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our conversation stepan barno , a serviceman of the 10th separate mountain assault brigade edelweiss, the same famous brigade that terrifies putin himself. mr. stepan, good morning. good morning, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. mr. stepan, not only delveysya is terrifying, but every soldier who stands today on the front line, defends. ukrainian sovereignty and beating the enemy, of course, they would like there to be no ukraine and those ukrainian defenders, they would like to be the second army of the world, yes, but, but the ukrainians show that everything is not so simple, mr. stepan,

but have the ukrainian defenders just now already what a month...' more than six months, a year and a half to stand, and it is not yet known how much is ahead, it is already almost the 19th month that we are in the battles, and directly our brigade is here, already year and a half only in donbas, since may of last year, without any rotations, and we feel, of course, our peculiarities, we feel the need to rest, we feel the need for rotation, but the awareness that there are not many of us guys who are left and units that can effectively carry out combat operations the task, let's put it this way, forces us to be here today, because believe me, to find a motivated person, to find a fighter who has experience of combat operations in the donbas, this is extremely important, plus it is necessary

to understand that any rotation, it extremely difficult for any unit, why, because experience shows that the entry of a new unit into a certain line of responsibility leads to losses, and this must be made impossible today, and for sure, this is also a certain advantage, which gives us the opportunity to protect the lives of our boys. in general, how are you...' now the feeling has been going on for how many months now, five ukrainian offensives, what kind of interim results can be made, if they can be made, well, if you imagine the specifics of the division's languages, then in fact everything is unchanged with us , we are to the north of solodar, we are actually in conditions, fields, our war is a struggle

for every meter of ukrainian land, er, our er, villages are the landings for which we are fighting, but none the less, if.. . to evaluate some intermediate successes, we must talk about them not only from the position of captured territories, liberated territories, but also from the position of saving lives, soldiers, this is an extremely important resource that we have today, and the time that allows pressure the international community on the russian occupier in order to make his further actions impossible. his further offensive on the territory of ukraine, recently in ternopil, actually in your hometown, there was a story there that became a bit scandalous, even the local tsk is currently conducting an inspection, there appeared

a video of them packing, so to speak, using force, a minibus of men near some bacchus restaurant, and the second video, it was taken near atb, a chain of stores , well, these are some moments, i don’t know, from the mobilization process, what do you think about it, as a serviceman who left as a volunteer to fight, on this matter i have an unequivocal position that motivated, prepared boys and girls should fight in the ukrainian army, this is a matter of principle, believe me, i would never want to get into a position with an unmotivated person who is afraid to fight, eh, because this is a terrible thing, because panic attacks that occur when a person hides, falls, er, screams , hits the ground in convulsions, well, i wouldn't wish this on anyone,

first of all, you have to think about how to cover yourself one, and the other - you have to think, er, no to think about how to try to save there, or try to calm the person , in us, we are in fighting conditions, so we do not need to panic, and i would like to note that my position is unchanged, we should work in the direction, the state should work in in the direction of finding motivated boys and girls who want to fight and defend the ukrainian land, it is the state that should deal with the training of future military personnel today. who will replace those who will be demobilized, and we must work on this today, today everyone must undergo medical training, military training, and technical training that can be potentially useful for our victory, and as for the category

of people who can be, for example, it specialists useful in another field, i believe that the state should involve them in such ... areas that will be extremely important from the point of view of the fight against the occupier, it is definitely not worth sending an aitishnik if he has no desire to join the infantry, and the infantryman is potentially there, i don't know who, to make an aitishnik or a cyber warrior, this it's deep a mistake and everyone should understand that everyone should do their work in a certain direction, but this work should be done in accordance with... own ages and beliefs, sociologists say, well, if we take some turning points in our still short history of independence , i mean this very independence of the 91st, 90th, 91st years

