[000:00:00;00] to justify their position, because they think that it will make them more attractive in the eyes of donald trump, so for their own benefit, they will point to corruption in ukraine, to any insufficient means, to the wrong forms of ownership, that is, they will pressure on vulnerable places. as for the current progress of the zelski government in carrying out reforms, i cannot give any assessment. after all, i don't think anyone is watching it as closely as before the war. because of course we are all focused on the war, but if you look at the way he tries to weed out corruption from the ministry of defense, for example, in matters of procurement and others, the impression is completely positive. in the end, not so much the situation with internal reforms in ukraine will determine whether the united states will continue to help. in fact, first of all, everything depends on who will be elected speaker of the house of representatives

of the united states congress. and so whoever wins the presidential election in 2024, and if it is trump, we have already heard him, he will figure out how to stop the war in 24 hours, frankly, i don't think he will stop helping ukraine , he realized when he was the current president that the united states should have given ukraine javelins so that it could defend itself and thank god that happened, trump is not very good at subtleties geopolitics and everything he does is transactional, that is, he wants to know his benefit from this or that step. i think that president zelensky will find out how ukraine will be able to reach those who need it. speaker of the house of representatives, who b it was not, in the end you have to listen to the president of the united states, because even when the united states gravitated towards isolationism, even when our first president, george

washington, advised americans to avoid what he called foreign ties, the united states always had an inherent idealistic motivation, which was the idea that the united states would make the world safe for democracy. i think these trends will persist in american politics and will persist as long as we are with you and your viewers watching the policy of the united states, regarding the lease, it is impossible to pedal this issue now, because the house of representatives cannot... meet and do official business, since it does not have a speaker. only when a new speaker is elected. the house of representatives will return to business, and the speaker will control which motions or bills can be brought up for a vote. so if the speaker is going to be the gentleman i mentioned, jim jordan, i do n't think he'll ever put up with such a bill for a vote in the house of representatives, and biden will have no

legislative way to do anything. on the other hand, if steve scalise of louisiana is elected speaker, i'm sure he'll want bills like the lendless proposal to come up for a vote in congress, so if that vote comes up, i have no doubt that the bill will pass and become law, but it is impossible to predict the future at this time because the legislative schedule or agenda depends entirely on who will be elected as the next speaker of the house of representatives. thank you very much, dear mr. ambassador, for this extremely interesting and honest conversation on the air of the tv channel, and i want to remind our tv viewers that matthew bryza, ex-adviser of the secretary of state of the united states, former director of european and eurasian affairs in the

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well, the americans came out of their shutdown, but at our expense, relatively speaking, that is, they did not write 45 days in their temporary budget, what do you think is happening in the united states and how seriously will they be ready to defend the well-established line of the biden administration in support of ukraine. well, let's start with something else. on the one hand, the ukrainian issue entered american domestic politics right at that moment, that is, it has been present since the first impeachment of trump, who, as we remember, wanted to get papers, black papers on biden from president zelensky, on biden and him, his son, so that ukraine, the ukrainian theme, the ukrainian problem is present in american domestic politics.

it has become an element of this internal policy, should we be happy or not happy about it, well, i would say that there is nothing to be happy about, because it is not good when some problem occurs, an element of internal confrontation, it would be desirable if it was preserved bipartisan support for ukraine, and this bipartisan support for ukraine exists, but there is a minority that sets the tone in the republican party for this music, that is, trump and his supporters which are isolationist, and they will use any elements against, against trump. we also understand that an element of this internal problem, ukrainian in quotation marks, as we will call it, is also the impeachment or preparation for the impeachment of biden himself by the republicans, due to attention among others, due to the activities of his son, his son hunter , and among others. as well as his business interests, hunter faces

charges, but not what he earned here in ukraine or in connection with ukraine money, only what he obtained illegally kept in the house, he kept weapons in the house, in his own house, he was once under the influence of drugs, i am telling you this, and i am caught in the thought that how much should be told in order to answer... very simple question, what does this mean for ukraine? of course, not for very good news, yes, because when there is no 45 days there is conditional support, and everyone in the world says that there is no money to support ukraine, even the president of the united states goes to his allies from the g7 group, from nato and tells that america is steadfast stands with ukraine and this money will be for the support of ukraine, dersh-secretary blinken declares the same, the pentagon is preparing.

