[000:00:00;00] about the cat apelmon, my husband and i are very, very grateful, and of course, this cat, apelmon, will always remain a symbol of the weather and will belong not only to us, but also to all of you, i hope, once again i remind you that frost is expected in the coming night, it will be cold, but during the week it is expected to warm up, we will warm up again , vasyl, good evening, we are from ukraine, glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health, today in the program. they are trying to take avdiivka, the most powerful enemy attacks on the city in the last six months. the kremlin's trail in the attack on israel, why

putin... is profitable to destabilize the middle east, and how will this affect the situation at the front? a trophy weapon in the hands of hamas, how does russia use the war in israel for provocations against ukraine? away with the moscow priest, will people's deputies free ukraine from kremlin agents in ryas? we will talk about this and other things today with our guests, with a colonel of the security service of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine mykola knyazhytskyi and a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, major of the reserve of the national guard of ukraine, oleksiy hetman. however, before starting our big evening, i suggest you watch the video of how the russians stormed avdiivka today and how a real tank attack took place near avdiivka. nine

units of armored vehicles went today to the avdiivka from the occupied donetsk and tried to cut off the avdiivka from the water and experienced, but they did not succeed, and we will see what came out of all this. auf dem meer lauert das verderben die kreatur

so stern. and the column of armored vehicles could not to cross the bridge, one tank, as you saw, fell off the bridge and ended up in the water, and the others had to turn back. friends, for those who are watching us live on youtube right now, please like this video and also take part in our poll, today we ask you this, do you think russia is involved in the hamas attack on israel? yes, no, please vote, at the end of the program, we'll tally up that vote, well, if you have an opinion about how russia is involved, if russia is involved in the attack hamas on israel, please write in the comments under this video. we are waiting for the inclusion of colonel of the security service of ukraine,

people's deputy of ukraine roman. kostenko, but it will obviously be a little later, and we are also waiting for the inclusion from washington, where the president of the united states of america, joseph biden, will make a speech about the situation in israel, while israel is preparing for a ground operation in the gaza strip, at that time, putin will receive the prem of the prime minister of the republic of iraq, muhammad sudani, and calls the war in... the middle east a failure of the united states' policy states of america, let's listen to what was said in moscow today. i think that many will agree with me that this is a clear example of the failure of the policy of the united states in the middle east, which tried to monopolize the settlement, but , unfortunately, was not concerned with the search for

compromises acceptable to both sides, on the contrary - putting forward its own ideas about how it should be done, they exerted pressure on both parties, precisely on both, now on one and then on the other, but each time without taking into account... core interests of the palestinian people, bearing in mind, first of all, the need to implement the decisions of the un security council on the creation of an independent sovereign palestinian state. as you can see, vladimir putin, who is himself a terrorist and a man who sends russians to kill ukrainians, is acting as an arbitrator, an international negotiator, i would say, a decision maker, who is trying to... tell the whole world that the united states of america has lost on the middle east, and iran and the russian federation respectively benefited from the current conflict, well, the key thing is what putin said, that

in order to solve the palestinian-israeli conflict, it is necessary to implement the decisions of the un security council regarding the creation of an independent sovereign palestinian state, that is, our issue, which we articulate today to those watching. right now we have on youtube, is russia involved in the hamas attack on israel, it seems that yes, if you asked me, i would say yes , because it turns out that it brings vladimir putin back to the highest echelons of international politics, and he is on at these stages, he is already beginning to articulate his position regarding what he has to be with palestine, which should be with israel, and in this situation, of course, putin, an exile who was...' until october 7, before the start of the war in the middle east, now acts as

a person who can influence something, to take some definite steps so that palestine in this case rolled back and hamas apologized to the israelis and next time they sat down at the transition table, but judging by everything, this will not happen, because israel said that we will do everything in order to take revenge for the killed people who suffered from hamas, since october 7th, the fourth day of the war, we see these events unfolding, hamas is trying to attack israel, constantly trying to attack israel, israeli forces are reporting that they have already taken control of all the regions and the south of israel and from the north there, lebanon is also trying to attack israel, that is, the situation is quite difficult, which is currently developing

in the middle east, and of course, of course, in this situation, putin, who says that the united states of america has lost, constantly adds fuel to the fire, against this background , of course there is a lot of information coming out about iran's involvement in the preparation of this hamas attack on israel, white house spokesman john kirby considers iran to be an accomplice of hamas , to quote mr. kirby, the united states has no intelligence or evidence that directly indicates iran's involvement in the attacks in israel , but iran has long supported hamas and other terrorist groups. in its region with training and resources, and so in this regard, iran is obviously a partner, kirby emphasized, adding that the united states of america does not currently possess specific

