you have heard the position of both sides, the committee proposes to reject it, i ask you to vote for 74, the decision has not been taken, the 79th amendment authored by dmytro razumkov and colleagues, the same, it is a committee. you heard the parties' positions were rejected there, please vote for 68 , the decision was not made and the 80th amendment, also authored by razumkov and colleagues, was rejected by the committee, you heard the arguments, please vote. for 65, the decision

has not been taken, dmytro oleksandrovich, your 81st amendment, because savrasov's amendment follows, please, 81st, will you insist, whether dear anriivna, but you did not answer how much money is in the road fund, dear ruslan oleksiiovych asked that there be fundamental, conceptual amendments, there should be a fundamental conceptual amendment, so that the people's deputies and those who watch us, our fellow citizens, not spectators, not supervisors, yes, so that they understand what the verkhovna rada did not vote for, what amount the verkhovna rada , together with the cabinet of ministers, did not want to allocate to the armed forces of ukraine, please answer how much money

is currently in the road fund, and people we've got intelligent people will be able to calculate that we just did not want to transfer half of this amount to the armed forces of ukraine. the position of the committee on the 81st amendment, please, dmytro oleksandrovych, i specifically now asked the question to the state treasury, what are the cash expenditures for the road fund as of october 1, in order to give you the most accurate answer. insists savrrasov, does not insist. amendment 83: mykysha, insists? please, ms. raksalana, i have a question for you, this is a very interesting amendment, section seven, of the final provisions, what is written here, establish that in 2023 the attraction of grants for budget support from foreign financial institutions can be carried out on the basis of contracts concluded by the state in the person of the minister of the ministry of finance of ukraine. such

contracts may include provisions on the waiver of ukraine's sovereign immunity in possible disputes regarding the relevant obligations. please explain what kind of waiver of ukraine's sovereign immunity in possible disputes is this. thank you. and the 83rd amendment is an amendment to the mezurush. this is an amendment to the mezurash. 83 83 83 i have a major, but how can that be, excuse me, we have a technical question, essentially answering your question about the sovereign immunity of ukraine, we are talking about participation in courts in international jurisdictions, this means that our international partners, who are currently providing us with irreversible assistance, for example, the united states, and some

officially prescribe in... the conditions that we must fulfill, which the government must fulfill on behalf of ukraine, if the conditions for the use of these funds are violated, then the united states, for example, can sue us in international courts and in the courts of other countries, and not in the pechersk district court. i think that's fair. dear colleagues, let's move on, the next amendment is the 84th, 85th, i understand the sixth, seventh and eighth, dmytro oleksandrovich, you will also be there for two minutes, yes, this is yours and your colleagues, please, razumkov, rakselana andriivna, unfortunately, i listen very carefully to you and hear what you are talking about, the only problem is that you don't even, you see, have the correct table, because when it is brought to its knees, as it was at 10:38, you understand and

as it is today it was 10:037, here you are you don't listen, you even turned your back, i'm listening, i know you have your back to me, okay? you hear, but, but it would be worthwhile for you not only to hear, to understand that tables of this kind on such an important bill are not prepared in half an hour, as it was today, for example, and because, you, even you, as the chairman of the committee, you do not understand what you are presenting in the hall, and frankly, it is not even your problem, because it is physically impossible to prepare a thousand amendments. before consideration to study them, but only because it is accepted today for today on demand the office of the president, well frankly, so i'm really looking forward to the information that you talked about from the treasury, i'm very surprised that you as the chairman of the committee don't know that information, i

think that's one of the key aspects, especially since tomorrow you're proposing actually take 100%, i don’t know why, based on your words and transfer it somewhere, eh, i think it’s not worth putting off until tomorrow what can be done today, let’s transfer 50% of the state road fund to the armed forces of ukraine, i will continue then the issue of the road fund, where do you suggest i send it, and then we will talk about it, thank you, if you have something to say, i will listen with pleasure, why, please. oruksil, no, but the microphone is working, sorry, i know very well that both tomorrow and today i will propose to direct to the general fund of the state budget, and therefore to defense needs, 95 billion hryvnias, which according to the forecast would have arrived, and which

