will not distract the attention of the western world from the ukrainian problem, the assurance was one hundred percent, it will not distract, the west will continue to be with us. sergey thank you, yura, it was yuriy fizar, he is currently working in brussels, where the meeting of the contact group in the ramstein format is taking place. we wish a productive continuation, tomorrow, yuriy, well , we will continue, valery chala will continue our work. again, a diplomat and politician, a person who knows everything, or practically everything, about the foreign policy of ukraine, so mr. valery, it is clear that the attack of hamas on israel - this is a challenge to the world, but this challenge is already a consequence, let's say, of such a soft policy of the world, of most countries of the world, towards the policy of russia and russian aggression against ukraine, it is clear that it is obvious that...' the federation

also received a worthy rebuff from the event over the past year and a half, and russia would have stopped its aggression against ukraine, then obviously there would not have been this conflict or - this attack by hamas on israel, the absence of rules, violations of international law, russia's aggressive actions remain unanswered, or let's say no no to that extent she is. is responsible for that is happening in ukraine, in your opinion, who and how in this situation can stop the aggressive side, which we call the axis of evil, because you mentioned the third point that can appear on the world map, you talked about africa, but there have already been military coups in the last two months, if i'm not mistaken, there have been five or six , military... coups, does that mean that

the third point in this situation could be taiwan, south korea, you mentioned, so what something that will turn all these conflicts into a single background, i.e. confrontation evil states against civilization, countries of civilization, well, i'll tell you my version, that is, i just see what's going on... the distribution of the world and the desire of china, its vassals russia, obviously, iran, and in this context, the united states , is such a douchebag , the european union, that is, about changes to the order, someone wants to break it, and someone wants to return the normal rules, so in my understanding, these are all coordinated actions, they are not... necessarily

coordinated in real time, just these destructive forces , they understand that it is time to attack, i come out of this is why i also consider africa as a very difficult region, because the wagnerites and the russian mercenaries are no longer wagnerites anymore, they simply eliminated this game, well, these leaders of wagner and all, there are already others. taken over, but in africa they can just attack those countries that are more pro-western, that hope to keep the support of the western world, so i think it's not out of the question, that's right, but if we talk about south-north korea, then just the situation there is very dangerous, because until recently... those agreements which

have been maintained, they have somehow maintained some stability on that demarcation line, but, well, if there was an agreement, we'll see that, i can't confirm that now, before the destabilization, then we'll see the measures that are taken or the new ways that can to be used by south korea, i.e. defending against drone attacks by the north. korea, some subversive groups, i do not rule out that south korea will simply abandon the agreement, which does not guarantee anything, i do not rule out that there may be ballistic missile launches from north korea, and the rejection of, or the beginning of this is the demonstrative beginning of russia's withdrawal from the treaty banning the testing of nuclear weapons, that is, all this will be a chain

aimed at weakening the position of the united states , first of all, and the entire coalition, because after all, the united states is holding the ramstein format together with other countries, by the way, it is very positive that the head of the united states department of defense emphasized the role of other countries, and germany, and great britain, and poland, and others who provide more assistance relative to their gross domestic product, that is, than even the united states, not in absolute numbers, but just like that, so all this is really happening right now, before our eyes. construction of a new world, it is already clear that it will not be a multipolar world, it will be two poles. at one pole there will be, well, relatively speaking, countries with democratic governance systems, at the other pole authoritarian and dictatorial countries, and these countries suddenly began to approach

each other, countries such as russia, north korea, syria, in the same row, iran, this countries. which in the world they have already been recognized by some of them as terrorist countries, that's why terrorism is not just some small group , it's whole systems or countries, and suddenly they started to get closer to each other, look how far north korea is, well, there we have a small border with russia, but everything is the same as iran where, where is russia, where is cuba, where is syria, they all began to block each other in order to deliver, they think, such an unpredictable, massive, coordinated attack on the forces that are trying to maintain this world order, and it will build up, this only the beginning, in fact, putin brought the war to europe, starting aggression against ukraine.