the next arms deliveries to ukraine, president zelenskyy declares that america is with us, that is the canvas, bipartisan, support is maintained, that is, everything is in principle, everything is not good, but still there is some, you know, internally disturbing feeling, that is, it is somehow not so leaves, i know, i always come out of such a situation in my life, each, every crisis is at the same time an opportunity, well, let's face it, the most alarming signal is not that the mikart was removed from... speaker positions will be appointed by someone else, and someone else, in order to secure the support of eight republicans, will say that we will not support ukraine with weapons or that we will not give money and so on, what is the point, what is the point in this, why they took, removed this speaker mekkarty, because there is a small group of trumpists, such tough trumpists around congressman goetz from florida. who has

such a tooth gnashed very strongly against mekkarta and said: "i will remove you from this position", well, the republican gained eight votes to 218 not much, well, as one democrats said problems and help out your leader in the house of representatives, every opposition works in any country in the world, especially since the election campaign has started, an election campaign that america, nor the world, has yet to see. on the other hand, well, we have a good memory, and we remember in our time how the united states supported afghanistan, i don't want to compare afghanistan and ukraine, but in any case they were also steadfast, they allocated a lot a lot of money, and then there was a certain somersault, and president joseph biden, so to speak , looked at the evacuation from afghanistan with great sadness in his eyes, it is clear that it is not correct. to compare with the ukrainian situation, but in any case, this is just

talk about the fact that america can also throw away so-called horses. no, i don't think that it should take place in this particular case, taking into account that in addition to america, there is also europe, and i think that we will talk about europe and that europe, as it were, makes historic decisions that are commendable for ukraine in support of ukraine and the future of ukraine, and to complete the american line so to speak of our conversation, let's say this, support for the provision of weapons to ukraine is decreasing, especially in the republican electorate, this should be a chance for ukraine, like a challenge and a chance, ugh, which, well, we need to work more with... public opinion, you travel in the states , and to write articles, a huge tragedy happened, so in the village of khersonsko selo groza, kupinsky district , kharkiv region, there were people at the memorial service, a russian bomb fell and 49 people died in it, a six-year-old boy,

well, barbarism, well, we need to tell about it, it didn’t go anywhere, guys, you’re having fun, and the russian barbarian continues to advance, destroy ukrainians, this must be shown and shouted to everyone, everyone must tell about it that nothing is over, the ceasefire will come today, in 2028 russia will prepare not only for against ukraine, but against the baltic countries, and yes, against other states , that is, it is clear, there is no need to invent anything here, it does not lie on the table, on the surface, that is, there is no stopping, there must be support for ukraine, and it must be, and interpret, not just perceive it, but something such something terrible is happening, the election campaign, the election campaign, the time is so dynamic, it has its own rules, but there are states that regulate their principles and their activities, you see, here is a pen, yes there is a pen, i don’t know, let’s imagine that

this is president biden's notebook, so he must put his signature in order to finalize the story of the transfer of long-range missile systems to us in a cassette configuration, so to speak , he drags, he postpones, the americans agreed to allocate us as many as 31 abrams tanks, but not 231, but from where you know what he pulled well, at least he dragged it to the last moment, president biden said that he gave ukraine everything that america has given ukraine everything that president zelensky wanted recently, everything, well, we will not receive any more information, it must be taken as a fact, and what attacks or not we will attack, how will they fight, this is already the decision of the military, i would say so, politically in my opinion the decision has already been made, the political decision must be signed by president biden, yes, and i think that if he singled out, then i think that he wouldn't refrained, i understand that antin borkovskyi

with myroslav chekh must be the pen that lies in biden's office, and monitors what is signed there, a bunch of secret cases and so on. so i adhere to this opinion, when less is said about what is transferred to ukraine , and it appears better on the crow, i don't want to know, i want to know one thing, that the ukrainian military has more and more expanded opportunities to beat the enemy, and that's the main thing. the polish-ukrainian conflict, its invisible and visible form, yes, well, when we exchanged very harsh statements, we understand, well no as if this matter started to slow down, so everyone assures us that everything will be fine after the elections, but i am sure that here it is not only a matter of emotions, and politicians, in particular polish and ukrainian ones, have a very good memory , and we understand that the so-called bouquet-candy period is now moving into another phase, i.e. it is possible that more hard pragmatism will appear after the elections, so what can we expect now from