according to the forecast will enter the road, they should enter the road fund next year, i think that the defense forces need them now more than for the construction of roads, which as for expenses and cash expenses of the road fund, i also know that as of september 1, we have a balance of uah 7 billion, which can still be distributed, but since i want us to have a professional discussion, it is important for me to provide you with information as to on october 1, as soon as there is such an answer, i will provide it, thank you, the 89th amendment, tymoshenko, yulia volodymyrivna, do you insist, please, tymosh, but no, i do not insist, thank you, sorry, then the 91st amendment, i understand , second, 93, 94, 95th, dmytro oleksandrovich, please

thank you, ruslan oleksiiovych, thank you, roksila andriivna, that you still know how much the state road fund is predicted to be, because it simply surprised me, and i just want to note that by the last vote, the verkhovna rada. did not transfer, did not redistribute 47.5 billion, because we talked about half of the road fund to the defense security sector, to the armed forces, what you propose in your 1037, you propose to transfer from one pocket of corrupt history to another pocket of corrupt history , take money from of the road fund and transfer them to the budget, and then buy eggs for 17, then buy pamilino constructors, pans for shelter, paint and waste this budget ostensibly for restoration, and then we come to people, talk to them, who have rebuilt something there, and after

nothing was done about the fact, as it happened in erpin, bunche and other cities, and these scandals are unfortunately linked to the deputy of the president's office, so we do not support... taking away the road fund and directing it to such a budget, where it is again it will be possible to blur and spread in pockets, we we propose to direct these funds to the armed forces of ukraine, i.e. a little more than 42.5 billion, 43.5 billion uah for additional payments to our defenders, and the same amount for repairs... re-equipment of weapons, and you do not support it, so in this is the fundamental difference between us and you, i really hope that by the end of this law you will change your position and will take the position not only of the head of the committee, but of a citizen of ukraine, a professional

person and the people, rukslan andriivna, if you wish, you can answer, please yes, we cannot spend 44 billion in road tax fund for needs. defense, because there are none, they have already been spent on building roads. i believe that building roads during war, or repairing roads during war, if it is not backwards. of the military, frankly speaking, it is a shame, and i want deputies, people's deputies today or tomorrow to support draft law 1037, which will stop this shameful practice both at the level of the central budget and at the level of local budgets, because so much spending on roads, stadiums and non-priority expenses that have local budgets, none the body of state power at the central level did not spend so much money during the war, it is not clear why. thank you, let's move on, dear

colleagues, 97, 98, 99, hundredth, 101st. five or maybe more , dmytro oleksandrovich, still give, yes, so far five, please, five for two, course, we can only go by regression, you see, we are reducing the numbers, rokslana andriivna, i am very. very surprised and sincerely proud of you that you do not support large-scale construction during the war, unfortunately, your position is not listened to by the government and relevant representatives office of the president, unfortunately, because we can go with you, see how this big construction is going, and when and where these funds were spent, which you just said are no longer there, then i would really like to understand how much it is possible, not even 25 , to finally send everything to the armed forces of ukraine,

but i see that among the committee members there are those who do not support this program during the war, who are ready to transfer money to the army, and not to corruption stories, i'm glad you point out that you don't be afraid, don't be afraid to say publicly , i don't know what will happen to you, but i hope that nothing terrible will happen to you, that you will not be removed from the head of the committee, and you will be able to continue working in this position for a little longer, i do not know how long and how successful, but the fact remains a fact, thank you, yes dmytro oleksandrovich, then 102, 103, 104, 105, and 106, please, dmytro oleksandrovich, thank you, oleksan andriivna, you dwelled a lot on what you shortened there, there things i agree with, i'm the only one who doesn't

i understand, but tell me, please, and by what miracle did we reduce the expenditures of the ministry of agrarian policy and food of ukraine , the budget, excuse me, by 200, almost 200 million, but it is minus 200 in your table, these funds have nowhere to go... these funds, we don't need to help our farmers, our small, small medium-sized businesses that have suffered, given that after the poor policy towards poland, the meaningless empty claims of going to court, we now have problems with imports, and with transit, export, sorry, and transit. food, food products abroad.

