[000:00:00;00] the psychological factor of it, a person, a person will simply be afraid of getting into such a thing again, and accordingly, if a person is wounded there, it takes a very, very long time, a very large amount of public funds to restore that person to the line, that's why such ammunition quite dangerous. welcome to the broadcast of the program of the ukrainian voice of america chas tym and i am its host ostap yarysh. the united states provided ukraine with a new package of weapons worth $200 million. it included additional ammunition for pppo,

missiles for haim. and shells for artillery, high-precision aviation ammunition, means of electronic warfare, anti-tank weapons and other equipment. the representative of the us national security council, john kirby, emphasized the importance of continuous support to ukraine. we believe that this is absolutely necessary. you have heard me say before that time is not our friend, that we continue to do everything we can to help ukraine succeed on the battlefield and regain more of its own territories. the military assistance we announced today is another important signal of our continued commitment to support of the ukrainian people, the funding that congress approved during the previous fiscal year is used, in accordance with the program of presidential powers , of course we will continue to provide ukraine with the necessary weapons and equipment, but it is extremely important that congress honors its obligations to the people of ukraine and provides additional funding , we are conducting active conversations with

members of congress: this new aid package was announced at the next meeting of the defense of ukraine group in the ramstein format, which took place today in brussels, we will talk about its results with our european correspondent, bohdan tsyupan, who is working on the spot today. bohdan, i congratulate you, so you carefully followed the statements made today in belgium, what were the highlights of this meeting, so, in your opinion, they seemed the most important today? ostape, today at the headquarters of nato, i would say that the word winter was heard most often, and about the need to prepare for winter in a state of war or war in a winter state, about the need to protect the ukrainian infrastructure, which obviously, russia will try to strike again, as russia

did last winter in order to make life more difficult for the ukrainians, many times i heard the word ammunition, everyone was talking about it, while nato leaders, in particular, the secretary general of nato, emphasized because the support for ukraine does not decrease, that countries, in particular nato countries, continue to keep their promises to help ukraine as much as necessary: ​​and with what they can, even in spite of russia's threats, how to use winter as a weapon, cold as a weapon, yes and even despite nuclear blackmail, as jens stolten mentioned today. putin is trying to use nuclear blackmail for intimidation and

coercion. he's trying to use this nuclear rhetoric to prevent nato allies from supporting ukraine, but he's failing because, again, it's in our security interests that ukraine wins, so we're going to continue to support ukraine, and we're not going to let the president putin to blackmail nato allies with his nuclear rhetoric. bohdan, today in brussels there was not only a meeting in the format armenstein, as well as the meeting of the nato council of ukraine. volodymyr zelensky also arrived there unannounced today, did his presence help to convince the allies to move forward in making the necessary decisions for ukraine. well, actually, just a few minutes ago, the ukrainian minister of defense, who was supposed to be here himself, leading the delegation at the ministerial meeting , rustem umeru, told journalists that the actual presence of the ukrainian president raised the level of what was being discussed here. language,

for example, he said that some countries. some of ukraine's partners promised something that ukraine did not expect, what exactly he , he did not explain, but he insisted that ukraine is ready... to fight and continue throughout the winter, it is only about long-term, but about the guarantee of long-term support, and obviously the possibility of ukrainian for the president to be here, to talk directly with the representatives of the partner countries, was very important, and in fact, let's not forget that there are so many dramatic things happening in the world right now, such political changes taking place both in europe and in the united states, how to raise the level of the meeting as much as possible, to attract as much attention as possible to ukrainian affairs, obviously, this is the main task of ukrainian representatives and politicians, of course, bohdane knows that these

