revise the rules, but this is all a big offensive of authoritarianism. thank you very much, ihor simivolos, director of the center for middle eastern studies, i am afraid that you and i will be investigating for more than one day, if mr. ihor is right in the sense that maybe hezbollah, alkuts, and so on will join there, and, in short, there is someone to join, and israel also has someone to rely on, and you and i will now get to ukraine, so out of the blue from the near east to boris koshniruk, the economist, i hope he is in touch with us, we will see him now, but for sure he with us in touch, thank you mr. boris for finding time for us, you and i will not talk about middle eastern problems, but we will talk about purely ukrainian problems, and the first question, mr. boris, is for me, such a mediocre

ordinary ukrainian citizen, this is what they said, that the floating exchange rate means that the currency in ukraine is recovering again, somehow it will show, i have to do something, i have to shout, or on the contrary, continue to run the program with you and bring it to the end, and not immediately run to the bank, do something there, spitting on to all the people who are watching this program now , first of all, good evening, you definitely don't need to go anywhere, you really need to run the program, ah, what about the floating rate, you just need to understand the problem, well , at least like me saw her at a fixed exchange rate, which has actually been maintained since the summer of last year, and there is a question of rising prices, costs, manufacturers of industrial products, respectively, if the exchange rate remains unchanged, fixed, this means that in essence, the production

of ukrainian commodity producers increases in dollar terms equivalents, i.e. inflation for them is dollar, in fact, in size, and when it comes to the fact that prices, well, costs, and prices of producers have increased somewhere by 15 to 20%, then, accordingly, this means that the value of products has increased by 20 %, under such circumstances, these products become uncompetitive, neither on the foreign market, nor on the domestic market, and this is even more so. puts pressure on the domestic currency market, because their products are simply uncompetitive, therefore, under such circumstances, the national bank must carry out devaluation, but the question of how to carry it out it can be fixed, you can announce that you are doing n rate will fluctuate, but the first question is that you need to carry out devaluation.

first of all, and you should think about how exactly to carry out the devaluation, so that it is predictable, so that no one runs anywhere, that 's right for me, there is a complaint against the national bank that the option chosen by the national bank bank, it creates huge opportunities for corruption, because if the national bank said: "okay, we need to spend within six months, the hryvnia at 6%, well so that we simply, this means by percentage per week, per month, okay , we will devalue the national currency by half a hundred on specific dates twice a month, under such circumstances, all market participants, the population, everyone understands what is happening and no one is not running anywhere anymore, because the interest rate is small, the fluctuation is insubstantial, there is no point in running anywhere, deposit rates are relatively speaking higher than yours, and the devaluation that will happen, under

such circumstances, everyone acts as predicted, and there is no corruption, the model that chose the national bank and announced that it is so beautiful, it creates huge opportunities for corruption, with the way the national bank is actively promoting itself now, and i can see it, watching the social media posts, how they are trying to justify their behavior, in my opinion the look of a rather... corrupt team, i don't like this very much, i don't like it, because the concept itself, i emphasize, it creates potential, potential opportunities for corruption, because it turns out that no one knows what the course will be, besides, who sits in the national bank, and there are huge opportunities here, well, for example, on the first day, which was on tuesday , the national bank, only on monday, announced that it was switching to this exchange rate in a floating one, and already on the first day, a big

the number of buyers for 500 million dollars and the national bank sold the currency, that is, before he sold the currency in the market, but he did it at a fixed rate, and here... he sold it even at a more favorable rate for importers, the one who bought this currency, so sorry, you what is the purpose of you were there for them to earn, or you still need to carry out a slow gradual devaluation, but it is predicted for all market participants, but it is obvious to me that on this wrapper, the importers earned, well, up to a million dollars, they made a lot of money simply because that they were sold currency cheaper than they had the opportunity to buy a few days ago, okay, but it was funny to watch when the national bank, andriy pishny pathetically declared that everyone expected the hryvnia to depreciate, but it was the opposite became even stronger, so it became

stronger only thanks to the actions of the national bank, and the problem is that, taking into account the huge trade deficit, foreign trade, in fact the only seller of currency is the national bank, in fact it is the national bank. knows what the exchange rate will be and he sells it, and if you know at what exchange rate the national bank will sell it, you, you will be in chocolate, yes, absolutely on an equal footing, and at the same time, on your own, what corruption, yes, what, yes, what kind of corruption are you talking about? it can't help but cause me, at least, irritation, especially in the current conditions of the war, but besides you, mr. boris, can it cause irritation in anyone else? for example, in the cabinet of ministers, in the verkhovna rada, in the administration of the president, somewhere there are some specialists who say, listen , something, something wrong is happening here, and this is the question, maybe someone in the prosecutor's office will have questions as well, well, i think that the prosecutor's office should have questions there on many

