[000:00:00;00] here is 300 million, so let's take this baby away and give it to those who really fight , to those who really defend our state, to those who deserve it, because people say that there they didn't give a vacation, they didn't give money, they promised to cover to give, at least something ubd, they didn’t give, it was ubd they didn’t give, they didn’t give anything, but as a beep, they gave everything at once, then everything, everything, thank you, please 891, dear colleagues, when they mention, they mention the last ones, about the last suspicions of one of the oligarchs, it must be said that there was another service, you confused, there was security service and others, nabu, but i think that if we are talking about the structure that is adding the most in percentage terms, this year alone, they are increasing the budget

by more than... 60%, it's kind of strange, i wanted to see their result, that's why we think it's better to give the military exactly those who are on the front, those who fight, those who risk their lives every day, the main intelligence, the military, those conscripts who were refused help, that's why we think that it is necessary to remove those 200 million from bebu and transfer to other articles, specifically for the military, thank you, please, 892, frieze. thank you, mr. chairman, yes, we are returning to bebu, yes, why is it necessary, and why does european solidarity demand that 200 million be withdrawn from the ineffective bebu. because we believe that it is more important to direct this money to the national guard, dpsu, pension provision, social protection,

for education, for scholarships, because it turns out that the amendments we made, which are 50 million for the national guard, are not there, 24 million are not for the state security service, 4 million are not for pensions and the pension fund, 21 million are not for social security, 12 million are for education as well there is no, 8 million for scholarships for graduate students and cadets, no, but there is 200 million for baby , then i have a question for you, what kind of state are you forming here now, is it repressive, are you trying to preserve the remnants of democracy, thank you, thank you, please 893 gerasimov, let's go, i already gave gerasimo the word, then i'll give you the procedures, thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych, look, well , as for beb, well, to be honest, this is just a vivid example of what we said, that this is not about the security sector and defenses, well, let's be honest, not prosector, they are nightmares business, and they are allocated additional money,

moreover, they will not have time for it. of course, if you read the analysis, how they can theoretically use this money, then in general it is a big question that this is some kind of very strange operation, so we are categorically against it, and what i would like to say is that the main source for this is the pddfo, and you you know that, for example, in the cherkasy region, yes, they voted to close several, several councils, including the cherkasy city council. and i am very curious how they will vote for it, arsenyuk, oleg oleksiyovych from cherkasy was elected, nagornyak, serhii volodymyrovych, also elected in this region, and iryna gerashchenko, who is also from cherkasy, i wonder how she will be, thank you , you mentioned them in a good context, the irynas, good, iryna volodivna, i wonder how you are will you

vote turn on gerashchenko. thank you, you know, i am very proud of cherkasy, a small region that received 117 resettlers. and it is obvious that for cherkasy, as well as for other regions, pdf funds are needed today, first of all, to support military units that are on the front line, in particular the cherkasy units of the teroborona were near popasnaya, fought very hard battles there and still remain, those who are in captivity, their families must be supported, and of course, funds are also needed for bomb shelters and other things, i want to say that in any country and in any parliament, the budget is considered for a long time, this is the norm, it is not a feat, it is the norm when budgets are considered, amendment by amendment, word by word, because we are not talking about our money, but about the money of taxpayers, so here are all flowers, there's applause, it's a little

inappropriate, friends, but... i want to tell you what happened it would be appropriate now to properly prepare all these proceedings and invite them to the committee in 10 days. thank you, please, from the honcharenko procedure. ah, dear colleagues, to be honest, i'm sorry, it's really here for pizza, someone is already running, and that's all, why create all this, what prevented us from starting work from october 1 , having a meeting in october , to work in general, as we used to work before the invasion, which prevents us, to work two sessional weeks a month, full-time, and consider everything normally, not on the run, and i have now question to us, 9:55 p.m., we have a curfew, mr. ruslan, we don’t have state security , no one will accompany us with flashers, and the time is approaching, we are not boh’s club, which

you can do here, sorry, he can also work at night , after all, we are the parliament of ukraine, the verkhovna rada, the curfew is approaching, i want to know how much further we will be, especially in conditions when our colleagues are still... no, let's continue tomorrow as normal, maybe some colleagues will come, oleksiy oleksiyovych , firstly, curfew it's 12 o'clock in kyiv, i'm reminding you, it's worth knowing, and secondly, maybe someone doesn't know, the voters don't know that the activities of recreation facilities are regulated by the city government, in which your faction is actively represented, the faction udar and the servant of the people are in the opposition there, so please direct questions about the improper operation of night clubs to the kyiv city government, which you ... actually head, thank you, thank you, let's move on, let's move on, bakumov's 895th amendment, deviation, what- that, now, right now

