[000:00:00;00] promotion does not mean that the intensity has decreased, i don't think that the intensity of the fighting has decreased, maybe there is an adjustment of tactics, according to the weapons that we get, and of course, well, not more what is on the surface, it is that everything it is possible now due to the well-known events in the united states, there is a pause or a calculation for a pause in the supply of weapons, or certain changes in logistics there, that may be the case. to be, but this does not mean that nothing happens for a week, and everything is over, nothing is over, there may be tactical changes, tactical, and some such more significant changes by the end of the year, well, i think there will definitely be substantive changes by the end of the year, because the volume of that aid actually depends on it, there is

such a paradox here that on the one hand, ukraine depends on the volume military aid in order to advance further, and on the other hand, the amount of this aid depends on the extent to which our partners see a perspective in the de-occupation of ukrainian territories, so i am personally sure that there will be very substantial changes, they will not just as our partners expected for six months, because by the end of the year, ukrainian troops... will be on the administrative border with crimea, but something very substantial can of course happen, and it certainly will, uh, we are today, after our program on radio liberty, there will be a premiere the era of the investigation about the redut pec, this is a russian pec, please tell me, is there any information in the expert community, what kind of pec is it, what are the plans in the kremlin for this, the so-called pec, of ​​course, this is not a private military campaign, and that's

exactly what i want today. ours will tell about it colleagues, but nevertheless, is this some special group of redoubts, or are they ordinary mercenaries , well, as far as i’ve heard about it, they have existed for a long time, and when wagner started, the redoubt started somewhere right away, well, wagner started right away, that’s what that putin called them not there, they are not there, it was wagner, but somewhere around the same time , such a group of redoubts appeared, as i understand it, it is more. much older in the sense of personnel, that is, they are mercenaries, but more, well, at that time they were so elitist that now, well, now in general there are a lot of such in russia companies and all of them do not exist, as putin himself said, because there in russia, just like in our country, such private companies are prohibited , so how do they exist, well, as informal

associations, as divisions, sections of military intelligence with a special logistics, which is also special financing, which is not built in the same way, not just from the budget, but there a whole network is created in order to launder funds for these companies, but i think, in general, the situation remains the same, wagner did not justify there were trusts, mercenaries in their pure form, plus criminality, and the redoubt is such... an elite group , it must have remained due to the situation in russia, british intelligence today wrote about the fact that in november, so far, such an unofficial but pre-election campaign in russia is preparing for the presidential elections, please tell me , and how can this campaign, in the form in which it did not begin, directly affect the war, mobilization, and other things that

are directly related to the war in ukraine? there will obviously be no mobilization until the elections, and this means that russia will insist on everything by means of pressure, wherever possible, to start, as they say, negotiations, to force ukraine to stop hostilities, de-occupation and start negotiations, because they are taking a lot of risk, in general, the entire russian economy, one might even say, it depends on whether their front will fall or not, they have now calculated that they will last until the presidential elections, will last without mobilization, without, and they will have enough manpower, because russia now has a big problem with manpower, due to the war on the one hand , on the other hand through defense industry, which works in three shifts, so if ukraine is successful in deoccupation, russia will face a very difficult

problem. to carry out an unpopular mobilization, because it will be unpopular, it will destroy this whole idea of ​​elections, this whole political project of presidential elections, and... on the other hand, it will have a very strong impact on the russian economy, so i think they will try , well, keep seizing the territory and insist through all your hybrid means to influence the fact that, well , to stop aid to ukraine and force ukraine, to force us to abandon the offensive, but i think this will not happen, i have the last question, does it already concern the war in israel? we will now talk about it in more detail, but i have a question for you, how can the war in israel affect the war in ukraine? well, in general, we can only confidently say that we and israel will become, we will become closer, russia and israel will become a little further,