of the last century and until now, and you know, there is a revolution on the granite, it was made there by several hundred students in fact at the beginning, at least the orange revolution more, people, the revolution of dignity even more people, but even at the peak of the revolution of dignity, sociologists say that actually only 10% of the population took part directly in the revolution, 10% of the population decided that ukraine was joining the european union, that ukraine was joining nato and that ukraine is ready to go and fight, does that mean that those 10% now have to fight and die for it, or is it still the business of the whole country? that is, i really like your thesis that unmotivated people, well, they are of little use in the front line, but on the other hand, what can be done with somehow, people, they are always somewhere, somewhere all the time in the foreground, or somewhere in the foreground

of the revolution, or in the foreground of the warriors, well, first of all, we always have in ukraine, the so-called passionate part of society was formed. which at appropriate moments in the history of ukraine took an active, active part and led to certain victories, and there are many such stories, and for us it is an extremely important component of our people, which awakens the ukrainian people to responsibility, to the determination of some strategic steps in the development of our country. in in this case, we are talking about the fact that throughout all those events that you are talking about, we stood on the values, that is , the values ​​of democracy, the values ​​of freedom of speech, the values ​​of the european community and joining nato, that is where we should move in the future, so on this

and it is necessary today, it must be emphasized, but i say once again that we must also count on the potential work that should be carried out today in matters of training, people, citizens of our state, at any moment, regardless of position, regardless of social status, to defend our country, it is extremely important to work on it, and when there is an effective combination of the passionate part, of society , which will set the direction, protection, ideological direction of the defense of ukraine, with those who can and want to hold weapons, i think that this will give the corresponding result, and as you can see, the russian occupiers themselves did not expect that during... these years, they can, for half a year and nine months, they will not get,

that they will be able to get such, such losses, for example, in the military force , it is over if i'm not mistaken, 280 thousand dead orks on ukrainian soil, that's almost 5,000 tanks, tens of thousands of technical units of equipment, which are lost on ukrainian soil, today... will lead, and i hope, will lead to irreversible catastrophic consequences in russia itself , and in the end will force the whole world to rethink new principles, approaches to building a security system in the world, about the world and about rethinking, the last thing i ask you, mr. stepan, i think you have your principled position on this matter, donald trump, who ... really wants to become again

the president of america, said that he has a very simple solution to end this war, they say that the russian -speaking regions should simply be given to russia, what would you say to donald trump, you know, i would not like to offend the american people, who supports us, the vast majority, unfortunately, have such manifestations, but no one certainly wants to change or return russian-speaking alaska, russia, or er, texas to mexico, and many, many other territories that formed the united states of america today, i think that today we need to think about the consolidation of the world and about building a new security system, a step. proposed by donald trump, unfortunately, in many circumstances will put society in a precarious

situation, because experience shows that the exchange of territories does not solve problems, but only exacerbates them, including, if we are talking about russian-speaking ukraine, then it is far from the same , and even believe me, when you're on the front lines here, it's going to be a windfall for donald trump to see a lot. russian-speakers in the same trenches with ukrainian-speakers, tatar-speakers, with citizens of different countries, english-speakers who defend the ukrainian land, therefore it is necessary to draw conclusions about how to build this system, which in the future will make it impossible to take similar manifestations of territories on ethnic, linguistic or other grounds, on some other signs.

mr. stepan, thank you, thank you for your answer, stepan barna, a serviceman of the 10th separate mountain assault brigade deelweis, and the former head of the ternopil oda. let's take a short break before that i will say that i thank you, that 90 has already been added to our account since the announcement of the collection, and then mykola malomush will be with us, we will be with him. analyze the situation at the front and what is happening in israel, whether it affects the course of the war in ukraine, we will talk about it later, stay with us. turn on well, that's when everything is as you want. click and now you control the game. the bird and you are in a tv show. oh, what is needed. mego. turn on hundreds of channels, thousands of movies and sports. stress? there are discounts on gliceset and gliceset tablets max. 15% in pharmacies