in fact, everyone expected an escalation, either in the middle east or in south asia , but this is not the end of the story, so we will have to live with it for the next decades, until... a new distribution of forces in the world will be established and we basically have a choice done, we are on the side of those who preserve democracy, we do not want to return to the system, the authoritarian, the rigid system, which is being built by the same north koreans who, despite the fact that they are starving people, they spend money on ballistic missiles, what is putin doing now, he also takes away, relatively speaking, all social benefits for the poor and directs them to the military-industrial complex, that is, these countries act at the same time, and we, why are we vulnerable , nor the usa , neither the countries of europe nor ukraine can afford to throw everything into arms , they know it, they know that their people are ready for such a style, because they

have set up an information blockade from the whole world, they use propaganda means to direct people to war, but paradox according to because in order to establish a just peace, it is necessary to give them a powerful forceful response right now. today a forum was held in russia, russian energy week, it's called, and the prime minister of iraq appealed to putin at this forum to act as a peacemaker in the palestinian-israeli conflict, let's listen to what he said. need to pay it is necessary to unite the forces of good, that is why i appeal to you, as the president and permanent member of the council of the united nations, to take the initiative to stop the real a ceasefire and a real solution to the palestinian problem. well, putin

also spoke at the same forum, let's listen. the problem today is that the regulation mechanisms were created, but in the united states. over the past few years, they did not use these mechanisms and decided to regulate everything independently, they did not use these mechanisms, in recent years they made a bet on satisfying the material needs of the population living in the palestinian territories, in fact they tried to replace the solution of the fundamental... political problems, some material taxpayers. mr. valery, when putin talks about the fact that these , as he says, "shitholes" have been replaced by fundamental political issues,

he obviously means the creation of a palestinian state, because he has been talking for the last few days about the fact that the un council has , look at this question and consider. the question of the creation of a palestinian state, let's explain to our viewers why there is a conflict between hamas or even an attack by hamas on israel and why putin' talks about the creation of this palestinian state and what does it threaten or what consequences will it have for the current world and especially the middle east? you want to make such a question difficult, well, in short, hamas is a separate story, it is terror, now the west bank of rittsirodam, this is the second part of the palestinian state, is controlled by hama, and by the more moderate fat, and fat does not

attack israel, that is, autonomy exists, everything is calm in jerusalem, for today, a paradox, yes, that is, putin is fanning the palestinian-israeli conflict, arab-israeli, and the us wants to stop it, putin is acting insidiously, he wants, he really wants to sow chaos. and raise the arab countries of israel, then about handouts, in fact, there are un programs financed by the usa, financed by china, financed by russia, and russia knows very well that with these programs, financing on the territory of the gas sector, food, humanitarian, russia has brought its agents, russia collapsed here because of international organizations, its presence, they understand it perfectly. therefore, do not believe, he is a liar, he clearly understands what he wants

to sow chaos, he wants, his words are roughly like this, you thought you would solve this issue yourself, and you have already succeeded, talks have already begun with saudi arabia to somehow settle the situation, the arab world began to decide that it is necessary to give israel the opportunity to develop peacefully, and here suddenly comes putin wreaking havoc and then offers to divide the usa. this responsibility is influence, that's all, the position is clear, let me go there again , because i can kill her, but i can also stop hamas, this can be read, my iraq, i told you that iraq is also difficult situation, and anything can develop there, so putin's goal is to stir up the arab-israeli conflict, and there is no such conflict today, there is an attack by hamas terrorists. which do not recognize the palestinian autonomous government against the state of israel.

that's all, but what russia wants, they feel great when there are conflicts, when there is war, conflicts, then they become more useful, in the dialogue with the united states, and the goal is very simple, we help you, the united states, to stop the war in the near go east, and you leave it to us to take care of ukraine. all, this is the goal, well, that is, as far as i understand, this is the principle of the 90s, when you came to some company, created problems for someone there, then another group came and said, listen, you have some conflict there, let 's solve everything now, well, that is, putin is acting in the role of a kind of world decider , well, in the middle east, because the prime minister, iraq, who is from iran, who addressed him, and representatives, parts. arab countries, which also play along with putin, they are now trying to legitimize him internationally

in the political arena and create the image of such a peacemaker, his blood is simply ukrainian blood, and now he will decide something there, under what conditions, this peacekeeping function, putin's peacekeeping function can somehow be perceived in the public domain, whether the aircraft carrier group that arrived to the shores of israel - this is putin's answer to efforts to inflame the arab-israeli conflict even more and drag the countries that are part of the league of arab countries into it and turn the middle east into hell? and so it is, in principle now they are holding meetings with the league of arab countries and with the countries of the region, you know. that the arab countries also have certain differences in their attitude towards israel

