in the palestinian-israeli conflict, let's hear what he said. it is necessary to unite the forces of good, that is why i appeal to you, as the president and a permanent member of the un council, to take the initiative for a cessation, a real ceasefire and a real solution to the palestinian problem. well, putin also spoke at the same forum, let's listen. the problem today is due to the established mechanisms of regulation, but the united states has neglected these mechanisms for the past few years and decided to regulate everything on its own, not using these mechanisms, in recent years they have made a bet on satisfying, well, the material needs of the population living in the palestinian... territories, in fact,

they have tried to replace the solution of fundamental political problems with some kind of material handouts, mr. valery, when putin talks about that these, as he says, have been replaced by fundamental political issues, well, he obviously means the establishment of a palestinian state, because he has been saying for the last few days that the un security council should look at this issue and to consider the issue of the creation of a palestinian state, let's explain to our viewers why there is a conflict between hamas or at least an attack by hamas on israel, and why putin constantly talks about the creation of this palestinian state, and what it threatens or what consequences it will have for the current world and especially , who will leave? if you want

to sanctify such a question, well, in short, hamas is a separate story, it is terror, now the west bank of herod is the second part of the palestinian state, controlled by command, and a more moderate fact, and the fact is not, does not attack israel , that is, the autonomous region exists peacefully, for today , a paradox, yes, that is, putin is fanning the conflict, palestinian, israeli, arab-israeli, and the usa wants to stop it, putin is acting insidiously, he wants, he really wants, to sow chaos and raise the arab countries of israel, then the disappearances, in fact, there are un programs financed by the usa, china,

financed by russia, and russia knows very well that with these financing programs in the territory of the sector gas, food, humanitarian, russia has brought its agents there, russia has brought here through international organizations, its presence, they understand it perfectly , so don't believe it, he is a liar, he clearly understands that he wants to sow chaos, he wants, his words are roughly like this, you thought decide for yourself ? this is a question and you managed to already start talks with saudi arabia to somehow settle the situation, the arab world began to decide that it is necessary to give israel the opportunity to develop peacefully, and here suddenly comes putin, who sows chaos, and then offers the usa to share this responsibility, that's it, the position is clear, let me go there again, because i can kill her, but i can also stop hamas.

you can read this, dear iraq, i told you that there is also a difficult situation in iraq, and anything can develop there, so putin's goal is to inflame the arab-israeli conflict, and there is no such conflict today, there is an attack by hamas terrorists , who do not recognize palestinian autonomy by the government against the state of israel, that's all, everything russia wants, they feel great. when there are conflicts, when there is war, conflicts, then they happen more useful, in dialogue with the united states, and the goal is very simple, we, the united states, help you stop the war in the middle east, and you leave it to us, to distract ukraine, that's all, that's how we are, well, that is, as far as i understand, this is the principle of 90 -x, when they came to some company, created problems for someone there, then another group came, which... said, listen, you

have some kind of conflict there, let's solve everything now, well, that is, putin is acting in the role of a kind of world leader decided, well, in the middle east, because the prime minister, of iraq, who from... iran, which appealed to him, and the representatives of parts of the arab countries who also play along with putin, they are now trying to legitimize him on the international political arena and create the image of such a peacemaker whose blood is in his blood, just ukrainian blood, and now he will be to decide something there, under what conditions, that is. peacekeeping function, putin's peacekeeping function can be somehow perceived in private, or the aircraft carrier group that arrived on the shores of israel is putin's response to efforts to inflame

the arab-israeli conflict even more and drag it into already the countries that are part of the league of arab countries and turn the middle east into hell? and so it is, in principle, now we are holding meetings with the league of arab countries and with the countries of the region, er, you know that the arab countries also have certain differences in their attitude towards israel, for some, such as hamas chisbala, those groups, which are not just terrorists, they control certain territories, that is, it is a kind of quasi-state, i would say , because to say that it is just some group... small terrorist, it is not like that, 2 million inhabitants there, and many of them take participation in these attacks, therefore, in principle, the desire is for states to get involved additionally, then, taking into account the influence and presence

