next year there will be elections in the usa, we do not know who will lead, become the president, maybe it will be a republican, we do not know , and it could have catastrophic consequences for us, we already have problems with not supporting us in congress, so. uh, you have to work here, and you have to, in my plan, how it should be on a shift basis, for people's

deputies to work at the parliamentary level, how to work at the state level, to remember that the usa is a federal state, a federal state, and not only in washington you need to work, you need to go to ohio, tennessee, pennsylvania, texas and so on, and promote the necessary for ukraine, with the american media, that it is necessary to create news, why is the play performed by volodymyr zelenskyi no longer working, it worked for a while, that's it, we need to reread this story, it's about international politics, well, europe is definitely a pariah, i also have something to say here , we as the delegate of ukraine is paired, so the second is definitely the internal situation , and first of all, what worries me is that what is happening at the front, i am not talking about military operations, i do not understand anything about it, but i know very well that is happening to our servicemen, their mood. their problems and problems are simply numerous, if we don't start solving these problems now

, it's additional payments, it's vacations, it's the most important thing, it's a question of demobilization, justice for people, because it turns out that there is a war in our country for one million people who serve and for their families and everything, and this is starting to split the country, and it is very hard on the military personnel, their moral and psychological state, and they should receive, i just submitted a draft law to the verkhovna rada. about demobilization after 18 months of service, maybe not 18 or 24, but you have to give people a deadline, it shouldn't be like there is an entrance and no exit, that the exit is only either 200 or three, god forbid, it shouldn't be like that , so this is a very important topic, it can only be decided by the president, but i have something to say and explain why it is important and why i emphasize it, well, i can continue, i also want to tell him why even the very idea of ​​elections is dangerous. which we see today that the government has started to promote, elections that can finally split the situation

that exists today and become very not very dangerous, because the country cannot fight at the same time, in the elections, and fight for victory, our priority must be obvious , but according to your feelings, i understood, mr. oleksiy, that the powerful team, according to your information, preparing for next year's elections. presidential elections, verkhovna rada elections, there are many questions about how these elections will be held, who will participate in them, how this right of military personnel will be protected by law, i mean in the election campaign, if these elections are held suddenly, if the verkhovna rada suddenly makes additional changes to the law, there are a lot of questions about how to count the votes, or how not to take into account the currently occupied districts... er, kherson, zaporizhzhia, donetsk and luhansk regions. how to count those votes

people who left ukraine, can our embassies and consulates organize full-fledged elections, 7 million people left abroad? well, that is, there are very, very many questions, and will it not happen that these questions, which are being articulated now, will arise after the verkhovna rada starts taking some steps towards those elections, and then. already at the march, something will be decided and there will be a lot of questions about the legitimacy of these elections, because it will turn out that some people will not be able to physically vote in these elections. look at you you listed a lot of problems, it is all correct, everything you said, but it seems to me that the main problem, you still did not name it, the main problem, what are the elections for at all, well, that is, we have a law of ukraine that clearly says, that there can't be elections during martial law, and it's not made up from the head, because it can't be done during martial law, and obviously the country can be

concentrated around one, i 'll tell you honestly, i've been demonstrating there for the last two days under during the meetings of the supreme council, i broadcast these meetings in my tiktok, told people on his telegram channel, well, considering that there were 20-30 people's deputies in the verkhovna rada for most of the time during these two days, just during the session, again 20-30, most of the time, i can already see that well, in fact, for many, the war has either ended, or they have excluded it themselves, for them it does not exist, but imagine when, god forbid, it begins during hostilities. elections will begin, well, that's all, well, that is, everyone will switch only to these rails, well, i don't know what could be a better gift to putin, to russia, what is it, and none, and why and why do it, that is, if zelensky’s task is just now he wants to stamp himself for another five years, well, sorry, this is very far from the tasks he announced earlier, which is the main thing for us to win,

that’s right, the main thing we win the war, or the most important thing is for him to win the elections, even in odessa they say that there are two big differences , you have to make your choice, and it seems to me that the choice should be absolutely obvious here, so this is a very dangerous idea, this is a very dangerous trend, i see that the government actually decided, well, at least a part of it, and i understand that zelskyi also supported it, to postpone the elections during hostilities, but they wanted to present it in such a way that it seems that this is required by the measure, that it seems that our partners demand, well, like , but it does not require this, and they do not manage to show it that way, because za does not declare anything, one statement of one american senator, which they reproduce there and somehow refer to, well, it is nothing, with all due respect, because there are 100 senators and and more than 400 congressmen, we cannot take into account the position of each of them here

