second, they did not warn about this , well, this is the minimum that can definitely be considered guaranteed, but if it turns out that they also participated in the preparation, well, that would be just great for us. thank you, mr. yevhen, for the conversation, it was yevhen dyky, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, former commander of the aidar battalion platoon. friends, we are live on the channel and also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please like this video. so that it advances in youtube trends and will take part in our vote, today we are asking you about how the situation in the middle east and the war with israel will affect the situation in ukraine, whether it will affect the situation in ukraine, yes, no, and traditionally, your comments on this issue, then we have valentin nalyvai in touch. people's deputy of ukraine, former

head of the security service of ukraine. mr. valentin, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. mr. valentine, an attack by militants hamas against israel came as a surprise to the israelis, and judging by the events that developed in the first two days, they certainly did not expect this attack. why in your opinion, these glorified israeli eyes. the services missed both the preparation and the very moment of the attack by hamas on israel, or did they miss the israeli government and in israel itself , experts and parliamentarians are now expressing their opinions in order to create a commission to really find out whether there was information, if so what, but i think that's really a secondary issue, really what happened and what didn't

what israel expected was that despite the peace accords, despite the decades and years of cease-fires, especially from such a small piece of land like the gaza strip, it 's only 148 miles, so it's a very small piece of land like that, but israel certainly didn't expect how and no one, i think in the world, no special services, the international world or other countries expected a massive... terrorist attack, which in fact, you know, bordered on suicide, that is, an attack that was inflicted on israel, surely hamas understood that they will have to answer for this terrorism, and that's it let's explain for our tv viewers that in reality, at 6 a.m. on saturday , terrorists who identify themselves with the hamas movement began shelling, shooting and taking hostages, where.

at the nova open-air music festival, where there were thousands of people, peaceful people came, demonstratively , to hold this music festival in the desert near the border of gaza and israel as a peaceful one, as a symbol of the fact that two peoples, two countries are coming together and can live in peace . next, the terrorists who entered settlements near the gaza border israel, captured women, children, and demonstratively. cynically, knowing that this world is now global, especially in social networks, videos of people with their hands tied, in cages, because women were being led through the streets, armed terrorists, all this, nothing else than a mass terrorist attack can be called, and therefore so acutely , now for the third day, israel responds, in fact, it is the israel defense forces, which is now in terrorist

warehouses, headquarters, and locations already on the territory of the gas sector. in summary, a massive terrorist attack on israel and those the mercenaries, attackers who carried it out, in my opinion, did not work and did not receive biased information from the intelligence services of israel, as well as from other countries, only because , in my opinion, iran is behind this massive strike. at a minimum, and on the territory of iran, most likely, the terrorists were preparing, receiving satellite images, receiving guidance , receiving drones, which were used for the first time, and with great accuracy, before the terrorists crossed, the same wall was built with video surveillance, that is video surveillance, video cameras , that is

think about it, the use of professional drones was so accurate that they simply put these drones on video and blew them up, thereby depriving the israel defense forces of their eyes and the ability to control what happened next with this wall, and after that the terrorists themselves began to break through with weapons and taking hostages on the territory of israel. all this together, i repeat, i think that it was prepared on the territory of the most closed country of iran, and therefore biased information was extremely difficult for the mossad and other special services to obtain israel mr. valentin, the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelenskyi, during his address to the meeting of the nato parliamentary assembly in copenhagen, compared the tactics of hamas in israel with the tactics of russia, which it uses against ukraine, let's listen to what zelennyskyi said. the israelis themselves, the israeli journalists who were with us in ukraine, who were in buch,

say now that they saw the same evil where russia came, the same evil. and only one difference, there is a terrorist organization that hit israel, here a terrorist state that struck ukraine , the declared intentions are different, but the essence is the same, you see it, you see the same blood on the streets, the same shot cars of civilians, the same bodies of people who were tortured. mr. valentin, unpunished evil provokes new evil, do you agree with the thesis that russia's unstoppable war against ukraine provokes the world to new wars and new violations of international agreements, agreements,

borders and generally any norms of modern civilized society. i think the fire of terrorism is kindled now, against israel and between gaza and israel is significantly in favor of only one country in the world, it is the terror state, the aggressor state, i.e. russia, because now, all that really with the beginning of the full-scale invasion we have seen on our territory and we see all this, if not copied, then just as orchestrated and coordinated, when terrorists attacked and took hostages and used, i repeat, rockets and drones against peaceful settlements on the territory of israel, all this is not just a reminder, it is the same tactic, the same application, and let's go deeper, well, let's all, let's remember who from which country came to poper

