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and we will definitely continue the conversation about the israeli-palestinian war on the territory of israel, but first and more importantly , to know what is being done here and we have an exclusive guest, well, i know him as a historian, a person who was the director of the national memorial museum of the victims of the occupation regime tyrman lonskyi, i don’t know if there was or is, we will find out now, from a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, this 15th separate brigade. intelligence, ruslan zabiliy is in touch with us. mr. ruslan, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. yes, are you still the director of the museum, or are you fighting someone else? while i am at war, i remain a director, because the position is preserved. war is a very good news, because we need such, just such people, in historical events, memory. without memory, but we know that you

now have much different problems, you, somewhere in zaporizhzhia, with your own eyes, how do you assess the situation now on this front line, how is it, tell me, well, somewhere over there in zaporozhye, it is not where the main events are taking place, although in the area where i am, it is also important, but it must be said that the armed forces are doing their job, for sure, but - well, take your time, it's difficult, difficult, but the main thing for us is to protect people, and of course, the methods used by the armed forces of russia, ukrainians do not

work, ukrainians are professional soldiers, ukrainians feel sorry for people , everything is happening. as it should be, territories are vacated, but it is not such a quick matter as some would like there, whether it was wanted or, as it were, expected, in principle, it is clear, mr. ruslan, but please tell me, you know, in our country, it is used that this is ours , in fact, not the second russian-ukrainian war, but a national war , you as a researcher of the ukrainian liberation movement, this is a continuation... of the national liberation warriors against muscovy, or do we still have to, and you as a historian, will consider this war somehow differently? i would say that this is the next stage of the war, the defense by ukrainians of their

right to exist as a people, a nation, their statehood, due to the aggression of the neighbor, which we have. federations, the russian federation, with its imperial ambitions, cannot exist without ukraine. the next stage of this struggle is modern war. i really want it, and this is a chance for ukrainians once and for all, in this age-old, let's say, centuries-old war. opposition, put an end to it, and we will definitely do it, mr. ruslan, you are not only a historian, not only a warrior, not only a historian, a researcher, oun, upa, crimes, nkkdistiv, you are also an author, and actually, how is this

work of yours , your creative work, research is combined with what you are doing today in the war, on the front, that is... do you manage to write at all, do you have time for it and is your heart for it now? i must say that we talk a lot with our comrades on historical topics, in particular, regarding the history of the ukrainian insurgent army, and there is interest in the troops in the specifics and combat operations of the insurgent army, because there is much to borrow from their experience, unfortunately, something write, publish something and so on, this is something for which there is not enough time at the moment, and something that happened for a certain period

to add, but one way or another, i want to say that there is an interest in history, in military history, in the history of the ukrainian army, among military personnel, and it is increasingly necessary to publish new books, make new programs, because this is also one of the elements, which allows you to work more, work better, including at the front. mr. ruslan, look, soon there will be viya carpathians. on which authors, military personnel, including the word in war, will be presented separately , there will be a platform, and that’s just fun brings us back to this moment, is it necessary to write during hostilities, the war is not over yet, is it necessary, is it necessary to read and

write, or do we have to wait, as they say, for the end and already, as a researcher, you know, already from to analyze, draw conclusions and write from a different angle? i think it's necessary to write, it's necessary to record , uh, i want to point out that this war is the most, probably of all wars will be and is the most documented, because even those who do not observe are not on the front lines or in the combat zone actions, actually observes what is happening at the front online, because there are a lot of opportunities, and this is the work of journalists, this is the work of the fighters themselves, and uh, this, modern modern technical means, gives the opportunity to actually observe the battlefield, uh, and there is

one more important point, because you are somewhere and in those places where you also happened to be at different ones, there and makhnofest, and others in zaporizhzhia, and there are very different attitudes of the population, how do you, as a historian , see a cure without, i understand that our defenders i also want to learn more about the upa, about other things, how to convey my message to the locals the story, i know how... stereotyped thinking was there, and only after the third drink, as they say, memories of makhno's army opened up, and they already began to tell the true story in the field, and so on a daily basis it is a repetition of some soviet myths and white birds from tv, how to convey this to the locals? what is very good is the fact that, unfortunately, because of these tragic events, but... many locals are finally opening their eyes, and somewhere this

screen of love for everything soviet is falling, it is happening so slowly, but let's say, in particular, i was interested in talking with people, uh, unfortunately , there are not many of them, among the locals who are now interested in history, who tell the military that they... were from families of repressed people , that that they mention the holodomor, of course, in those settlements where makhno fought at one time, they also mention it, some local interesting people talk about it, and this is important, these are the people on whom the military relies, with whom, interact, who are trusted, and accordingly, people trust the armed forces,