stories, related to over-indulgence, over-indulgence, i i told you about this last time on the program, the national bank for the past year, for this year, paid the bank for the certificate of sale, paid 90 billion hryvnias, excuse me, and this is from the story that they controlled the inflationary processes in this way, and i ask question, i'm sorry, but you couldn't have done this story cheaper, because you just gave state funds to commercial banks, 90 billion, we're here , excuse me, collecting uah 10, uah 50 each for the armed forces of ukraine, yes, and the national bank just like that gave out tens of billions of hryvnias, which could not be given away, so questions to the national bank there will be many, although i understand that it is not under this government, and there are simply questions again, you know, why are they not asked, even many did not ask questions, because corruption and incompetence always go hand in hand, i told you about this too

, because in reality, well, some simply do not understand what is happening, some do not understand, but how should it be, well, they say that they are doing everything correctly, well, they, there are smart people sitting there, they probably know how to do it to do correctly, therefore... for me, this is a question from the one side of corruption a turncoat, on the other hand, is incompetent both in the national bank and those who could , in theory, at least ask questions in the same government, well, the finance minister could definitely ask questions, because the ministry of finance itself was deprived of tens of billions of hryvnias from those incomes that they could receive if this money, instead of being distributed by the bank, would go to the state budget. mr. boris. look, i have such a question then, well, it is already very abstract, i am not a small specialist, just not any specialist in finance, but, if you are several the word devaluation was used several times, it means that let's say that in march or april or may or someday it will not be 39, 37-39, but

41-43, which means we will pay such money for dollars, that is, we, citizens of ukraine, we will compensate the state for the 90 billion that you just mentioned, that is, they have already taken the money , that is, those who can speculate on today's fluctuations, they already, they already have loot, they already have it somewhere in their pockets , or somewhere else, but it is necessary somehow, well, it is some kind of storeroom, where our common things lie national wealth in the form of... in particular money, and we have to add a little bit there , well yes, through exchangers, through that, the other, am i completely wrong, well no, let's say so, not completely, but that's a little different story, the question in devaluation, i emphasized to you that the main problem with devaluation

is related to the need for devaluation is related to the fact that we have a huge trade deficit, if there was a market situation, then in this case , in principle, the market could determine ... which there must be a course between supply and demand. given that we have a huge trade deficit and it will persist not only during the war, but also for at least a couple of years after the war. essentially. well, you simply cannot make a free market, because in this case, well, it is obvious that you will have a very deep devaluation, and therefore it cannot be allowed, under such circumstances, i believe that there should be a policy of managed devaluation, but with a fixed exchange rate, when all business entities, both importers and exporters, and the population understand what is happening, understand when it should happen in terms of terms, and in this case, yes, we are not getting rich, it is obvious that the war definitely does not make us richer, well, at least the population, i am not talking about

some wealthy people, and some businessmen, they can afford to buy super luxury cars, and they have everything in chocolate, yes, and so i emphasize that if we take the population and everyone, then the war undoubtedly leads to the fact that your national, our national nato is devalued, accordingly, you lose, and you... become poorer, well, at least in dollar terms, and that yes, that is that a forced reaction, i'm just emphasizing, one it's a case when it's done with understanding and in the public interest, it's completely different when it's done, sorry, for a frank, well , corruption opportunity, i'm not a prosecutor, i'm not an investigator, i'm not a detective who has to tap phones, hack into someone's computer , check and so on, that is, i do not deal with this, but for me... it is obvious that the model that the national bank has chosen, it creates huge opportunities for corruption, it is obvious to me,

because, i have one question, and i am asking short answer, but make an ideal anyway it is impossible, during the war we cannot imagine that the population will not become poorer , we will still suffer financially, that is, there have been such cases in our history, when there was a war, there was an attack, and we live like yesterday, yes and the day before the war and during the war, that is impossible, all the same, the rich will get richer, but everyone else will get poorer under all conditions, you know, the rich will not get richer, get richer, but sorry, in our conditions, unfortunately, some are possible the rulers are getting rich, and the businessmen associated with it, it's not just the rich getting richer, it's sorry corrupt scum, getting rich, i'm talking about the population, i'm talking about myself, on the suffering of the population, okay. thank you very much, boris kushniruk, the economist was with us, thank you very much , now there will be an advertisement, then you and i will talk with

