[000:00:00;00] yes, we will lose the bp, yes, we will lose the secretariat, yes, we will lose the group in striped swimsuits from the ministry of health and we will continue to work, work for victory, not for the provision of official structures, ready, ready now to withdraw and move on to preparing for the repeated second reading, please, thank you, next, amendment 37ma. well she, she says that she answered the previous time, no, how did she, 37 , i answered, you answer, please, not ready to send for a second reading, for a re- second reading, because we have literally 10 here a few minutes ago, the minister of defense was standing and said that at the end of october he would not have anything to pay the financial support to military personnel at the front, so now every minute is important to us and we must pass this

bill as soon as possible, thank you, please, 38th tymoshenko , yulia volodymyrivna, you will, you won't, you will, yulia volodymyrivna, your amendment, 38th, please, dear colleagues, we are talking about increasing expenses for the treatment of our wounded soldiers, the fact is that the situation with the financing of medical packages, it is extremely critical, precisely for the treatment of polytrauma, polytrauma, and we proposed that in this bill there should be a 3.578 0.277 increase in the revenue part in order to be able to direct it

to the increase in copper expenditures. package for the treatment of the wounded, this is not just an amendment, it is an amendment that has been discussed by hundreds of chief doctors, heads of hospitals from the national health service, i am asking for your support, because this is the number one priority today, it is time to put it on its feet. committee position on the 38th amendment hon colleagues, the 38th amendment was rejected, but from this block of amendments we took into account amendment 90 , which is on the same topic, this amendment partially took it into account, and in fact we propose to instruct the cabinet of ministers for the period of martial law to calculate tariffs and correction coefficients for medical and rehabilitation services, which include, among other things, enhanced five-time meals during rehabilitation in medical and rehabilitation institutions, for all military personnel, members

of the rank and file and senior staff and all people who have been traumatized, injured or maimed in connection with the defense of the homeland, we will demand from the cabinet of ministers to work out the issue of applying an increasing coefficient, which is not less than 3.0, that is, that the national health insurance package should be three times more expensive for people who were injured during hostilities . thank you dear. collegiate, you insist on these amendments , shall we go further, let's go further, thank you, the next, 39th amendment, mokan, well razumkov, yes, please, also five amendments, yes, ruslan aleksich, let's go five amendments, so that we already have, yes, include the time first, please, roxelana

andriivna, thank you, thank you, i am saying important things, let's still respect each other, don't be danilov, yes, don't consider yourself and the parliament swimming pool and a group in striped swimsuits, look, you correctly noted, the minister spoke and said that money is needed, great, there is, you people are very constructive in terms of smart politics, there is a correct proposal, let's... now let's accept one correction, which today will allocate the ministry of defense, mr. umerovo, to the armed forces to the forces of ukraine, even the amount that is in this bill, 1,902 billion, if i'm not mistaken, yes, we will postpone everything else, sit down, work, hire competent people, those who understand this, those who know

how. ..' and we will redistribute the funds to the armed forces of ukraine, and beb will rest a little, the secretariat of the cabinet of ministers will also rest a little. i can simply suggest to those who are not ready to go and talk to the boys and girls at the front, they are definitely more, more, more effective, i just spend a long time choosing the wording of what they will say, and you and i will be able to explain where the money should be allocated, for what needs, and something seems to me that in their priorities the cabinet secretariat will stand, well, somewhere very far away, if at all...' will appear, let's do it this way, are you ready to support, minister umerva, so that we do not waste time voting 192 billion, and then dividing the rest, the position of the committee, please, dmytro

oleksandrovich, but in addition, first of all, we have allocated 208 billion for the ministry of defense, 196 for providing zsu and 13.2 for the purchase and modernization of military equipment, but in addition ministry of defense. there are 40 billion hryvnias invested in the national guard of ukraine, which is also currently at the front, 20 billion hryvnias for the state border service, 19 billion hryvnias for the national police, which also includes assault units of the people, and in addition, 4.4 million hryvnias for production of ammunition. in addition, 16.5 billion zlotys have been laid down for housing assistance for internally displaced persons, it seems to me that these expenses cannot and should not wait for us to postpone them and recalculate something. thank you, 44th amendment tymoshenko, yulia volodymyrivna, do you insist? do not insist, insist, no, please,

yulia volodymyvna tymoshenko. dear colleagues, i want to thank the budget committee and the chairman of the budget committee for the fact that you have foreseen the order of how we will increase. expenses for the treatment of the wounded. yesterday, i also had a meeting with the minister of finance, who also supported increased funding for the treatment of the wounded. it was a completely constructive conversation and i want to thank the minister of finance for that, but we need this it is our moral duty with you to develop mechanisms and sources, and definitely increase these expenses, because there is a problem. where military personnel have political trauma, where military personnel have complex injuries that require long-term treatment, there is a lack of financial resources, and i would ask that after the adoption of these changes to the budget, that we