changes that we are seeing now and finally, in the middle east, the aggravation and uncertainty in the us congress, whether this can have such an effect on the pace and volume of support from western countries, i know that this issue, among others, was also discussed today. well , it is obvious that everything is determined by who could predict that such a huge conflict will break out, between israel and hamas, that the middle east, israel will be in flames, who could have predicted that in europe, there is widespread support for ukraine also among the american people, because ukraine is important, and we they talked over and over again about why ukraine is important, it's not only about ukraine, it's about the international order, of course. not on the rules, regarding our ability to support efforts in both ukraine and israel, certainly we can do both and we will, we are the strongest country in the world, so we will do whatever is necessary to help our allies and partners, and we will also do whatever is necessary to make sure that we

are able to protect our own interests and our own country. such assurances, in particular from the american secretary of defense, were heard here in brussels. we also heard. some details of further cooperation, in particular long-term defense assistance to ukraine, for example , it was learned about such coalitions in specialties, that is, we actually have more than 30 nato states, each of which is different in size, different in capabilities, armies, for example, are different in terms of capabilities, and they have the opportunity to split, let's say, today we were talking about the so-called aviation coalition, the f16 coalition , where the leadership is led by the netherlands, denmark, with the participation, obviously, of the united states, when it comes to american aircraft, about the tank

coalition, we already hear less now, but here we heard about the coalition in information technologies, about the mine clearance coalition, etc. these statements are important, bohdan, thank you for your work, bohdan tsyupin was in touch with us from... nato's apartment in brussels. the meeting in the ramstein format was attended for the first time by the new head of the us armed forces, general charles brown, who replaced mark milley in this position. brown is the most african-american and aviation representative in his position for the past 20 years. whether it will bring changes to the security decisions of the usa, in particular regarding air assistance to ukraine, the opinions of experts were collected by maria prus. appointed chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of the united states, do solemnly swear to uphold and defend the constitution of the united states of america, against all its enemies, external and internal.

f-16 pilot and instructor with nearly 3,000 flight hours, commander of us military aviation in europe, south asia, and the pacific region, and for the past two years , commander of all us air forces. for the past 18 years, general charles brown has been an aviator who has headed the joint chiefs of staff, i.e. all branches of the us military, army, navy, marines, air force, and space forces. retired u.s. air force lt. gen. david deptula, dean of the institute for research of aerospace forces, says that while the air force will not expect favoritism from brown, he will bring a greater understanding of importance to the position. this is extremely important now because the threat to the united states will most likely come from china, and the pacific ocean is a huge theater or area of ​​action, and the fastest and most effective

way to overcome what is often called the tyranny of distance is through air and space power. in the matter of ukraine, the ministry of defense concentrated on assistance on land, our minister, the army general. they are wonderful people but they do not understand the weight of air power as general brown does. i hope he will provide informed advice to the president of the united states that. regarding the value and potential of the air force for ukraine. deptula also expects reforms in the armed forces from the 61-year-old commander. when general brown led the us air force, his key message was get stronger, change or lose. i think he will maintain this approach as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he will advocate for changes in the structure of the committee, the outdated processes that are followed there and future planning.

brown watched russia's invasion of ukraine in 2014 from the ramstein base in germany, as he was in charge of the us air force in europe at the time. in july of this year, during a senate confirmation hearing on his confirmation as head of the us military, brown was asked what lessons he had learned from the russian war in ukraine. strategically, i think it's how valuable information is before the campaign starts, before the conflict starts, and also. how was it able to bring together not only nato, but also unite allies and partners around the world? i would also drew attention to the importance of logistics. i think that as far as the duration of hostilities, the conflict, we understand that sometimes it lasts longer than we can expect, and that is also a challenge. and i would also like to single out the will to fight and the determination of the ukrainian people and their leaders. it's something that's hard to measure before... a conflict starts, and it pays

huge dividends. and the last thing i said, from a pilot's point of view, is the importance of air power, and we've seen what each side has been able to do or failed to do, but we've also seen the value of air defense, innovative air defense, and how it helped the ukrainians to protect their people. general brown, like general deptula and other aviators, have long advocated the provision of fourth-generation fighter jets to ukraine, but the us marine corps colonel. rates, css think tank mark kensien says he doesn't expect that policy to change drastically with brown's passage. i think that in this situation, the ability of the united states and its allies to build up the forces of the ukrainian air force during the war is very important limited there are plans for maybe 24 aircraft after the war, maybe more capabilities, and that's probably where general brown will be able to have more influence, maybe he'll be able to accelerate...plans to train ukrainian f-16 pilots and transfer aircraft.