on the eve of this terrorist mass attack on iran, the minister of defense of russia, choigu, he brought technology, huge money, russia paid and pays. iran for producing these shaheds, barrage munitions, terrorist drones that attack us, the peaceful cities and villages of ukraine, and therefore earning such crazy money, receiving such crazy money from the terrorist state of russia, iran had and used them as now, it turns out and it remains to be seen in order to train terrorist groups to attack peaceful israeli settlements, all this in my opinion. not only the events are interconnected, but also accomplices in the use of terrorism in the modern conditions of terrorism using terrorism against neighboring countries, russia uses terrorism against us, against ukraine, iran supported and now hamas uses terrorism against neighboring

israel. this is what actually happened, but i will say that the time when the sector was chosen for this massive terrorist attack against israel from the territory. gas, just undermines peace a process that was essentially at the finish line between israel and saudi arabia, between israel and other arab countries, which came not only to reconciliation, but also to the establishment of diplomatic relations, to the establishment of commercial agreements and trade relations, that is, iran and hamas knew that do and harassed, supported. in my opinion , the russian federation uses its terrorist money, they are allies, russia is an ally of iran, iran is an ally of russia, hamas is an ally of iran and russia. that's how it all unfolded. therefore, to our allies, of the anti-putin coalition, the united states

of america, the european union, ukraine and dozens and dozens of other countries. in fact, it is time to join forces to stop the kind of terrorism they support. entire states that are financed by entire states. it's time to move to tougher sanctions, not just, you know, whether the statement is condemned or not, move to a total embargo. and prevent countries that finance terrorism from making money on world markets. polish president andrzej duda believes that hamas's attack on israel will lead to full-scale aggression of the russian federation against ukraine. let's listen to what duda said. that's probably true, it certainly helps russia and russian aggression against ukraine, distracts the world's attention, we will probably have another wave of migrants from the middle east that will hit europe. the topics we discussed

recently, prime minister mateuszky in grenada and at the meeting in porto, are becoming even more relevant. the issue of our security, the protection of the borders of poland, the eu borders of the tangen zone is becoming more and more important. mr. valentin, the possible participation of iran in the preparation attack by hamas on israel and in general. the movements of hamas, hezbollah and other groups operating in the middle east, and the participation, possible participation, complicity of the russian federation, obviously indicate that this axis of evil, as the soviet terminology was often used, vizla now consists of a rather diverse public, i.e. north korea, belarus, russia, iran, maybe partly there at 1/10th of china or at 1/20th, but won't

the war we are seeing now in the middle east contribute to how the whole world will feel about it, as for the war of civilization, to which we belong, modern civilization and civilized countries, with this axis of evil, if it is articulated, what does it mean for us and for us? the war we are now waging against the russian federation and defending our territory. it is very important for us that it was articulated correctly and truthfully. actually, as i emphasized, there is terrorism, massive terrorism with huge human casualties, in ukraine, it started on february 24 and it was started by russia. on saturday, two days ago, it started in israel and was started by hamas with the support of iran, and russia supports and financed iran and continues to finance it

with its huge military orders and more. here, that group of countries, russia, iran, and the hamas movement , and that's it, that's it, no one supports this terrorism anymore, and i'm with you, let me disagree that china will somehow support them, no, no, no , now the task of ukraine, you and me , and the anti-putin coalition is precisely... to build sanctions and counter-terrorism tougher, so that there are no loopholes, so that no one doubts that what money is being used and why, that's the first thing i wanted to emphasize, and secondly, i'm convinced that just at this moment, i know that chancellor fern scholz, french president macron, with the president of the united states and the prime minister of great britain are building everything

after all, policies and measures to stop the war and to stop terrorism as soon as possible, on the land of israel and in the gas sector, and at the same time are produced by them , and here already in our interests, the steps and support of ukraine in countering russian terrorism and russian terrorist attacks, against ukraine. obviously, the current situation in the middle east again... will prompt the whole world to talk about some new security system, because literally this day there was a meeting of the un security council, a closed meeting, where they discussed the war in israel, eh, there are no decisions from the security council oon, we see that the european union is meeting tomorrow and the minister of foreign affairs of the european union will discuss the situation in israel, there is a slightly different story, because, er, the european union actually helped palestine and this is a subsidy

the territory was, they allocated 600 million euros a year to help the palestinians, and now it turns out that in this, yes, in this situation, they stopped all aid, israel stopped the supply of water, electricity, fuel, that is, they do everything in order for this territory to simply become unsuitable for living there, and it is clear that in this situation, again in the context of the russian-ukrainian war, what we felt was not... not there are these security rules, this security system is already destroyed 24 february 2022, in your opinion, will what is happening now in israel still force the world to sit down at the negotiating table, not to start talking seriously in an adult way, what is the rat without the un, what is the un, how is this whole security system in operates in the world, and in what way can this system

