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life is frank and impartial. you draw your own conclusions. espresso is the september leader among ukrainian information channels. we have held the championship for six months in a row. greetings, dear viewers, it's time to learn about the most important thing. according to measurement data, viewers choose exactly. the ukrainian view is repressed. congratulations friends, mykola veresin, vitaly portnikov. good health to everyone. we thank the ukrainians for their trust. espresso works for you. we return and now join the conversation of oleksiy holobutsy, a political technologist. glory to ukraine, mr. oleksiy. congratulations to the heroes. you know what, i was surprised in the last few days, two news that i really did not see.

already from many years of experience in journalism, to read something like this about baloga and about degnevich, about the mukachiv city mayor, about the mukachiv city mayor, i did not expect that there would be any searches, that these surnames would appear in the same sentence from nabu, from sap, and about the fact that this case will move, this is some kind of new signal that everything will be checked everywhere, and everyone will be reached, and it doesn't matter who you're with, well to be honest i don't know what the signal is, we 've been getting so many signals lately and not even lately, but over the years the day after yesterday was... created so

let's see how it is everything will come to a more concrete responsibility, so to speak, well, we understand, in principle, everyone who is at least a little interested in the criminal history of ukraine and not even the criminal, but the feudal basis of our country, knows very well what the balogi clan in transcarpathia is like, all politicians with it worked, he worked with all authorities, all of them great, so to speak, with some interruptions, perhaps, but everyone somehow found a common language with him, because he is real, he is the master of transcarpathia, well, if you want to show that you are really fighting against some kind of corruption, with some offenses, well, you have to probably, to start with such personalities, well, with such.

let's say so, oleksia, then maybe they will believe that this is for real, oleksia , you are right, first of all, we need to look at the fact that there are many loud searches, detentions, but at the exit there must be a court order, once, but if we already touched this one an interesting region, well, look, transcarpathia, yes, in fact, we are like feudal, come on, let's consider it as a feudal vodchyna, well, in the same style as, for example, kygebis derkach and its vodchyna called sumshchyna moya, regardless of what the authorities in kyiv , yes, in transcarpathia, it’s no secret, there were several such clans, so here is the medvedchukivsky clan, here is shufrycha , the territory, here are the balogs, and we will give mukachevo to the godfather, that’s all, here is a map of feudal transcarpathia, well, there is no shufrycha, as they say in transcarpathia, there is no medvedchuk either, because he is in russia, have taken up the baloch, this means that

feudalism will disappear in zakarpattia as a way of managing the regions, or they will simply put someone there, on some imaginary kolya tyshchenko, kolya obalonsky, or someone else. will some other feudal system be restored there, or will it finally be demolished? well, in order to completely demolish this feudal system that exists in ukraine, it is necessary to change, not only in zakarpattia, to change in all of ukraine, and in principle, what has been happening there during the last five or six years, the decentralization of the country , which basically of course yes, it opened a lot of opportunities for, including for such... but also transferred the responsibility of the citizens themselves for their fate, so that people could, so to speak, still understand that a lot depends on them precisely in those regions that they live that not all issues are decided by the president of the country or the verkhovna rada, but

we are now seeing a reverse process, what is it called in our country, reverse centralization, that is , reverse decentralization is taking place, and therefore which of these processes are we currently observing, i to be honest, i don't know, because there are examples that are, well, unpleasant, that really are, first of all, there is a very primitive way, yes, i won't talk about this example, yes, so that i don't, don't start some, i don’t know how to conduct business, but this is such a common way, yes , to run over, whitewash, ticket and drive away , so to speak, this is a very common way of work of law enforcement agencies, maybe it is, everyone knows that over the past year and a half, people who work , or who have some opportunities in transcarpathia, have gilded themselves on the most profitable commodity that is now available in ukraine,