he may want to be more assertive about the us commitment to the f-16, but i don't expect a radical change of heart. i think that during the war, the public imagination was always captured by certain weapons. in the early stages it was the javelin, later it was the hymars, after that the patriot, and then the tanks. after providing of each of these weapons, people hoped that it would bring victory, not a single one. weapons will not bring victory, the cumulative effect of weapons will bring victory. kensen explains that the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is an adviser to the president and the us defense secretary. he does not make decisions regarding aid to ukraine. instead, he reports that it is the american army that can provide kyiv. a big problem was the fact that stocks of certain key weapons and ammunition were simply not large enough. the united states is ramping up production, again brown will

participate in these discussions. everything mostly depends on the white house. he will be at the center of discussions about what the united states can provide from its stockpiles and will make decisions about what risks the united states is willing to take to provide weapons and equipment to ukraine. colonel kensian believes that the change in the leadership of the american armed forces took place at a crucial moment in russia's war in ukraine, but perhaps the biggest challenge. for brown regarding the continuation of aid to ukraine, as well as for the leadership of the pentagon and administration of biden, there may be a political confrontation in washington. i expect the current over $24 billion aid package for ukraine, which the administration proposed back in august, to be approved, although there will be some debate. the difficult question will be in january, when the amount of assistance for the whole year will be proposed. i think most of the changes we will see in the issue of aid to ukraine. will be

determined by politics. although the joint chiefs of staff and its chairman serve as the chief military adviser to the president, they have no leadership powers and do not command combat operations of the us armed forces. maria prus, dmytro savchuk, voice of america. these are the opinions of experts about the new head of the armed forces of the united states. but american missiles for hymers installations will soon be able to have twice the size. in the company, one of the engineers of the martin company, which is currently working on such a development, said this in a comment to the voice of america. lougheed martin is one of the 700 gun manufacturers who presented. at the largest military exhibition in north america, aussa. these days, the exposition continues in washington. a significant number of manufacturers already have their products in ukraine, and some plan to strengthen their cooperation with the ukrainian defense sector. like the companies that make kamikaze drones and reconnaissance

drones. we have recently increased production of hymars to 96 such systems per year, and for salvo missiles, production has increased from 10 to 14,000 per year. i am talking to companies in ukraine on unmanned aerial vehicles about a joint production partnership. we are not against helping in manufacturing and their drones, in the near future i will return to ukraine to continue negotiations. to a large extent , further military support for ukraine also depends on the us congress, in particular, on who will be the speaker of the house of representatives. today , republicans nominated congressman steve scalise for the position. however, this is only the beginning of the process of electing a new speaker. let's talk about what to expect next with our

congress correspondent kateryna lisinova. katya, i congratulate you. congratulations ostap. katya, tell us in more detail what the next procedure will be and whether we can say that there is already a crisis in congress. overcome, it was a closed republican caucus in which steve scalise defeated his opponent , jim jordan, who is actually the last, is actually the favorite of the far-right republicans. according to the american media, stivskalis won by a small margin, with 113 republicans voting for him, 99 against and nine more republicans abstaining. let me remind you that kevin mccarthy, when he was nominated for this position won by a much larger margin of 188 votes to 31 and even with such a large margin it took a long time to appoint him to this position 15 rounds of voting for his position even though during the nomination kevin mccarthy won by a much larger margin by a margin as for the next steps, after the nomination

