[000:00:00;00] execute those that they attacked, that they have to negotiate something with them, you know, again, nuclear-armed indulgence, so even with a nuclear-armed country, if it does something like russia does, it should be punished for it, and it and the army, and industry, including nuclear weapons, must be destroyed, so if a country, having received nuclear weapons, is a very powerful force, does not understand how to give a grenade to the enemy, then you have to take the grenade away, that's all, there is no other way out . by the way, volodymyr zelenskyi, being there today in bucharest, meeting with his romanian colleague, he spoke, in particular, about the involvement of the russian federation in the hamas attack on israel, let's listen to what zelensky said. who is behind hamas? i think the answer is simple enough, whoever supports them, we can see, supports them

publicly. supports with weapons, this is not the first day, not one day, this has been going on for a long time, i think there may be an answer here that you can find yourself, and also in social networks you can see on the grids, in on social networks, who give appropriate, appropriate signals, that's all, we believe that russia is one of those who helped and is behind such appropriate steps. and the gur of the ministry of defense of ukraine, as i have already said, reported on provocations by the russian federation, regarding the information about the trophy weapons that supposedly got to hamas from the ukrainians, what the representative of the gur andriy yusov said in an interview with the voice of america,

let's listen. we see how active. top russian speakers, including official representatives of the regime, took part in this a campaign aimed at discrediting ukraine, openly manipulating and mixing concepts and throwing everything together and aid to afghanistan and aid to ukraine, and of course these things cannot be combined and compared with each other, besides, aid, all aid to ukraine, all weapons are under strict control from side, including our partners, the united states, and the country. of the european union, nato as a whole, and the results of this control and the results of inspections have been reported repeatedly, and ukraine is as transparent as possible here, well, at the moment when events are unfolding in the middle east, russia is trying to attack us on the eastern front, in the area of ​​avdiivka, and the fighters who are, in particular in the avdiivka direction, say

that they are already completely against the russians and are trying to break through the front and are making some efforts , in your opinion, mr. major, can russia take advantage of the fact that now the world is more occupied with israel in order to take some steps in order to go forward and force ukraine to make some concessions, or at least talk about something already there with the russians. i think no, the fact is that it is unlikely that the war in israel, today, except for the informational component, will somehow affect what is happening on our front, the aid to us has not stopped, what has already been handed over to us this year we will have enough for now, well, at least until the end

of the year, even more, so to say that somehow the world will stop reacting to the war in ukraine so actively, and will start to react more actively to the war in israel, well, it's true, it's really now it's a bloody war, that's why the whole world is now on the fourth day only there is a war going on and there is a lot, well, it occupies the information space, but it does not change anything, well, in addition to the information component, there is also a military component in this war and it has not changed in any way, they did not stop supplying anything, not to us, they stopped conversations, look, biden offers to receive 100 billion, to immediately vote in a package in the congress, to help israel and ukraine, well , the package should include these two things in one package, a very reasonable thing, and here it is unlikely that anyone will be against something that the republicans and democrats are in , well, because israel is involved here,

you can be against the united states, you can. to be against ukraine , but in the united states it is not possible to be against israel, it seems to me, that is why it is the only thing that is unclear, what percentage will go to us, what percentage will go, directly... to israel, well, but what are they talking about, that this war that started in israel, it, well, what, i said, that there are extreme opinions, that it can, on the contrary, not stop, but help, in the support of our country, the united states, other countries, and here we see , what is a proposal for a package for voting, it can be like that confirms a little bit my position that, most likely, the aid to us will not decrease, but will increase, god forbid. against the background of what is happening in the east and south of ukraine, as well as in the near east , president zelenskyi made a personnel appointment, changed the commander of the territorial defense forces, by his decrees grant dismissed

ihor tansyura from the post of commander of the tro forces and appointed general marshal anatoly bargilevich in his place. let's see who anatoly bargilevich is and who, in fact, what kind of commander igor was. who is the commander? of the territorial defense forces of ukraine, anatoliy bargelevich, brief reference. he was in fact the first commander of the territorial defense while still part of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine, who began to create and develop a powerful system of anti-terrorist forces before a full-scale invasion. at the beginning of the great aggression, one of the few generals who was not in the cabinet , but with a weapon in his hands, led the defense of the settlement of gorenka, which did not give the enemy the opportunity to quickly capture the capital, managing the number one defense sector of kyiv, the basis of which was units of tro, organized the defense of the city from the north, and i saw these soldiers, they were with epaulettes, in my opinion, there was a colonel

