glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health, today in the program. ukraine, israel, who's next, global terrorism is on the rise, what role does russia play in this? unpunished evil begets even more evil when the west finally realizes that dictators cannot be negotiated at the table of the last. they promise that the aid will not decrease, the details of the new defense package from the us. results of ramstein-16, what did the partners promise to ukraine? we will talk about this and other things during the next hour with ours as guests, army general mykola malamuzh and diplomat oleksandr khara and andriy deshchytsa. however, before starting this big conversation.

i suggest watching a video of the combat work of the air defense of ukraine on the night of october 12, in total, that night the defense forces of ukraine shot down 28 shaheds in the sky of ukraine, let's see, mykola, we see him, come on. yeah.

friends, for those who are watching us live on youtube right now, please like this video and also take part in our poll, today we ask you who you trust the most, options for answers to the president, the armed forces, the church, volunteers, your option, please write in the comments , i want to introduce today 's first guest, he is a general of the army of ukraine, former head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine, mykola malomush, mr. general, i am you congratulations, glad to see you on our air, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. general budanov stated that the uighurs see several conflicts that at first glance appear to be regional in the world, but they are all interconnected, and it seems that we are talking about the prospect of a global war in the world, let's listen to what general budanov said.

first of all, we clearly know the facts that trophy weapons, let's say, for a rather long period of time, were still transferred to hamas groups, there is information that something happened to the dehbels, but this is not reliably known, but to hamas came, in addition, everyone could see even on youtube, yes, absolutely such, let’s say, natural for our region and completely unnatural tactics for the near east, when epivdrones were used against armored vehicles, this, as they say, is the know-how of ours, our war, my subjective opinion is that if the conflict is limited in time, let's say, quite quickly, up to a few weeks, in principle there is nothing to worry about if this situation drags on, it is quite clear that there will be certain problems

with the fact that armed ammunition will have to be supplied not only to ukraine, according to the totality of countries that are involved in one way or another in this process, yes, and we see , several conflicts that at first glance appear to be regional, except for ukraine, yes, but they are all connected to each other. by the same countries, so it 's a network if you will, so yes, i think we're moving pretty quickly to a global war after all. mr. general, do you agree with general budanov's statement that the world is going to a global war, or simply put, to the third world war, well, the world itself is not going, that is to say, there should be some perspectives and vision. and

clearly the effective actions of the first- level policy and the country that determine the prospects world processes, they prejudge the war, and it should be so in ukraine as well, it is clear even before the war. this is the first component, in the same way in the near east, about which in the middle east, this is the israeli-arab conflict, we know all the plans, bodan says, and this has been for decades and the last years and months, which has the geopolitical plans of russia, china , respectively, iran, the arab countries, specifically, israel, what are the contradictions and what are the scenarios of events, how are the models of creating political and economic contradictions, the operative combination by the action of the russian federation, curators who coordinate the issue of hamas hezbollah, respectively the islamic state, consolidation with iran, syria , respectively, with those armed formations that can either create a local conflict or create a global conflict, one of the topics is the formation of opposition to israel,

the western world , that the first usa, with the countries of the arab world, starting , for example, strikes in a massive operation against israel , predicted that not only hamas would be involved, but syria would be involved, a number of arab countries would be involved, and then they would already be behind iran should stand by, and the russian federation, and of course, china, will coordinate on the issues, others will have their benefits, political, economic, and security in general, in terms of weakening the west, unbalancing western support for ukraine, which will reduce the possible resistance to the aggressor . , and russia, which should act as such a legal myrrh. but the coordinator of those combat operations, on the other hand, as a platform for negotiations, for example, the meeting of the league of arab states, negotiations with israel, without russia, they will say nothing will be resolved, that is, the world will recognize us, the world will go to concessions, to negotiations to reduce support, precisely to ukraine and financial,

