[000:00:00;00] greetings, we are looking for this boy, his name is maxim pokalov, he is 16 years old, maxim disappeared on the first day of the full-scale invasion of russia, at least since february 24 , 22, there is no connection with the boy, and nothing is known about his fate at all , before the war , maksym lived in the city of svatove, luhansk region, where he was seen during the uprising, but after the russian occupation, the boy disappeared without a trace, and there is still no information about his whereabouts. so, if you know anything about maksym pokalov or where he is may be now, please notify magnolia children's tracing service. and i ask the residents of the luhansk region and the city of svatove to look especially carefully into the boy's face. perhaps you will see this video on youtube or social networks and recognize maxim. you can contact us at number 1163. this is the hotline of the child tracing service. calls from all mobile operators in ukraine

are free. if. if, for example, you are in the temporarily occupied territories and you do not have the opportunity to call us, please write to us on the site or the children's search service in telegram. i also encourage you to share this video on your social networks, the more people know about the search for the child, the more chances there will be of finding him. so please, do not remain indifferent, and let's try to find maxim together. we are also looking for 15 sashka ivanov, who is now considered missing. the boy was in one of the boarding schools in donetsk, and on february 20, 2022, four days before the start of the full-scale invasion, all the inmates of this boarding school were allegedly killed by the occupation authorities exported to russia. this was told to us by grandmother sashka, who is currently in the territory controlled by ukraine and is looking for her grandson. they were taken out of donetsk even before the war, exactly

on february 20. the entire boarding school was simply bogged down and many children were taken there, he studied at a boarding school in donetsk. above all, svitlana oleksandrivna wants to find her grandson, if he really was taken to russia, then to return him to ukraine and take him into custody. the boy's grandmother also said that she has information that sashko is currently in to one of the boarding schools in taganrog or rostob on the don, in the summer they were taken to yevpatoria. sashka's grandmother does not have any more information, but there is a lot. there is great hope to bring the grandson home, and although it is likely that sashko is actually in russia, however, this is not an accurate information that is being verified at this time, so i am asking absolutely everyone who is watching this video right now, please look closely at sasha's face, he looks 14-15 years old, of medium build, has light blond hair and brown eyes. so, if you know anything about sashka ivanov, then no

delay and let us know right away. the line of the child tracing service at the number 11630, which is free from all mobile operators . it is also possible that this program will be seen on the internet in russia. and if you know any information about sasha ivanov and can confirm that he is really there, then write to us on the website or on facebook or instagram of the children's search service. and i want to note that any information about the child is important in the search. also, i'm asking you to spare just a few minutes. of our time and go to the website of the children's search service, here at missing children of ukraine section, you can see boys and girls who are currently wanted. look carefully at their faces and i will be very grateful if you share information about the missing children in your facebook or instagram, and suddenly you personally recognize one of them, then immediately call our hotline 116.30, calls from all mobile operators in ukraine

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to win, but to face tyranny and dictatorship with dignity. you know that the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe is now supposed to pass a resolution recognizing vladimir putin as a dictator, that is, until now he was not a dictator, but now he should be... recognized as a dictator, and in fact, the russian regime will be called a dictatorial regime, and russia will enter to the circle of those states that are already dictatorial, in particular we are talking about iran, in particular we are talking about north korea, i will not talk about china, i have no information about what they have there, what in their form of government, in any case, i'm talking only about those regimes that really today have all the signs of dictatorial regimes, these dictatorial regimes have many advantages in terms of how they can wage war against the civilized world, against democracy. against what we call democracies , the absolute lack of control of the government by the people, absolute, absolute freedom in making certain decisions, absolute disregard for the will of the people, the losses suffered by this people in those wars

unleashed by dictatorships, absolutely free, absolutely free opportunity to dispose of the finances of that state and the people in which they are, absolutely free opportunity to commit... acts on the territory of any state to which they can reach, that is, these are people who are the personification of evil, who have no warnings, warnings, rules, laws that could restrain them. in their aggressive war, is it an information war, is it an economic war, or is it an ordinary war, a hot war, which we see in ukraine today, and the question arises, but as democracies, as democracies, such as ukraine, such as the united states of america, the countries of the european union, australia there and many other countries, how can they resist these dictators, what are the chances of victory, or should we simply abandon these conventions, to say that these democratic but... and principles are conventions that prevent us from fighting, and then just