it's just people, it's just that there's a lot of money there, it's just that somehow i remember, i counted how many were caught there by this unfortunate man, what certificates he issued, medical, yes, and there the sums were simply unbelievable, and here completely different, completely different amounts , well, shake him, so to speak, what he shared, this is also an important moment, and, well, you said correctly, mr. oleksiy, we just have one minute left, well, as they say, the monetization of various services, as well as criminal cases is practice, unfortunately, has been sad for the last 30 years, at the last minute i wanted to ask you, because there is a long series... a political one played within the walls of the verkhovna rada, we saw it, today’s deputies do not even receive funds in envelopes, they are generally considered worthless in the ears of the president, yes, that they themselves have to pay for what they are in the verkhovna rada, that's why they're not , that's why they're sitting on bare rations and, as

it's called, church rubles will be absolutely not superfluous for them, so this process may drag on, but mr. oleksiy, times have changed. those times when comrade kluy personally went to the verkhovna rada with a suitcase, this is already the history of ukraine, but no one now carries cash and distributes it directly on the second floor, well then, and then the deputies were different, the deputies who could, could influence something, something on something, were different, and the prices there were others, as they would say, piotr simonenko, who always sold his beloved vote to... because real estate is expensive in spain. thank you mr. oleksiy for the conversation. oleksiy golobuts, political technologist, situation modeling. this is exactly what he presented us with his point of view, but we know that our colleague, yehor checherinda, now will ask about the point of view of his

guest today, we see yegor, we see that the weather seems to be sunny, so the conversation should go well, interestingly and not be distracted by the wind. yegor, where... and with whom will you talk today, thank you colleagues, today it is indeed very warm and sunny in kyiv, and yes, as if the women did not... summer has come, on saturday there is generally +22 or +23 there, according to the forecast, we talked yesterday with viktor shlinchak, unfortunately we did not reach an agreement, we discussed political topics, today we will also continue them, under the walls of the ukrainian the ministry of foreign affairs, together with oleg rybachuk, the deputy prime minister of ukraine, in the past specifically on issues of european integration , mr. oleg, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, thank you for the weather, well , yes, thank god for the weather, let's start with yesterday's topic, which was the top topic of the day, today the discussion is very active, yesterday rustem umerov, the new ukrainian... not yet the prime minister, the minister of defense together with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky, who unexpectedly also joined

the minister of defense and they went to brussels for another ramshtein, and i'm reading today's report, rustem merov says that according to the results of yesterday's mess, ukraine will receive $500 million in aid , half a billion dollars is quite a large amount, he said, almost half a billion received aid, it is air defense, ammunition, preparation for winter and f6. umerov said, according to him, it is now very important to ensure the needs of the armed forces to survive the winter. what are your personal impressions of yesterday's meeting and the results we received? presented the new minister of defense, colleagues, please, it led to such a stunning result, because it must be said that this ramstein took place against the background of the war in israel, and now the world community, the attention was diverted there and rusnia dispersed the topic, well, what do they say.

arrived now, they will forget about ukraine, switch to israel and ukraine will remain there, as putin said, well , they will be able to spend a week there without weapons, but it turned out exactly the opposite, and another statement that is very important for us, what about this, in brussels a statement was made about the unanimous decision and confirmation of nato member countries about the inevitability of ukraine's membership in nato, that is, this combination of political guarantees that we will be in nato and the weapons that we received, i noticed this morning that again the british, they often act as trendsetters, such an old ukrainian word , they set a new, new impetus for armaments, they supply ukraine with the most modern types of weapons to fight drones, all-weather, autonomous with their generators, which can

simply destroy, drones are just like shelling them like a small seed, and this is the most modern, i confirm, no country in the world has had this weapon yet, and therefore it speaks of a result that russia probably did not expect, russia really expected that there would be some kind of switch there attention, and we are now hearing such a message that ukraine and israel are a single front of the struggle between authoritarian countries and democratic ones. and one more thing that i really like is that the world has responded to such a challenge no longer, with talk of concern, not with some red lines, but we see american squadrons are moving towards israel, we see the formation of a bloc such as the united states, great britain, france, germany, which say that they are ready to act with force and give a military response to attempts to fan this flame, because in short, what is happening now is an attempt to dismantle the world security system, and ukraine and israel are just on