military, respectively, because there is a new threat, a new threat, of a global confrontation, as we are with the arab the world, and there is still such a model, it is already... i say this clearly , it is the creation of a confrontation between the christian, but western world and the muslim world, it is the idea of ​​a number of, say, countries and first of all our neighbor, who is also considering this scenario, well i 'll say it straight, it won't work, these scenarios, which budan is talking about, we have long calculated in a different period, and now they are partially trying to implement it, so it is a worked-out clear model, of course , the neutralization of hamas, accordingly, the warning of hisbala and it did not go to iran as well. not intervention, for this purpose not only the strong means of israel are provided, but the intervention of the first united states is provided, and it is not for nothing that powerful aircraft carriers have also pulled up there, and this is a prerequisite for creating stability in the region at the global level, when neither iran, nor lebanon, nor syria

will go to open war, therefore in this situation, i think that we are already talking about mastering the process, although not yet to the end, we still need to carry out many combat and operational tasks, diplomat. accordingly, the negotiations with ali abbas and others, that is, those forces that are ready to go to the peace process, i think this format should prevail, and not the format of war and further stirring up the situation and the formation of what buddha says is some kind of global conflict in the world , this conflict, and alongside it the war in ukraine, this can really create contradictions and big problems for the world, the sooner we get rid of it let's decide, the faster the stability of the world process will be. rather than a weakening of support for ukraine, this will be another guarantee that russia will not be able to realize its interests either in ukraine, in relation to western countries, or in israel in terms of fanning such a large conflict in the near middle east. mr. general, yesterday i had diplomat valery

chala on the air, he says that it is possible that in the near future we will see the third or fourth point at which military conflicts, military actions are possible, this is, for example, africa and korea, north korea against south korea, well, as an option, taiwan, that there will still be several points that will allow conditional countries of autocracy, or countries of this axis of evil, to somehow unbalance western civilization, those countries that stand, including for ukraine , those countries that are helping... now israel, in your opinion, how likely is it that such fires will flare up around, africa or korea, that this conflict can play out all over the world, this is not a fact, this is a possible

scenario , which valerius chalileus says, but this is far from a fact, because yes, there really is support for, for example, the aggressive actions of russia and the south. and north korea and the escalation of the conflict between south korea, this is the test of even nuclear weapons by north korea, and the threat to south korea, japan, even the united states, i understand that this is a taiwanese problem. should arise, but still the world is oriented towards the creation of new mechanisms, after all, countering such threats, and preventing now even regional conflicts, this is a model of preventing a global war, and sinzi knows this, i don’t know directly personally, because i know him, so to speak, the whole environment, the minister of national security, the national security adviser, yes, they defend their interests and play on contradictions, but they also do not risk getting involved in a global war. even at the expense of taiwan, north korea, russia and the like, they want to wait, yes , to create a contradiction, to glorify the position and

influence of the west, yes, but they see what a global problem is in terms of security, and in relation to china itself, he 80% depends on the economy of the european union, the usa and canada, that is why and all the more the crisis today is to go directly into a head-on attack and or somehow openly maintain the force of this will not be and start a war, this is an even bigger problem, so the plans for a meeting and negotiations between sinzipin and biden, this is one of the schemes that will allow all- to shape this progress is, accordingly, the mission of anthony blimken, we are in constant contact with him, regarding the removal of problems in the middle east and not only in terms of supporting israel, but this representation is precisely the negotiations with the palestinian authority, with the positive wing, i.e. the moderate civilian, these are, accordingly, negotiations on a settlement, prevention of global conflicts between nuclear countries, and here the containment of both north korea, it is not for nothing that america

met with szepin at one time, well, it was trump or not trump, but it predicted what the scenarios would be, that the prospects of north korea with an active there is no military participation against south korea, japan, and even more so the usa , in fact it will devalue all resources, and if it starts any more launches, it will destroy north korea, that is, there are warning mechanisms, negotiation mechanisms, i... first of all, there are not only diplomatic, but more operational ones between the leaders of countries, even competing countries, for example, only between china and the united states, but european countries today are located, accordingly, the head of the foreign political office in china, and this is not for nothing, because china is very dependent on of the european union, especially economically, trade, financially, technologically, and this will be a powerful factor, it is much stronger than russia , the situation will be difficult and the scenario that will be played out there will already come out in a circle, it will not happen either, there may be some conflicts, but i