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persons from 16 to 19 years old. good health, mr. vadim, thank you for finding time for us. on saturday, well, here is the first and main question, so i understand that the world is powerless in the face of terrorism, yes, today we all see israel, we see hamas, we see the gas sector, we see the attack, we ukrainians understand this very well, because we also had 20, not today, but we had 24, february 22, when the terrorist troops of the russian federation also flew into... ran, ran into ukraine, and it seems that there is no on this council, somewhere on some intellectual platforms are generally thinking about what to do with the world in the 21st century, please, mr. vadim, i congratulate you, thank you for inviting me, i am very glad to see you and i wanted

to tell you the situation right away, first situation, it is similar and not similar. for a year, all the intelligence agencies told us that you would be invaded, but we didn't react very well with israel , that's all, i saw an expert with you, one of the experts was there, he talked about the failure of intelligence, and this is really one of , i think that they are serious failures in the work of the intelligence services, but not only the israeli ones, but where was the intelligence of egypt, which is next to the gas sector, and where was the intelligence of other countries, israel was not warned, now, as for... whether there are platforms in the world or such platforms are debatable, of course they exist, there are forums on which, unfortunately, ukrainian experts are not allowed, but they take place in the world , for example, the aspin forum, or the aspian security forum, where the question of what to do in today's world, what are the threats

of the modern world is discussed, but unfortunately we are not seriously represented there on such platforms. these platforms are mainly for those, as you said, intellectuals, intellectuals have either left us somewhere , or they are oppression, because the government does not need them, and i think that this is the problem, that we are not involved in such discussions, it is deprives our brain of the possibility of strategizing and visioning , processes, but immediately look, it imposes on the fact that there are intellectual, let's say, platforms where these issues are discussed, there are more political decisions, for example, political... no, i would say so, the miracle of the united states, donald trump, who in principle breaks all the canons that have been established there in the usa for the last several decades, said one of the main intelligence officers, one of the important intelligence officers of the united states, when he worked, in an interview after his release, because

he had already failed to head one of the special services, he said that you come with... evidence, with arguments to the oval office, and president trump, simply with feelings, and you are nothing you can do, if you feel, we have the same officials who use their feelings, unfortunately, this is such an era , politicians who are, well, very inexperienced, not trained, because or, let's say, a little like that, how to say it, well they like to play with risks, maybe they are not fully aware of them, that is why there is still an era... we are not going anywhere from it, so i think that all these components are just evidence that we have threats all over the world, they are predicted, but unfortunately there is no proper reaction to them, a timely, but... medium-term reaction there will be israel, yes, well, you are absolutely right, because this is when reason and emotion collide, in general, as a rule, emotion

loses, rational thinking, they and i are homo sapens, so we are more rational, one more thing the question, what do you think, we are already on such a slippery, slippery ground of speculation, i would like to invite you, i apologize, but many people said that israel is moderate in relation to russia, does not want to help ukraine, because russia influences syria, influences iran and israel have their own problems, they are surrounded, as it were, by unfriendly countries, to put it mildly saying, and therefore, i also understood this, if i were a jew, living in israel, i would also take care of the first, second, third and fifth, options in the fifth and tenth, so that mine. security is the most important thing for me, and now the question arises, you asked, where was egypt, and where was russia, that is, i have the impression that if the same

netanyahu, who shakes hands with putin and kisses, he would have calculated that probably in at some point, putin will help us, and who has good relations with syria, in syria, iran, iran, hezbollah, well, in short, somewhere he would have found out about uga, he may have found out, but he didn't say a word to netanyahu and the jewish government as such? mr. mykola, i do not exclude at all that russia is somehow involved in the transfer of dual-use products or weapons directly to the gas sector. russia is a powerful, powerful player on this part of the mediterranean coast. if you watch, well, we mean, all the viewers are ours, we will watch. on the map we will see that on top is lebanon, where iranian so-called hezbollah proxies are present, and further up is the territory of syria, where there are

a russian military base, libya has a significant coast, where russian , and not only ships, are constantly plying, and from the side of sosha, israel has almost completely blocked the gas sector, so how everything appears for the production of weapons and the weapons themselves, this another huge question. i think we will get an answer to him a little later, who exactly and how delivered weapons to the gas sector. there are still underground tunnels from the egyptian side, but the egyptian army is constantly destroying them there on the sinai peninsula, so it is obvious that the russian means of radio-electronic intelligence, or the so-called signals intelligence, if by american standards, there is , also i think that the americans were not very careful there, relying on the israeli forces, and they did not cope, literally there was an international conference in israel a few weeks ago on the issue of combating