the distance will increase there, but i think that there is such a direct connection, well here, here it is simply difficult to say, on the other hand, here is the convergence with with israel it is positive, well, it is enough to say that the rapprochement with israel, which azerbaijan made, it was, well, very useful for him, it was a very powerful change in his, well, in his strategic goals, the same for ukraine, but tactically everything can be , whatever, because of course we understand that international aid, well, it is limited, and many of our partners will now decide. how to rebuild international aid, or in one package ukraine, ukraine, israel, and possibly taiwan, or separate packages, and there are certain risks here, but i

i think, in general, the situation will not get worse for us, i understand you, oleksiy ezhyk, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, was on radio liberty, we talked about the situation on the ukrainian front, how it can change and how the war in israel can affect the war in ukraine, thank you very much. the israeli army has regained full control over the border with the gaza strip, the wall street journal writes that israel is preparing for a ground offensive and is driving tanks and soldiers to the border of the gaza strip. aircraft carrier the us strike group will deter iran, lebanese hezbollah and other potential allies of hamas. tsakhal snipers are training on the slopes of the hills, waiting for the order - the newspaper reports. well. israel's air force said it was repatriating hundreds of israelis living there from europe to fill the ranks of reservists , israel is expected to launch a major ground operation in the gas sector, the evening before, in an address to the country,

israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu said that there were airstrikes in the gas sector just the beginning the four-day war has already claimed around 2,000 civilian lives on both sides. the israeli authorities announced more than 1,000 dead and almost 3,500 wounded, among the dead in this war also, by the way, there are two citizens of ukraine, and the terrorist group hamas also holds up to 150 people captive, including people with dual citizenship and threatens to lose them, some of these people were captured at a music festival in israel that was fired upon by hamas militants, at least 260 people who came to the festival, he took place just near the border of the gas sector. so these people were killed and we will tell you more about this episode in this war later. the supernova festival in the negev desert near the gaza strip gathered several thousand

visitors. people danced under the stars all night from october 6 to 7, already in the afternoon , several dozen hamas fighters stormed it from the gaza strip. after the israel defense forces take control of the place again. no less than 260 bodies will be found on the territory, the music festival has become the bloodiest mass murder since the holocaust, israel believes. footage of armed militants shooting at festival participants, those trying to escape and those hiding were caught on cctv cameras. we will not show you these episodes for obvious reasons, the video shows how later the terrorists search the bodies of the killed, as well as the car and suitcases with personal belongings. the terrorists had a few hours before the israeli army arrived there. here is what

those who managed to survive say about these events. elad hakim recalls how the festival turned from heaven to hell in a matter of seconds. he and his friends were running away from a party when armed terrorists were already crossing the nearby army base. on the road there were men on motorcycles with kalashnikov assault rifles, who started shooting at us when we were driving, i drove past them at a speed of 180-190 km/h, we all lowered our heads, bullets were flying, and... and the windows were open , so that they do not crash in our faces if we survive them. the horror began, the vehicles behind us could no longer pass, because there were 14 more motorcyclists, not just the two we encountered and started shooting. the cars that were behind us stayed there. another israeli, sahar bensela weeps as he recalls the events at the festival. seriously, this is hell. i have never seen anything like it. i have been to two wars in my life. and never seen anything like

it, bodies everywhere a real carnage, they did n't care if you were male or female, young or old, they were killers and what they did can never be forgiven. one of the organizers of the festival saw how his colleague and party members were killed and taken prisoner, he says: even animals were shot. children, old people, anyone, they stopped at nothing, all from animals. they cut people indiscriminately. such cruelty. i didn't think there was an animal or a person on earth that could be like that. a war between soldiers, but girls, abuse of girls' bodies, children, whole families, they just stopped at nothing. everything was a target for them. they came to kill. hamas militants captured an unknown number of civilians and

soldiers during their invasion of israel and contained them in the gaza strip, videos with such footage are posted on social networks by the militants themselves, one of them shows how the terrorists are carrying a confused young israeli woman on a motorcycle, relatives recognized 25-year-old noa arghamani as it is claimed that the militants are leading her partner avinatan. a hamas-affiliated channel later released a video purporting to show noir hamani sitting on a couch drinking water. this was reported by the astra channel with reference to noa's friend. fighters captioned this video as "a soldier in the gas, where she and her partner are now unknown. the exact number of people who were captured by terrorists at the supernova festival is still unknown. olga armyanyshina, radio liberty. well, in turn, the palestinian side reported about 770, as of now, the dead as a result of the strikes of the israeli army on the gaza sector and about 400 wounded. according to the latest data of the un agency, which works with palestinian refugees, more than 1870. in the gaza sector have become forcibly displaced and how their