and there was a general bargilivych, which caused me mixed feelings, because i had never seen generals on the front line before at that moment, for almost one and a half years, he heads the headquarters of the khortyts operational-strategic grouping of troops, whose troops conducted a number of notable military operations, including the kharkiv offensive. undoubtedly, the combat experience and professionalism of general anatoly bargelevich will be a powerful driving force for the future development and strengthening of territorial defense. mr. major, i do not know whether you were personally acquainted with the dancer and with barguleche , or what such personnel changes are connected with, and whether this is a normal rotation, there is nothing strange about this...' there is nothing strange, because we we know a lot of good things about ihor tansyura and anatoly bargilevich, the war naturally needs new personnel, and it is clear that the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine is trying to somehow

place these personnel in the military hierarchy, what do you say, i still yes, i still i think that it is unlikely that president zelensky makes such decisions independently analyzing, well, he makes the decision. and when analyzing the candidacies of military personnel who are to occupy these high positions, i am sure he consults with the general staff, with ours, i am sure that he consulted with the intelligence service, he consulted with the intelligence service management, the main intelligence management, by the security service, that is, i just don't like it, i don't like it, it doesn't work like that here, and most likely this candidacy was offered to him for...' as a person who can improve the situation, well at least in tro. well, you can’t say anything bad about the predecessor, but such reports, you know, they are, well, they are sometimes very appropriate, what happened there, why, maybe

the person was tired, maybe he wrote a report, we don’t know what, maybe he he will be transferred to another position, which will be more convenient for him, according to his specialty, we do not know this, but let's not look for something... unkind here, because he is appointed not, a charming general, a combatant is appointed general, and to hope that these are some games under the carpet, well, it is unlikely, why, well , there were some reasons, i do not think that there is any negativity against the previous one, the previous leader, we did not hear, not from the opposition, let's say so, the forces, not from the right-wing forces, so, by the way, you know, it's interesting what happened in israel, they immediately did...' such national unity, pro-government positions, opposition forces, they during the war united and will now make joint decisions that will benefit all israelis, because what is the opposition, it

people, they are not, they are not traitors, they are people who received a minority in certain elections there, but they received a large number of votes and therefore it is very correct during the war to unite both those who won the elections and those , who lost, to the exclusion of which marginal or frankly hostile parties, which prohibit, then it would be, such a national one. well, it would only improve, as they did in israel , then after the war, let's show around our cities, we'll quarrel again, we'll blame each other for everything, but during war, i think that we should have lunch, all of us who are pro-government, which are ukrainian parties , all of us, we are all for simple, mr. oleksiy, thank you for participating in the conversation, it was oleksiy hetman, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, friends, we are working... live on the tv channel, as well as on our

youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, i would like to remind you that you can vote in our poll, today we are asking you about whether you think russia is involved in the hamas attack on israel, yes, no, or your answer, please write in the comments below this video, we are always interested in reading your comments and getting your opinion, and please do not forget to put a fable in this video, in order for it to progress in youtube trends and in order for this conversation, our conversations, to be seen by more viewers on the youtube platform. mykola knyazhytskyi should be on the phone next, he will be on the air in just a few minutes, we are also still waiting for the speech of the president of the united states of america, joseph biden. biden has deliver a speech about the situation in but

for now the speech of the president of the united states of america is postponed. mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine, is in touch with us. mr. mykola, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. congratulations, i will briefly replace president biden for you. yeah, well, it's a decent replacement. mr. mykola, come on, if you are already replacing the acting president of the united states of america. then let's start with israel right away, because the israel ministry of defense of israel announced that israel goes into full offensive, gaza will never return to what it was, - the israelis said. how will the escalation of hostilities and war in the middle east affect the situation in ukraine, in particular on the russian-ukrainian front, because one way or another, these are components of one, element of