these are often ukrainian-speaking citizens, or those who not so long ago completely switched to the ukrainian language, they are ukrainians in spirit, who remembered, made the right decision, remembered who they are, what land they live on, and this is very important, mr. ruslan , your last book, about the ufa people in upa, the history of the invincibles, and will there be, er, something like the modern history of the invincibles, yes, in the second circle, i don’t know, the invincibles of the 15th separate brigade, artillery reconnaissance, will there be, are you gathering now stories as material for a new book, which can be done in fact such a document, after today's war. of course, a lot will be written, it is obvious that what is being written, my brothers, many of my

brothers, keep some private records, make diary entries, and after the end of the war, there will be a lot of memorial literature, including research , i believe that due to the circumstances that have developed, uh, there are many of my colleagues, professional historians at the front who are fighting, and it is important for a historian, from a professional point of view, to be, not only a participant in these events, but it gives opportunity to better understand the past and understand the present, what is happening, and all these observations will one way or another result, i think, not only in new books, but it will also be documentaries and exhibitions, that's for sure, thank you, mr.

ruslan, and for participating in the broadcast , for service, and for literature, for everything, for everything you do, ruslan zabiliy, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine from the 15th separate artillery intelligence brigade and director of the churman lonskyi national memorial museum of the victims of occupation regimes, well , how we promised, we want to return to eyelashes no, because it began to be measured by the israeli-palestinian war, namely the war, right away, in the very first hours, according to the law , the government of israel was recognized, that is , there was no search for various curse words, and what we observed in we were in the 14th year, yes , when we started playing, it was a conflict, occupation, and, aggressor, col, that, we had, you all remember, separatists, don't you... such very imprecise vague words, if only to say that this, and now one more interesting

point about which, well, i wanted to be talked about more, i mean that in in the country of aggressors in russia, it’s normal there, they call the taliban, they are terrorists, but they accept the taliban from the st. petersburg economic forum and to the kremlin, absolutely, all those historical organizations that have been from the time of the kgb and gur, the ussr, in fact , look the same were happening, they once said that if the kgb and fsb were taken away, half of the terrorist organizations would simply disappear. because the money that moscow gives will run out, and here it is difficult not to mention comrade lavov, and this hamasivsky visits to moscow, after which, from the 22nd year , instructors, for example, pmc wagner, who did putin finance the regime, or the pmcs, they went to hamas, including hezbollah , they help, instruct and prepare, and

the result is what is happening in front of our eyes now, and actually now we continue. just as promised anna zharova, public figure , co-founder of the israeli friends of ukraine ngo, is already in touch with us, mrs. anna, we congratulate you, good morning, if i may say so, even, yes, i wanted to ask you right away, we see enough serious intensive strikes on the gas sector, now everything is different, it was said no mercy, we will eliminate the problem of hamas altogether, for a decade , these were statements from both sahal and the leadership of the state of israel, it will be possible to destroy hamas as a phenomenon this time. if israel does not manage to destroy hamas as a phenomenon, then there will be no israel, and this is what the media, and public figures, and various, let's say,

expert people say, yes, it is necessary to understand that this animal... yes hamas we created almost with our own hands, what does this mean, in israel, 10 years ago it was taken, such a not unspoken decision, to support hamas and its, let's say yes, to strengthen, yes, and to weaken, the palestinian authority, so that there is not a two-state solution, and we won't get into that now, why is that, that, another, i think other experts can talk about that, it is possible that historians will later say about a strategic mistake when you supported hamas in the elections, when you played in the opposition between the gaza sector and the left bank, many of our experts have already explained this well, unpacking the difficult history of modern israel, but you are inside, as in this conflict, yes and analysis

of this conflict, and the main question is how it happened, when in fact. mosaat always outplayed even at the time o6 and the cia, and here is such a massive attack from the air, from the sea, on the ground, and did israel find an answer now at this stage, how did it happen that they slept through all this, unfortunately, there are no answers now, and there is only one, only one answer , that let's win, and then we will ask questions , and now we are talking about creating... well , a government, an emergency government, yes, gathering everyone and even connecting the leaders of the opposition, because in among the leaders of the opposition there is also the former ramatkai, he is the commander-in-chief, and it is necessary to understand that indeed the effects of surprise, as

in the doomsday, well, the doomsday war, he was 150% won, of course, and now the foreign media confirm this, that hamas we ourselves would say yes to such a thing, he would not have gone to the bank, this must be understood, such a number of wounded, killed, well, no, not just one war in israel, but there were more than seven of them there, yes, there were not such numbers, among civilian population, and therefore, let's say, the main thing the question of where were the military, when it started, the country is in chaos, sorry, please , we have to say goodbye, urgently, there is actually a speech by president zelsky and we have to broadcast it, anna zharova, a public figure and co-founder of the ngo israeli friends of ukraine was with us, and right now on espresso we are watching and listening to the plenary

meeting of the nato parliamentary assembly with the participation of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi. will help ukraine on its way. to a full member of nato. thank you, mr. president, please have the floor, i congratulate you, mr. chairman , mr. prime minister, mete, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, we live today in such times when evil reigns, when evil wants to defeat our desire. our desire for peace, we see that this threat is increasing even more, the whole world is suffering more and more from terrorism in different... parts of the world, the situation is destabilized in many countries, we see what suffering, what loss, people are feeling now ourselves in such