, for some, as for hamas, the chizbals of those groups that are not just terrorists, they control certain territories, that is, it is such a quasi-state, i would say, because to say that it is simple some small terrorist group, it's not like that, there are 2 million residents there, and many... who of them participates in these attacks, so in principle, the desire is for the states to get involved additionally, then, taking into account the influence and presence of russian mercenaries, well, as we say, wagnerites, although there are other groups in syria, and the influences that have remained since the time of the soviet union in the region, namely russia, they then want to offer their services, but the value of such

proposals will increase as the conflict in the middle east escalates, if god willing it will end quickly enough, well , it obviously does not look like days, it is already according to the statement of the minister of defense of israel, they will act to destroy the base of hamas and their production missiles, then it will take quite a long period, and if other countries do not intervene , which the usa has sternly warned about, then maybe it will stop somewhere in the coming weeks and months, but if it succeeds, god forbid... inflame the arab-israeli conflict, then, of course, putin will rub his hands together. then objectively, russia has influence on some countries, interaction, and then, the americans will be forced to conduct a direct dialogue with all parties that can affect the stop, so far it is not obvious, i hope that putin

will fail, for this we need the actions of israel effective, and allies, well, it is very difficult, but we understand that with such an operation , if it is on the ground, then there will be casualties, including civilians, and this is a very difficult story, because then we will see another war, information, all over the world, and what we ukrainians have heard, that it is necessary to stop shooting, will increase more and more in relation to israel, but israel will not stop, because the military doctrine of israel. it is not designed to de-occupy the territory and stop it, they have a different doctrine, c their territory is small, and there is no operative distance for such a doctrine, that is why they have a doctrine to destroy the capabilities of attacks on israel, and that is why they are forced to have such attitudes in the political plan inside the country, and

in general, it is understandable, after such bullying and inhuman actions. there will not be such a simple solution, therefore the most difficult thing awaits us, the next ones, maybe in a week or two, then we will see how the situation will develop, so far russia is the beneficiary, if there is a protracted war, then russia objectively has more chances get involved in this already at such a political level, and then it will be bad for us, because attention will be diverted to the middle east, and putin will be forced to listen to countries that now recognize him as a war criminal, but i hope that we will avoid such a scenario, although it is now quite incredible, but measures must be taken to avoid it and the americans will send their

anti-existence group very quickly, and such a warning is action. obviously, mr. valery, the americans want to warn iran against possible actions or support for the already wider apparent hamas, because john kirby, the representative of national security, the national security council of the white house, said that there is no evidence that iran is involved in the attack of hamas on israel, but that terrorist networks, including hamas was supported by iran, it is absolutely obvious and the leaders of iran publicly thanked and said that it is good that hamas finally did what it dreams of, obviously iran, but in this situation, if suddenly, the scenario that we talked about with you, this multi-layered a scenario where there is ukraine, and african countries, and south-south korea, and possibly

taiwan, if this is the architecture of this chaos. and wars in the world is iran's place, if iran suddenly, a major power that can join this war in the middle east, what will that mean for us, given that, well, i think the americans will do their best to to neutralize iran's capabilities, well, this is a very multi-scenario development, i don't even dare to predict, because, well, you say, iran will go to war against israel, it will really a catastrophic situation, and the consequences cannot be foreseen. but iran, i think, would be afraid to do that because right now their goals are to get their nuclear

capabilities. after all, israel is a nuclear power, although it is not official, iran has received many such steps towards it from the united states. i remind you that the us unfroze 6 billion dollars for iran for their money, but which was used terroristically, so, well, their actions would be very risky, they understand that if they suddenly incur the wrath of an ally israel, the united states, then the consequences for iran will not be foreseen, russia will not help, russia cannot , unlike the united states, simultaneously direct the continents in different directions, they have attracted the country, well, according to various estimates, 80% of everything they have that is capable, only 20% is kept somewhere. and on its western border and in the far east, that is, everything is most effectively involved in the war with ukraine, so putin

has nothing to help iran, i hope that they calculate this with all the balance of forces, so i still think that the countries not will enter, for now, not yet... china, because china is a partner of the russian federation, and china also has ambitions to control arab countries, or to cooperate with arab countries, in particular saudi arabia, putin, as already announced, next will visit china next week, and this was announced by his assistant yuriy ushakov, there will be a forum, and a large forum, at which vladimir putin is to speak or be present, what do you say about the role and capabilities of china now