the number will increase. just this morning, israel advised residents of gaza to leave the sector through the rafah checkpoint, which is on the border with egypt, but shortly after that it was reported that the point was not working, as reported by reuters, sources in the egyptian security services, the vicinity of the rafah checkpoint was hit by an airstrike. so, on the one hand, israel calls on the palestinians to leave the gas sector and not be a target, on the other. it looks like the civilian population of gaza is practically deprived of the opportunity to get out of there. and international the human rights organization human right watch called the complete siege of the gaza sector a collective punishment and a war crime. well, the day before , israel's defense minister announced that he had ordered a complete siege of the gaza strip. at the same time , human rights watch also noted that the killings and attacks by hamas terrorists on civilians in israel and taking them hostage are also a war

crime. our broadcast was joined live by vira, literally physically in the studio, vira kostiantynova, an international political scientist, i i will also say for our audience that you are a middle eastern expert. good evening. good evening, good. first , you know, i will start with the news coming from europe, for example, the head of diplomacy of the european union, josep borel, invited an emergency meeting of the ministers of foreign affairs of the european union. regarding this situation in israel, i have this, you know, a very simple question, and what can the european union do, on the european continent, the war in ukraine and they, they will try, but sometimes it doesn’t work, everything you want, yes, and what can they do make for israel, for palestine, how can they solve this situation, well, you know, first of all, we have to understand that for the european union, for the diplomacy of the european union, there is now a dilemma, because on the one hand, a lot of funding, the european commission, has been allocated to palestine , and some countries

of the european union allocated funding for palestinian refugees, and on the other hand, what the terrorist group hamas did, well, to put it mildly, raises the question, in general, was it worth sponsoring and was there any at all send money for palestinian refugees, because this money could , from the point of view of the analysis, be used for such tragic and war crimes that hamas committed when it invaded israel, and now the question is whether the meeting will actually come participants are invited to this meeting, it is understood, and to speak. side and the israeli side, it seems to me that most likely not, me too, well, according to my personal conviction, here, except until israel ends the war,

it is unlikely to be possible to have any kind of dialogue, because now each its sides are bleeding wounds, and now it seems to me very difficult to talk about something constructive, but i do not rule out that there will be attempts to somehow diplomatically stop this situation, but whether european diplomacy will be able to, here is a big question, but listen, it looks like no country wants to end the war, well, at least israel for sure, and not only israel, because again, i say, an unprecedented attack that horrified, probably, the entire world community and at the same time the palestinian side there, the palestinians who go to the rallies... support in european countries, absolutely indicates that the parties are not just not ready to talk to each other, they are in absolutely diametrically opposed positions, well, if we bring it a little closer to our reality, this is the same thing that we have been offered now after all that

what russia has done, talk to them in some way, that's why i think now it is necessary to understand how much further this situation will... deepen, because the risks of hizballah and iran interfering directly in this war are real, and therefore the american side sent the relevant forces, i don't know if you have an answer to this question, but i will ask, let's discuss, here we see that human rights organizations are already directly accusing israel of war crimes, hamas is also accused of war crimes, but hamas is a recognized terrorist, terrorist group, please tell me, but where is the line between defense and war crimes in this case, if we are talking about the war in israel? a very correct question, because i was trying to understand for myself, which one the position is comfortable for me, as an analyst, an expert and at the same time a person, yes , the main rule, it seems to me, is a very fine line between, between the right of a nation to self-determination, to