a position, when there is a need for another wave of migration, and we are sure that it is increasingly difficult, it will be more difficult to maintain an international order based on the rule of law, we understand that it can: help ensure peace and support international law, we see who wants to shake their own international law, who wants to carry blood and disasters, we see who wants to destroy their own the lives of different peoples, again, from belarus to mali, we have seen, we have witnessed, and therefore we must act, we must act unanimously, unitedly, today our attention is fixed on the middle east, no one will be able to forget that terrorists

did in israel, it was thousands of rockets against the civilian population, they shoot people in cars who want to escape, they shoot women, children, we saw it , we see blood flowing in the streets, we see that terrorists, they themselves film the atrocities they are proud of, they beat women, they kidnap elderly people from their homes, they kidnap children, and we still don't know to the end how many people were captured, how many people were killed, they even tried to humiliate.. . humiliate, make fun of bodies of the dead, that is, we saw all this in israel, and we know that the israelis, their

journalists who were here in europe, here in ukraine, in the butch, now they also see the evil, the evil that russia carried, they see it is on the territory of its state, the difference is that now israel has been attacked by terrorists. and ukraine was attacked by a terrorist state. the intentions are different, but the essence of these evils is the same. we see blood in the streets. we saw civilian cars being shot at, we saw the bodies of people who were tortured. i'm sure, what is the first it is very important who supported russian propaganda, they again

called the children who were stolen, who are kept in the gas sector, russia, russian propagandists call these children trophies, secondly, they also support, russia supports that. iran also supports, supports, other countries support, they say that iran is sending shaheds to russia, but says that it is not involved in what is happening in ukraine, iran is now supporting what is happening in israel, ladies and gentlemen, how far can enter it evil, it can go so far. as much as we will let him, so we must now make sure that our desire for peace exceeds their

desire for blood, such efforts will help restore international order, sometimes terrorist leaders say what are the rules, what is the international order based on, if they don't understand it, yes they don't understand them, but the rules. very very simple: don't rape women, don't kill innocents, don't treat children as trophies, don't fill cities and villages with blood, don't shoot, don't shell cars with civilians, don't hit cities with missiles and drones, and one more rule that under any conditions, we have to, we have to hold everyone accountable. organizers and all terrorists, here are the rules, here is what power will help

bring peace to this. world, we have, for the sake of international peace, we must be more active, we must not go into the shadows in the international arena, we must not isolate ourselves, now is not the time to do this, we cannot now be silent or pretend that such terrorism in another continent does not affect global affairs, no, we have to make the peace plan to be proactive, to be active, europe should be active, china, india, arab countries, they must feel that it can collapse if it is not possible to achieve world goals, japan, turkey, african countries, australia, central asian countries, korea, pakistan, indonesia.

the caribbean islands, the countries of the pacific ocean region, all must now take an active position in the protection of international law, we cannot give evil a chance. ukraine incredibly grateful to everyone who supported us, supported our defense, regarding this, against this terror. thank you to every leader, every people who are with us, thank you to those who helped to close ours. heaven, thank you for the pppo systems, it is very important, especially now before the onset of winter, because russia will do everything to make this winter terrible for us, thank you to those who supported the implementation of our peace formula, thank you for your cooperation, because all efforts lead to the fact that the un charter remains effective in the protection of ukraine, and therefore, now all of europe is directing its efforts

to fight aggression. we are sure that everything will work, will work on a global scale. if we, again, put such global sanctions on those who sponsor terrorism, then they will lose, if we are united, then they will never wake up, they will not rape women, they will not kidnap children, there will not be the atrocities that are happening now are happening, because we understand that if we give the necessary weapons to protect our people, then we will be able to make democracy prospered, for the world to live in peace, this is our common goal, ladies and gentlemen, now, i am turning to you, i am calling you to be even more active so that we can strengthen our global unity, so that we can

to suppress this terror and for... and for us to help all those who now need this support in order to defend themselves, we must now promise our children that we are now building such a future for them, that they may live and not saw, did not see a world drowning in blood, but a world in which it flourishes democracy, thank you for your attention, thank you for your support, glory to ukraine. news on the air espresso, i'm khrystyna parubiy, i'll talk about the most current at the moment. five people are considered missing

after the strike. russians in the village of groza in kharkiv oblast. volodymyr tymoshko, the head of the main department of the national police of the region, informed about this. according to him , 49 bodies have been identified so far. let me remind you that on october 5, russian terrorists hit the village with an iskander. the rocket hit a cafe and a shop. in the institution at that time, the vigils for fallen soldier the attack became the most massive in terms of the number of dead in the kharkiv region since the beginning of the full-scale war. into the air forces assume that the russians struck the village of groza from the voronezh region, from the beginning of the air alert to the strike, it was only 10 minutes. daughter under attack. the day before , russian terrorists attacked kostyantynivka in donetsk region. in the morning, they visited private houses. four people were injured.