of russian mercenaries, well, as we say, wagnerites, although there are other groups in syria, and the influences that have remained since the soviet era in region, namely russia , they then want to offer their services, but the value of such offers will increase as the conflict in the middle east escalates , god willing, it will end quite quickly, well, obviously, it does not look like days, this is already according to the statement of the minister defense of israel, they will act to destroy the base of hamas and their missile production, it will take a long enough period, and if other countries do not intervene , which the usa has sternly warned about, then perhaps it will stop somewhere in the coming weeks and months, but if it succeeds, god forbid it will spread

the arab-israeli conflict, then of course putin will rub his hands, then objectively , russia has influence on some countries, hope and then the americans will be forced to conduct a direct dialogue with all parties that can affect the stop, so far it is not obvious, i i hope that putin will fail, for this we need effective israeli actions and allies , well, it is very difficult, but we understand that with such an operation, if it is on the ground, then people will die. civilians included, and this is a very complicated story, because then we will see another war, an information war, all over the world, and what we have heard from the ukrainians, that we must stop shooting, will increase more and more in relation to israel, but israel will not will stop because

israel's military doctrine, it is not designed to to de-occupy the territory and stop it, they have a different doctrine, their territory is small and there is no operational distance for such and such a doctrine, that is why they have a doctrine to destroy attacks on israel, and that is why they are forced to have such attitudes in the political plan inside the country, and in general, it is clear, after such abuses and inhuman actions, there will not be such a simple solution, so we are expected, in fact , the most difficult, the next ones, maybe in a week or two. then we will see how the situation will develop, so far russia is the beneficiary if the war drags on, then russia objectively has more chances to intervene in this, already at this political level, and then it will be bad for us, because

attention will be diverted to the middle east, and putin will be forced to listen to the countries that now recognize him as a criminal , but i hope that we will avoid such a scenario , although it is now quite improbable, but measures must be taken to avoid it, and the sending of the american group very quickly, and such a warning is action. obviously, mr. valery, the americans want to warn iran against possible action or support for the already more overt hamas, as john kirby, the white house national security council spokesman, said there was no evidence that iran was involved in the hamas attack.

on israel, but it is absolutely obvious that terrorist networks, including hamas, were supported by iran , the leaders of iran publicly thanked, and said that it was good that hamas finally did what it dreams of, obviously iran, but here in this situation, if suddenly, the scenario we are talking about they talked to you about this multi-layered scenario, where there is ukraine, and african countries, south korea, and possibly taiwan , if iran has a place in this architecture of this chaos and wars in the world, if iran suddenly becomes a great power that can join of this war in the middle east, what it will mean for us, given that, well, i think the americans will do their best to neutralize iran's capabilities. well, this is a very multi-scenario development of events, i do not even

dare to predict, because, well, you say, iran will go to war against israel, it will be a really catastrophic situation and the consequences are unpredictable, but iran, i think, should be afraid to do that, because now their goals are to get their nuclear weapons. after all, israel is a nuclear power, although it is not official, iran received a lot of such steps at the meeting from the united states, i will remind you that the united states unfroze 6 billion dollars for iran for their money, but which was used terroristically, so their actions were would be very risky, they understand that if they suddenly incur the wrath of israel's ally the united states, the consequences for the future will not be foreseen. russia will not help. russia cannot, unlike the usa, simultaneously

direct the continents in different directions. they attracted the country, well, according to various estimates, 80% of everything they have that is capable. only 20% are kept somewhere on their western border and in the far east. that is, everything is most effectively involved in the war with ukraine. ago. putin has nothing to help iran. i hope that they will calculate it all balance of power therefore, i still think that the countries will not enter into it. so far, so far, it is still not clear what china's position is, because china is a partner of the russian federation, and china also has ambitions.

regarding the arab countries, or regarding cooperation with the arab countries, in particular saudi arabia, putin, as already announced, will visit china next week, and this was announced by his aide yuriy ushakov, there will be a forum there, and a large forum at which he must speak or be present vladimir putin, what do you say about the role and about china's capabilities now both in the world and in this region and how china's position can affect both the middle east and russia, which is fighting against ukraine, and we know that there will be a meeting between xi jinping and joe biden in november in washington, about what can he talk about and what can be discussed at putin's talks with...with the leaders of china and what is china's role in the world now? china did not reach the number one position