, the actual nominees, the candidates for voting in the house of representatives should be brought forward, so that both the democrats and the republic can vote. but when exactly this will happen is currently unknown, because, according to the american media, some legislators, some republicans say that they will not support steve scalise for the nomination of the speaker, in particular , the far-right republican marjorie taylor green said this, and as you know, steve scalise needs every republican vote to win this position, because the republicans now have a very small advantage of the majority in the house of representatives, and the democrats actually will not vote for the republicans, because they are their own candidate, this is the leader democrats in the house of representatives hakeem jeffries. but no matter who we appoint as speaker, he will exist in conditions where there is an amendment that allows a single legislator to put the speaker's dismissal to a vote. this is how kevin mccarthy was fired. and medgates, a far-right republican

who actually initiated the dismissal of the previous speaker, kevin mccarthy, said that in order to remove this amendment, those legislators who want to do it should contact him and offer something in return. i will note that a proposal to remove that amendment in a secret ballot among republicans today failed. i propose to listen to the right-wing republican's own position on ukraine, which blocks the removal of this amendment right now. it is not me who is trying to repeal the amendment to dismiss the speaker. so maybe people who want to change this rule should think about what they want to propose. me to support it, and i've said what i want, i want rohan's reforms in place, which prohibits members of congress from trading stocks that prevent them from becoming lobbyists or registered foreign agents that limit the ability to buy members of congress. indeed, it seems that even despite this nomination within the party

, it is still unclear whether he will be able to get the votes of his fellow party members in the final vote. katya, what do the republicans and democrats say about their priorities after the election of the new speaker, in particular, when we say so, about ukraine, israel, or the us budget for next year. that's right, step aside, it's too early to say that the speakeriad, so to speak, in the congress has ended, but that's not the case less, both democrats and republicans say the first order of business after a new speaker is approved should be a vote on aid to israel, and in particular the resolution, the bipartisan resolution that the co-chairs proposed and created. for foreign affairs of the house of representatives , republican mile mccaul and democrat gregory meeks. and this resolution unreservedly calls for continued aid to israel, and also affirms unwavering support. the united states of america, israel and at least 200 house lawmakers have already signed on

representatives, and directly, both democrats and republicans state that this should be the first step after the approval of the speaker, but in fact, they cannot do this until the speaker is approved, but noted that both the nominee from and the nominee from the republicans . i suggest listening to their statements, both yesterday and today, right now. what people have always really liked about my approach is that i've always been a unifier, i've been a person who has built coalitions throughout my career, and we've had big wins. people want us to get back on track, we need a working congress, tomorrow, wednesday, we need to get congress back to work, we need

to vote out speaker scalise on the first day, after that our first issue should be to pass a resolution that express our strong support for israel. the co-author of this resolution is the chairman of the foreign affairs committee, mile mccaul, and more than 200 legislators have already signed this document. the problem is the dysfunction of our opponents, we can't do anything until they decide what to do with the speaker, but it's important that we work collectively to make sure that when that dysfunction ends and they elect a speaker, one of the first things which we vote for, will be a joint congressional resolution that will confirm our support a friend and ally of israel. but returning again to the issues of the speakeriade, which is still over, as the democrat gregory meeks has just stated directly, that no question about israel and any other issues and directly the budget of the united states

of america for the next year, as well as aid to ukraine, cannot be approved until a new speaker is approved, so going back to this issue, as i mentioned at the beginning, the republicans have now approved republican stephen scalise as their nominee, his opponent was jim jordan, who is the favorite of the far-right republicans, he, or rather, his assistant , told the american media that jim jordan even wants to make a speech during the nomination already in the house of representatives in support of steve scalise, but one way or another, that doesn't mean even if steve scalise's opponent, jim jordan, gives a speech in support of steve scalise, it doesn't mean that all the necessary republicans will vote for steve scalise. of course, interesting events are currently developing in the congress, katya, thanks for helping you sort it out. was in touch with us, our congress correspondent directly from capitol