still be on the basis of a temporary investigative commission, thank you, please, let's move on, dmytro oleksandrovych again, five amendments for two minutes. please 45 i'll remind you how old you are 45 by 49 by 49 absolutely right rexlan andriivna, i am proud of the fact that you have listed the really important articles and really important expenses that have been included in the budget, these changes to the budget for the 23rd year, so let's put them to a vote, that is, i understand that we are approaching the logical, correct, issue, let's fund the armed forces, let's fund the weapons purchase, let's fund the national police, the national guard, all of the things that you said are really important, and even you as the chairman of the committee, you recognize that,

talking about the fact that these are emergency expenditures, i agree, let's we will vote them, everything else we will redistribute to the same important expenses, not to bep, not to the secretariat of the cabinet of ministers, not to the nsdc, or to anything else, to our army, to our defenders, to our defense security forces, right? oh, you see, you nod, so you agree with me, let's put it this way, are you ready to change the budget in favor of the army now or not? not ready. well, oleksan anriyevna, isn't this a statesman's position, isn't it possible that the people's deputy of ukraine, the chairman. the committee does not support spending on the armed forces of ukraine, on increase in spending on the armed forces of ukraine? let's ask this question in the hall, maybe the hall will support it, maybe the honorable chairman will be ready

for it. thank you. position, please committee. i support the increase in spending on the armed forces of ukraine and even submitted bills myself, one of the bills on increasing defense spending by 500 billion. we passed through the budget committee in the spring, but i think that here we need to remind all our viewers and people's deputies that when we pass a law on the state budget, we actually make an appropriation, we allow a major spender, such as the department of defense, to register a payment or many payments in the treasury for an appropriate amount, such as 196 billion. but in order to pay these payments, there must be money in a single treasury account. the ministry of defense submitted a request for financing for 7 trillion uah. there will never be enough for us. uah 7 to the treasury account

to pay these funds, so unfortunately we are working within the available resources. thank you, please continue, petro oleksandrovich from the 50th, 50th, 51st, 52nd, 53rd, 54th, that's right , two minutes, rekslanna andriivna, you and i are not spectators, we are not yet... entering comedy shows and not hosting programs, well, for now we are people's deputies, we will also see how life will turn out after the end of the term of office, but you and i are not watching the audience, the people of ukraine, who sent us to work for them, not for the ministry of finance, to which you additionally allocate funds, not for udo , please tell me what is the need now for the state

security service, there are a lot of specialists, i am from i have a lot of respect for them, they did a lot and are doing the right things, but why are we allocating additional funds for them today, fortunately, the guys are there, well, after all, it is here and maybe these funds should be redistributed to the gur, or redistributed to the armory forces of ukraine, and still more for the people who sent us here to work, i think that it would be correct, it would be reasonable and right , thank you, thank you, rekslan andriyina, i want, i agree that we are not being watched viewers, and citizens of ukraine, but still me i hope they will watch us at least in the recording of this meeting, so i think it is necessary to explain every position in this important bill, in this important budget, which

concerns the state security department, we are not increasing the number of people who work in the state security department , but we increase expenses for their material and technical support, why? i explain, many foreign delegations are coming to kyiv now, which we need in order to form world coalitions, in support of giving us f-16 aircraft, in support of the application of sanctions in support of the confiscation of assets of the russian federation that are in accounts in the european union, we need all these international partners in kyiv, but unfortunately they will not come here if we do not protect them under time of military operations. thank you, 55th, 56th, 57th, 58th, 59th, everything is correct, dmytro oleksandrovich, two minutes, please. roxelana andriivna, you contradict yourself, firstly, you do not increase

the number of people, but the delegations that need to be served, then there are enough people, no additional expenses are needed, maximum for fuel, yes, well, you will be removed from the budget committee, but this is not about what figure should be, i will tell you now how much you allocate for fuel for the management of the state security, hey, you are increasing by 230 million, not up to... you won't have too much gasoline , no one will choke, secondly, if in this budget you just take funds from anti-corruption agencies, if you continue to have this level of corruption, i don't now to you personally, i am to you as a representative of the authorities, then they will not be to you no delegations will travel, and we already receive these calls, all the time, and you