i think that now it will be hard to try to prevent them globally, because if we consider those global scenarios, it is a threat to the whole world, and if we go to some kind of global war, and this is a nuclear war, there will be no one, no neither the chinese, nor the americans, nor the europeans, nor the russians, nor the ukrainians, no one wants such a scenario, so there will be agreements and they will be forced to sit down for negotiations, and what will be the progress of russia, there will be no reduction in aid, no, according to ukraine, because they see and americans, europeans, rooted in many situations, even these topics related to hamas and the attack on israel are in moscow and iran. general budanov, whom we already mentioned today, said that the russians wanted to do a controlled release of radiation at the zaporizhia nuclear power plant in the summer, we talked a lot about it on our broadcasts. during the last six months, let's listen to what budan said today. they tried to artificially create

a man-made disaster, it is not about detonating a nuclear plant, as everyone understands, that there was a bang and scattered in all directions and radiation i left, no, they wanted to do something much more interesting there, you won’t reveal the plan, overloading the system, if that’s the case, it’s very easy to explain it all to you, artificially made, with a controlled emission of radiation, against this background to start certain actions, which means a controlled emission, which means more- less controlled, localized to a place and artificially controlled, as they dreamed, artificially controlled, but i want to tell you that all games like this, they always end very badly, so it could and would lead, in our understanding, exactly to a very real nuclear disaster.

mr. general, the functioning and existence of nuclear weapons in the world is a special regulation, and when the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant was seized by russian terrorists, it also turned into another large atomic bomb that can be detonated in the air at any moment. in your opinion, how the world reacts to abstinence. of the nuclear power plant by the russian occupiers, as far as it corresponds to world practice in general, because in another case, if we were talking about a group of terrorists who captured in in another country, for example in western europe , a nuclear power plant, then those terrorists would be neutralized quite quickly, in this situation , negotiations are conducted, and magate is conducting negotiations, somehow they are trying to convince the russians not to take any actions there that will lead to an explosion, why is this happening? well, first of all, in the history of nuclear energy, there has never been a case where someone either seized

or really, i emphasize, really intended to seize a nuclear power plant, especially... someone expresses such positions, i believe that we prejudiced them, but unreal there were actions, that is, in this situation, the state, firstly, it is absurd, when in the 21st century it attacked a neighboring country, which was previously considered friendly and fraternal and so on, this is the first component, and the second component is seizing nuclear power plants, on the one hand, the non-operating chernobyl, and on the other hand , zaporizhzhia, the most powerful in europe, and will create the prerequisites for a global catastrophe for both ukraine and russia . normal, something is already impossible here to comment, we constantly considered at the security council in our nsdc, if it dealt with, constantly the issue of nuclear safety, these are extremely powerful, clear regulations of operation, protection, the answer is not to allow elementary

violations, but anything is violated here, both fighters and ammunition are located here , explosives, a game, respectively, with a hot and cold regime , limiting the supply of cooled, substances, what budanov says, what can be done there in a controlled manner, is one of the scenarios, there they have dozens of scenarios regarding how they threatened the world, losing on the front, they have only a few arguments left, it is the zaporizhia nuclear power plant once, and the use of nuclear weapons twice, i will just say, it is unrealistic, now even the fact that megat works weakly, we will say, although it has a representative office there, reveals some violations , but in any case there is a mechanism of some kind of control, but more operational control and radiological , radiotechnical, intelligence, space, well, of course , computer control, which fully control the regulations, all in the armed forces, well, they cooperate with the ministry of defense in parallel, respectively, all actions well-known, beloved, so to speak, formats or