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friends, now we will talk with mykola the younger, the general. of the army of ukraine, the head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine in 2005-2010, we will analyze what is happening on the ukrainian front, as well as analyze the events that are happening now in israel, whether they have an impact on the war in ukraine, meanwhile, what i want to tell you is that as soon as we start talking about something about a language, for example, ukrainian, the power of the selenium kremlinbots immediately rushes to our youtube broadcast, so dear friends, you you know what to do to overcome them, your preferences. help keep the youtube channel of the tv channel in the suggested list, so stay , leave your fingers up under our youtube broadcast, because i see that today those kremlebots are not sleeping at all, it is you who help us, and also help our army, when you click on the qr- the code is in the lower left corner, and mykola molomush is already with us, mr. mykola, good morning to you

, congratulations, glory to ukraine, cheers, actually, we will probably start with the fact that another attack of the missile site in dzhonkoi, the occupiers stated that a missile attack took place in crimea and that there were explosions in dzhankoi, in other words, the attacks are quite successful in ukraine in crimea, what can this indicate, and in fact, how successful, in your opinion, is the progress offensive in the direction, actually in the south, but first of all we are talking about the fact that every day we are already mastering the enemy's targets, this is on the peninsula as a whole, but also on the territory of the russian federation, and on more important objects , where the shahed launchers are located, aviation systems, well, missile models, such as the s-400, we already get a number of directions even

where they create navigation for iskanders, that is, it is indicated that we have mastered precisely the model of striking strategic objects and striking jonka, this is one of formats where ammunition warehouses, logistics centers, and military units are located. well, of course, there are nearby airfields, guidance systems on our territories , and calibers that are accompanied by those formats to shift trajectories, that is, these are targets, so to speak, military facilities that form the strategy of striking our territory and in the future can serve as obstacles in the form of the creation of some strongholds or fire units to prevent the advance in the kherson region and, of course, in the territory of the crimea, when we will liberate just peninsula, so at the moment it is very important, we destroy systematically, starting from the fleet, headquarters,

warehouses, oil depots, respectively control centers, relay systems and coastal parts, which we are talking about and the method of application strikes, both this night and the method of landing sabotage sabotage groups, will destroy already on the coastal part, like you, what is your...' assessment of what is currently happening in other areas of the front? first of all, we are talking about the southern direction, we are really moving step by step and regaining new positions in the direction of tokmak, the enemy has already understood that for him , the loss of tokmek and then the movement of our troops to mariupol and berdyansk is actually a loss of the war, i can say clearly why, because it actually overlaps the entire zaporizhzhya group region from the flanks, and then, accordingly, it is only a matter of technique to deliver powerful blows, land in the kherson region and close this group there, that is why today they

transfer large units from the tick, respectively to liman, they have already transferred one brigade, an airborne regiment, now they are pulling up those new ones accordingly, a number of army groups were mobilized, well, let's understand a large number of missile systems, artillery in order to... conduct a counter-battery fight, but near the tokmak we can see dragon's teeth being built, three lines of fortifications, but these are not the ones that were, for example, in the kherson region, which were prepared for a year, a year and a half, and these are really light ones, which we are destroying, gradually, gradually moving, and we are already covering the logistical direction with firepower, this is the railway, this is the important thing, which really makes it possible to send the troops somewhere , living force. about 2/3 of this military aid to the enemy of the zaporizhzhya group is used for equipment, 25% is only going through the crimea, so it was felt that

active forms of countermeasures were beginning, but we are gradually moving in this direction every day, and we are just gradually bypassing the takmak direction, and this is a prerequisite for the closure of the railway and the takmak itself, and this is the key to the closure of the southern corridor. i think the perspective is, even if we don't look at the weather, we will still move on, the weather will not be decisive, the more it matters to the enemy, so at the moment, i think this direction will be the main one with strategic and tactical offensive operations, and in the perspective of strategic offensive operations throughout the south and up to the crimea, and the second component, what we are talking about, is a symbol of our stability, but a symbol of possible liberation today. bakhmut, this is an extremely important topic of the military-political plan, because putin, uh, i really see that he will lose, he is throwing