self-defense, as for ukraine, we defend ourselves, we apply 51 ooon article, we were attacked, and on the other hand, what hamas did, even a festival, where it is still impossible to establish the final number of killed, just killed, civilians, so the line between terrorism and the right to self-defense is very small and very fine, and you know, it is important to understand that from the point of view international law is now war crimes, what hamas has committed as a terrorist organization , and what will now be as a response... to aggression, we know that gaza is very densely populated, more than 2 million people, suddenly, densely populated sector, absolutely correct, and a plus , for example, do you remember, we had a discussion about bomb shelters, right? are these bomb shelters accessible to civilians,

or are these bomb shelters available exclusively to hamas fighters, where they store their, their weapons, where they hide from plaques of israeli aviation, that is, the issue is that the palestinian population has actually become a hostage of certain religious leaders and fanatics who say that international law should be imposed there by force, inna, let's talk about hamas, i am sure that in our audience there are many questions, they exist, but you are shy to ask them, because they will think that you do not understand something, let's talk about hamas, hamas has a military wing, both military and political. wing and as far as i understand, the political wing is real politicians who were legitimately elected by the palestinians? let's probably start with the main one, that there are actually two political factions in palestine, and palestine, as understood by the palestinian people, is very well known in ukraine,

the palestine liberation organization and fatah, which is a very well-known historical figure yasser arafat, and hamas as and the political party and the paramilitary at the same time, because there are alkam brigades, and the political faction hamas, which won the 2006 elections in the gas sector, and at the same time in 2007 completely seized power in the gas sector. we also have the west bank of the jordan river, where the palestinian authority is actually located, headed by president mahmoud abbas, and here we have a very interesting situation, from a point of view, if you try to somehow adapt it to political dimensions, because hamas sets as its goal the complete the destruction of the israeli state, that is, there is absolutely a person of hatred here. rhetoric with a religious component, in turn, the organization of the liberation of palestine

has been fighting with the same terrorist methods for a long time, and once in the 90s, when yasir arafat understood that this is a hopeless path, it leads nowhere, the so -called oslo accords were signed in the 1990s and 1994, and then in the 1994s came the mutual recognition of the rights of the palestinian people by israel and the palestinians. and at the same time there was recognition as an israeli state, but we understand that not everything would be so simple if third countries did not intervene there, and hamas, for obvious reasons, even has some of its regional centers, and you will be surprised, one of them in such a famous place, tehran, the islamic republic of iran, by the way, iran supports hamas in every way, despite the fact that iran is the majority there, we know , shiites, and hamas is a sunni organization, a radical islamic organization, and therefore, well,

it just removes all these manipulations regarding that iran supports exclusively shiite movements there, or islamic jihad and hamas there, in principle, they are the same, from the same field of berries, and at the same time, islamic jihad has a pronounced support of iran, hamas obviously also does not mind having some affairs with iran. here is faith, if you have already conducted some certain analogies between the situation in ukraine, the war in ukraine and the war in israel, they compared russia, ukraine, palestine, israel, do i understand correctly that the majority of the population of palestine supports hamas, in this armed aggression, attacks, will it be wrong , it is incorrect to say, you know, it is very incorrect to compare our situations in general, because the more... we delve deeper into some historical parallels, the worse the picture emerges, because

we have a state in ukraine, we protect it, we we apply article 51 of the statute the un in terms of self-defense, russia is an aggressor country, from the point of view, if you relay it to palestinian issues, we have the state of israel, which was founded in 1948, the day of the foundation of the state of israel for the community and for the palestinian people is the day of al-nakba, that is, when there was a mass eviction of the palestinians of the palestinian people, and then these very un agencies were formed to deal with the consequences of the eviction of the palestinians from the territory of palestine, and this is a very sensitive situation, because i say, i try to hear both parties, and that is what is in hamas, in fact, it has now buried the idea of ​​two states for many years to come, and now, when they send me

videos of destruction from the gaza strip, mosques there, the killing of civilians, i understand very well that this is well, it's called a response to the atrocities committed by hamas, and here each side talks, which worries me a lot, talks about international law. violence, as a guide of international law, does not remind you and me of anything, so i say, well, because of the fact that certain parallels are asked, parallels can be asked from the point point of view, it seems to me that this is a communicative-narrative discourse, because it is certainly a contributor and a beneficiary, i am absolutely in solidarity with many of our experts who say that the main contributor and beneficiary is russia, why? because destabilization in the middle east since 50 years. more or less, there were two intifadas, indeed, the palestinian people announced actions of defiance, there were terrorist