, we will get to your edit, please, dmytro oleksandrovich z procedures that you have, no, iryna volodymyrivna, you always have procedures and not procedures , dmytro oleksanovy, please, thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych, but our faction is not yet in. of the kyiv city council, so it is up to you to sort it out among yourselves, and regarding what my colleague mentioned , the curfew is really approaching, i would like to note, to which we then work, how the work of the verkhovna rada is ensured, and indeed, how much time do you plan to take for the people's deputies to the command hour, as it is determines the law, returned to the place. our permanent stay, we will not violate it, this is your area of ​​responsibility , and the apparatus, and ours, and we will definitely listen to the law, you know, i think that when we finish, it also depends on you and your

colleagues , and the sooner we finish, the sooner we will come to other duties. so, further, please , the next amendment, 895, bakum rejected, 896 800 oh, you are there, that's all, there is bakumov, oleksandr serhiyevich, and i looked there, you are not there, you constantly migrating, thank you, dear, dear lady committee chair, dear secretary of finance, i have a question, i have 400, 895 amendment is about reducing the funding of the bureau of economic security, the same amount that was taken from the national academy of legal sciences. i have a question, why did we take one galev national academy, the presidium of which is located in the city of kharkiv, in the indomitable city of kharkiv, and took this little bit of money and laundered it somewhere, don’t do this, if there is

an approach where we take from scientific institutions, at national scientific institutions, it must be balanced, and we take and pinch off from one sectoral academy micro. amount, there is still the one, whose presidium is located in the city of kharkiv, so i proposed to reduce it at the expense of the economic bureau. thank you, dear colleagues, bakumov's amendment 895, it was rejected by the committee, i ask you to vote, delay. the decision has not been made, unfortunately, let's move on, 896, 897, 898, 899, 900, dmytro

oleksandrovich, yours, please, ruslan oleksiyovych, returning to your question, how much time is given to us, we allocated exactly as much as each people's deputy determines, and your functionary, i simply, in order not to take away from the procedure within the framework of editing, so as not to waste your time, to ensure normal work, i asked a question. i am coming to you as the chairman of the verkhovna rada, i would like to hear a normal answer, how do you see it, how will the verkhovna rada of ukraine act and work today, within the framework of that law, within the framework of the norms by which the entire society of ukraine lives, we no different, right? therefore, i would like to understand how you see it, because if we that's how we'll approach it, i can simply continue to insist on each edit.

well, i'm definitely not in a hurry, i'm fine, and i hope you are too, and my colleagues still have to get home somehow, including to the left bank, that's why i asked you the question, i'd like to hear from you, as the chairman of the verkhovna rada , whose powers and obligations include compliance with the regulations of the laws of ukraine and ensuring the activities of the verkhovna rada, how the session of the verkhovna rada of ukraine will continue today. i thank you very much for the answer i hope to receive. thank you oleksandrovych, you know, for some reason i think that in order to fulfill the powers of deputies, people's deputies have a little more powers than are provided for by the law of ukraine on the status of a people's deputy, and it is stipulated that even during martial law these powers and these rights cannot be limited, in including the right to movement, this is what concerns the first, the first answer, the second, the second, with this approach. if we are going to say that let's

finish, because the curfew, and if god forbid we will have to meet like a curfew , so what can we say that we will not meet, because we have a curfew, we perform our duties the way we perform, thank you, dear colleagues, let's move on, 901, 902, 903, and 9001, please. razumkov 901. ruslan oleksiiovych, if we return to the fact that the powers of the people's deputy of ukraine cannot be impaired, i would also like to ask a question about business trips, ask a question about covering the work of the verkhovna rada, i'm just sure that you as a person consistent, you must take the same position in all issues, not only in the fact that , for example, today we are sitting in the hall with you in 30. people, where are all the others, then please ensure

that all other people's deputies are at work places, you are the chairman of the verkhovna rada, this is your authority, i am sure that you will cope with it, you know how to do it, you know how to do it, it is provided for by the laws of ukraine, the constitution of ukraine, because it is simple that we do not transform our work for a farce, so in this regard i completely agree with you, thank you, for fulfilling the duties assigned to me, i invite... to return to my workplace and perform my necessary functional duties. thank you, we can continue, dmytro oleksandrovych, 902, 903, 900. about what, about a business trip? in terms of business trips, the law of ukraine on the status of a people's deputy is exclusively governed. please, next, which is the 902nd. please, 902. ah, ruslan oleksiyovych, well, i would

