[000:00:00;00] more funds than there was before, so this amendment is precisely the closing of the hole that will be in higher institutions with a special form of education , thank you, yes, amendment 326, rejected by the committee, i put it to a vote, i ask you to vote, it is bonder's authorship and velichkovich, amendment 326, please vote. no decision was made for 31. the next amendment is 200, 327. aryov or giras aryov, please , dear colleagues, if we are talking about the military budget, then let's really make the expenditures that are needed for defense, but let's not hide inside the salary increase for

officials because what we're doing today is actually, well, literally a couple of months and we're not going to have anything to pay our salaries at all, and you know, great, why, you know the situation in the united states of america, as one of our , today we will call the main donors by their names, and you know that we are required to carry out reforms, we sit in the verkhovna rada four days a month, let's return to the normal work schedule of the verkhovna rada and deal with reforms, because what we share, soon may turn out to be the skin of an unkilled bear, because there will simply be nothing to share, nothing to give out, thank you, you can not vote, the next amendment, 328 honcharenko, oleksii honcharenko, friends, well, i want to tell you that we have to help

our military and young officers. who will soon become such a military man, the representatives of the government told us that the verkhovna rada, you see, is considering something for a long time, other issues, i have a question for our government, it's a pity that i can't see the prime minister now, how come it turned out that our law, which 30 entered into force in june, was signed by the president, entered into force, until now, in terms of payments to cadets of higher military educational institutions, it has not been implemented, and the numbers there, frankly, are pitiful. today they have a stipend of 600 hryvnias, some have 500, and we will give two 350 hryvnias, well, not a lot of money either, but we cannot start paying even that for the fourth month, due to enormous efforts, the national guard, dpsu, the police, the state emergency service, too is waiting, it is impossible, add money to cadets, young officers, put it to the vote, 328 amendment of hancharenko

rejected by the committee. vote for 37 decision not adopted next amendment 329 zheliznyak khlapuk zabal the same 330 331 332 gerasimov artur volodymyrovych please. dear rosslan oleksiiovych, i will continue my opinion, it is absolutely impossible to vote for this bill, i emphasize once again, not only that, under the guise of military expenses, which are really needed, officials receive additional money, often, let's be frank, incomprehensible , to

be honest, besides this money, the key source of spending is almost 207 billion. and this is still hidden, i repeat, it is from the pdf , that is, to everyone who is sitting in this hall as a servant of the people, if you are told that the pdf does not touch this bill, it is a lie, because it touches directly, more precisely, this draft law affects the pdf directly, due to the fact that local budgets will be due to this draft, not the next one, the 37th, without money, if someone, especially the majority , wants it, vote, thank you, thank you, we can not put arturovych, put , we go further, then, 333, 300, put 330, then 332 amendment authored by gerasimov pavlenko and honcharenko, it was rejected by the committee, please

vote. no decision was made for 32. next, 333, 334, 335, 336, 337. dmytro oleksandrovich, please, thank you, sergey mykhailovych, he was able to finally answer the question, it is unclear again why 37 million for the ministry of finance, but we will not torture the ministry anymore, roksana andriivna, you recalled the budget vote, well , unfortunately, you voted for the budget, and we told you, our smart policy team , that there was a gap, because now we we must correct the mistakes that were created, including by you, not as the head of the budget committee, but only as a people's deputy who voted for it, and this once again confirms that

such important draft laws must be approached comprehensively, it is impossible that these big tables of 1,000 edits appeared at the last minute, otherwise we wouldn't be able to study them, and then you'd come back to say: and going back to your proposal about the prime minister, you know, strangely enough, unlike many colleagues, you you know what you're talking about, it's, it's, it's really surprising in a good way, so we definitely you. support as prime minister, and i don't think it will add much to you, but i think that those who remained in the hall and really work will be ready to vote, first i suggest that you immediately take signatures for the resignation

of the current prime minister era, we will sign and there will be a great chance for you to take his position , i think the proposal is a good one, i see that you support it, so let's move on, and i hope that this issue will not be delayed, it will appear in the walls of the verkhovna rada very quickly, so vaxelana andriivna, what can you say about amendments nos. 332 , 333, 334, 335, 336, 337, please, they have been rejected by the committee, i suggest leaving them rejected, but regarding denys anatolyovych shmagal , i believe that he is a very good prime minister and very well: he copes with his duties, and i may take over this role later. next, amendment 338 , fedina, sofiya romanivna, no, friz, iryna,