be reformed or re-founded, as it once was with the league of nations in the united nations? yes, but it will be long and a little later, in my opinion , what is happening now in a more serious reaction is much more important. first and foremost - american the aircraft carrier came closer to israel and the gas sector, and the air cover and support and protection of israel will now be provided , including provided by the united states naval forces, which are direct. we are allies of israel, by the way, the united states of america is our direct ally, so the first part, which the world will now respond more seriously to, is military aid and protection of israel from terrorist attacks, this is the first. second, it is equally important for us that ukraine and our armed forces receive as soon as possible f-16 and other fighters, and missiles that

can shoot down russian terrorist missiles, closing and protecting ukraine. the sky, ukrainian citizens and ukrainian infrastructure, especially again on the eve of winter, here are two immediate steps that i would take, number one and would not wait for the un meeting and pre-meetings, statements, condemnations and so on, it is long and actually, i agree with you are starting a process that already has little meaning and little return, putin has destroyed international law, russia's aggression is wrong with the fact that, what is the international order, what are the international rules, for us there are no rules, for them there are no rules, what they want, they do, so the answer to terrorism can and will be, i think, this time, not only and not so much at the level of the un, but as for more serious armed responses and repulses, and here is a place for us, ukraine, in

the anti-putin coalition to receive more serious assistance for our armed forces. and i emphasize precisely that combat aircraft , which can and should cover the ukrainian sky, is the number one issue for us, because look at israel, they are destroying hamas in the territory of the gaza strip and not only that israeli aircraft, high-precision strikes and missiles from fighter aircraft, this is what ukraine needs very much, in light of what is happening now in the middle east in the un security council, the un representative, vasyl nebendzia, says that in the village of groza in the kharkiv region , where 52 ukrainians died as a result of a ballistic missile strike, says that some neo-nazis were destroyed there, that is, everything

reaches such an absurdity within the walls of the united nations that there are very... many questions about the activities of this organization and the effectiveness of this organization, but before commenting on this situation, let's listen to what vasyl nebendzia, the permanent representative of russia to the un, said. as you know, at the time of the attack , the funeral of one of the high-ranking ukrainian nationalists was taking place there. of course, many of his accomplices, neo-nazis, took part in them. it is no coincidence that the pictures published... immediately after the attack, almost all the bodies in the pictures belong to men of draft age. we have already encountered such situations more than once, the kyiv regime wringing its hands for those who died as a result hit hotels, hostels, cafes, shops and so on, and then a large number of obituaries, military foreign mercenaries appeared, this is a random coincidence, we do not exclude that there will also be

a storm. mr. valentin, to put it very briefly, why does the... a once more important structure, an international structure, and even now under delegation to this structure and where the maximum number of countries of the world gather, why does it tolerate what russia is doing to this structure and its representative is not bendzia , why, why all this is being heard and why these arguments are perceived as such, like the dew of god, you know, well, it actually leads to absurdity, who is the representative of russia? country of terrorists who killed half a village in a thunderstorm in the territory of ukraine, they killed half a village of a peaceful village, they killed a terrorist missile with a terrorist attack. that is why, bringing it to the point of absurdity, to undermining in principle, you know, the common sense, the scumbag of terrorists ne benziya, the representative of russia,

says such things, he has a place on the bench of the international tribunal, which, i believe, is the question, here we are with you the first, the second considered, the third question, the un has to dare and still vote for the creation of an international tribunal, and it should be there for a long time, and not only, but most importantly... the russian federation, especially the military personnel who commit and continue to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity on the territory of ukraine , this is exactly what i focused on and drew attention to, and international organizations, where we are members of ukraine, we are also a founding country in the un, it is very important for us to convince the whole world and ensure that an international tribunal is created, this is the best. another answer like this you know, absolutely, the ridiculous statement of the representatives of the russian federation, although in my opinion, they do it

deliberately, in order to bring it to absurdity, to undermine the authority of international organizations with their statements, the simplest step that ukraine has been demanding for a long time, is to exclude russia from the security council un, but while russia has allies, there are not many of them, there are five or six countries. remained, but among them are china and others, it cannot be done, but, i think, eventually and soon, it should happen. thank you, mr. valentin, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, please like this video and also take part in our vote, today we ask you: do you think the situation in israel will affect the war in ukraine, yes, no, and also, write your comments under this video if you have a different