not like to get personal now, but if the business trip to poland, which was, you banned the departure of all people's deputies who were invited to an economic forum, a large economic forum, unfortunately, i think this is a mistake, except for one representative of the servant of the people, at that time, and you can find out who, mr. dunda left for us abroad at that time, if i am not mistaken, he about this. i say once again, mr. dunda was not signed on a business trip, how did he leave then, look , it’s not up to me anymore, i don’t issue it, it’s up to you, you are the head of this body, once again, once again, i am not responsible for the activities of the people’s deputies abroad, you are responsible for the activities of the verkhovna rada, i say once again, the business trip of mr. dunda was not registered, i answered this answer sufficiently comprehensively, 903 sensibly, please, thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych. well, then, based on this logic, all other people's deputies

can also leave without your order? dmytro oleksandrovych, i do not give permission or not permission to travel outside the borders of ukraine, i do not do this, i only issue two things, these are issues related to vacations of people's deputies, as well as issues related to business trips to represent interests parliament, only these things. ok, ruslan oleksivych, then at the same time i would like to request to provide information from ... i also asked you and the apparatus how much budget money was spent on the trip of people's deputies, this request was read today, the relevant standards and deadlines are provided for there, you get any answer on this question, well, thank you, thank you, 904, please, razumkov, thank you, reksana andriivna, we will get back to you, if you do not mind, aleksanna andriivna,

please tell me why you were not taken into account corrections of mine and my colleagues, by, 700 million additional funding for sapa nabu, don't you think that in the growth of corruption, which our international partners are constantly talking about, we have to ensure the stability of these institutions, the stability of their effective work, so that really provide them with the opportunity to send the corrupt to the boot camp, why were these amendments not followed, it can be done at the expense of external borrowing, but unfortunately it was not done. on the committee, i wanted to hear your position, thank you in advance please, briefly, the position of the committee, by the way, will now be very interesting and probably a little paradoxical answer, but during the approval of the draft law with the international monetary fund, this respectable organization, which

takes great care of our budget and anti-corruption bodies, did not support the increase in general state expenditures budget, including for nabu and sap. thank you. next, the 95th amendment dmytro oleksandrovych. thank you raksalana andriivna, can you look at this letter and this information, i believe and trust you as always, but i really wanted to to see that they do not support it. maybe then as a next step they will propose to close these institutions altogether, but i hope that will not happen. because they already sent a lot of corrupt people abroad, behind bars, and some of them escaped abroad, this too, this is a freudian trick. that people

's deputies do not take part in negotiations with the international monetary fund, thank you, but can denis valeriyovych comment on this? because he is the person who conducts negotiations with the imf, come on denis valerich, i say that i will buy, sap expenses were not supported by the imf in this budget, regarding, regarding the parameters in the budgets, hear me, hear me, hear me, tell me what to budget parameters, all budget parameters. please turn on the microphone, i turned on, please, now hear, yes, so on the parameters of the budget, all the parameters of the budget, in terms of revenues, in terms of deficits, have been agreed with our international partners, the imf, and within this framework, it has been agreed, whether - what

increasing or changing these parameters leads to an imbalance of the program. thank you, please, 900. do you insist, please, oleksiyovych, i will have two edits 906, 952, please, let's combine them, yes, one minute will be enough for me, look, just about balancing the budget, what we it was not unbalanced, it did not go anywhere, we just proposed that we take 315 million from b, because there are 230 courts with all the guys that are there, but there are a lot of professionals there, but in general we should increase the financing of that structure, which was actually included in the budget, well, it's a bit strange, and even just for these two lines, we already save more than half a billion, instead, we propose

to add 800 million, just for special communications on uavs, just for drones, so on this is exactly what we are constantly talking about, that we... at the expense of some lines, we are saving and shifting to what is really necessary, and what is necessary at the front are precisely drones, that is why we did exactly that, thank you, dmytro oleksandrovich, we are returning to the previous format, 907, 908, 909, 910, 911 please dmytro oleksandrovich, ruslan oleksiyovych, no , probably not until we return, as long as we follow the existing format, 907th amendment, she's. from the program 65-203 redistribute the funds as follows: to the security service of ukraine uah 1.4 billion to the main intelligence directorate uah 1.4 billion to the specialized anti-corruption

prosecutor's office uah 700 million, to nabu - uah 700 million, we just talked about this, i absolutely do not want to argue with the imf, for that there are denys valerich, serhii mikhalovych, i think that he is professional with this and without me, but, i have another question, there is no additional expenditure here, there is nothing additional here, i am sure that the imf will not object if we strengthen, thank you, 908, please, dmytro oleksandrovich, and they will strengthen the capacity of sap and nabu, we are talking about gur today i talked a lot. anyway, there are forces to vote for it, unfortunately, there are no people in

the hall, if we are talking with you about sap, the same situation as with nabu, if we are talking about the sbu, they also need to allocate part of the funds for that they conduct more effectively the operations they carry out, which they talk about, in fact, there is also a large ... part of people who do not deserve respect and are true heroes of our state, but at the same time, dear colleagues, i would like to point out that exactly our smart policy team submitted a law that allows us to actually go into the regime of real punishment , serious punishment of corrupt people, thank you, please, 909 razumkov amendment, what i am talking about now, i am talking about a bill