new, new forces there, literally, this night they pulled up several more units and widows, marines, even new mercenaries , including wagner, a part of which was used from the positions of the armed forces of the russian federation under their auspices, in order to hold the positions, the loss of the enemy's bahmut, and from our side, this will have an effect on the long-term, so to speak, well, real victory and the formation of the military of our so-called powerful mood, this is the loss, accordingly, most importantly, of all the so-called positions of putin, who declared that he was advancing, that he had thwarted the counteroffensive of the armed forces, well, that bakhmut was a symbol for him, that he had seized something, and it will clearly show russian society that putin is not so all-powerful, and those statements. which he did, they are simply failures for the world, because against this background they see that such and such a city, which does not have an extremely large military and political significance,

but has, uh, well, of course, such a strategic format and the formation of world support, this will prove once again in the world format that we are liberating iconic cities and are really moving on and there is a prospect of movement in the east, but these are not the only two directions, the south and bakhmut, which we are talking about, there are others sectoral directions that can carry out strikes are in the experienced districts, they can be counterattacks, just in place, even ughledar and other places, but here already... it is a matter of command, how to work in the main directions, diversionary strikes and how to withdraw the armed forces of russia in separate sectors in order to so that we can strike, they are trying to disorient us, draw up forces , for example, from the format, for example, kupyansk, svato, kremina to the south and east, we are trying to target them precisely in separate sectors, near avdiivka, marinka, we are expected to see and

strike the corresponding... and this is a lowering of the reserves, which they are trying to use as a counter-action to our offensives in order to distract our forces, it does not work, we identify intelligence opportunities, prepare for early positions, and especially high-precision weapons, which are arriving today, help us destroy them at long distances. mr. mykola, we have two minutes left, please tell me, the experts of the institute for the study of war say that the kremlin can use this situation, the war in israel. and the attack by hamas to promote the narrative that the war in ukraine is no longer interesting to anyone and no one will support the ukrainian army, what do you think about this, in this regard, with all their might, they are trying to carry it out among western countries, third parties countries, arab countries and even israel to lead, namely the usa, first

turn and the west did not work out some kind of model situation, it seems that the west is in these this is actually such a fake that they launch, but today the axis is emerging, clear, yes indeed the usa supports, allocates 8 billion dollars for support, but this is a systematic aid to israel, israel will cope today with this situation, he has all the forces, means of the latest type, even the fact that ukraine is given weapons, military equipment of the fifth-sixth generation, israel has it, and today they already have a real victory, but this will not hinder us, yes , this rhetoric will still be there, still... change they will talk about it, but we are building the news, it must be informative and practically carried out, all so to speak, these terrorist acts in israel, it will not happen to anyone, respectively, because hamas, respectively, and hezbollah, they are oriented towards russia, they were created in their time the soviet union, supported operationally, financially and politically, by russia and iran, so to speak, their operation , they prepared it for a long time, prepared it during the war,

used the war in ukraine to attack israel, so today it is necessary to create an informational, organizational and defensive the common axis, yes, the struggle against hamas and all so-called theoretical organizations, against iran, which helps, but it also helps russia, against us and against russia, the main global organizer, the beneficiary of this operation, so today we must work to neutralize all these messages that the russian federation is making and to unite all forces then to protect israel and ukraine. no wonder biden said: we can allocate 100 million now to help ukraine, and they can allocate it. mr. mykola, thank you, mykola malomuzh, general of the army of ukraine, the head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine in 2005-2010, we are gradually approaching the 9 o'clock hour, when the whole country commemorates those ukrainians whose lives were taken by russian aggression, and after that, we will return to this studio and continue

our marathon, and for... friends, i'm begging you, let's honor the memory of all the ukrainians who died because of russia. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of ukrainian soldiers and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.