terrorism, well, the kind that israel conducts annually at one of the universities, and the head of masado spoke there, showing a video of the interrogation of iranian officers, who admitted that they had tried to commit some crimes there, and nothing, and he showed with such a contented look that they have everything under control, i think this is some kind of political degradation going on there. because there is this desire to politicize the influence of intelligence from the side, it seems to me that this is part of the failure, but let's see how it will turn out, and i am convinced from the side of russia, look at what sources there are for obtaining information, well, he lives there, well we can 700 in that gas sector, it has no connection with any single country, except a little with egypt and israel, there everything is by means of technical intelligence, there stuffed, drones are constantly hanging around, interception of all telephone conversations, agents everywhere, well, clearly, not only israeli ones, i mean, there are also russian and

iranian ones, so it seems to me that the direct participation of some countries, their special services, or the guard corps of the islamic revolution, or even the russians, or there are some pmcs, conditional, yes, because there is a pmc in iran too, not only, elku and his...' satellite, there are pmcs real, and therefore i think that this, well, i i think that there is a trace or a joint operation that was managed by professionals, that's why secrecy was increased, if there were only barefoot boys, then i think that it would be a little different, so i think that russia has some role there, either mutely or directly accepted, but in my case, you understand, here we are with you we are talking, and i have one thing, you know, it is more alarming than some kind of lamp in the head, and such an operation is systematic, serious on our part

. this is the kind of partisanship that we are used to, the whole world is used to, today it is not partisanship, it is here that we have missiles , well, so weak, but we have missiles over there, these, what are they called, the front is breaking through, this, this border, we have them over there on motorcycles, there on machines, it’s such a collision from all sides, if it’s not done that way, i wouldn’t do it... i came up with it, i should have graduated from the academy of the general staff somewhere, or at least learned from the inside out, but partisan ones already not partisan, but such a quasi-military operation , that it was, it cannot be overlooked, that is exactly what we are talking about, a couple of paramilitary structures are trained in quick actions, since these are combat units of modern armies of the world, to be honest, there and the drone

was used directly from the drone. reset, how in the russian-ukrainian war one of the tanks, another armored vehicle, a pair of these hang gliders, which crossed with two, with a pair of fighters, were shot down, that is, all this was developed, well, in principle, according to quite modern standards, and the last one i can tell you that even when the operation had already started, i do not rule out that i could do intelligence and warn the political leadership, maybe the decision was not made there in time what to do, but i still think that this is a failure of intelligence, i do not rule out that it is political, misinformed from others sources there, for example, there are three intelligence agencies, the mossad, aman and shinbet, and i think that it is military intelligence that has failed the most, given the nature of the fighting and these subversive, so-called, well, almost subversive operations, although i think that the mossad could and to get information from iran and from russia, so i think that we will witness such an interesting discussion after that

, and we will see, and this will also be a lesson for us, how to work, how to borrow experience, how they can also act against us, to be honest, they can also act against us in a similar way, because well we saw that it can be, well, calmly trained, well, not some professional military, they can be trained, and the last thing i want to tell you about the role of russia, i will tell you that there was already, there were once reports that russia was transporting this from africa on the route to syria, and beauties, gold, diamonds, also weapons , and you remember that they were transported there from the crimea under the cover of russian flags, and there are a lot of connections, and the leader of khamaz came to russia, there are a lot of connections of the engineers who graduated there and reworked, let's say, these rockets are like that, they are no longer

they are already artificial, that's why i think there is hassan hassan-2, there and that's why i think that there, well, here , just think that at least the russian special services turned a blind eye, well , in order not to tell a faithful friend it's a pity for netanyahu, and the israeli people, it's a pity for the israeli civilians and military, the political leadership, of course, in any case made a mistake, and i think that this will be the consequence of a serious loss of support in the ruling party now, thank you vada. chernysh, i hope we will hear from each other see you, because i am not convinced that this crisis will end today and tomorrow, which, however, has never ended in the 48th year, in the middle east, vadym chernysh, expert on international national security, chairman of the sens management board, minister of ukraine on issues of temporarily occupied territories of internally displaced persons, from 16 to 19 years old, and now the floor

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