that equalizes responsibility for state treason to punishment, corruption, punishment for treason, that is, from 15 to life, with confiscation of property, and unlike what the president said, but unfortunately, we did not see the bill in the walls of the verkhovna rada, i understand that pr - this is all ours, but we would like our pr staff not to disagree with the case, so we were waiting for an alternative from the president, unfortunately, he did not go to the walls of the verkhovna rada, well, we helped in this regard, there is our draft law, which equates corruption with punishment for treason, i.e. 15 or life imprisonment, but, unfortunately, the honorable conciliatory council, together with the leadership of the verkhovna rada, is not the law of the verkhovna rada. please 910 amendment.

sumkov, in turn, contrary to what the president said, we do not propose to take it to the sbu and hide cases there, but to leave it precisely in sap and nabu, structures that are not subordinate even to the president's office, and indeed, as of today are relatively independent, i really wanted to be independent in the full sense, so i hope, after all, that these amendments will supported, i will ask that 911 be put to a vote, and on the other hand, i would like to appeal to the people's deputies to , first and foremost, the servants of the people, to support the words of the president and vote for our sensible policy law on equalizing the punishment for wartime corruption to treason. it is fair to the military and our armed forces. and we put 911 to the vote

, i put 911 to the vote. razumkov's authorship was rejected by the committee. please vote. for 15, no decision has been made. 912 railway, 913 railway, 914 the railway, 915, and the 914 railway do not insist, they have already removed these amendments, the 915th, do not insist, the 916th, insist, please velichkovich, dear colleagues, if we are talking about the security service, which has recently shown , a successful special service in recent years, i believe that it deserves to be allocated additional

funds. we have seen those special operations carried out behind enemy lines, and working in the counterintelligence field, we see their involvement in attacks on crimea and other occupied territories, so i believe that if we will be able to allocate additional funds, he will be able to work even more efficiently, but this is on the condition that you, dear colleagues, support our amendment and vote for the allocation of additional funds for the security service of ukraine. put, yes, i put amendment 916, please vote, authorship of bonddar volychovych, the commit rejected. for 18, no decision has been made. the next

amendment, 917, please insist gerasimo. thank you, dear colleagues, why can't you vote for this law? i will tell you right away, the distribution of funds through local budgets, strangely enough, it is much more transparent and less corrupt than the distribution of funds through the central budget. if there are not enough funds, well, listen, we spend on the rada tv channel, if i'm not mistaken, 175 million uah per year, and that's 1,750 ma for a minute. which could be directed to the front, especially this tv channel, well, to be honest, in the form it is, it is pure propaganda and no one needs it, but i also want to remind you about the appeal regarding not taking vat from local budgets, and today i will bring an example from the ivano-frankivsk region, where the ivano-frankivsk regional council supported this decision, the ivano-frankivsk city council, and it will be very interesting how

the servant of the people deputies elected from the ivano-frankivsk region will vote for it. thank you, please , let's move on, next, 918 honcharenko, oleksiy honcharenko, friends, we are talking about adding funds to the security service of ukraine specifically for the performance of combat missions. the security service is also at the forefront today, and we have to support it too. we have to take money from the national marathon, who needs it, it is he who repels us from the war, why do you spend billions on him, here someone makes a smile, my tiktok, so at least the state does not pay a penny for this, but the results are more, even though people see what is happening, but what do people pay for their billion taxpayers for the marathon or hundreds of millions for the tv channel rada, just to look at

the same faces that tell them the same thing. and they tell, and it's not true, so friends, let's take these funds from them, give them to those in whose hands ours is really victory and our lives, to our military, armed forces of ukraine, national guard, dpsu, sbu, gur, it should be ours , thank you, please, 919 hancharenko, let's continue, and i will put 919 to the vote, definitely, i want to see how we will be . to vote, let everyone know, i want the ukrainians to know how we discuss here , how we react to everything, that we here ignore the issue of additional payments to the military, ignore, ignore the issue of absolute demobilization, an extremely important issue, pretending that it is not at all about that, well, there are some people there at the front, well

and let them always drag it on themselves, in our country disabled persons of the first and second groups do not have the right to resign from the social security administration, well , that's how long it will take ... issues that the verkhovna rada should consider, we are not even going to, we cannot, we met one day in october, so where are all the deputies, well, where are they, the speaker called them to come, they tell me here, someone in the kyiv rada is steering something, so you are here steer, you are greater servants of the people, where are your deputies, dear colleagues, i bet 919 amendment for voting, it was authored by erasymov, pavlenko, honcharenko, and it was rejected by the committee, i ask you to vote