don't you think that these funds should be kept, unlike bep, but if we compare with you, these are comparable amounts, you don't want it for the army, let's support ukrainian business, but you don't want it, you only transfer it to repressive structures such as bep, and not counting on the protection of those businesses that have been very badly affected by the i am already silent about the minefields, i am already silent about the destroyed infrastructure, i am already silent about the fact that part, technicians from these enterprises were taken to the front, mobilized, it is necessary, it is true, but perhaps it would be worthwhile to ensure that the ministry of agrarian policy, minister solsky, has the opportunity to help people, thank you, we support minister solsky in that among those in this hall, if you... remember, we created a so-called insurance fund for ships that

export grain and products of ukrainian farmers in the grain corridor, i think it was really a very big support for them. as for the reduction of expenses for the ministry of agrarian policy, this is a reduction of expenses for their sub-department, agency, central body of executive power, state. fisheries agency, they believe that they will not need these funds, in particular, because they have carried out a successful reform on the implementation of fishing permits. they have increasing revenues from this reform when they sell permits and quotas in transparent auctions, so they will use these funds, not budget funds, i think this is a fair story and thank you, please, the following amendments,

dmytro oleksandrovich, are also yours, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111 will be. please, ruksala andriivna, you did not answer why we are taking away the ministry, not transferring it to other programs to ensure business, secondly, if the minister does good and professional work, it is good, but maybe then it should not be taken away from him, because unlike the bep we talked about today, which shows absolute inefficiency, you add money to it, and the ministry, which shows its... active work, you take money from him, that is, based on your logic, state institutions, the worse they work, the more they will receive, well, in my opinion, this is a false logic, i am sure that those who are watching us today

sorry, watches on tv, but does not listen in the hall, then they will share my position, not yours, because in normal states, the better you work, the more you will receive, according to your proposals for this budget, on the contrary, the ministry of rural of the economy, which works efficiently, withdraws 200 million from it, a bep, which is not working well and last year returned 32 million to the budget, you add to it how much 260, 240, how much was there for the last one, please tell me? and don't you think that this is still a wrong approach and the proposal should be changed? yes, thank you, rukslan andriivna, do you want to answer? i always have a desire to answer all questions, once again, this is not the ministry of agrarian policy, this is the state fisheries agency, which is not a part

of the ministry of mines, which is a subordinate, what is actually in the ministry of agricultural policy, are we increasing this the budget for three months of the year, the remaining expenses for business support, definitely yes, for example, we are increasing expenses for the innovation development fund under the ministry of digital transformation, which will deal not only with agricultural business, but also with innovative business, that's in short, thank you, dear colleagues, next comes a whole block of amendments authored by the ironworker, the guy came up, said that instead of all the amendments, he is asking for 4 minutes, i understand correctly, volodymyrovych, you are there, there is no people's deputy sabol, other co-authors, amendment 112, 113,

114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120 , 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126. 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 1 38, 139, 140 , 141, 142, 143. , please. is it the 149th, please, dmytro oleksandro, ruslan oleksiyovych, you are 48, you miscalculated, i didn’t miscalculate, i wanted to offer a new course, no, six to two, you see, roksalana andriivna answered clearly, she is ready to answer all the questions, i think on the contrary, to reduce the number of amendments, so that the head of the committee has more opportunities

to give an answer on this indecent law, dear colleagues, a rhetorical question. please tell me, is space important for ukraine, is the space program important to us, is it important to us to provide this one of the key industries that were there before the war, and that are desperately needed today? i am sure that if there is someone inadequate in this hall who will say no, then there will be few such people, i hope that there will be none at all, but in based on my question, i would like to understand the logic of the specialized committee, the cabinet of ministers, the ministry of finance and everyone else. and what a miracle you are from the state. space agency of ukraine withdraw 3 million. is this extra money? don't we need such an agency, so

let's close it altogether, disperse them together with the profile committee, we won't suffer anyway. why do we take money from them? thank you. thank you please. next amendment: 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, dmytro oleksandrovich, please, reksolana andriivna, you must not have heard my the question, why are we taking away, did not feel, yes, i did not hear the answer, i think that maybe now we will hear why we are one of the strategic industries that at one time... we could not protect save now during the war, when our neptunes,