please, thank you, mr. chairman, amendment 338, it concerns that we increase funding of the state border service, you know, we all know how to sing in public very well... cheers to our border guards , at the moment, when we come to the adoption of the budget, or changes to the budget for the current year, we constantly forget about them, because they either did not finish , or did not lobby, or did not have time, or did not manage to prove their position with arguments, we propose to increase the fulfillment of tasks, functions, and training of dpsu personnel by uah 24,800 million. 338 amendment of the authorship of the fediny frieze

was rejected by the committee at the request of a vote. for 36 decisions, amendment 339 was not adopted, people's deputy bonddar, velichkovich, please, dear colleagues, when we talk about the defense forces fighting at the front, we definitely mention the border guards and this, this category of military, which was the first to meet the enemy on the 24th and in the spring of '14, the first to meet the enemy, and so it is very important that we train quality personnel, that we give sufficient funding to train new officers, those who will continue to stand on the border, those who now, are fighting and i think that it would be fair for us to add 25 million for their training, these are the only academies in ukraine, please support, dear colleagues,

amendment 339 to 339, rejected by the committee, please vote. no decision was made for 32 cases. the next amendment is 340. arev, please. please. we speak. about the fact that we need to increase, by almost uah 200 million, the expenses for state security management, that is, to protect all of us, deputies, government officials, the president, and it was more expensive, but at the same time we did not find an opportunity to increase expenses, in particular for border guards, some of them, they guard very dangerous areas, i suggest that we could add 25 hryvnias to the state

border service of ukraine, and once again i will emphasize: let's not divide money in the budget, let's make reforms for to maintain our sources of income at all, because in the next few months we may find ourselves without those altogether without the help we so desperately need today. thank you. the position of the committee, volodymyr ihorovych, is that we are increasing expenditures on the state border service for 20 billion 400 million uah. this is hundreds of times more than the needs of state security. thank you, is it necessary to vote? there is none. let's go further. next amendment 341. honcherenko, oleksiy oleksiyovych, please. dear mr. chairman, there are two amendments, i ask for two minutes.

one vote, it will be easier, please give me two minutes, thank you, friends, here we are definitely talking about border guards, because we see the approaches of the government, the economic security bureau, to add money, i understand that bep should lead us to victory, which he really is we are led, we know, we see corruption, we see extortion from our entrepreneurs , we see a complete lack of economic policy, when we do not understand, and what is the main priority, and the main priority should be the workplace, and if these workers places we protected, then yes, we would also have economic results, instead we create an endless number of bodies that are engaged in extortion, just destroy business, and let's stop at that, and instead give money to those who really really

needs them, i definitely want to remind you all about our decision with you. on april 10, the parliament of ukraine voted for a law in which it returned 30k 30,000 uah of combat pay to all military personnel, all policemen, and all rescuers, and that six months have passed, friends, six months and during for the past six months, this law, it is already blocked, has not been signed by the speaker, you, mr. ruslan, why don't you put mr. tsabel's resolution to the vote for six months? what kind of mechanism did they invent to hide the laws, they just introduced it and didn't consider never now. well, this is wrong. this is a violation of the regulations, and it is a violation of common sense, and it is a mockery of people who are waiting for our decision. to make a resolution of the tsabel is shameful, we fail it, you sign it, send it to the president for his signature. the commander-in-chief cannot go against

the military, he signs, that's all, they have solved a colossal issue, and the money for it is to take away all kinds of babies. oleksiy oleksiyovych, you know, i think that somewhere, i don't know when your birthday is, i will give you such a beautiful book, which is called the regulation, so that you can read it again, and i emphasize once again to everyone, the chairman of the verkhovna rada, neither his first deputy, nor his deputy, do not put the issue on the agenda, this is the exclusive competence of the conciliation council. any matter that is brought up, it is brought up by the conciliation council, it is so simple to understand how the verkhovna rada works. let's move on, and one more vote, 341, 341, i put 341 amendment of people's deputy honcharenko, it was rejected by the committee, please vote.

