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turn on live, we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut, we tell the main thing, on weekdays at 9:00. the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. wins and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics, about all this serhii rudenko and the guests of his program will speak. people. who have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future right now, the main and interesting thing in the program verdict by serhiy rudenko, from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10. welcome to the espresso channel. now everyone will repeat.

that the war with russia is turning into an attrition format , our partners are already starting to fight, that the bottom is already visible in their stockpiles of weapons, and now it is necessary to quickly and abundantly produce new ones for ukraine as well, because in the war with russia a cardinal the break has not yet come. and for ukraine, this war of attrition, in my opinion, means the following: we must determine priorities in new realities, optimally use our own... limited resources, update approaches to the development of the national defense industry, remove artificial obstacles that prevent the development and production of our own weapons , and reformat approaches to the training and use of our troops in view of the new experience of combat operations. if this is not done, there will be losses and there will be a large fee. so in this edition of the war program, i want to talk first about some. to me things that

our defense enterprises are currently overcoming, and the second is, of course, about the combat experience of using both drones and armored vehicles on the battlefield. my name is serhiy zguureyts, i am the director of the information and consulting company defense express, and my interlocutors today are managers and representatives of two leading defense companies of ukraine. and now we are joined by artem vyunnyk, the director of the tlon avia research and production enterprise. mr. artem, i congratulate you. glad to see and hear congratulations, sergey, congratulations, mutual, let me remind you that your company supplies the armed forces with the furiya 1 unmanned artillery reconnaissance complex of fire adjustment, it has been adopted and is being mass-produced, by the way, even before the start of the active phase of the war with the russian federation, and that in these 18 months hostilities, your company has scaled production many times, what used to be... produced in a year, is now

produced in a month. so, the need for a significantly larger number of bpp is this, well, the first conclusion from what we made from this war, but... but what conclusions did you draw regarding production and design changes and use and assistance in training personnel, which are then used by the fury, what conclusions did you draw precisely after these 18 months of hostilities through the prism of your enterprise? yes indeed, we have increased production, on the scale that it requires today, of course, there are a lot of organizational conclusions as well. and technical . our enemy, and of course we are working in

the direction of technical development and development of our, let's say, engineering potential, in the direction of training our operators. er, let's say this, before the war we were not engaged in training, we were not involved in it , in fact we exclusively trained instructors for training centers, to date we have already actively included in this process, because we understand that the facilities, training centers that are engaged in the training of operators for the unmanned furia complex, they are not enough, again it must be said that an issue that unfortunately existed... even before the war, before the full-scale invasion , it continues to this day, and it seems to me that if you answer the question that you asked in the beginning, what is needed in order to scale further, in order to further develop our military industry, i think that

a very big, let's say, factor that influences, or can influence positively or negatively, and unfortunately, mostly negative today, is the timeliness of concluding contracts and the long-term duration of these contracts, that is , today we still have formally, a defense order, a three-year contract, unfortunately we have annual contracts that are signed at the end of the year with execution until the end of the next, but it is not clear what will happen next, and unfortunately we fall into this trap where we cannot develop our capabilities further, because we do not understand what will actually happen already... next year, and then we receive a request from the military, how much can you, and of course, the capacities that are current, they do not correspond to the, therefore, the request of the military, which currently exists, so it seems to me that it is necessary to develop one

everyday, daily working communication with the military, so that they understand, understand that production is not something that was ordered today and received tomorrow. because the logistics are very difficult, i think my colleagues will say, further, confirm this, that now what, for example , was supplied for a month or two, today has been supplied for 3-4 months, and by the way, this is also a consequence of the fact that the capacities of foreign producers are not limitless either, no, they also have limits and they are also adjusting now, already in a year and a half the capacities have increased, in our suppliers, but still, this is not enough, having three-year, at least, and preferably five-year contracts for our products, we could plan much more precisely and develop production, both in a qualitative sense and in

a quantitative sense. mr. artem, but in addition to long-term planning, another problem has unexpectedly been added that can affect the pace, the quality of the manufacture of our unmanned systems, i know that your company and a number of other companies have approached the general headquarters, literally yesterday or the day before yesterday, to solve the problem associated with reservation of employees of specialized defense industry enterprises, this concerns your company, kabluch, ukspetssim and other companies that really supply a significant number of samples of weapons for our army, what happened, what is the essence of the problem, at what stage is it now? yes, sergey, this is a big problem, it is kind of absurd, in my opinion, because the companies that produce weapons, military equipment for the armed forces, which are so necessary today on the battlefield, received a refusal from the general staff, from the ministry of defense,