acts, if we talk about the same hamas, hamas appeared just after the first intifada, in the year 87, it seems, then, we understand, there was an attempt at dialogue, there is a quartet of countries , which, by the way, includes russia, in order to settle the arab-israeli conflict on the basis of international law, on the basis of the resolution of the un general assembly regarding the decision of the two states, and here, in a strange way, russia bears colossal reputational losses in ukraine, russia bears colossal financial losses, and here for 50 years, somehow everything was more or less, well, i can't say, it's stable, because there are americans about it they say in their analytical reports that there were precedents of terrorist attacks from the outside. palestinian militants, and there were, of course, that there, you remember, recently, just that

year, a photo of a palestinian journalist who worked in the gas sector , who was shot by israeli security forces, whether by accident or not , there was already an investigation, there was, the truth was being established, so at that stage of the world system, yes, until february 24, the world tried somehow to imprison the two sides, until there were such mass victims, while these are all flashbacks, as many experts noted, flashbacks about the holocaust and flashbacks about the expulsion about some tragic events in the history of the palestinian people, all this was a little dulled, now the israeli military is absolutely talking about the israeli 9:11, well, there they draw parallels with terrorist acts and the scale of destruction, human casualties and disasters, which

took place on september 11 in the united states of america. vera, please tell me. and what is the reputation of hamas in the arab world? there are many arab states, you know, i wondered today, i thought, why in the arab world does not have a leader who would somehow intervene in the situation, call hamas, and somehow persuade them , firstly, to surrender their weapons, and secondly, in principle, why in this region none of the arab countries somehow didn't try to maintain, well, a certain order, i don't know, you know, i think that here ... we really need a three-hour lecture on how the arab countries react, first of all, to what is happening in israel, because individual countries convened organizations of islamic islamic cooperation and there a league of the arab states in order to somehow develop a common position, that is, a common position, it looks as follows, that this

is all, this, that is, the attack on israel, provoked by the violation of the rights of the palestinian people, the violation of the resolution of the international resolutions of the united nations organization, regarding the right of the palestinian people to their own state, and further down the list, at the same time none, none of the parties, well, what really bothers me is when international law is put on the same level as violence, violence as a tool solving the problem on the basis of what the united nations has set there. and this is the new normality, it seems to me, because if we talk , remember, about the texts, yes, the precedents that russia tried to create in order to have the legal right to invade ukraine, so international law actually does not work thanks to russia , and feeling this,

the concept of controlled chaos, russia is now trying to sponsor. screw up, excuse me, banal, yes, engage in inciting inter-ethnic, inter-religious enmity, no only in the middle east, if we digress a little, as they say, if we recall even the situation with karabakh, so between azerbaijan and armenia, while russia had some image and military-political power before the invasion of ukraine, nagorno- karabakh and karabakh as the karabakh issue could not be resolved in principle. because the parties believed that there were so-called russian peacekeepers, although i call them conflict-makers, they are very experts in this, they did not allow to go to a real diplomatic politician of a diplomatic settlement of the situation, yes, the same situation seems to me to be very indicative in the issues of the near east, because as you know , the state of israel, through its cooperation with russia,

had some tools to prevent such threats, because even many experts, politicians, israeli politicians are talking about the fact that something happened, why did the israeli intelligence not warn about it , but it seems to me that there are even more fundamental things here, because the manipulation of international law, twisting it as it is desirable for a particular party, is an absolute a chip of russian diplomacy now, and the fact that the leaders of hamas...' and the leaders of the taliban are the same, the absolute hand is clasped in moscow - this is a very revealing element of moscow's general strategy now, well, not to defeat ukraine in europe, they can't, well they strive to defeat us, but at the same time they understand that for now, you know, today is just today,