exchange blows, and whoever wins will remain alive and say, well, now we are returning to the norms of democracy, we will live according to democratic principles, because again, well, there are certain principles and , for example, in the mobilization of the population, in dictatorial regimes no one asks how many people need to be mobilized, they can destroy half of their population, it does not matter to them, there are certain rules, and here is such suspicion or fear that democratic... countries, or countries in which there are democratic rules and norms, may in the future give in, globally, give in to dictators, give in to tyranny, because they simply will not be able to adequately respond to them and adequately lead this war, because again, if you spend a huge amount of money on war and your population simply begs, it doesn't matter to the dictators, it doesn't matter to them, begs, let them beg, well, you can't do that in a democracy, you have to make sure that there is enough money for everything, because there are some certain rules there, and this is a very important topic, and we will speak

today among the guests, the first guest whom i will involve in the conversation is serhiy gromenko, an expert of the ukrainian institute of the future, mr. serhiy, i congratulate you , good afternoon, this is me here i made a small conditional introduction to our conversation in order to better explain to people why, i took this topic for our issue, please tell me whether it is possible to say today that the war in ukraine has begun, well, quite realistically, an era of confrontation, a heated confrontation between dictatorships and democracy in a world of two civilizations, well, in fact, one of which must remain dominant. i would not reduce it to a question about civilizations, so as not to go to any sidetracks, because then we will have to admit that russian civilization is,

let's say, something... separate, that is, to play along to the russian narrative, or enter into a discussion about whether china and iran can be included in one civilization, let us stick to the old terms, the world of dictatorships and the world of democratic countries, and it is obvious that from time to time they collide and not because the countries have some special conditions or some leaders. they are not the ones who come to power, most likely we are talking about a certain cyclical development , and from time to time dictatorships feel the democracies for strength, as it happened 2,500 years ago, and 100 years ago, and 70 years ago, and now the time has come , touch, maybe not hard asked these democratic countries and their democratic norms, tell me. please, the main goal today, if we speak, let's do it right away, who can

we write today in this new news of evil , which is being talked about, well, those countries, at least, which are actively participating in the opposition not only to ukraine, but also to our western partners, i know that the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe should, well, at least there pass a resolution recognizing putin as a dictator, and obviously then it will be possible to say that in the opinion of european politicians, the european to the political community, putin is a dictator, and his regime is dictatorial, so russia is ...' a dictatorial regime and it will already be possible to refer to a certain official decision of an official body of the european union, but if we talk now, which countries could be called or which regimes could be called dictatorial, because i mentioned north korea, iran, well, we expect a decision about putin from russia, but i didn’t say about china, because i don’t know, honestly, i don’t know, i wanted to i would like to ask you, look, the truth is

that it is much simpler. to count democratic countries, or at least countries with a political regime, transiting to democracy, similar to democracy, and 80% of the population continues to remain in the conditions of non-democratic regimes, frankly tyrannical regimes, so it is correct if we are already talking about the axis of evil 2.0 brothers.. .. it is not so much the internal state of a country as the propensity to external aggression that is taken into account, because a dictatorial country that does not encroach on its dictator does not fight for world domination, but there are even such dictators, well at least there was one who really sincerely took care of the development of the population subject to it, relatively recently, then we will understand that such

dictatorships, well, this is the evil that has to be put up with, and moreover, an attempt to democratize violent, all... dictatorships on earth, usually leads to other arguments , to completely different results, no matter what arguments or good intentions we come up with, that's why this axis of evil, 2:00, it, and in principle, it was actually voiced by the americans, it seems that the state department has an official list, but let's be all to look more at real things, the main hegemon, the car of the world, nowadays, of the modern earth is, of course, china, until relatively recently, there was, well, a soft dictatorship, regular change was expected, no more than 10 years of rotation of the top management, but even

then china did not show itself at its best side in relation to, let's say, national minorities, to traditionally this is tibet. in recent years , repression against the uyghurs in xinjiang has intensified, but relatively recently, violating the almost 50-year-old principle of rotation, a new head of the people's republic of china xi jinping went for a third term, which means the final transition of china from a soft to a hard domestic, and a hard domestic dictatorship that does not involve rotation, that does not involve an internal position, it usually ends with an increase in tension on the external direction, well, because it is arranged, and besides, in recent