in the reservation of employees, i.e. a total refusal, i understand that this may have happened due to certain technical nuances, but in but let's say this, today there is such a phenomenon as scarce specialties, these are usually people who are quite highly qualified, and for example... example, we have one of the key company employees, engineers, designers, they also have these scarce specialties, and i understand that this situation arose due to the cancellation of certain regulatory documents in september of this year, but in fact we have the following situation: 10 on october, the pre-booking of almost the majority of employees of our company ends, and this is a sign, and this means that actually from the 10th, any of these

employees can be mobilized, and considering the fact that the documents were resubmitted only the day before yesterday, and only for that part of the employees who do not have these scarce specialties, i predict that this reservation will take place in a month, that is, what to do during this month for the people who will be... in fact, how will they be serve summonses and mobilize, i honestly don't know, especially considering that even with the existing reservation, we have cases almost every day where people are taken to tck, in fact, there have even been cases at gunpoint, er, staff rhetoric the tsc is such that it is a piece of paper, the order of the ministry of economy is a piece of paper that is worthless, and for some reason this problem

occurs in our western regions, where we also have production facilities, i think that we should pay attention to this problem and it is possible to regulate it at the legislative level, in fact, saying the following, if the enterprise fulfills a government contract for a defense order, that is, it is a defense procurement. then absolutely all employees should be banned without taking into account wasps or any other percentages of employees and so on. by the way, there is also the problem of changing military accounting specialties, which took place in the 19th year and, it seems, later, and which today also create huge problems, because many of the employees have military tickets with

the so-called obsolete wasps, when they come to the military headquarters to clarify these wasps, to correct these numbers, they actually find themselves in a situation where they also begin to be mobilized, i believe that we still live in a legal country, we have to obey the law , the law must be observed by everyone , including employees of territorial assembly centers, this is a big problem, and in addition to everything, let’s say, important for the country, there are also such issues, for example, as banal fines for enterprises that until today amount to crazy percentages, and on the one hand we have the mobilization of key employees, potential, and on the other hand , we have obligations to the state with huge fines, how can it be during the war, well, to be honest, it is not clear

, we hope that our collective appeal, which we signed from several companies that received this refusal, to the general committee, it will somehow be taken into account and the right decisions will be made and our engineers and designers will continue to work on the tasks of our defense industry, i also i really hope, and then, if we continue the topic of personnel, we understand that one way or another , every company directs its efforts to have a significant number of high-quality employees, some of them go for mobilization, others, let's say, leave the company, yes or otherwise, and the question arises of expanding the personnel potential and creating conditions for the company to be replenished with truly professional personnel. what approaches do you currently use, can your company be a certain crystallization center for new competences, when new people just go to work at atlan avia, how are these processes formed now?

you raised a very important question, it is not only important for tlanavi, it is important for all manufacturers of high-tech products , because today there is such a crazy shortage of personnel, because many competent people still ended up abroad after the start of a full-scale invasion, many people , let's say, they don't have... they don't have the opportunity, they didn't have the opportunity to be booked there in a certain period and ended up actually on the battlefield, uh, today, we do everything possible to attract... the most competent personnel that we can attract, we create opportunities for people, let's say, of a financial nature, and we do everything so that they can learn, experiment, to develop their potential and create new models that are needed,

needed by the military in today's such a hybrid, very unusual. in a war where half the drones are used, which before no one even thought possible, can become such a powerful weapon, but then again it this is the answer to the situation that we have, the lack of almost high -precision means of destruction, serious systems that are so necessary, but which, unfortunately, the development of which is actually still ongoing, continues, again, because there was not... priorities were formed at a certain time, in a certain period, let's say, after the 14th year, i think they could and should be formed and work on the development of these samples was established, but today this, this, let's say, these missions cover fpv, drones that hit both

enemy equipment and enemy manpower, but again this is a small tactical depth, so we need serious developments that will hit targets at a depth of tens of kilometers, and we are also working on this, and our colleagues are working, and i think that our engineering potential will be enough to solve these problems. and by the way, you could probably compare our capabilities with the capabilities of foreign companies, when just a few days ago a forum of defense industries was held in kyiv, where the president of ukraine was there, the heads of the ministry of defense, the minister of technology were there, we had, you had the opportunity to communicate with colleagues from other countries. what impression did you have after this event, did you manage to find new contacts, and how will this affect the expansion, relatively speaking, of your projects, or

the involvement of some foreign competences or finances to solve the projects that you are currently carrying out in the interests of: armed forces forces yes, indeed, we took part in this event, and i must say that, in my opinion, the most positive thing is that, finally, the ministry of strategy and industry, with the arrival of a new team, is becoming a powerful player, a state player, in this segment, and we hope that the new minister with his team will still be able to... settle all those issues that we have already accumulated over the years, this is what we talked about, long-term contracts , and approaches to pricing, and in general, let's say, the state's participation in the development of the latest models, but at the same time, this forum really gave an opportunity to talk with colleagues, with colleagues from ukraine, with colleagues from the united

