under occupation, maybe that's why the girl doesn't get in touch, that's why i'm asking everyone, especially the residents of the left bank of kherson region, who may be watching this program on social networks. look carefully at the photo of darina zhurravel and try to remember her face. if someone suddenly sees a 16-year-old girl, or you know her possible whereabouts, do not hesitate and immediately call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service with the short number 11630. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if there is no opportunities to get in touch by phone, write to the chatbot of the child search service in telegram. any information is important. i also want to remind you that we are continuing the search for 16-year-old karina kanivets, also from the kherson region. her mother told us about the girl's disappearance. imagine, for more than five

months, a woman does not know anything about the fate of her daughter, i have turned everywhere i can, i am already screaming as much as i can, this is how they tied my hands and told me to swim, here i am at the moment in such a situation , it so happened that karina's parents separated long before the start of the war and lived separately, the girl lived with her mother on a permanent basis, but on the eve of the full-scale invasion she was with her father and when the russians entered, she ended up in the occupied territory, from time to time, the woman says, she checked in with her daughter on social networks, but in april communication with karina mysteriously broke off. the girl stopped logging into her accounts and no one knows where she is now. i have already written everywhere, even here on this territory to search for a child, because i don’t know where to shout, how to find i can't have a child, i'm an adequate mother, for me a child is my life. karina kanivets' mother is currently also in the occupied territory, but... continues to do everything in

her power to find her daughter. i want to appeal to everyone who saw, or who knows something about my child, who went missing and stopped coming out since april 2023, this is karina igorevna konevets, date of birth 08/09/2007, if anyone has seen does karina kanivets know anything about her possible whereabouts, no... and immediately contact the magnolia child tracing service at the short number 11630, calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free, if suddenly there is no connection and it is not possible to call us, write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram. i am asking my beloved child, she will see, hear me, so that she will respond, i am really looking forward to this, thank you to everyone who can help. this is

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andriy kurkov, a writer. mr. andriy, good day to you, i congratulate you. actually, mr. andriy said to introduce him as a writer, and you know that. modesty is not the greatest virtue in the modern world, but i think it is still worth adding that mr. andriy is probably one of the most famous ukrainian writers, especially abroad, and well, there is such a thing, there is such a thing, well, there is such a thing. well, this is this is a fact, and probably, in fact, that's why mr. andrii's voice is heard very often and also abroad, and this is exactly the topic i wanted to focus on today, eh... this topic is not simple, it is the topic of how we work with russian softpower, m' what a force that is , which acts simultaneously both in the world as a whole and in ukraine itself, i would like to analyze this story a little, in particular the story that recently had such a resonance,

had such a certain even scandalous, let's say , echo, in which , in which mr. andriy kurkov also participated, this one, it seems to me, that one no less important, it really needs to be discussed, in my opinion, mr. andrii, are you comfortable talking about it, i am comfortable, i am comfortable talking about everything, i would start by saying that, are we now, in principle, reaching such an understanding that we have to speak on any platforms, on any topics, including talking about russians, including talking about ukraine, even... where russians are also present. what is your own position? i will remind, just very briefly, such a background, this is the story when you agreed to meet on

on the same platform with masha hesen, she is already an american citizen, as far as i know, but, a russian journalist who, you know, masha hesen, an american... citizen since 1981, and to be honest, it seemed like 5 years to me , and she was already an american citizen, yes. for him, although, for her, no, for them, i know for a fact that she is not a binary personality, not so long ago, so here you also need not to get confused with the correct representation, i know that your colleagues are enough, some, your colleagues reacted quite harshly to your decision, and so did i i know that you have already explained why you did not refuse this meeting, this conversation on the same platform, can you tell me why? you know, the situation that happened

in may of this year, in new york, it was really unpleasant and unacceptable for the ukrainian participants, i will remind you a little about what it is about, that is, two ukrainian servicemen, artem cheh and artem chapai, as well as our writers, came to speak at the new york festival organized by peno. and american, they knew and agreed that masha would be the moderator hesyn, but they did not know that the organizers had decided to invite two more russian political emigrants, one historian and one journalist to this panel, and then, when they found out, the ukrainian participants, military personnel, said that they were not allowed, the ministry forbade them to speak with the russians, and not the military personnel said that

if they appeared on the panel with the russians, they would not be allowed back to ukraine, ugh, and thus the organizers took the meeting with the russians outside the festival, it took place in a smaller format and with a different the audience, the ukrainian participants performed by themselves, without the russians, masha hesen reacted emotionally and not very correctly, that is, she resigned from the post of vice president of the american pen club, the pen center, and somewhere in the comments they said that ukrainian writers are very cruel to ee russians, until the opportunity to speak with russians, er, and in principle, after that she was terminated in ukraine, my ukrainian colleagues. that's why there was a reaction to the fact that i agreed

to talk with her, eh, especially since she was constantly criticized that in her interviews everywhere says that this is putin's war, not the war of the russians, ugh, well, in principle, the choice was this, either they will talk about ukraine, without ukrainians and in this case without my participation, or i will participate and will... if not to agree, speaks about it, well, indeed, during the meeting, she repeated this thesis that this is putin's war, i explained and argued why this is the war of russia and the russian people, and not putin, she publicly agreed, in the end with that , that i am right, and, that is, the transcript of this conversation is in ukrainian... on the internet, a journalist from the babel publication was present at the meeting, she recorded everything, then