know about it, too. that is why they are already sending auditors to us, who will also have to be guarded, and you will also provide them with doctors, because they will have to maintain their health, because looking at the level of corruption that is flourishing today, their nerves may not be able to withstand , and this will directly hit our budget, because we will not receive international aid, and you will have nothing to distribute, we will simply divide zero by zero, although it is not possible. but in the budget i saw this in the committee, yes, dear colleagues, the next amendment, dmytro oleksandrovich, maybe we can change 10 to two, five to two, fine. the next 60th, 61st, 62nd, 63rd, 64th, dmytro oleksandrovich, two minutes, please , thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych, and tell me, please, the state property fund of ukraine, 43 billion, millions plus, excuse me, and tell me

please, what is the logic, but instead of the fund supporting itself by renting out, when he worked there moderately, he did not ask the supreme council to increase financing, you just changed it, you immediately need to drive something there, money, maybe while he was sitting there, no one could spray, now it will be convenient to do it, i understand that compared to the fuel for the state security department, it is children’s money there toys in your understanding of 43 million, is this money for the budget committee, but why should it be sent there, for what needs, please specify. i would like to hear your professional position as the head of the committee, because the wording is not ours, it is the ministry of finance, they will ask you, they will be asked, our military will ask everyone who works in the committee or is pretending, so

please answer why, for what needs you are allocating 43 million, also to meet delegations, no, why? for salaries, not for salaries, for what, for what, please tell me, i am listening to the position of the committee, mr. rustem umerov, when he worked as the head of the state property fund, did a very thorough job and dismissed many people from the state property fund. unfortunately, according to the current laws of ukraine, we have, or rather, the state property fund must pay them compensation to these fired individuals, so they need... these funds to pay the compensation, otherwise they will have to pay more after the court decides in favor of the victims, well in this case the victims, but we understand that

these persons are not so much affected and panurov released them for the case, but unfortunately, i would not like the state to violate the law in this matter, please, an amendment, the same format, yes dmytro ol 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, please, razumkov, rokslana andriivna, you are a little to yourself again to contradict, the mayor has laid off, you still need money , but is that possible, after the war you will be paid, and the law, well, he laid off, you can find them a job, right there, when you come to the front, you communicate with our defenders, there are so many free positions? which could be embraced and the salary is good, if it is zero, i think that it would be worthwhile to provide colleagues with such a job right away, rather than allocate 43 million for compensation, write them certificates, then distribute them, let them go to court, let them go to court , and then you will

to pay if, if the court makes such a decision, because it makes a decision in our country when the corrupt are not corrupt, then rafik will not be blamed. then, we will decide if there is such a need, but i don't think that many of them will go to court, let's transfer these funds to the armed forces, don't you think that this is a higher priority, to the national guard, even to the police, to the issue of demining territories that are of primary importance today, and this will be correct and correct, unlike what you propose in this draft law, are ready withdraw 43 million, do you still think that the people who were fired because they are inefficient, you as a representative of the state should pay them, do you think it

is correct, correct, reasonable, thank you, we are on the smart policy team, this i definitely do not support it, thank you, the next amendment, the 71st. dmytro oleksandrovich, look, well, i would like to, you are a person who understands the regulations well, that during the report of these amendments that you are talking about, there was a report on these amendments, i will not read these amendments and their essence, but they very little correlate with the problems that you raise, therefore, the committee can answer only on amendments, well, it cannot answer that, if there are five identical amendments, change the government. of ukraine to the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, change programs and measures to programs, measures and tasks, change the name of the law, well, it is difficult for them to answer those things that are not in the amendments, let's make it more logical, before you go to those amendments that are important, which you raise, where there are specific

figures and calculations, and then the chairman of the committee will give you a comprehensive answer to all these questions, because honestly, i do not know what roksolana andriivna has to answer to the amendment, which says to replace the words of this content with the words of the following content, since the following content is russianism and she is not an editor, you understand, so let's let's move on to those amendments that are really serious and start with them. the chairman of the committee will answer all your questions. thank you, roxelana andriivna, let's move on. next, dmytro oleksandro 71sha, 72, 73, 74, 75, i'm right, voiced, please, dmytro oleksandrovich, and ruslan oleksiyovych, there are no important or unimportant amendments, if the deputy considers them important enough, he has the right to talk about them, this is the first, second. and we are not talking about approaches

now, we are talking about the fact that if the chairman of the committee now agrees to increase what our team, the smart policy team, has proposed, take money from the above-mentioned government, the cabinet of ministers, the ministries, and increase spending on the armed forces and the ministry defenses on... which are proposed edits, now we will remove everything, let's move on, what questions, if such a position is agreed upon, we are ready to vote for it and not waste time, but i understand that for many colleagues you need to repeat it several times, that's why i am forced, and that's it not for you, not for rakselana andreevna, for many other colleagues, so that they hear the position, maybe their vision will change. maybe they will understand that it is necessary to vote for the army, and not for the government, which changes to the cabinet of ministers or