years, china has introduced some extremely serious restrictions inside the country, the so-called social rating, something more like, totalitarian dystopias that have been spread in the west, so china definitely, we can be called a dictatorship , and there are fears that china will sooner or later resort to open external aggression , obviously, iran and north korea are included in this axis of evil, there were several other african countries on the list of the state department, some of them already fell out and a part remains, for example, eritrea, can be included in this list , northern sudan, of course, and now whether we want it or not, russia and belarus have joined this axis of evil, and now they

form such a large eurasian arc, from the borders of europe until well, i don't even know, until south, to the south of the pacific ocean, and because of this axis of evil, the problems in the whole world have obviously increased, dictatorships, these dictatorships are looking for support from each other, and unfortunately, as we see, for various reasons, they find this support from each other, i now i also bring igor chelenka, a political and economic expert, to the conversation, mr. igor, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, but mr. serhiy and i will speak only until the 30th minute, so i will then give the opportunity to answer one more question, and we mr. igor, let's start from the 30th, we will talk until two o'clock there, but in any case, now i will give you the opportunity to make a reply, i just want to ask mr. sergey one more question, and you know, this is a logical question

, well, it is clear that democracy is also certain rules, but a person has to develop, and democracy is something that supposedly builds the whole society and harmoniously... it gives certain fruits and results, dictatorship is a completely different approach, there is , central management, there is a rigid vertical, everything is clear, and people in basically, there is no development of the strong, science, personality, everything else, everything is somehow centralized, what, if we talk about this war, how putin started it, but i think, from the submission of many of his partners, ukraine simply became a point, a point of application forces at that stage in the 22nd year, and what are these dictators ... they understand that economically they will not be able to overcome the countries of the west, because they will not be able to have such economic and technological development, so let's just overwhelm them now like this, well in why, why? you live, democracies live, everyone somehow...' why start this clarification of relations, which is trivial, banal money, banal economy?

no, the main goal of any dictatorship is to preserve itself, and for a certain time, i will not talk about iran or china, because these are separate cases, but there is no doubt about russia. putin's government is extremely, strongly tied to the expectations of the people, regarding. let's say this, if not greatness, then at least a worthy place for russia in the foreign policy arena and relatively full shelves in stores, russian society, having survived the 90s, willingly supports internal anti-liberalism, in exchange for handouts from the bar table, and early putinism, from 1999 to 2000, the eighth and then, especially there, this interregnum,

medvedev himself, willingly gave it to the russians, they took away their political rights, gave them a little more money, the majority of russians who saw the world, well, at least, at least thailand, they saw it in this period, not earlier and not later, and maybe, maybe it laid a certain such, well no not a consensus, but... let's say there is, developed, there was such an understanding between the population, the elites, and putin regarding how it should be in the future, but under the late putinism, as we know, this, this flow of petrodollars seriously declined, russia began to gradually creep into an economic crisis, things happened in russia serious negative changes on its borders, well, at least that 's what the russians imagined, first of all, i'm talking about the ukrainian... revolution of dignity, and in these conditions, the question of the survival of the regime, putin decided to solve in a very simple way, as he

it seemed like an amazingly effective way, due to external aggression, that is, the great, great recession of 2008 in russia was overcome at the expense of the five-day war against georgia, it turned out to be very, very effective for russian society and almost without any. the consequences for russia as a state, the problems with the swamp area, the problems with the ukrainian revolution of dignity, managed to be overcome due to the annexation of crimea and the war in donbas, then the invasion of syria, and when in the 20th year putin again faced a big problem, losses legitimacy and economic losses and demographic, due to the pandemic, due to unsuccessful transit, well, we decided that the attack on ukraine, the final conquest of ukraine, this would be just the perfect solution to all the problems that russia had accumulated, especially since the experience,