conduct of the situation before the accident, as budanov artificially says, or, for example, explosions. is the shelling, for example, controlled, as if from our side, and they will blame us, this is another provocation that was being prepared, all these scenarios are known, we identify them, prevent them, and the zone of responsibility in case of capture in any case lies with russia, the occupier captured, and now in this format of world security, he must bear full responsibility for the capture and now being there, respectively, of their specialists, their fighters and the like, so there is no justification here in any way. full control should be strengthened, and the pressure, which was not valid, should be not only at the level of the magats, but at the level of all countries of the world and most importantly of powerful leaders, i would go for the initiators, for example, the usa, britain, france, india, china, the countries of the nuclear club, with the proposal to hold a un general assembly on this

situation and the whole world, and the whole world will agree, to prohibit precisely the control by russia, as a last resort to create an international a powerful commission that will be there, withdraw all the troops and it will ensure, until we defeat all the regulatory works, full control over the zaporizhia os, so far we have not come to this, the initiative should be ours, but we should get the support of the countries of the world, which have a powerful influence on russia and for the whole world to vote, then putin will see that there is no way out, some concessions must be made, he must be brought up from this station, he must be expelled from there at least for the time being. if not in a combat way, there is still no readiness, then in a global format, and this is how to use all the regulations, and of course with regard to nuclear weapons, these are specific warnings, regarding the fact that in the case of the deployment of tactical , strategic-level ballistic missiles, there will be superpowerful strikes at once, literally, and putin has already been warned, he is already talking to

the bear about some nuclear scenarios, but they understand that it is impossible for them to survive, so i think that there is a minimal chance, they will use weapons in any situation, but they will also speculate on nuclear power plants and, accordingly, gather nuclear situation, another important provocation, which they repeatedly tried to do, is to accuse ukraine not only of all bombings, such as zaporizkas, but bombings, such as the kursk nuclear plant, belarus under the bombings, as if we are going on sabotage, blowing up nuclear facilities on the territory russia and belarus and us will create a nuclear ... terrorists, it was also revealed , this operation also failed, although it was planned to carry out partial detonations, to blame ukraine, everything is already known, and the whole world knows what russia does, how it uses... nuclear blackmail, it is clear that this format no longer takes place anywhere, neither he is there , neither the beggar speaks, nor the statements of putin, medvedev, no longer work, thank you, mr. general, it was a general of the army

of ukraine, former head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine, mykola malomush . friends, we are working live on tv channel as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please like this video and also take part in our vote, today we ask you the following, who are you...' the biggest options for answers to the president, the armed forces of ukraine, the church, volunteers, or if you have your own option, please write it in the comments below this video. next, we will be in touch with oleksandr khara, an expert on foreign and security policy at the center for defense strategies. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. good evening, mr. sergey, everything is mutual. today, anthony blinken, secretary of state of the united states of america, flew to israel to. show support

let's listen to what blinken said today to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu about ukraine, and the situation in which israel found itself in connection with hamas attacks. the message i bring to israel today is, you can be strong enough to defend yourself, but as long as there is... america, you will never, ever have to, we will always be there for you. mr. alexander, this statement by blinken is obviously directed at iran, at syria, at other countries of the arab world, and not only this statement, but also the aircraft carrier group, gerald ford, at headed by gerald ford , which is close to the shores of israel, is washington's voice sounding convincing enough now in the war on the stairs, well, you know, it seems to me that this is

blinken's public message, it was not a public message, because if we are talking about the return of the united states to the middle east, since the countries of the region understand that without the united states, it is impossible to solve the problems, no one returns either to china or to the russian federation. we see a crisis that could turn into a regional conflict with far-reaching consequences, but no neither beijing nor moscow are involved here, they, if beijing is sitting on the fence, then moscow is trying to justify terrorism and is trying to play some kind of pseudo-diplomacy, and the propaganda channels were aimed at discrediting, first of all, israel, but also ukraine with these trophy weapons that were transferred, means terrorists and most likely, this is one of the main factors that we can use to say that the russian federation is involved, if not in the planning of