polish-ukrainian relations and whether it will be possible to improve them, for example, we understand that it is political it is very difficult to turn minced meat the other way around in a meat grinder, but i would like to believe that certain economic things will be pushed aside and the focus will be on safety issues, but it does not happen that the flies are separate from the cutlets, unfortunately, it takes a bit to separate the fly from the cutlets, well, i i don't want to be a scornful freud, i.e. a gloating one, to please myself with such consolation, but as when law and justice lose to the opposition, the democratic one, the democratic opposition will gain a majority in the civic platform. the platform, the left and the third way together will have a majority in parliament, i will say that bad deeds will be punished while still alive. law and justice launched a huge campaign against ukraine, unprecedented, absolutely, taking into account grain, refugees,

and other elements, and statements about this, that maybe there will be no more military aid and so on, this should not have been done, the result there is such a thing, support for helping refugees in ukraine has decreased from 60% to 30%, and accordingly it has risen, well, even before this support, ukrainian women are being beaten in some villages, they are going, here is the latest information: a woman, a ukrainian, a bizhynka with a five-year-old child was walking, two drunks began to call her out of the worst and so on, and such incidents, unfortunately, unfortunately, are coming, and this is all the result of the actions of politicians, social fatigue, and we too from the poles, let's not make angels out of them, you know, poor people both in ukraine and in poland, they are present in society, i actually know a little about polish society. the mood was like this, the poles were not tired of helping the ukrainians, of course they have a hard time there, inflation and

so on, instead it is the fault of the politicians that they are trying to play on this politically and lose points, what am i talking about right-wingers, they thought to themselves that they are growing a confederation, a pro-russian party, an anti-ukrainian party, so we need to visit their electorate a little and attract them to these voters , the result so far looks like so that law and justice is losing support, little, because little, the confederation has lost support and is losing support, and thank god , if this happens, then i say that bad deeds will still be punished during your life, you should not play in the slovak situation, yes uh, well fizo, anti-ukrainian position, i think we all need to just breathe out, we can't breathe out in ukraine, we don't have the right to breathe out, because we have to always prepare for bad scenarios, let them. will be, you know, we need to understand how we should act in situation b. so, we have orbán, we have fico, and we do not know what the results

of the polish elections will be, but in defense of law and justice, i will say that they are everything was done at the political and military level so as not to create additional problems for us and helped as much as they could, that is, we are talking about quick solutions, that is, the allocation of weapons, the allocation of transit simplification, then yes, it concerns both people and yes, yes, i will be right as well... say that president duda and the polish government behaved in an exemplary manner in follow your society, exemplary, i told them about it publicly, and praised them and so on , but the election campaign, it seemed to them, the election campaign has its rights, let's then play with the ukrainian theme during the election, and that's why i say, let them be punished , this is an example will be a good example for other politicians, i think why i mentioned slovakia, and because oh, it happened, a big trouble and so on, well, of course, there is nothing to be happy about, but again, while

there is no new government, the old government, which assured that ukraine 's support remains and will be, nothing will happen, talks begin, first of all the european political community, i.e. more countries than the european union, and the meeting of the european council, i.e. this governing body in the european union, dedicated to the expansion of the european union to axis. for eight countries, but everyone understands that the main thing here is ukraine , and the first conversations about the political conditions of ukraine's accession, what the decision-making process will look like, secondly, the outline of the term, will it be yes, the horizon, uh, 2030, the year of ukraine's accession to the european union, that is, not just around the corner, six years, it is not much, in fact, for full membership to be, and the third most important thing, for ukraine to receive money? yes, as a full member, and in the process we more or less know, we know that the european union

has created a fund of 50 billion euros, which will to be transferred to ukraine over the next four to five years, this is guaranteed money, it is there, well, but there should be , so to speak, the signature of hungary on those guaranteed funds, and orban, listen, this is all bad, what can i say about prorban, i will talk about orban, he is simply cynical to the limit, when it comes to him that before such a situation , he has to make a decision, the question always arises, and what will i get out of this, what can i earn, can't earn, now negotiations are underway, whether the european union will release him the money after the new reconstruction fund or not, whether structural money will be provided to hungary, because all this is in question, the problem is that he is only talking about his lips. wipes out ukraine, and in fact, he is currently on the way out of the european union, he simply will not, yes , will not receive money, and nothing there will