the other side, on one side of the barricade, and russia, china, iran, north korea are others and, on the other side of the good and evil, well, there is already one shock the aircraft carrier group has arrived in the mediterranean sea and the second is the american one on the approach, let's also talk about the fact that ukraine is in this company that you mentioned, the influential washington post wrote about it the day before, about what the white house wants to include. package ukraine and israel, which it is submitting documents for providing military and financial aid to the american parliament, the day before today or yesterday, cnbc also wrote that taiwan can be added to our two ukraine and israel, that is, ukraine, taiwan and israel is going in one package in terms of submission to the congress, since in the congress and in the senate, as i understand it, there are problems with the passage of such sums, yesterday we spoke with our aviation expert viktor shlichak, he said that he has information that

the republicans plan to reduce this aid for next year from 100 billion to 40 billion specifically for ukraine , that is, there is a consensus for 40 billion, for 100, as was previously planned, there is no, are there really problems in passing all these amounts of financial aid through the american parliament, please, well it is necessary to talk about such an important aspect as the fact that the decision on or the law on the allocation of foreign aid should be made by the congress, the house of representatives, and there is currently no speaker, well, surely our viewers know that without a speaker, it is not even possible to form order day, and one more thing is important, that in fact we have more than enough votes among the democrats and among the republicans to help ukraine, and there the issue of sum is already the subject of separate conversations there, although experts, my sources there say that about

100 billion, well, it is probably such a dream for us, because we may not receive such an amount, but the fact that both republicans and democrats... are ready to vote for the bill, and we are talking about the fact that it can be a bill, in which includes israel's support for ukraine, you added taiwan, maybe taiwan too, the republicans say, it's not me , it's the american media who added it, yes, the american, well, that's all, that's all that's being analyzed, maybe it's going to taiwan, and that's understandable, because again, it's about how to protect democratic countries from the invasion of authoritarian ones, there are votes, but to put the issue on the agenda, a speaker is needed, and here are the candidates for the speakership, who immediately announced that they are not going to support ukraine, that is, this is such a strange situation for ukrainians, you have an absolute majority of votes, but this does not mean that the issue will go to a session of congress, and there are certain negotiations taking place around it now, and here the white house offers

various options, including if there is a combination of ukraine, israel, taiwan, well that in fact, politically... it is impossible not to support such a project. mr. oleg, well, one more message from our colleagues, the american journalists of the financial times , that is the american publication, or the british, british, sorry, the british edition of the financial times, they reported that even a temporary pause in the aid provided by the united states to ukraine can to stop the offensive of the ukrainian armed forces and allow the russian troops to restore their combat capability, reports the financial times, according to american and british analysts, apparently, that you do you think that there is now an understanding at the events of our western partners of this need to support dynamics on the front line, which is directly related to the provision of financial military aid, absolutely, and this understanding is first of all president biden, he has spoken about it more than once , and it is the president's administration that is currently dealing with the fact that there is no such break

, in order not to disperse a slightly panicky mood, we should note that by the end of the year we have, regardless of what happens in the congress, by the end of the year we have funding 200 million has been allocated there, according to various estimates, 3-5 billion remained, in a word, until the end of the year, but in order for the continuity of the process, the americans already need to purchase weapons now, otherwise it will not be the case that we allow the decision will be made somewhere around the new year, then there may be a break, which is a danger, and putin has already drawn attention to this, for russia, this is a very wrong signal, for russia it is a signal that there may be such a break and for russia - this is a certain incentive to increase offensive operations, for russia this is an encouragement to drag out this war, because what israel is doing now in the gas sector is a very harsh response, and once again the americans and the leading european states acted very harshly there, i think that we, as ukrainians, imagine what would have happened