this large-scale attack, then at least in order to use the weapons and the desire to discredit ukraine, let's say, by hurting the state of israel and the israelis, here, but the hidden message, it seems to me , is that mr.... in fact, it is now carte blanche, because in order to change the balance of power not only within the state itself , but also in the region, it is very important here what the reaction will be, how much, shall we say, this cleaning will be, it will cause a negative reaction from the countries of the region, who are now observing for the time being, and as far as iran has any desire, either directly, most likely through proxy groups such as hezbollah , to be involved in such a conflict, i do

n't think it will happen, but of course it depends on, on how , will this sweep take place, what will be the ground company, how will it affect the civilians, the palestinians, and will it not distract, shall we say, those arabs who are now watching, well, of course, silently supporting the palestinians, but cannot openly to say, because it is usually so brutal the attack cannot be justified by anything, but by the main, let's say, security guarantees and the main signals of support for israel , not only gerald ford's aircraft carrier group, but also eisenhower's, because it is the second largest group, which as say the american military and it means official factors, it was planned to rotate to the mediterranean sea and in fact it is now heading there, that is, it

is a clear indicator that neither iran nor its proxy groups, whether from syria or libya, should get in there, and by the way, this a very interesting thing, on the one hand, we can see a new balance of power in the region, on the other hand, the government, or this one, or if it holds out, well , i mean, if netanyahu holds out, and there is a possibility that after such intelligence and military, and let's say he can be removed from power, and of course what he's trying to do now with the force, this anger that he's showing, the force of retribution for the atrocities and the killings and the actual effect of 9/11, he's going to try to compensate for that, but it is clear that he has difficult positions and

in fact, his doctrine of neglect, meaning the palestinians... and in fact the policy of orthodoxy of internal life, which caused a constitutional crisis, although israel does not have a constitution, but in fact it is, all these factors can play into what we after a certain time, after the completion of course, in the acute phase, we will see that he, he will be forced out of politics, and it is very important, in addition to all this, how the russians are trying, let's say, to use the conflict to discredit ukraine, not only with weapons, and these, so , propaganda the clichés have already been picked up by the trumpians, they accuse biden of, well , firstly, transferring weapons to ukraine, and secondly, that biden allegedly transferred certain means to ukraine that were pre-deployed in the region in case of a crisis, actually, well

they say that there is such a crisis, when in fact there is not . these means are provided in order to respond to a possible regional conflict, and this is the first point, the second point, actually, you remember it very well, how the americans agreed with the south koreans when they transferred the same bay ammunition, including from the stockpiles intended for israel, they transferred to ukraine, instead they filled them with south korean ammunition, that is, i do not believe that the american military, especially such as mr. miley, who retired, that he could endanger his own interests of the united states, as well as a key ally of the united states in the region, so of course what is happening there now in the gas sector and in israel as a whole depends , let's say, on the level of support that can be provided by us, i liked the idea of the biden administration , which is currently being worked on, about the possible packaging

of aid to ukraine, israel, and possibly taiwan, into one, one resolution, which will have to be digested by the trumpians, who wanted to deprive ukraine of such aid as soon as possible. mr. oleksandr, 50, or rather, 67 years ago, in 1956, when there was a suez crisis, western countries and france, in particular great britain. hostilities began in egypt, and at the time when this was unfolding, nikita khrushchev took advantage of this story and brought troops into budapest, and actually, we know how did it all end, uh, or not , should we draw any parallels, that russia, at a time when the whole world will be focused on

a war in the middle east, will do... something that will go beyond what can the russian federation do beyond what the russian federation will be allowed to do? no, you know, of course, that the potential of the russian federation is incomparable to the soviet union, especially if we are talking about the 50s and 60s, when the americans were afraid of the superiority of the soviet union in space, did not know and were, you do you remember that only after, let's say, the handing over of one of the games, it was found out that p'nkovsky's pinkovsky, it seems, it was, that in fact the quantities of nuclear ammunition and ballistic missiles were exaggerated, and that the soviet economy and even the vaunted the ministry of defense does not agree to increase this number, the russian federation.