evidence of iran's direct participation in the attacks in israel, well, you see, in principle , most experts and most observers say that such a planned, terrorist act , which hamas militants resorted to on october 7, obviously could not have passed without the participation of iran, a rather powerful a country that influences the entire region, including hamas and hezbollah, so it is obvious that if there is evidence that iran was somehow involved in the preparation of a hamas attack on israel, the united states of america will prepare one. iran's response, but that will be another story and it is obvious that the war in the middle east can flare up with new force and on a different scale , the president of the russian federation,

vladimir putin, is obviously counting on this, because for putin the most important thing in this situation is for the history of his war against ukraine to take second place plan, so that the whole world now focuses on the situation in the middle east, and accordingly , the world began to provide less financial military aid to ukraine, and as the washington post writes in the white house, they still plan to prevent this from happening , they are planning to combine aid to ukraine and israel into one package, biden believes that this will increase the chances of kyiv's support, because it will block the far-right, who are against increasing aid to ukraine and for aid to israel, however, the final decision on combined, combined requests and combined

aid budgets have not yet been submitted to congress. i don't know what joseph biden will say today in his speech about israel, all i know is that a large aircraft carrier group is now moving from the mediterranean to the shores of israel, and apparently this aircraft carrier the group, which includes many ships and helicopters and modern f-35 aircraft, must demonstrate to the whole world , including iran, that washington has quite serious intentions to protect israel, israel is one of the partners of the international partners of the united states of america, they have serious obligations to each other and, accordingly, to the united states. america

before israel, so the united states of america will do its best to prevent this situation from escalating further, and this carrier group aims to restrain those who are thinking or who dream of a big war in the middle east with the participation of other arab countries, because the league of arab states is such an association that includes more than 20 arab countries and in total these countries have 360 ​​million residents, and it is clear that if a big war starts with the participation of the united states of america and iran in the middle east, then of course it will not be without the participation of other arab countries , and accordingly, other

countries of the world will not refrain from others. from this war, and obviously obviously, this is the first thing that is beneficial, for vladimir putin himself, what they are saying in moscow, in moscow they are saying that hamas attacked israel and at the same time they used weapons, western weapons, which the ukrainians allegedly sent to the gaza sector, or sold this weapons, fighting. to hamas, of course, our officials and official structures deny this information, the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine says that there is no confirmation that any weapons from the russian-ukrainian front come from the russian-ukrainian front

to hamas from the ukrainian side, does not correspond to reality, i.e. there are none, there are only statements of russian government officials and heads of the russian occupation administration, in particular the deputy head of the security council of the russian federation dmitry medvedev, who yesterday talked a lot about the fact that the ukrainians allegedly supplied weapons to hamas, and hamas attacked israel as a result, this is all a lie, of course, and like everything that is articulated by the mouths of medvedev and putin and zakharov and it all does not correspond to reality, but you see that the russians they are trying to add oil to the wagon, they are trying to shift the focus of the west's attention in this situation, to the fact that it is not russia that is involved in this attack, but the ukrainians are said to have joined in as well, today durnytsia again began

to say the same thing... about involvement, about involvement in the igils, or in the financing of the igils and the arming of the igils, the ukrainians, once again began to say, medvedev, well, this is all complete nonsense, and it is simply stupid to argue with it here, because a lie is a lie, unfortunately, colonel of the sbu, roman kostenko could not join ours air, we have a wonderful guest on the call, oleksiy hetman, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, mr. major, i welcome you and i am glad to see you on our air. to each other, good evening. good evening. we are talking about the situation in the middle east, how it affects the situation in the world in general, including the course of the russian-ukrainian war. and i already spoke in such a long introduction about the fact that putin is doing his best to

suppress the situation, to return to the role a negotiator or a person who negotiates peace in the middle east there and wants to shift the focus of the world community from the russian-ukrainian war to the middle east in this way. i wonder if russia is involved in the hostilities that are currently unfolding in the middle east and in the attack by hamas on the state of israel. judging by everything involved, well, it is by, indirect signs, but it can be seen from the actions that are doing exactly this, precisely these, well, you can even call the ban formation terrorist organizations, in this their actions are very similar to the actions of the russian of the armed forces, when the full-scale invasion began, it began, from the side