opinion. oleksandr joins our broadcast musyenko, head of the center for military legal studies. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. i congratulate you. let's start with the situation in israel, and what is happening there at the moment and in general these days. in the last three days, because literally parallel to the beginning of hostilities, active hostilities of hamas against the state of israel, information appeared that , they say, in this way, russia is trying to take advantage of the west's focus and shift the west's attention from the ukrainian front , of the russian-ukrainian front, to israel. united states secretary of state anthony blinken. does not believe that the attack of hamas on israel, i will try to use the focus of the west on ukraine, he stated this in an interview with the cbs channel, let's listen to what

mr. blinkin said, no, i do not see it, we do not see it, we will see when we will learn more about what the motives were, but one thing is clear, we have been actively working to help israel and saudi arabia normalize their relations, and for israel to expand its relations with many other countries in the region and beyond. the only thing is that we told israel is that we are here, we support you, we want to make sure you have the support you need. in your opinion, what is currently happening in israel will affect the russian-ukrainian war, and in general, the attitude to this war in the world? i think it is an exaggeration to actually think that all this will draw attention away from ukraine. this is impossible, because, first of all, it is now assumed that the offensive campaign and operation of israel, it is showing success and will be

quite successful and victorious, and the terrorist ankle of hamas will be defeated and it is obvious that there will be no direct confrontation with iran in this period of time, that is, there will probably be no strikes on iran's military facilities, the united states has stated that they do not see direct evidence of iranian intervention at the moment, and it seems that that, apparently, the fleet that the russian group approached, it is more in order to deter israel from striking and unilateral actions directly not within the framework of the us coalition or with other countries on iran, so obviously the situation, it will gradually begin to fade and will move into the channel, well, let's say so of clashes that will happen, and in the future it will probably go beyond the domestic political situation, finding out how this could happen, what went wrong, why there was no warning in advance.

but this is already the internal political history of israel, it does not concern us, but in general, if we and, that is, here, i do not see how it can be diverted informationally and said away from the attention, so to the people of the world, of course, it happened, it is happening now, because they cannot help talking about it, but from a practical, technical, strategic point of view, no, i think not, especially since there were constant contacts and crises in the region, here it seems to me that it is necessary to look globally at what happened, who could be involved in this and what profits and benefits he wanted to receive, well , i think so , of course, about russia's attempt to try to create and, let's say, start a big war in the middle east with the goal of getting the us involved there, and the west getting involved, and large-scale hostilities starting there, as a result,

that would mean that we would be short on aid , and the focus of this attention will be diverted many months in advance, it certainly could have been, and the facts that russian military instructors and advisers were training hamas members , terrorists, i have practically no doubts, here it was not without russia, but globally, who is now trying to profit from this as much as possible, it's china, and china will reprimand...' turns this situation in its favor, you see, not for nothing, in his quote, in this phrase, state secretary blinken said an interesting, important thing that israel intended to establish relations, to improve relations with saudi arabia, a i want to remind you who put the agreements between iran and saudi arabia, which were made not so long ago, into a case, into an asset, and they repaired, established diplomatic relations, restored them, it was china, and

guess what. thus says what they have done now again there sent a message that it is necessary to recognize the independence of palestine there and so on and so on, declared, and here they say that do not forget to solve the problems in the middle east with the participation of china, which has a certain case , and this competition for approaches and the us is direct, i think that secretary of state blinkin i remembered it for a reason. against the background of this bloody battle that has been going on for the past three days, well, she is. continues, actually in the middle east, we see what the russians are saying, in particular the deputy chairman of the security council of the russian federation, dmitry medvedev, began to use this situation to say, well, look, the west is providing weapons to ukraine, then , these weapons that go to ukraine are going, these weapons are going to israel or to the hands of those who are fighting

in israel. i will quote him: weapons have been transferred to the neo-nazi regime in ukraine, actively is used in israel, then it, like the weapons left by the americans by fugitives in afghanistan, will be used without control in all hot spots, because even before the corrupt government of ukraine traded everything it got, stole gas and oil, products, materials, stole everything that was bad , it will only get worse, expect missiles, tanks on the black market, and soon planes from kyiv, judging by what medvedev is saying, it is quite likely. that the weapons that fell into the hands of the russians on the russian-ukrainian front, and this weapon was western, it was delivered to the same hamas, it may well be through iran, and it was used against israel in order to discredit ukraine in this situation, or at least, you know how it is in the kalchug story, nothing

there was, but there was widespread publicity and ukraine was treated as a country that sold four chain mails to iraq under sanctions in the early 2000s, could such a special operation be carried out by the russian special services in order to discredit ukraine and say that that everything was stretched in ukraine, you see the corrupt government, they took the javilin party, handed it over to hamas, well, of course, it can and will be used, most likely it is already being used, the simple question is that the united states was informed about it even before and they said, i want to remind you, there were situations a few months ago when it was established that, unfortunately, in the course of hostilities, in the mariupol district as early as 2022, then...