and in the world and in this region, and about how china's position can affect both the middle east and russia, which is fighting against ukraine, and we know that xi jinping will meet with... joe biden in november in washington, what he can talk about and what can be discussed at putin's talks with the leaders china and what is china's role in the world now? china did not reach the number one position in the world , as they aimed for, the usa remains on various indicators, if taken as a world leader in total, but china is not for nothing... leaves the idea, first to dominate in its region, and then to spread its influences on the whole world, including its own model, in fact, management and life, that is, this

model is specific, and in principle, i will tell you, i would very much not like to live in the conditions of the chinese model, er, therefore, it seems to me that putin, who goes there as a vassal, rather demonstrates and creates a mass for the chinese leader of his great goals, which he announced at the party congress. china is, after all, a country that works strategically, and china tries to avoid direct violations of international law or international rules, and they occupy quite a i would say such a cynical position, even not only in relation to ukraine , when they said both hundred should not stop, not noticing that russia is attacking ukraine, well, that is cynical, but they say the same thing in

israel, that hamas is attacking, the two sides do not have to find an understanding, this is not the position that will bring this country to the first place in the world, absolutely, but they do not understand that such a position is not sincere or that does not correspond to reality, that it will make them. some kind of leader there to reduce all positions of education and all models of development to some single one the chinese version, moreover, i do not at all think that china in the next decade will be as we see it now, i think that china has a lot of internal problems that this country has not yet faced, from the point of view of a developed internal economy, the middle class, and this model , which they have now gives an economic... result, it will not be a year, but today, of course, china has a desire to dominate in its region, they no longer consider russia a country that can create

problems for it. moreover, i see that they will expand in russia more economically and gradually displace the russians there with their population in the far east, that is, let's say, in distant points, they have increased their presence in recent years, and this applies to the east, they have not yet reached this region, but saudi arabia, for example, some solutions with the arab countries , they contributed to this, so it seems to me that it is logical if china has positioned itself in the middle east as a country that can find a solution, and here they suddenly, well, dramatically change a position in support of terrorists or russia there, it will not be like that, so i believe that this visit of the russian leader will be more ceremonial, a demonstration of respect for swizieren, and will achieve its goals, in particular, they saved 10

billion dollars over the last year to reduce the price at dumping prices from russia and from other countries, only because russia under sanctions cannot sell oil at such prices, you know, so china will squeeze everything it needs now economically from russia, and what it needs politically military, the only risk is that russia, in such a vulnerable position, is now giving away technology, well, they already say that it has passed it on to china, i don’t know how true it is, let’s see about underwater nuclear, that is, china is building suitable nuclear boats, already other technologies, recently they lost one submarine, a nuclear bavaria, but they are building two more, and russia, unfortunately, can give both china and iran , not even its own technologies, but also soviet technologies, which today still somewhat prevail,

technologies of china, and even more so of northern ukraine. it is very dangerous that russia and its leaders are selling everything, exchanging everything for nothing to simply hold, to hold power over the russian population, on russian territory, and these countries simply decided, i mean the countries that the logic of this is primarily china, they simply decided to read it, they will take full control, so far russia is useful, it acts as a proxy, well. as for iran, hamas is a proxy, they say, iran is not behind hamas , there is no confirmation, so how many, and where did these rockets come from, they just took them, they assembled them from bicycle engines of some kind there, yes, chumps, suddenly rockets were assembled for 200 km , well, we all are we understand that this is not done in one day , they planned this attack for two years, so did russia, it is strengthening china with some technologies, and china is still using...

russia as a proxy in attacks on the usa. this is the main superlative. but everything will be decided at the meetings between the usa and china. if the meeting in california in november does not fail, then i think there is a lot going on about the personality and the president of the usa. although , of course, now china, with the help of russia and iran , is trying to raise the stakes in these negotiations. you already mentioned this help, which apparently came from iran, to hamas militants, and that it was not in one day, not in a week, not in a month and not even in a year, but in several years, that is, during these five days, the tense situation in israel and after attack by hamas, most people ask a fairly simple question, that is, how, how did it happen

that israel, which... has always been ready for war, and we know that the israeli special services, these are the special services that work in advance, and we we know that the israeli idf, it is a large enough organization, if we also take the reservists, who, what they are being brought there from all over the world in order to form this great army, 300,000 , it seems they have a reserve, i... how did it happen that it was unexpected for everyone, because to mount such a large attack and the first two days, as the israelis themselves admit that they lost the first two days of the war because they were caught off guard, can you explain to me, how, how could this happen in israel? no, i will not speculate, that.