let's say there in the eighth, 14th year pushed them to this idea. i will not say again that it works for all authoritarian countries, but russia wanted to solve its internal problems with the help of war. as we know, this did not happen, and moreover, now russia's problems became absolutely incurable. and yet putin cannot or does not want to end the war, and how serious is the influence of those states that would also like to have their own benefit from the victory of russia, a benefit and a stronger position in negotiations with the west, or now no one expects anything from russia, there is conditional china, i am not talking about iran now, because the customs do not wait, whatever ends, that ends, they will continue to conduct their affairs, trade with the european union, trade with the united states. solve the issue there in the china sea or where with taiwan, well, it will have its own history, which they had, that’s what, they still

want to make a nuclear submarine, well, they will make their own lives, but what will happen to putin, no one is interested, is there any hook now, who keeps this putin in the sense of how to proceed in ukraine, as for china as a senior partner in this axis of evil and much stronger and wealthier, it is obvious that china cannot afford, nor rely on russia 100%, and not all the more let it float freely and let it burn forever maybe, it would be ideal for china if russia won very quickly, for china a complete defeat and even more so the disintegration of russia is extremely unacceptable, but the defeat of russia and the current confrontation is also long, china is by no means smiling, and that is precisely why china opens a direct lendlis, such... for russia , as the united states, say, opens there , and putin is forced to negotiate directly with

iran, with north korea with the permission of china, but china will not directly participate in this. direct participation, which concerns the rest of the authoritarian countries, there are their own expectations, there are their own, there are their own geshefts in this war, especially with regard to iran, but i would not say that they somehow determine the internal policy in russia . in fact, the fact that the war does not end is the problem of one single person, putin. if putin was not afraid that admitting defeat and retreating is russian. troops will not lead to a loss of power and even less to life, as it happened to gaddafi or saddam hussein, he could retreat, but he fears for his life and therefore will continue this war as long as he can. thank you sir serhiy, serhiy grumenko are experts of the ukrainian institute of the future, and in the next part of our program with igor chelenka, we will talk about how, in fact, there are risks for democracy to lose to dictatorships, whether it is possible for democracy to become

, well, less democratic, to... to oppose, well, let me literally have a minute before we go on a break, it didn't take long, mr. igor, i will make the seed like this, is there a risk of democracy in its ideal form, in its ideal form, being weaker in a time of war, brutal, which today is imposed by a dictatorship, the risk of losing to a dictatorship, democracy at its core is competition , including competition, respectively, by an authoritarian, totalitarian regime, and today we have to...' talk about the competition between democracy and autocracy, which includes various regimes, today, and the most important issue here is that democracy does not turn into a simulacrum of itself, because we see that precisely authoritarian, totalitarian regimes, they constantly use democratic tools in order to come to power authoritarian leaders, we see it in the russian federation, we see it in

hungary, we see it in various. of the world and thereby we actually see that democracy is being tried to be discredited, although again we have to understand that democracy includes control, control over those procedures, over legislation, over the access of many parties and opportunities, according to activity freedom of speech, this is a number, this is a huge range of issues that in totalitarian states, despite the fact that they... are formally, are not formally totalitarian, but the rights of the citizens are being narrowed, and in this way we can now see the disappointment, the polarization of the whole world, because in democracies today they stand as the guardians of the current system of world order, and in autocracies, they see their way to development in revanchism today, and this is the main essence of the global conflict,

which is now gradually, well, we see , increase its degree, we will return to the conversation and continue our discussion, can democracy defeat a dictator in the time of brutal opposition in the time of actual war and methods this struggle, which is in the arsenal of democracy, which is in the arsenal of dictatorship , ihor chilenko and i will talk about it in just a few minutes, the pause is not long now, stay with us. every week, the saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world. vitaly portnikov, host of espresso and invited experts, based on facts and... their assessment and forecast of the development of events, want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday political club, every saturday on espresso. the war continues, and not only for territory, it is also a war for minds. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine

will become analysis and analysis of information about ukraine by russian propagandists. specific facts and methods by which enemy propaganda turns people into obedient zombies. residents countering russian information attacks in the information war chronicle project with olga len. tuesday, thursday, friday at 17:10 on espresso tv channel. we continue the democracy vs. dictatorship worldview program. who can might be in this confrontations, i will now announce the information from the israeli telegram channels, the warplanes of an unknown country, interestingly, an unknown country struck a convoy of trucks with weapons that was going from iraq to syria, well, from syria it is possible to go to israel, the strike was inflicted near the royal city of al-bukamal, well, this is for