took a short interview from me, and after that i got what i got, and that's why my recorded video dialogue with jonathan franzen was canceled at the lviv forum, uhu, who was supposed to open the lviv forum, that is, you are not present at the lviv forum precisely because of this? i'm not there, yes, do you think that's unfair? i don't think anything, i think that now, to give an assessment of what is happening, there is no sense, but there is, that is, it was a demand of the community, which was satisfied, and in principle, if the community is satisfied with this result, then everything is fine , let's talk about this position again , your point is that if we do not sit in the same space with the russians and do not talk, including about us and about them, in fact, we simply give them this site for safety.

i am not saying that you should talk to russians, to all russians and so on , that is, for america, masha gesin is not russian, that is, no one perceives her as russian, but i believe that there are cases, especially when this the audience is very important for ukraine, and the meeting took place in toronto, and the audience was very serious, including representatives, one might say , of the country's top leadership, so i believe that at such meetings, the voice of ukraine should be heard, i.e. .. such scenes cannot be given to russians or to people who are connected to russia , from your own feelings, does the attitude towards ukraine and russia change in principle, well , we understand that russia on these platforms, relatively speaking, on university grounds, in the faculties of slavic studies, which

in fact, were more russian studies departments all this time, it is always present, it has been present for decades and it builds its narratives, imperial, non-imperial , nihilistic, whatever, but it remains there, and what do we have to do to change it, can we try to cancel russian culture both abroad and in russia, is this not a naive attempt, you know, our attempts to cancel all russian culture, they are exposed to the misunderstanding of almost the entire... western intellectual community, those who speak now on platforms about ukraine in the west, those who are allowed on these platforms are not representatives of russia, but they perfectly understand the ukrainian position, and they look there, in fact, as victims of

ukrainian hate, and this actually causes sympathy. and some such emotions are not at all what ukrainians would like in this situation, regarding universities , russian studies have lost their popularity, and now, well, not now, already in the last five years the number of students who want to study russian has fallen sharply language, literature there or something else, ugh, in universities, the departments of russian studies are simply renamed to the departments of slavic studies there and eastern european languages ​​and cultures there, this process is ongoing and will continue, but the more often we will loudly bang on the door, in situations where we have to choose, speak

whether or not to speak at the same platform, whether to participate or not to participate in the same festival or in the same conference, all the more will be the image of a victim in those with whom the ukrainians did not want to talk, and it will already be about the internal relationship between russia and ukraine, and it is not that we at least convey some of our theses and our thoughts about the war, about russian culture, about the role of russian culture in this war, there are actually different platforms where representatives can interact. of ukraine and russia abroad now, the simplest example is, of course, athletes, that is, when our athletes and russian athletes, but who perform under a neutral flag, the so-called, can meet in the same arena and compete for each other and the same awards, and we had a different position from the fact that we boycott any competitions

where russians are present, to the fact that we participate where... russians are present, but they are, at least under a neutral flag, or can this be extrapolated to other areas, to cultural, for some cultural events and for cultural figures, you know , sooner or later, we will have to choose some russians with whom we can talk, because in fact, ukrainians began to be invited less and less to literary... and to conferences, and here, one of the largest literary festivals is the berlin international festival in september did not invite any ukrainian author, but invited three representatives of the russian opposition to take part in the discussions, this situation will be repeated, i think we

will witness that we will be less willing to listen, because in fact we, we speak the truth, but we we speak the same truth, without, without evolution, without development of thought, that is, we simply cancel and say that there are no good russians, we show our wounds, we want sympathy and help, yes, there is sympathy, help will decrease, i know already from my own experience, two examples when, at ukrainian events, the organizers... er asked not to announce the collection of aid for ukraine for humanitarian purposes. that is, we have already worn out a little bit of all of them with our monotonous position, so this is it in principle, it is a collective reaction, because it is a collective reaction both to and to the fact that we are slamming the door, and to the fact that

we demand and ask, and we, in fact, sometimes impose our thoughts on the foreign audience, which they do not accept because of their own values, their own understanding of democracy, and so on, well, we hear. really used in in this history, we are heard by those on whose side of justice we demand it, or do we have the right to demand it, we have the right to demand in principle any justice, but we are reminded that we did not take the side of other countries when others countries attacked and when other countries demanded justice and asked for help, and this is not only about rwanda, it is about many other situations, because we are, in principle, normal, selfish people who were always focused on our own

lives, on our own problems, on their own thoughts about our own future in our country, we are now, we are now living, excuse me for interrupting, we are now living in such a situation where we have enough efforts, at least to build a unified narrative within the country, and it is obvious that we, you said this phrase, and that the participants in may, of this, of this discussion, those who were not military, said that they simply would not be allowed back to ukraine, this is actually, it surprised people, both the organizers and those who they heard it, i won't name names, and it was a little unpleasant for our diplomats, that's why that we are not north korea, nevertheless. we also have reverse stories, when a lot of cultural figures or politicians do not have the opportunity to go abroad, having been invited even to some international events?