shine on him that he will have some influence on decision-making, these are hungary's problems, not of ukraine, but in any case we understand, there is a question of a consensus decision, that is, the european union, there is a formal procedure, if orban refuses, for example, they have already bypassed it once, yes, they will bypass it once, they will bypass it a second time, the money is not accepted by consensus , only one consensus is accepted, the accession of ukraine to, because all states must ratify the membership agreement, even the beginning of these conversations on ukraine's integration into the european union does not require a consensus decision at the forums of all parliaments , the european council makes the decision, we are starting conversations with you, since they have been with the turks for... more than 50 years, and if it fails, for example, then one or the other homework, we can see how excited, for example, the americans are, yes, well, in principle, an understandable, but unseen story, when

a clear calendar appears, so to speak. fulfillment of certain tasks for ukraine, that is, the americans started doing this, now the europeans can start doing this, and we understand that we have to keep up, the europeans have already done it a long time ago, well, the europeans have seven criteria, which were, do you remember what they were seven european criteria, which the european recognition commission must determine in october, that is, this month, whether ukraine has fulfilled or no, it was determined by the status of the candidate, determined by how you will then be a full-fledged candidate for joining the european union, i remember, they removed this moment because ukraine did not have time, they softened it and so on, but it had to be done, ukraine did it that's all, and in december there will be a start, as everyone assures, assures, that there will be a start of negotiations on ukraine's accession to the european union, you know how many

conditions there will be for everyone, 3000 changes must be brought to ukrainian legislation, and here. there is no need to talk about, and what is this, and what you will just have to sit down stupidly, write laws, write changes, introduce them, have such a huge and more than 3,000, huge table, may executed, at what stage, approved, not approved, this is a slow procedure, i went through it in the parliament, you know on poland's accession to the european union, but i remember very well what the negotiations were like on the part of poland, yes, and the key story, if such a number. amendments to the legislation, you understand, in order not to miss something, which, for example, could harm the interests of ukraine, because there are also no children who just give out candy left and right, no, listen, europeans, americans , you can talk about the worst things in the world about the fact that they do not know how to earn money and do not know how to count money, this is what they know

very well, and here it is necessary, but ukrainians are also good at counting money, i'll tell you, you know that, some countries thought that ukrainians don't know how to count, well , they do, the latest information that is available, well, for example , they are already trying on the budget of the european union, as in 2030, ukraine will become a european member of the european union, during the first seven years of membership in the european union, do you know how much money ukraine receives for agricultural policy and for equalization between regions , 186 billion euros of money. clean, alive, without interest, without, there are no loans and so on, here and there kolomoisky was unlucky, such historical times are coming, you understand, and you are talking about a person, what about a bad thing, and a price, now the european union has thought about others, but it will mean that others will receive less, or we increase the budget

of the european union, these are the right conversations, and some of the european experts say the following: well, well, but the ukrainian case is a little different, considering that ukraine is on the verge of war, we have already given ukraine how much money there, it is also insured, but there are these huge russian funds that are frozen, over 300 billion dollars, so maybe this is also a part of it, is it in the interest of ukraine or not in the interest of ukraine, and they also say, and also american money, then guys, maybe ukraine wants too much, and these are already correct conversations, that is, when reached to reach to such a stage. i am happy with the concrete attention to this, because when they talk about the money that ukraine receives, it means that we are on the right track. thank you, myroslav, i would like to remind our viewers that myroslav cech, a member of the polish diet of the second term, public figure and historian, was currently working on espresso. thank you. thank you. the time of our program has run out, stay with espressu tv channel. my colleagues will

inform you about all the most important events of the day. take care of yourself and your loved ones, see you on the air. greetings, espresso news time, kateryna shirokpoyas works with you in the studio. 11 people were injured as a result of night shelling in the kherson region. among the victims, a mother and a baby, according to the doctors, the condition of both of them is of moderate severity, also with an explosive injury and a contusion, a red cross medic was hospitalized, this is what the head of the regional military administration, oleksandr prokudin, said. the occupiers set fire to the residential quarters of pravoberzhye. in kherson and in the stanislavska community, houses,