to a strategic and fundamentally important issue like the election, when they saw that it was not possible to pass it off as an idea of ​​the event, well, let's see what they will do in the future, but in fact i see that they... want to do it, it really bothers me, even is frightening, because it means that many of them are already mentally not at the front, not during the war, at the polling stations. thank you, mr. oleksiy, it was oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine from european solidarity. friends, we are working live on telekanaluso, as well as on ours platforms on youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube. please like this video and take part in our voting. we are asking you today. about this, do you support the idea of ​​banning the activities of the roc branch in ukraine? yes, no, you can also write your option in the comments below this video. next, we have an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, major, special agent, people's deputy of ukraine, of the eighth convocation, ihor lapin. mr. major, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air. glory to ukraine. heroes,

glory, this week, mr. igor, 226 votes were collected in the verkhovna rada of ukraine in order to put on the agenda the issue of banning the roc branch in ukraine, the question would seem absolutely obvious, and the answer to this question is absolutely clear, the enemy church should not to work in ukraine, as a network from the kremlin network, and the verkhovna rada of ukraine should put an end to this , why, or who in your opinion, does not want to ban branches of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, and why with such a creak, with such constantly incomprehensible explanations, this whole story has been going on for a year and seven months of the great war, well, it's already the 10th year of the great war, well, the general war.

in my deep conviction, in our state of ukraine, in principle, strategy, policy and everything else is decided in the office of the president, and therefore, if there is no political will of the president, then there is nothing, and in this situation, who does not want in we were banned from the existence of the russian orthodox church as an agent network and a church that has maternal ties with the aggressor country, then i give a clear the answer is that president zelensky doesn’t want that, that’s all, you can’t comment any more here, everything else is from lukavyi , you know, everything else can look like lyrics, including from my side, there are signatures, collected, signatures, so it’s fake news from stefanchuk that there are no votes in the council, well, this is fake news in order to justify the reluctance of president zelenskyi, i will not say so , in order to justify the desire of president zelenskyi in ukraine to have a russian church, if i am told now, but you you know, here you look, here you see, here the laurel, here it is steps were taken there and so on, and what

was done, i emphasize once again, the existence of the russian, fsb agent network on the territory of ukraine, would automatically release lavra as well. well, this is just to make it clear, for our western partners, for whom the issue of freedom of conscience is one of the postulates of democracy, we have to do very... serious explanatory work that the russian orthodox church does not have freedom of conscience in ukraine absolutely nothing, nothing in common, because the russian orthodox church is closing in on the aggressor country, this times, is engaged in campaigning and propaganda work, c2 and has an extensive network of informants and accomplices in the crimes of the russian army against ukrainians, period, there is nothing more to add here, that's what i think. mare, mr. major, what threatens the existence, the continued existence of the branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, i mean, what threatens

this great internal front that exists in ukraine and which can turn into a real front at any moment, because we know that the chinese people and, well, some of the chinese people, let's say this, and some of the managers of this branch, they are involved in er, collaborators and to and are themselves collaborators and in some cases are propagandists of the russian world in ukraine, well , what is the threat of the russian language to ukraine, and on the one hand, if you look at it like nothing, but russian narratives came after the russian language and russian soldiers, what threatens the russian church, it seems like nothing, but the russian church is followed by russian narratives and russian soldiers are harnessed for it. well, that's all, this is a threat to the national security of ukraine, the issue here is not freedom of conscience, i emphasize once again, but communication

work, geniuses, pr and communication, zelskyi's office, it is a complete failure, the only marathon in our country highlights only what is for the sake of ratings, that is, the cooperation, let's say so, of certain structures with the political office of the fsb in ukraine, and here i am.. . i want to say, well, not the only one, the truth is, the close cooperation of the russian intelligence network with the political office of the fsb, on the territory of ukraine, which is in many offices, and we have already talked about it more than once, it is precisely all these things , which are aimed at undermining national security, the state of ukraine, and more i emphasize once again, communication with society, communication with our western partners, explanatory work and decisions of the verkhovna rada regarding bans. in this way , both the pechersk lavra and more than one lavra are released at once. we see what the russian world is leading to, the russian language, the russian church, we still lacked enough to

continue, let's say, fight forever, mr. major, this week in america, in the congress of the united states of america, there were very dramatic events, a law was passed. project on the temporary budget for 45 days, which does not take into account the additional funding of military aid to ukraine, after that the speaker of the lower house of the congress of the united states of america resigned, rather kevin mccarthy was sent to resign, and now the question is what will happen next with the funding , well, it is clear that the whole world is looking at the americans, because the americans here are our biggest donors and people who support us in this war, financially and with weapons, let's hear what volodymyr zelensky said about the situation that is developing in