yes, this is an internal political problem, this is a continuation of the political struggle inside the country during the war, this is in principle a separate topic that is also very unpleasant and that we do not really want to affect abroad, but the question is also that there is a desire to establish some kind of unified... . a narrative, some kind of unified narrative, so that everyone, including the writers, er, somewhere acted very unanimously, synchronously and in unison, there is some kind of practical or ethical point here, it is that your colleagues, maybe the center’s sleep, they, for example, decided, i understand, there was some kind of decision that we are boycotting masha hessen, or not, it's not, in fact, it's a conditional general decision, i think the majority. ukrainian intellectuals and writers, which is not written down, and which, people who adhere to this decision, they demand that everyone

obey this decision, in principle, i do not want to talk about collectivism again now, which manifests in this and about another thing, that is, there is a difference between collectivism and solidarity, ugh, is not one hundred percent mandatory, and solidarity, it requires, in principle, an analytical approach to each individual case, when questions arise, to do it or not to do it, and of course, in such a situation, in a war situation, any situation, which goes beyond the boundaries of what everyone considers to be correct behavior, it causes conflict. this was the case with buloch andruhovych when he met with mykhailo shishkin, this was the case with oksana zabushka when she allowed to publish

the russian translation of his work in england, this happened to me, this will happen to others, that is, in principle, this is not a unique situation, you know, when you talk to people who reacted very painfully, for example, to the story with you hessen, or to the story with that swiss citizen... of russian origin and writer and andruhovich, do you remember this meeting too, and - i very often hear arguments that say, although we understand that most people in this country do not know much about andruhovich, and for sure and i can't even remember it now swiss writer of russian origin, yes, from memory, and this means that, in principle, teshkin, yes, shishkin, shishkin is correct, therefore, therefore, the influence actually on some... large masses is insignificant, but there is always an argument , that if conditionally speaking, it is possible to meet with hesse, also the influence of hesse on russia, i also think, well, absolutely

minimal person from... 81, a citizen of the united states, i do not think that she is a very influential person there for her hated there, in fact, much more than they hated her in ukraine, in fact, and, but the argument is that if you can, for example, talk to hesen in kurkovo, then why can’t potap, well, a conditional potap of some kind there, can’t record some kind of collab with someone there, i don’t know, what are the names of all those russian rappers, well , who is with some of the russian rappers now? during the war, why not, in the end, in such a case, it is also a question of where it leads us, it leads us to the fact that we have just recently, only we are happy that we have russian musical compositions there, for example, on youtube somewhere below 10th place, perhaps, and us we understand that we simply need some kind of repulsion for the masses, repulsion from russian, this soft power here in ukraine, and it seems to me that all the time, with such a ricochet or

echo of these stories that somewhere there, high-ranking ukrainian intellectuals, somewhere there sit down for one table with russian intellectuals, good ones, russians of various degrees, this is always a story also about the fact that we are afraid, no matter how much , it will not, you know, not return our common people to russian culture and russian influences, i think all intelligent people understand that return back to relations with russia, any, cultural or otherwise, there will not be and will not be communication of russians with ukrainians two generations after the war and just as it happened between the soviet people and the germans, although the germans changed under the influence of the american occupation and re-education . russians will not be occupied and reeducated by anyone, they can only change themselves, and in my opinion the only way and

opportunity for them to change is if china democratizes, and they are now determined to watch and copy everything china is doing, then they can also democratize behind china , but no one knows when that will happen, ugh, but to be afraid that some new russian-ukrainian relations will appear, which will expand, become more active and be used by russia, this is this, this in principle, utopia, that is, it is clear that this will not happen, and meetings that can take place a couple of times a year with someone who is either of russian origin, but is our supporter, is in principle a defender of ukraine and ukrainian interests in this war , they do not bring russia closer, in fact, bring russia closer to

in ukraine, they, rather, show the west that ukrainians do not isolate themselves, that is, they respect those who support them and hate those who fight with them, that is, they want such european rationality from us in that matter, of course, but of course it should not be expected until the end of the war, or maybe some years after the war. nevertheless, if we say who we are talking to, theoretically, perhaps, there is something tempting in this thesis to say that there are no good russians and anyone who is russian is, accordingly, unacceptable to us, but is this a good thesis, or do we have to, and by the way, how then to calculate who is russian and who is not russian, the same masha gesen, as far as she is a russian man, is she an american of soviet-jewish origin, whom her parents

raised. .. from the soviet union, it is literally the same thing that can be said, for example, about president zelensky, only to say that he is a ukrainian, instead of an american, yes, yes, and this is a question that there must be some kind of gradation here, that is, for you there are some russians, for example, writers, with whom you would not sit down alone, at the same table, not in canada, not in the united states, not anywhere, well, i think 99.9 percent, especially after i read, an open letter supporting putin and his war in ukraine, signed five hundred, russian writers, there were many of your acquaintances there, with whom you spent a good time, thank god there, thank god, there were no acquaintances there, nevertheless, if we take even such people as chhaartishvili himself, and akunin ,