for 29, the decision was not made, from the procedure, any please, iryna volodymyrivna, from the procedure, thank you, dear colleagues, we see that there are already less than 30 deputies left in the hall, probably , most of those who remain are representatives of european solidarity, we want to support the candidate here, yes, we understand that, the next wiretapping on... national guard, this is our amendment 346. 347, 348, 349, 350, dmytro oleksandrovich , please, two minutes, ruslan oleksiyovych, i, in order to establish relations with the future premier, er, immediately i suggest

to switch, premiere, sorry, sorry, rekslana andriivna, excuse me, go to 376 and they will have to be put to a vote. and please include two minutes first, if possible, one second, dmytro oleksanovy, because the other authors are coming next, you have not spoken about them yet, yes, if possible, then let me speak, and then i will return to my colleagues who are going before , i think that they will not be offended, colleagues, since i, we, we, we will get lost, dmytro oleksanovy, well, then, then we will follow my edits, well, and dear colleagues, regarding the regulations, ruslan ksich, you just mentioned, it is urgent there it is brought to the hall immediately after it is prepared by the committee, it is not even affected by the conciliation, as well as personnel issues that are brought to the hall, they are not approved by the conciliation, you know this well, i am sure, you know the regulations well, so

unfortunately, my colleagues are right and this resolution should have been brought to the floor, but with regard to this draft law, well, again, i do not fully understand why... the ministry, the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, we finance additionally, all other structures, such as the apparatus of the supreme we are removing the council from them, i am not against it, i am for it, but just a question, what is the logic and what are the fair approaches, we either remove all of them, and this is correct and redistribute to the armed forces of ukraine, because such a selective approach gives rise to fears that something is not clean there, and the funds are planned to be directed again to 17 eggs. thank you. the next 351 amendments. fedina, friz, who will be? freeze, please. yes, thank you, mr. chairman, well , in fact, we submitted corrections together with sofya fedina, unfortunately, she is not present in

the hall now, due to the fact that she is forced to protect our scout, hero, roman chervinskyi in courts however, i return it. to the amendment, i would like to emphasize that the name of the bill speaks for itself, it is about the state budget for solving priority issues and financial support for the security and defense sector, therefore , for financial support for the security and defense sector, we offer 50 million , redirect to the national guard of ukraine and increase the consumption expenditure of the general fund for this, thank you, we vote, yes? i

am putting the 351 authorship amendment to the vote fediny frieze, it was rejected by the committee, please vote for 351 decisions, not for god's sake, 27 decisions were not made bonddar, but from the procedure, artur volodymyrovych, from the procedure, please, dear ruslan oleksiyovych, look, today, as far as i remember, the conciliation council did not vote for us to work for more than four hours today, it was discussed, but not voted, the conciliation board did not make such a decision, that is why from the point of view and security, from the point of view and any other, i do not even mention gzot, yes now, which does not concern the people. deputies, well, as we know, that's why it's a big request, let's end this story now , because i want to say that the monomajority is almost not present in the hall and to announce a break, thank you very much, thank you, thank you, artur volodymyrovych, i was also talking about the procedures

andriy viktorovych, did it seem to me, andriy viktorovych, motovylovych, please look, we want to make a statement from the servants of the people faction that other factions are now tying the head of the committee, there the budget calls her the prime minister, but this is mockery , please unmute the microphone immediately because please, professional work, these are amendment speeches, but now it's called mocking the head of a committee who is doing his job professionally, thank you, thank you, dear colleagues, i would still ask yes, dear colleagues, i would ask yes, let's follow the rules and ethics, please . please, iryna volodymyvna, you are out of the procedure, let's out of the procedure, thank you, it is very strange when a woman applies for the position of prime minister. it is called shackles, we believe that on the contrary it is a normal story in a european country. mr. ruslan, to us it's a shame that you show double standards, don't turn off the microphone from

the procedure to colleagues, by a moment's majority, and do it to women, representatives of european solidarity. we just want to show solidarity with ms. raksalana, who has been presenting amendments to the draft budget for the fourth hour from the rostrum, very professionally, by the way, unlike many of our fellow servants who cannot comment on them, we do not agree with the position. . ms. roxelano, but we determine that she is answering the question, and we propose a 15-minute break in order for iroksola and the deputies who are present and working here to be able to simply spend this break, please, this is the request of our fraction, to announce a break for 15 minutes, and in fact, the verkhovna rada of ukraine always, when it worked in a normal mode, had such a break after four hours of work, in order to be able, unfortunately, from here... 24.02 we are not working in normal mode, iryna volodymyrna, in case anyone has forgotten. arsalana