, well, hamas also with a cyber attack, there were, just as it was before and at the beginning of the full-scale invasions, then very similar actions were visible... those, well terrorists on, behavior, on actions, at least the wagner pmc near bakhmut, that is, it is an attack by small groups that communicate with each other and, well, in a certain way try to act in a coordinated way, these people who led these groups, they definitely went through training, well, maybe not, instructors from the wagner pvc, but people who, well, at least researched, carefully researched, combat operations in ukraine and how small assault groups operate, so we cannot yet say 100% that russia is directly involved in these attacks, but i am sure that this evidence will appear sooner or later , well, the reaction of the russians, the leadership, precisely the russians, the political leadership of the russian federation, well, we have already

seen, we have heard what the minister of foreign affairs, lavrov, said about what is being used there. the terrorists seem to have western -style weapons that are supplied to ukraine, and we think that someone there is reselling them to us, further, it was his statement, well, and the relationship to who is on which side , kadyrov said today, who, who emphasized that their troops, his there and then, can take part in hostilities, but as peacekeepers, well, exclusively on the side of the palestinians, that is, this is how the russian federation reacted to these events, that is, why it is not on the side, and it immediately became clear, and the pressure on our country, well, on the international community, spreading lies about what we supply there weapons, they will also use them, well, in addition to the direct war, there will be very powerful informational attacks by

the russian federation, in order to convince the world that there is some interest of ours or our fault in the fact that these actions. started, immediately answering the question of whether this will affect the war in ukraine, it has already affected, because certain warehouses that were in israel, american warehouses with , well, less, with shells and with other weapons, now the supply of warehouses is suspended, well, on for some time, while the hostilities are going on, it has already had an effect, and there are two opposite, extreme ones evaluations, will it divert attention from the events of the war in israel from the war in ukraine or , on the contrary, will it increase attention to our to the war to our on the contrary, he says that the world

will now understand that war can break out all over the world and that here in ukraine it is necessary not just to solve this issue, but to end this war and perhaps only ours will win. i am also inclined to the opinion that attention to our war, given the events in israel, well no event war in israel, it will not weaken, but will intensify. well, let's see, and maybe, maybe, those events that are currently unfolding in the middle east will be considered as part of a great war, civilization, the conventional name of civilization of civilized countries, against evil countries. because we clearly see this axis, it is absolutely looming, the axis of evil, that is, russia, iran, militants, korea, yes, north korea, hezbollah. and behind them stands china, which seems to have a neutral

position, but we understand on which side, it is by and large, this is not this, well, many people say that this is the third world war, as it has already started, well, it could be, you know, it could be the third world war, but not like the first or the second, but it may be more like a century or 30-year war, it is by and large a war of civilizations, a war of totalitarian regimes such as, well , including russia with the entire civilized world, i am sure that this war, well, well, in the end the civilized world will win, but we have to understand what will happen, you know well, now north korea, south korea is threatening that they will do something similar to terrorist attacks on israel.

there is a certain tension between kosovo and serbia, that is, a war, somewhere it will spread around the world, because russia just like it seems to us that we will now reach takmak or some other cities, there we will cut logistics and so on, and so on, let's liberate crimea and defeat russia, everything will be over, well, we have to realize who we are dealing with and if, they already feel the russians that war is war directly against ukraine. with the support of the entire civilian world, the civilized world, they will lose, so they will do everything possible so that this war spreads all over the world, and we cannot avoid a war of civilization, a war, let's say, of the civilized world with the totalitarian world, well, not them, on it's a pity, but the history that is unfolding before our eyes in the middle east shows that unpunished evil, in this case russia, during the attack on ukraine. it breeds even more evil, meaning we see

how hamas works, we see that hezbollah is there raises its wings and threatens israel as well, we see how north korea threatens south korea, we see how iran welcomes these terrorist attacks on israel, we see how this axis of evil, how constantly spinning this flywheel of the third world war, that is ... the absence of rules and the absence of punishment for crimes, for international crimes and the absence of some world policeman who will stop all these people, in your opinion, will it further provoke some small wars, which as a result, as you say , will become the third world war, although when the war in ukraine started, when russia attacked ukraine , we already... talked about the fact that this is the third world war, it's just that the whole world was watching it as a local conflict, it's not a local