vice versa, i think that this will be correct and that's right, so i thank you very much for the proposal, but let's move on to the amendments, thank you, roksalan andriivna, the sacred right of the people's deputy, roksalana andriivna, please, i want to say actually about which expenses, which bodies we have reduced in this budget, we are very we don't talk about it much in the hall now, but it seems to me that it should also be highlighted. for example, we propose to reduce public debt servicing by uah 10.7 billion. we plan and propose to reduce the financing of officials working in the state fisheries agency by uah 214 million. 132 million hryvnias we propose to reduce the financing of political

parties. the ministry of youth and sports reduced its salary expenses by 44 million hryvnias. the verkhovna rada of ukraine, by the way, and i want to thank the apparatus for this, reduced its maintenance expenses by 30 million hryvnias. thank you, let's move on, dmytro oleksandrovych, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80th, that's right, please, if the authors of these amendments will not be presented by colleagues on these amendments, then we can move on, yes, we can combine them , and i will ask to put them to a vote, these are just some of the fundamental amendments i wanted i would like... after that, everyone will see the result of the vote and these are the amendments that propose to increase spending specifically on

the security and defense sector, ruslan aksich, i will talk about them and ask you to vote, that is, we can vote, but can you give you two to reset, so to reset the time, is it not in principle right away, i think it will be enough, if not, then yes, please , let's go, dear colleagues, the 76th -80th amendment, this is an amendment that provides for the redirection: 50% of the state road fund to needs of the army, 25% for the development, procurement, modernization and repair of weapons and another 25% for payment of remuneration for the financial support of servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine and other formations. why is this important? you remember the more shameful story we saw at the beginning of the year. when the minister of defense came. and said: the military asked me

to take 30 from them. then my team and i returned 30,000, then we were blocked... by the people's deputies, at the request of the president's office, this bill is still in the walls of the verkhovna rada, unfortunately, the chairman of the verkhovna rada does not issue this blocking resolution, this is the only case which was not before was, and in order to make such manipulations with our defenders impossible in the future, i have a big request, let 's redirect the road fund to our army, 50. we don't take everything, we take 50%, 25 of which will go to extra payments to our defenders, and 25 for the repair and re-equipment of weapons, the ukrainian army and the ukrainian armed forces need this very much today, so this is already a conceptual amendment that ruslan oleksiyovych asked for, and i hope that it will be

supported by the audience, supported by those who really want to help the army , wants to provide us with weapons, and not only with words tells how he saves for our victory, thank you, please, roksilana andriivna, you wanted to answer, i am ready to answer all the questions, especially since they are really important, i think that the people here the deputies who will vote now need to understand that we can write any amount in this document, in this draft law, not to write that the financing of the armed forces of ukraine will amount to another 3 trillion hryvnias by the end of the year, but that this financing really it was also military parts received some funds in their accounts, so that the ministry of defense can use this money to buy shells and so on, we need to increase revenues, revenues that are collected, that are generated domestically,

i gladly support any amendment that proposes to increase revenues within the country, dear colleagues, and so we put 76 to the vote, right? i bet 76 points, dmetro oleksandrovich, i can't tell, please , razumko, include what you, and, if possible, me at the expense of the next five, just a minute, i would like to ask a question, rokslani andriivni and then go back to the vote, if you don't mind, no , look, dmytro oleksanovy, let's somehow make it effective, you insist, we have now voted on these amendments, all five of them, that's right, i understand, one by one, include intelligent microphone, one by one, ruslan oleksiyovych, i just want her to state how much money is in the road fund, now and how much it will be 50%, just for the chairman of the committee to say so that people understand what they are voting for, not 3 trillion , not for 5

trilons, not for 10 hryvnias, please even then let's move on, thank you, dear colleagues, i will put to the vote: in turn, the five amendments that dmytro oleksandrovich just spoke about, i will put amendment 76, it was rejected by the committee, razumkov will ask to put this amendment into consideration, i ask the people's deputies to vote for 67 decision: adopted, amendment 77, authorship of razumkov and colleagues, rejected by the committee, you have heard the positions of the parties, please vote, 70th amendment, 78th amendment, the same, authorship of razumkov and

colleagues, er, you have heard the position of... both sides , the committee proposes to reject it, please vote for 74, the decision has not been taken, the 79th amendment authored by dmytro razumkov and colleagues, the same, it was rejected by the committee, you have heard the positions of the parties, please. to vote for 68, the decision was not taken, and the 80th amendment, also authored by dmytro razumkov and his colleagues, was rejected by the committee, you have heard the arguments, please