if the american squadron had entered the black sea somewhere last year, what happened would not have happened. but this is also another argument for me, because the americans seriously offered us, remember, to conclude the same agreement on security guarantees as with israel, and we have many skeptics who said, well, it is not known how it will work, but you and i will now carefully monitor how the bilateral agreement with ukraine works, that israel is the main american military ally outside of nato, well, it has such a status, mr. olsya, let's talk about israel, let's continue, today a government of national unity was formed in israel, which included representatives of the opposition, which until now, before the time of this terrorist attack, did not enter, what benjamin netanyahu, the head of the government, said, today we formed a government of national unity, the people of israel are united, the fate of israel is at stake, he said, every member of hamas is mortal and we will destroy them all, as the world once destroyed the idol, the islamic state, please tell me, well, today there was

information about what israel can do with an unofficial, or with an official, sorry, visit. to pay a solidarity visit to ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi. how do you rate all these stories about the creation of a government of national unity, these are important minutes and hours and days for israel, and volodymyr zelenskyi's potential visit there. i'm ukrainian, i'm just comparing, this is the first reaction, i'm comparing how we reacted to the beginning of the war, and of course, we didn't have any government of national unity. we now have serious problems with governance. and in these letters of happiness, as the experts from the united states there and from the european union called it, it is precisely about the fact that we need a techno technocratic, professional, independent from the street banking government that could perform its functions, and it was very well suited b under the government's formula national unity, this is salvation in ukraine, this formula has existed for a long time, but it is more

declared than implemented, and i will also draw attention to the fact that despite the war in israel, well , a single telethon did not appear, and many experts talk about this certain restrictions on freedom of speech, which are very difficult to explain, but zelensky's visit to israel. would be very necessary, very premature, and i would say that this is a chance to really change the situation, because prime minister netanyahu, he is such a political survivor, he is a putin sympathizer, he has been talking about it for a long time, but now in in the relations between russia and israel, the tension is obvious, israel, when he explained his reluctance to help ukraine, talked about the fact that , you know, russia is there, it influences hamas , hezbollah, on our borders, it is very important for us that it does not get annoyed, because it is certain guarantor of israel's security, now we have seen, the israelis have seen the price of russia and there is an opportunity to really review the strategic partnership between our countries. mr.

oleg, it should be noted that we still have a couple of minutes, it should be noted that the huge jewish lobby in the world is in other countries, not only in israel, the visit of the ukrainian president to israel is the acquisition of allies not only in israel itself, netanyahu was really like ours, yours, many are now fasting all his pre-elections. or bordy, where he and putin took pictures before the knesset elections and hangs on the banners , will the attitude of the israeli government, well, and the attitude of israeli society towards the russian threat, terrorist in particular, really change now after this terrorist attack, well, russia is as effective as possible in this direction works, statements russian propagandists, statements of officials, there is the same soygu, who recommended that the israeli army learn from the russians effectively. to fight, the statements of many political figures, and the main thing is that the influence of the pro-russian lobby in israel will now be significantly reduced, i think that for netanyahu, yaki is

a political animal, it is absolutely clear for him that he has no other chance to survive than to become part of a united democratic union, which ukraine definitely includes, so it seems to me that you are right about the lobby, but again in in ukraine, it was a paradoxical situation for me, we have a president and we have many jewish politicians in ukraine, we have an open act of aggression, we always compared ourselves to israel, we said that we live next to a crazy neighbor, the parallels were obvious, but something was missing, there was not enough help, i think that now this instinct will work in netanyahu and again public opinion, jews in israel, jews in the world make it impossible to ignore cooperation and not be... for israel allies in ukraine. thank you, oleg hrybachuk, ex deputy prime minister for european integration, was in direct contact with us from the walls of the ministry of foreign affairs. thank you for the inclusion, mr. oleg, i pass

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