andriivna, do you need to take a break from this, please no, thank you, let's go 352 amendment, please, vyvelichkovych, as far as i understand, yes please, dear colleagues, dear colleagues, we submitted this amendment together with mykhailo bonddor, who is a veteran of the national guard, who is currently in court, according to armann cherovyvinsky, and this amendment concerns precisely the issue of national funding for the training of personnel for the national guard, i would like to once again clearly draw attention to the fact that if the budget of 24 23 and the 24th budget of the 23rd 24 years are war budgets, then it is necessary that we support the training of personnel for ours units, i would like to remind you that several new brigades of the national guard need good officers, so please support the allocation of 50.5 million additional to fund the training of personnel of the national

guard, thank you. amendment 352 by bondar and velichkovich, rejected by the committee, please vote. for 32 decisions, the following 350 third amendment was not adopted. arev, please, in principle it would be possible not to do such a thing now, if the government really submitted a normal draft law that would take into account exactly the interests of national security and defense without sewing there unnecessary expenses for lowering the salaries of officials, for increasing expenses for the economic security bureau, the coefficient of effectiveness of which is close to zero, if not

negative, which is simply completely and completely immersed in corruption schemes, in including those who are already going to the army, and these things are already being considered by the temporary investigative commission of the verkhovna rada, so i suggest in this case, i suggest in this case that we still proceed to real reforms, which we have the list in order to build a normal democratic country, otherwise we will all lose. amendment 353 of arev was rejected by the committee, please vote. for 29, no decision was made. next amendment 354 honcharenko, please. thank you, there are two

amendments, 354-55, i ask for two minutes and then one vote immediately. so, we are talking about, we are talking about the national guard, about adding funds, i will explain to you why they are, of course, necessary, here, because the national guard is fighting, unlike the babies, from. drums, from serials, on what kind of money does the state find, well, but here it’s about another topic altogether, we have a very serious issue, it’s a question of demobilization, it’s a question of justice, because friends, well, it happened in our country that there are people who are at the front, and there are people , who don't see him and don't even want to hear about him, and today we don't even give people a chance. at the end of the tunnel, that is, they, those who were mobilized, those who voluntarily went to save the homeland one and a half years ago, yes, we say, these are

our heroes, people made of metal, metal. is getting tired, many of these people are tired, and we have to consider the issue, give the right after a certain period of service to these people to return. and my bill on demobilization after 18 months of service has been in the verkhovna rada for more than six months. okay, maybe in the discussion, let's not give 18, let's give 24 months of service, but let's do something already, because it can't be like that. that there is an entrance, there is no exit, because it cannot be that the exit from the defense forces is only 200 or 300 , well, it is not fair, it is not fair, we are losing these people, and how they are fighting, and how hard it is for them and their families today , those who are ready continue to fight, honor, praise, respect, thanks, but those who are tired, let's save them and give them a shoulder, as once a year and a half

ago they gave a shoulder to the state, let's help them survive even today, so that in the future and in 5-10 years, they saved the homeland if necessary, we have to deal with the issue of where 354 goncharenko's amendment was rejected by the committee, please vote for two. the following amendments from 356 to 300 61 are not taken the next amendment, well, anikludo has already reported on his amendments, then 363, this is razumkov's amendment, then 363 364 365 366 367 dmytro

oleksandrovich, please, dear colleagues. at 3:45 p.m. the russians fired a rocket at kupyansk , at a grocery store, killing at least 48 people, one of them a six-year-old child, and first of all, i am asking everyone now. a moment of silence to remember the dead, and secondly, i ask everyone to think about whom we

allocate 91 million for maintenance. please read, 368 amendment frieze, please. turn on the microphone, please, narodna deputy frize, please turn on her microphone, please, thank you, mr. chairman, amendment 368, it refers to redirecting this year to the budget program 17020, which concerns the provision of the activities

of national police institutions and institutions and increasing it... their consumption expenditures from the general fund by 24 million. i would like a few words of argumentation, because in fact you and i should all be very clearly aware of the great burden that falls on the national floor, especially in the de-occupied territories, so i am sure that additional funding the national police this year will also need more than the 200 million funding of the medical department of the cabinet of ministers. thank you. please, please. i just want to first of all point out that we allocate 19 billion hryvnias to the national police. and secondly, i ask the chairman to allow yury mykhailovych kuzbet to replace me on