world security, which in one way or another the method has already been broken, well, there is a negative impact, there is a positive one, for the sake of negative thought all this atrocity in israel, because an agreement was to be signed between the united states, saudi arabia, israel, and as a result of this agreement should have been, should have increased saudi arabia's oil production, and this should have had the effect of increasing prices of decreasing oil prices, first of all, it would have hit the economies of other authoritarian states, such as iran and the russian federation, and from my point of view from the point of view, this whole special operation was done so that saudi arabia would not have the opportunity to conduct these negotiations and normalize its relations with israel, which is actually happening, and oil prices , on the contrary, are rising, that is, it is a negative influence. another influence is that of the united states in the states, more and more people are saying that it is necessary to combine aid... to ukraine and israel, everyone understands that

authoritarian regimes are behind this, in particular, the russian federation, which supports terrorist regimes in the middle east, and even now publicly declares its support for this, essentially terrorist regimes, and they have met with them before, and when in israel they show these horrors and atrocities , which unfortunately the israeli people were subjected to by terrorists, even the israelis write that this is bullshit, and everyone sees direct parallels between what happened, from this point of view... i think that maybe we will be able to be clearer to a lot of people, because, well, jews live in many countries, they are a part of the united states of america, and for the jews it is a disaster in general, because the most people died in one day since the time of the shua, since the time of the holocaust, and now they, they understand that the same thing happened to us and that it is the same handwriting, and here this international solidarity can help both us and israel. we ask our viewers what they think, whether russia is involved in

the attack by hamas on the state of israel, what you do you think russia is involved and in what way it could be involved? well, the united states says that iran definitely has something to do with it, iran is russia's closest ally , russia is arming iran, russia has not blamed hamas right now, and putin has been saying almost like the pope that the 2 are innocent, but we need to immediately create a palestinian the state, that is , he did not say a word about all the atrocities committed by terrorists, killing, as we can already see, cutting off the heads of children, killing and torturing... women, taking away the elderly people and taking them hostage, obviously, this is the same handwriting and that russia is interested in this too, obviously, that iran is behind it, interested, obviously that they are all allies, too, that is, here i have there is no doubt, look how they are happy about what is happening, how margarita

simonyan is happy about what is happening in israel with these terrorist acts, her husband is there, a whole series of other propagandists, for them it is just a holiday, exactly the same... for these terrorists, therefore definitely this belt of authoritarian evil, he is precisely waging a war with democracies in the whole world, i want to remind you that israel is still a democratic country, the only democratic country in the middle east, and obviously they are also enemies of authoritarian regimes, this axis of evil that has already formed and the consequences of this, formed we already see the axis of evil, ukraine, now we see israel , obviously, this is not the end of what this axis of evil can do , will the deployment of international aid to israel and ukraine help, will it help defeat not only hamas, but also putin , because of those

comments that exist, it seems that for the leaders of western countries, the fate of hamas has already been decided, and the fate of putin is still... not clear and the ultimate goal is not yet putin. but, of course, it is so, so articulated. well, hamas is just a smaller, er, sad sarcasm, because we live in a world , the security architecture of which was formed after the second world war, when the greatest evil was punished, and all the countries that participated in it, despite on the division of the world, nevertheless agreed on certain. the rules of the game so that this evil is not it happened again, and now some of these countries themselves have turned into such a racist, nazi or fascist evil, and because of that, once again, the security architecture must be changed, democratic countries must make decisions together, be the biggest allies

and not take into account the opinion of authoritarian countries, that is, china is also there in the un security council, this is also not the best way, considering the fact that china is not a democratic country today, this is generally nonsense and absurd, and it is obvious that we will not get out of this situation until we realize that ukraine became the first in the struggle for democratic values, for the value of human life in the whole world, we were the first to be attacked, but they were preparing for further attacks, and putin met with tsizimpin, talked about this, about the new division of the world and declared that europe should return to those security borders that were before the 91st year, this means that nato, a member, our, our western allies and neighbors, such as poland, other countries, should not be members of nato, this means that russia and on them wants to regain its influence, and a lot of people do treated everything that was happening lightly, saying that putin simply wants to take over ukraine, it will not concern us