hill. and the last story for today is about a ukrainian fighter with the call sign hulk, who lost a leg in the war, but did not lose his will to defend his homeland. as soon as the fighter received the protest, he immediately wanted to return to service in the armed forces. why didn't the hulk file for disability, instead he decided. to continue fighting, anna kostyuchenko and pavel sohodolskyi questioned the military. the 47-year-old operator of attack drones with the call sign hulk fights on prostheses the lower part of his right leg was torn off during a combat mission in the lughan region in october 2022. i stepped on an anti-personnel mine, and so it happened that the leg was injured in one direction, i in the other direction. to the first question, there is a leg, the guys said, brother, unfortunately, there is no leg, well, enter, scream, cry and shout there, how

it hurts me there, why would i upset the guys, i am the only one, that at that moment i was struggling with in order not to lose consciousness, there he breathed deeply, drank a lot of water, in the first days of the full-scale russian invasion, hulk left the management of a private business in kyiv, his wife and two children and went to the front as a volunteer. at first he defended kyiv as an infantryman, then as part of a rifle company he defended kharkiv oblast, in the summer of last year he began to use a drone instead of a machine gun as a weapon. his brothers gave him the nickname hulk. it's better not to get angry, because then you won't be able to stop me. probably that's why khaldu. after the injury, the soldier was treated in one of the kyiv hospitals, where he underwent a dozen

surgical interventions. thank god, everything will be ukraine, yes, yes. everything will be fine come on, at the beginning of may 2023, the serviceman stood on his feet again, instead of his own foot he was given a protest by trapstep, an american manufacturer. the cost of prosthetics is about $10,000, reimbursed by the state. usually, doctors give at least a year for rehabilitation after prosthetics, but the fighter decided not to wait and after a month and a half at the beginning of june 2023, hulk returned to the company of attack drones, the most heroic member of the team on prosthetics, a combat man, i came here already a military unit, well, it's already the second time i was already at zero during the day, i'm already buying prigayu,

but it's a little heavy, not on my leg, that's understandable. although the installed protest is considered functional, it is more suitable for civilian loads, says hulk, because moving in combat conditions is not only an additional 45 kg of equipment, but also running over rough terrain, trenches and trenches. so after the interview for the voice of america, the soldier went to germany for prosthetics. he hopes that the carbon prosthesis installed there will increase his physical capabilities to defend ukraine. my motivation is that of our homeland. they came with weapons, how many of these russians are already rotting in these plantations and in these fields, and they do not stop , then i understand that there are already words, some moral ones, there are no negotiations there, well, we have to kill them , that is, come to our land, come to our land

with weapons, be ready to stay there as a chili or... hulk says that he does not want russia's war against ukraine to turn into a frozen conflict, so he fights even on one leg. anna kostyuchenko, pavel sukhodolskyi for the voice america from donetsk region. download the voice of america mobile app. the application allows you to bypass blocking automatically thanks to the built-in vpn service. read the news, watch. programs and videos, as well as listen to the podcasts of the ukrainian voice of america service, and that's it, we'll say goodbye, thank you for trusting the voice of america ukrainian, i wish you a peaceful night and a peaceful morning,

see you soon, see you soon. greetings, we are looking for this boy, his name is maksym pokalov, he is 16 years old, maksym disappeared on the first day of a full-scale the invasion of russia, at least since february 24 , 2022, there is no connection with the boy, and nothing is known about his fate at all. before the war , maksym lived in the city of svatove, luhansk region, where he was last seen, but after the russian occupation, the boy disappeared without a trace and until now there is no information about his whereabouts. so, if you know anything about maksym pokalov or where he might be now, please let magnolia children's tracing service know. and look especially carefully into the boy's face, i am asking the residents of the luhansk region and the city of svatove itself. perhaps you will see this video on youtube or social networks and recognize maxim. you can contact us at number

11630. this is the hotline of the child tracing service. calls