states, america, france, germany, to exchange thoughts, ideas, there are certain, let's say yes, plans for cooperation, but still, it seems to me that we should not, should not , emphasize that we will be given some technologies, some products will be handed over to us, we should rely on our potential, our capabilities, and the capabilities of foreign our partners, of course, to use in projects that may be interesting to us, and also to them, because this is a business in any case, and they will not invest money in those projects, or their competences, which, let's say, will not return to them with some results in the future. mr. artem, thank you very much for

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we will talk about the use of armored vehicles on the battlefield, about what conclusions our military and industrialists draw from the use of tanks, bmps, armored personnel carriers in the new conditions of the war with the russian federation. and now we are in touch with mykola salamakha, a retired lieutenant colonel. of projects at the domestic defense and industrial company energy 2000 and who is thoroughly familiar with all samples of armored weapons mr. mykolo is happy to see and welcome you to the spresso channel. good day, first of all i would like to start not so much with the collection of equipment , but with the continuation of the things that echoed in the theses of your predecessor in the program of artem vyunnyk, what he said, he said that such a difficult situation related to reservations has now developed to the personnel that manufactures, weapons, equipment in his company, in the lower part of the company, then i would like to ask if this

problem exists for energy 2000 and i would like your answer to be heard on the television videos that our directors are currently showing, to understand the technological level of the simulators that the energy 2000 company makes and how complex they are , and for all the viewers to see what a military simulator really is, so what do you have with the staff, with booking, with the sufficiency of personnel to do such complex things? unfortunately, our company is no different from the rest of the private, and sometimes state-owned companies that produce military or dual purpose products and it is very difficult to reserve staff, that is. and sometimes even such arise the question is that if a person received armor, then the person received armor for a certain period,

well, but all these to... documents come to the territorial recruitment center, and after a person received armor, he passes the military-hospital commission accordingly, he receives a lot of information and then brings a copy of the armor to the territorial assembly center , and there the person is told right in the face that as soon as you run out of armor, you will be the first to be mobilized, and we are forced to... quite often in such cases or repeat reservation, or indeed, we already have cases when people were simply mobilized and we lost valuable specialists. and by the way, how is it now with the state defense order and the production of simulators for the armed forces.

this process is ongoing, because now we have seen simulators for armored personnel carriers, we know that you also make simulators for anti-aircraft missiles and atgms, what is the current demand for these components, how are they ordered, how are they used by the military in the conditions of current hostilities? well, let's say the last 20 months, the number of exercise machines that we make for of the armed forces of ukraine, for the state border service of ukraine and for the national guard of ukraine increased by an order of magnitude, i.e. there is a problem, there are many problems, problems of such a nature that it is very difficult to predict what will be necessary literally in two or three months, that is, the terms of design and release, compressed to the maximum possible minimum, and that is the process of treating children's diseases, what developed and released,

unfortunately, it is almost impossible to shorten this period, so we have to cooperate very closely with operations and try to get everything done as soon as possible . mr. mykola, now we have a lot of samples of foreign equipment from tanks, battleships, bmps, should this segment be filled by national manufacturers, in order to improve the use of this equipment, or has our military leadership not yet reached this point ? well, there are two ways, the first way is to ask for simulators from the manufacturers who supply us with weapons, but western-made simulators are more expensive, sometimes five times, sometimes ten times, that's one way. and the second way

to develop and put into operation simulators of ukrainian production, but we receive a lot of samples of equipment and weapons and it is almost impossible to cover the entire list, this is the first component of the question, and the second component of the question, unfortunately, the ministry of defense and the general staff cannot predict how many of that number of samples of military equipment. of one type , which we received today, will remain in service the day after tomorrow, that is, literally in two or three months we can, we can lose about a third on the battlefield, so what if the combat operations will continue for a year and a half or two, then we can lose much more , and accordingly, then the need for such a simulator will disappear, but if there is a guarantee that

the supply of this same model will continue, then definitely there in a year and a half to produce such a simulator and prepare and the personnel who will operate this equipment, and even the personnel who will come to replace the one who will leave, there in connection with injuries, in connection with some other situations, of course, and then directly before the use of the equipment itself armored vehicles on the battlefield, now we have received a certain number of foreign powerful tanks, and these tanks were developed for a certain tactics of use on the battlefield, which is different from the soviet one, which we partially inherited, i would like you to evaluate whether