in the world, as they set the goal, in the usa it remains according to various indicators, if taken as a global leader, but china is not he does not leave the idea, first to dominate in his region, and then to spread his influence to the whole world, including his model, in fact, management. and life, that is, this model, is specific, and in principle, i will tell you, i would very much not like to live in the conditions of the chinese model, therefore... that is why it seems to me that putin, who goes there as a vassal, is rather demonstrating a mass creates for the chinese leader, his big goals, which he announced at the party congress, china is still a country that works strategically, and

china tries to avoid direct violations international law or international rules, yes they take quite... i would say such a cynical position, even not only in relation to ukraine, when they said both sides should stop, not noticing, as it were, that russia is attacking ukraine, well, that is cynical, but that they say the same thing in israel that hamas is attacking, the two sides must find an understanding, this is not the position that will bring this country to the first place in the world, absolutely, but they do not understand that... the position is not sincere or, what it is not true that she will do them some kind of leader there, er, to reduce all the positions of education and all development models to some single chinese version. moreover, i do not believe that china in the next decade will be as we

see it now. i think china has a lot of internal problems that this country has not yet faced. from the point of view of the development of the domestic economy, the middle class, and this model, which they now have an economic result, it will not last forever, but for today, of course, china has a desire, to dominate in their region, russia, they no longer consider a country that can create a problem for them, moreover, i see that they will expand in russia more economically and gradually displace russians there with their population in the far east. that is, let's say, in distant points, they have increased their presence in recent years, and this concerns the east, they have not yet reached this region, but they have contributed to saudi arabia, for example, some solutions with arab countries, so it seems to me , which is logical,

if china has positioned itself in the middle east as a country that can find a solution , and here they suddenly, well, dramatically change their position to... support terrorists there or russia, this will not be the case, so i believe that this visit of the russian leader will be more ceremonial, demonstration, respect for suzaren, china will achieve its goals, in particular, they saved over the last year 10 billion dollars to undercut the price, on dumping prices from russia and from other countries, only because russia under sanctions cannot sell at such prices for... cars, you you know, that's why china will squeeze everything it needs economically from russia now, and what it needs politically militarily, the only risk is that russia is in such a vulnerable position, it is now giving away technologies, well , they already say that it has been transferred to china, i don't know to what extent

this is true, we will see from nuclear submarines, i.e. china is building nuclear submarines, others already. recently they lost one thing nuclear bavaria, but they are building two more, and russia, unfortunately, can give both china and iran, not even their technologies, but also the soviets, which to this day still somewhat dominate the technologies of china and even more so of north korea, it is very dangerous that russia and its leaders sell everything, exchange everything for the sake of what is simply to hold, to hold power over the russian population, on russian territory, and these countries just decided, i mean the countries that understand the logic of this, first of all china, just decided to wait, they will take full control, so far russia is useful, it acts as a proxy, well, as for iran , hamas is a proxy, they say, iran does not stand according to hamas

there is no confirmation, so how many, and where did these rockets come from, they just took them, that's where they collected them. certain engines and fancy rockets were suddenly collected for 200 km, well, we all understand that this is not done in one day, they planned this attack for two years, and so did russia, it strengthens china with some technologies, and china so far using russia as a proxy in attacks on the us , this is the main opponent china, but everything will be decided at the meetings between the us and china, if the meeting does not break, california in november, then i think there is a lot going on at a personal meeting between zenpin and the president of the united states, although, of course, now china is trying to raise the stakes in these negotiations with the help of russia and iran, you have already mentioned this aid, which apparently came from iran

to hamas militants, and that it did not happen in one day, no in a week, not in a month and not even in a year, but in a few years, that is, during these five days, the tense situation in israel and after the attack by hamas, most people ask themselves a rather simple question, that is, how, how did it turn out like this that israel, which was always ready for war, and we know that the israeli special services are those special services that work in advance, and we know that the israeli idf, this is a large enough organization, if you also take the reservists who, whom they bring there from all over the world in order to, or... army, 3,000, seems to be in their reserve, how did it happen that it was unexpected for everyone, because

to mount such a large attack in the first two days, as the israelis themselves admit, that they lost the first two days of the war, because their caught off guard, you can explain how, how it could have happened in i will not speculate, it is necessary to know that the intelligence and masat were outside and the military intelligence, and they will deal with it, there really, everyone comments that there is such a puncture, but i will tell you what it means not ready, they just missed their 3.5 hours for their motorized infantry units to reach the gas line. and just during this time the militants killed 260 people at a peaceful festival and then additionally captured 20 small