conflict, you see , this conflict is spreading, there is talk that the russians are going to try to attack some nato country , to bring nato directly into the hostilities, well, look, came to israeli shores, came , an aircraft carrier group came, an aircraft carrier came and if iran tries interfere, it was already officially in favor of... the white house that they will act against israel not with help , not with concern, directly with weapons, they will directly take part in this war, well this, well how this, how this, this this this this, and there will already be the third world war, well no, not everyone wants to believe in him, you know, the position of appeasement by the aggressor, i don’t understand, well , it can be chimper even before the second world war, he tried to do this, and somehow, well no , he came to of great britain, after negotiations shows. no need to warn said, i brought you peace, he brought you war, by and large, here the church rightly said, if you choose shame between shame and war, then

you get both shame and war, so i don’t know, maybe someone knows history better than me , if possible, he would pacify the aggressors and this would stop some wars, well , this has never happened, the aggressor must be defeated and then the war can end. may end, it seems to me that trying to come to an agreement, trying to seat someone there at the table, at the table of victories, in order to find some there, something, some compromises, well, what compromises, for example, what do we need, what compromises can we agree on with russia, we want to return our territory, they, they do not want to return it to us, to our lands, well, no less crimea and those regions that they have already included in their constitution as part of the russian federation, although , by doing so, they, they violated certain articles of their own constitution, where it is written in

the russian constitution that any complete change of territory. that is a crime, that is they changed and annexed regions of ukraine, violating their own constitution, and what about us, what can we offer them, nothing, so it seems to me that the civilized world, the united states, ukraine, nato have enough strength and means to not to negotiate, namely by force, to force these countries to peace, such aggressions, iran and so on, that is, there are enough weapons, there are enough forces, i understand that this is where to start, well, if not to start, wait further, try to come to an agreement, well, well nothing, you know, it's like a cure for a disease, what the sooner you start treatment, the better the chances of recovery, if you delay, well, it will simply, simply, continue to get worse, it won’t , this mechanism won’t work, let’s come to an agreement with the aggressor, we’ll offer him some dividends, some mats, and everything will be

fine , and he will calm down, he won't crawl anymore, well, it never happened, it never happened, why does it have to, you know, if you do the same things all the time, or when you do something, you will get some result if you keep doing the same things action, you get the same result, well, you can't do the same actions, try to dream of getting a different result, nothing will work, well, in the end, i think that our partners, especially after the war in israel, they will start to treat us a little differently, and before our war. and i will understand that we should no longer think about what weapons we need, but simply give us as many weapons as are necessary for victory, for a real victory over not only the free territory there, over the russian federation, and such a victory, as the prime minister said - minister of israel, so that the next generation does not want to even think about attacking our country , there is no other way out, yes, this is war, this is

not good, but in another way to achieve peace... in my subjective point of view, it is impossible, mr. major, why, why, why, in your opinion, the united states of america and part of the world treat what is happening in israel and what is happening in ukraine quite differently, because we see how the majority of the civilized world says that hamas is militants, that it is a terrorist organization, that they have to be responsible for this, and israel says that we will simply destroy them. and fire all over the earth, and at the same time we see a terrorist organization, the great russian federation, but the approach to this terrorist organization is completely different, why they are ready to accept the end of hamas and not ready to accept the end of putin's regime. this, you know, this, i think that we have leverage in negotiations with our

partners, that when they start telling us about what. something we have to do, we have the right to do, something we don't have the right to do, well, we have to to immediately refer to what israel is doing, and then, i think that the arguments of those who tell us about some kind of peace, about some, well, it is unclear, doves of peace, so even though they are not doves of peace, it is said that, well they do not have arguments, although i think they will find some kind of argumentation, well, you know, i think that it is necessary to say, on all our, on all international platforms, where only we can be, that different approaches to evaluation are impossible the actions of our armed forces and to the assessment of the actions of the israeli armed forces, and most importantly, what should i say, it seems to me that the presence of nuclear weapons does not give indulgence from the crimes committed by a country, look, if a country has nuclear weapons, then for some reason it starts to take aggressive actions, they start to agree on something with it and try

to convince those who who did they attack, what do you have to negotiate with them, you know, again, nuclear weapons indulgence, so even if a country has nuclear weapons, if it does something like russia does, it should be punished for it, and it and the army, and industry, and nuclear weapons, among others must be destroyed, so ukraine, having received nuclear weapons, is a very powerful force , it does not understand how to give a grenade, so you have to take the grenade away, that's it, there is no other way out, by the way, volodymyr zelenskyi... being in bucharest today , while meeting with his romanian colleague, spoke, in particular, about the involvement of the russian federation in the hamas attack on israel , let's listen to what zelsky said, who is behind hamas, i think the answer is simple enough, whoever supports them, we can see,