, this is obviously not true, world dictators, authoritarian leaders wanted to control the whole world, first of all subjugating their neighbors, and then attacking and provoking others the time of the world, as in the middle east, all this is a single, so to speak, ensemble of authoritarian leaders, and only after realizing this, after defeating the russian invasion in the east, with which it all began, can we say that democracy will stand and defend itself somewhere, because otherwise the world will turn into simply the hell on earth that we saw in bucha, that we see in the south of israel. let's talk, mr. mykola, about the internal front and the spiritual front, because it's october 5. in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, 226 votes were collected in order to consider the issue of banning the activities of the roc branch in ukraine, before the speaker of the parliament ruslan stefanchuk spoke about the fact that there are no such votes, there are no 226 votes, you as one of the authors of the law on

the banning of activities branches of the russian orthodox church, like you, do you know stefanchuk's reaction to those gathered. 226 votes, and is he going to submit this issue for consideration by the verkhovna rada of ukraine? well , look, stefanchuk presides over the conciliation council meeting, and this is the conciliation council's decision. the conciliation council votes in proportion to the number of votes the factions have there. we have a monomajority. so, the agenda does not depend entirely on stefanchuk, although he is also a nominee of the monobolshe servant of the people faction, but now he is formally outside the party. it depends on the position of the servants of the people. if the words of the people say so, obviously, we bring it into the halls, v we have the votes to vote for it, if their leaders say no, we are against it, then it won't happen, there hasn't been this conciliation council yet, let's watch, although i am grateful... to all people's deputies from all factions, including from the servants of the people who signed these appeals, because it removes arguments from those who say that

there are no votes in the hall. today there was information that the leadership of the security service of ukraine initiated a draft law on expanding the list of grounds for banning religious organizations, providing a legal basis for bans of the uoc of the moscow patriarchate, among these, among the list of these reasons are the commission of crimes against the foundations of national security of ukraine, for violation of the equality of citizens, for participation in terrorist acts, for propaganda of war and participation in it on the side of the aggressor, violation of the laws and customs of war, genocide and employment, what do you think, if you have already seen this bill, what do you think about this bill and to what extent, the bill that you have prepared, how much does it resonate and how much is one of bills, there are currently three of them, that's right, one governmental, one. and now the security service of ukraine initiates?

well, the security service of ukraine asked us to prepare it, i also signed it, i am also a co-sponsor of this project, with my colleagues from the humanitarian committee and not only from many factions, including our european solidarity, we will of course vote for it. but it does not solve the problem, without the adoption of law 821 the russian church in ukraine will continue to operate, i have no doubts here, therefore for this i will vote for the project, the security service. they are well done, they do many useful things in order to protect the security of ukraine, including, we see numerous cases against the hierarchs and clerics of the russian church in ukraine, but at the same time there are tens, and tens of thousands of these hierarchs and the clergy, that is, there are many more of them, so we should ban the activities of this institution in ukraine altogether, which means banning the activities of this institution, not referring to the ukrainian orthodox church, if this group that calls itself the ukrainian orthodox church certifies that they

completely severed relations with the moscow church, left its synod, condemned their anti-ukrainian activities, stopped any communication and any contacts, then they will be able to act in principle absolutely calmly in ukraine, that's my law, but they don't want to to do this and remain part of the russian orthodox church, and this activity definitely poses a real threat to national security. the government law proposes to ban them through the courts with completely incomprehensible... terminology, and it will take a very long time, because we know that we have banned the communist party in 14 or 15, but they went the way of banning it through the courts, and the court made a decision somewhere in 23 after symonenko had already been taken out of ukraine by special forces, all this time this so-called communist party was quietly in ukraine acted or decided to ban them through the courts, they should be banned by law, in accordance with the convention on the protection of human rights, so that we do not have any complaints. on the part of various international institutions, and in order for us to protect the rights of the believers of this church, which is connected to moscow, because if

they will break off relations with moscow, then they will be able to continue going to their churches absolutely calmly, it is only necessary for clear, the bishopric, the hierarchs to break off their relations with moscow, this must be demanded, and not then let the activity stop. over the past six months, mr. mykola, we have seen how parliamentary diplomacy is curtailed, or at least coordinated and managed by the office of the president of ukraine, that is, in order to go to a conference, to an international conference, or abroad, a people's deputy of ukraine must write statement on behalf of ruslan stefanchuk, chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, he then coordinates with the office of the president of ukraine who should go, in what way, in which conferences or events to participate, on the basis of what. there is such a limitation of parliamentary diplomacy, that is, what are the legal grounds for this, why