kibbutzim there, that is, they can answer, they just have a very close territorial coexistence, so they missed that first loophole through their surveillance systems, so basically, i think that's the lesson. as i read it, that such a system , when you expect an attack all the time, you have modern weapons, surveillance systems, you have everything, but everything is the same, the first subversive groups, if they come, and yet here is such a war, such a style, you you have, you will have thousands of victims in the first days, is such a system suitable for any country, i think not, what kind of system is waiting in that. and then reacts therefore, we need to draw conclusions, our concept, which we are now officially signing with other countries, provides for a response to

an attack, we need to think about how to create a situation of prevention and prevention of attacks. israel, unfortunately, is in such a situation that it is on its own, it has self-defense with the support of its allies , well, actually, what is offered to us, also, i believe that this is an example for ukraine, or such a model for such countries that border with aggressive enemies is unacceptable, it is necessary to make sure that the enemy does not dare to attack, simply does not dare, and in principle this it was possible, but let's say so, all the showdowns there, the flight breakdown, what was there and what did they do, did they not do intelligence, other structures, it will be done, i will only say one thing, what i can assess politically, it is difficult for me to imagine , that these intentions were not known in the kremlin, it is hard to imagine that they were not known in iran, why then, such friends as we saw, well, friends

or, i don't know, friends, like the meetings of prime minister netanyahu with putin, this georgievska the tape is finally premiering for netanyahu , but the signal was that he was quite counting on it what mo maybe putin will stop his proxies there in this region and stop believing, as they believed, that it is with such means that you can protect yourself from terrorist attacks, that is , this is the lesson that they should learn, and i think here there should be a convergence of our positions, because we already have this lesson, we also, not we , our government, thought that we could somehow come to an agreement there, but here is an example, even israel, which... was much more ready than ukraine, is really here punctured something, but that doesn't mean we have to talk

that's about right, you see, israel did it in spite of... all the preparations for war, it 's, it's the wrong response to this situation, it 's the response should be, see, in today's world, and the right of force is so rampant right now that we have to prepare it is much more powerful for the defense of the country and the main thing is to build alliances with nuclear countries, that is, we cannot continue to survive without an alliance with a nuclear coalition, first of all the usa, britain, france and membership. simply cannot, even if we are powerful, like israel live in the system preparation for war, we will simply have everything even, if the enemy climbs into our territory, we will have tens of thousands of dead on the first day. so this is the lesson i see in this situation, i hope israel also sees it, and it seems to me that israel's efforts from a more similar point of view are many.

multilateral, possibly responses to such attacks, they will be made in the following years, and russia should remain where it is, for israel, should be a completely unpredictable, negotiable entity, and i am surprised by the statement of the israeli ambassador in moscow that he is there said, russia is acting responsibly, it is not behind this, well, you haven't drawn any conclusions, you want to have a proxy attack in yourself once again. which will be financed in the kremlin, i don't understand why yes, such conclusions are now being made as part of the current government there, after all, it seems to me that if they do not make these conclusions, they will be replaced, then there will be no premiership and there will be no then of the current coalition, and one more conclusion, they had complex internal political processes between the government and the opposition, and this diverted their attention, they tried to carry out some reforms where

increase executive power. the influence, well, in general, of the executive power, and they missed, in my opinion, the prioritization of the task, that the task of security and defense of the state is in the first place, and there is not some kind of struggle for position, well, thank god that they came to conclusions, and as far as i understand now wants to concentrate efforts, coordinate and the opposition of the government, the achievement of the key goal , security issues for its state, well, this is also a lesson for ukraine regarding the government and the opposition and regarding the internal situation and the internal political situation, and this too it is necessary to take into account what happens when there is no unity, when there are some misunderstandings. this will be the end of our conversation. thank you mr. valery for the conversation, it was valery chaly, politician, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2014, 2015-2019. friends

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israel strikes the gaza strip when new evidence of atrocities appears after the hamas attack, we are talking about this on bbc news ukraine live from london, i'm yevgenia shedlovska. what was the attack of palestinian militants on one israeli settlement, it becomes clear now, bodies were found in kibbutz kfaraz, a bbc film crew visited there. the israeli military continues to strike the gas sector. the palestinians say the situation there is catastrophic, the number casualties are increasing, more than 2,000 dead on both sides.