our other missile systems bring a lot of problems to the enemy, we will reduce the funding of this direction, what is the logic, what is common sense, what is the state’s lack of a statesmanlike approach in this aspect, i hope that this time you will still turn on the microphone and have . will be crazy the opportunity to answer this difficult question, because i can see with my own eyes that it is difficult for you to answer such a wrong position of the government, and to understand why we are cutting spending, cutting funding for such important programs, rokslana andriivna, this is one of your simplest questions, i have a letter from the state space agency, which says that they have saved 3 million hryvnias and are ready to give up

this part of the funding in order to redistribute it, for example, to help internally displaced persons. thank you dear colleagues, the next, 154th, 155, 156, 157 and 158th amendment, dmytro oleksandrovych, please. thank you, you see, we still found 3 million, these are not grant funds, but not external loans , rosslan andriivna, these are loans, of course, external loans, external, well, then it is accepted here, this is the first, probably such a deep answer, i thank you very much for the fact that you were able to explain the logic, i do not understand the logic , the truth of this agency, but nevertheless, well , let's see how they are, they will continue to work, the main thing is that they then come to you after two weeks, they did not send a new letter with a request to allocate these funds, and please tell me, then, let’s move forward on this, i

have a very strange question for you now, please tell me, why do you take so little from the council of the national defense security, you just decided to take from this strange structure, now i will find where it is? ruksana andriivna, how much do you take from her, will you tell me? oh, i see, almost 7 million hryvnias, 6.9, yes, there are already some tourists there, we found that out yesterday from the speech, the secretary, and let's take everything, well, it's a good proposal, logical, i think that the deputies will support it after yesterday's proposal. why, you won't object, what about, about such an initiative, or you will also say that they have

to leave something, after they mock the ukrainian people, because when they talk about who has the right to represent the state, then i wanted would like to remind everyone that the right to represent the state belongs to the citizens of this state and those who fled from the war. and many others, dear colleagues, let's move on, the 159th, 160th, 161st, 162nd, 163rd amendment, dmytro oleksandrovich, please, continuing the story with the nsdc, please tell me if this is true, here i agree with the chairman of the verkhovna rada, it does not quite apply to the law, but i... i would like to understand the position, since we allocate funds to the council of the national defense security, so it turned out, do you think

it is necessary to fin. a structure that does not respect citizens of ukraine, citizens of ukraine who went abroad during the full-scale invasion, which rukslana andriivna, you and you, you have a direct path to the national security council, colleagues even say that they will offend, yes, i apologize, i agree, you definitely did not deserve this, otherwise i would like to return. our athletes who represent our country, our diplomats, our military who travel and study abroad in order to win this war faster. our journalists, our doctors, and even last of all the people's deputies, but still those who stand up on the international stage, including you, on the international stage. the interests

of our state, if you agree with it, i i think that it would be worthwhile to reduce the funding of this structure as necessary , because based on their logic, they do not represent themselves, and if they do not represent anything, then probably the money should not be spent, thank you, the following amendments: 164, 165, 166 , 167, 16 osma, dmytro oleksandrovych, please, dear colleagues, please tell me, please, we have big problems with corruption here, and at the expense of what we decided to reduce the costs of the anti-higher anti-corruption court by more than uah 1 million . we additionally earlier, and here ran a lot and profile committee, talking about the need to allocate additional resources for this

institution. we should strengthen, taking into account the level of corruption that exists today, we should additionally allocate money to them, because they will have work both now and after the victory, well , they will work around the clock, in three shifts, why are we taking away one of them . to the state, for example, we will continue to make these amendments, our team and the smart policy team submitted amendments to increase the funding of nabu and sap, because they must be given the ability to catch our corrupt people in the highest echelons of power, unfortunately there are enough of them, you

know it well, and on the contrary, we should allocate additional resources for them, and you take money from them, thank you, the position of the committee, please, i just want to draw attention to the fact that the salary in the court of the higher anti-corruption court is uah 105, which is twice as much as in people's deputy, any people's deputy. i'm sorry, where else do they have to increase the expenditure on their salaries? dear colleagues, let's move on, the next amendment, 169, 170, 171, 172, please, razumkov, 183, i apologize , colleagues are sitting and prompting, a people's deputy does not even have 50, we envy you if you have 50.