of the united states of america from projections to europe and ukraine. so, the situation with the united states is dangerous, yes, it is a difficult period for the united states, and of course, it is a difficult period for ukraine, but it has not been easy for us since the first days of full-scale war, so. we are ready for any difficult period. it is very important for us that europe and the usa are also ready to work together so as not to lose this unity. and i think my signals today were for the european leaders. the united states really supported europe, supported ukraine throughout for a long time, it's true. and europe supported ukraine. but i think now is the time, the time of challenge, when europe is a strong leader in the world and has to support the united states. but the president of ukraine did not say one more thing, that the great challenge now also faces the ukrainian state, what and how the ukrainian government is doing.

we know that there are reservations from the united states of america and demands for reforms, we know that the european union is also now saying that ukraine must do a lot in order to move forward, we we know that there are requirements to fight corruption, in your opinion, as requirements and what american officials articulate and what they do not articulate, how they affect the situation with the allocation of money to us from the state budget of the united states of america, well, let's do it, the usurpation of power and the policy of diplomacy and rudeness are producing results today, and these results are unfortunately disappointing for ukraine. the western world cannot be fascinated by zelenskyi's charisma for very long, continue to applaud and turn a blind eye to all the things that today are the trash that created by zelenskyi's team. i won't mention shurma, tatarov, yermaki, i

'll just say zelenskyi's team. will aid for the ukrainian people stop? well, we know, we are already seeing the first swallows, we also recently heard the statements of the president of lithuania neosed, who said that corruption is one of the reasons for the slow down in decision-making regarding aid. further, this slowdown has led to the fact that some countries, such as slovakia, where elections have already been held, have made some kind of statement about the general slowing down, not only slowing down, but stopping, well, considering the position of the pro-russian government, which has now won there, we see that the policy of diplomacy and rudeness has led to a scandal in poland, and we are already hearing ambiguous statements from the bolshka side that they will stop doing there payments to ukrainian refugees, and of course there is an urgent question, now not only about grain, it seems like it can be settled somehow, but in general there is a question of aid to ukraine. one gets the impression

that western partners pouring here... colossal funds, they watched that no one thought strategically with these funds , strategic things were not done for the defense of ukraine with these funds, that is, helping us in the economy, they watched us, as we roughly put it, eat up these funds, at the same time we don't build anything of our own at the moment, well, we actually don't, i can't say that it's everywhere, but nevertheless, and that's how it looks in my opinion, what they say today, anu-ka people, try it, but show it yourself that you yourself well , because that's the story, that's how it looks, zelenskyy said one more phrase today, and this quote has already been dispersed, that in principle, the issue of ukrainian corruption, that it is simply fake news from russian propaganda, and they are spreading it all, and you are fools here, well, he did not say that literally yes, but he said so, he made it clear that there is no corruption , because this is all russian fake news, even

before that he said that what are you... surviving, no one steals your money, corrupt people want your money they don't have access, and they steal money from ukrainian taxpayers, that is, he in fact, he is trying, i apologize, to pour something in front of them and convince them that this is all god’s dew, no, it doesn’t work like that, geopolitical processes, they don’t work, as zelensky thinks, i will come here and ukrainians are fighting, and therefore everyone owes us to help, no, it doesn't work like that either, regarding... the resignation of makarkhny , well, i'll say it, my, well, this is my opinion on this matter, i don't know if it's good or bad, but it seems to me that a weak speaker makarnyi was not very beneficial to the democrats , including, well, first of all, the democrats gave for this one resignation of the majority of his votes, actually playing along with the trumpists, and mccartney stood on such a stretch that he was actually tied, so he was tied to the opinion of even one congressman, from

the republican party, who could put his resignation to a vote, so he had to be so obedient that either resign or you are obedient, and this stretch is not very beneficial, i think , to american politics, so in principle , the democrats here just gave their votes for the resignation of mccartney. the second thesis is us we remember the thesis of biden, who said that we are what we promise, we fulfill, like, you also fulfill, sir. makarni, but as i understand it, once the votes were given, it means that he did not fulfill what is inside them, of course, we cannot know the details, how risky it is for ukraine, well, the reserve is in the form of 5 billion, there is an extra 5.3 billion , if i am not mistaken, a reserve for aid to ukraine, it can in principle work for several more months, again depending on the nomenclature, because for this money you can transfer several javelin trucks, or for example, conditions...