is this happening, well, look, i don’t know what’s going on, agrees stefanchuk, i only read about it, stefanchuk signs the business trip, and here he is alone signs, one does not, he signs only if there is an invitation from the speaker, although the law says that mps must participate in parliamentary diplomacy absolutely calmly , but parliamentary diplomacy must be distinguished from what some representatives of the servants of the people did when they went to the maldives or thailand, i think so, because we met in lithuania with the president, the prime minister, the chairman of the parliament, and the entire composition of the foreign affairs committee came to us and said, why are you sitting here, you should be in the united states, because the fate of ukraine is decided in the congress and you should work with each congressman, and we eat them we say, no one will let us into congress, and this is where the problem arises, you see, this crisis arose in israel, and right away they started to create a government of national trust, because there is a threat, there is a war, we need to unite everyone, yes it should be the same in our country, it would be necessary to unite all deputies, regardless of

faction, because putin wants to destroy all our factions, maybe with the exception of some natives of the opzh, who are hiding, repainted in other groups, sit, and we should all unite, and the one who has connections in in the united states, he should work in the congress there, someone who has connections in great britain should work there, and in the european union, in the european parliament, our deputies are not allowed to go abroad at all, which means that there is no one to work with congressmen , and congressmen do not vote for aid to ukraine, everything is very simple, this is the essence of parliamentary diplomacy, which operates everywhere in the world, and when we have data... the secretary of the national security council speaks and says that only the president represents us ukraine, er, there, speaker and chairman of the cabinet of ministers, a the rest are tourists, so i have a question, why when the deputies of the european parliament come , we invite them to the guest box and we all applaud, why when the congressmen come, they meet the president, then they also leave as tourists, because if we devalue

our parliamentarians and our parliamentarism and our democracy, then we devalue democracy everywhere in the world, and the whole world sees this and then does not vote for aid to ukraine, because he says: they do not appreciate us, they do not consider us as anyone, but we all parliamentary republic, well, we should vote for the allocation of funds to ukraine, for armed support, but we will not do that, it has terrible consequences, simply terrible consequences for our security, but unfortunately, some of our officials, government officials, they, they simply do not do not have the level of responsibility that should correspond to the positions held, i would simply advise these people to think not just about the instinct of self-preservation, but about the responsibility for the preservation of the people, we must all come together, everyone who works in ukrainian politics, we a parliamentary-presidential republic, this means that first of all the deputies, and the deputies should deal with this, and not run with each other in the hall to fight there and read some security guards, some call centers, it does not fit in my head, how can it be to fall so low and

to lower the level of a parliamentarian to such a level. in ukraine, a country that is struggling, the parliamentarian should be with his colleague in other countries and convince them, help us and show that we are part of a democratic community and fight for other parliaments to accept us, because they will vote for it, they accepted it into nato and accepted it into the european union , the biggest challenge for us right now, and it seems to me that our government in general somehow takes this lightly, not realizing what time they live in, and the very end, mr. mykola, very briefly , zelenskyi has already repeated this several times. that elections are possible in the 24th year, under what conditions such elections can take place? well, only under the conditions that we win, and ukrainian soldiers have the right to participate in voting, ukrainian military personnel to nominate themselves, to participate in elections and as those who vote, and as those who run for certain positions, from the presidency to local self-government bodies, when we

will know how many of our citizens have left for which countries. when we provide for them the opportunity to vote and not through an act that no one in the world will ever recognize, because it is a way to falsify, in a normal way, i do not see the possibility of organizing and holding elections during war. i think this is the opinion with the election during the war, which is very often the far right in the united states are thrown out, these are the republicans, there is a group of far-right republicans , i think that this is still the idea of ​​a russian provocation, because we should now also unite the government of national trust, imagine that, in addition to everything else, we we are holding elections, how much mud will be poured by all politicians and citizens on each other , this can lead to complete destabilization in society, and we should help our army as one, we should go off the air, sorry, thank you, it was mykola knyazhyts, people's deputy ukraine, it was program verdict congratulations serhiy rudenko,

goodbye. what will happen to the gas sector when , after an attack by hamas militants, israel carries out airstrikes on this territory and introduces a total blockade, we are talking about this on bbc news ukraine, live from london, i am yevgenia shedlovska. the number of dead since the beginning of the conflict on both sides has exceeded 15 times. israeli soldiers find the bodies of those killed by militants, while shelling of the gaza strip continues. first, briefly, what happens on the fourth day after the attack of militants hamas group in israel. the israeli army announced that it has fully restored control over the borders with the gaza strip and continues